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L63[07:24:52] <Dutchy45> Is there a way to review action groups in flight?
L64[07:25:14] <Althego> for the two last versions there is
L65[07:25:31] <Althego> one of the icons in the top right corner
L66[07:25:59] <Althego> i think it is a wrench
L67[07:27:21] <Dutchy45> O ok, I haven't updated for ages to keep my game going :) Thanks Althego
L68[07:27:28] <Althego> since 1.8
L69[07:27:38] <Althego> so last 3
L70[07:28:02] <Althego> actually these are mostly minor updates and saves probably will work
L71[07:30:26] <Althego> lol 1.8 came out in 2019. and it is 4 versions ago
L72[07:32:27] <Dutchy45> like I said: "for ages" :) I play in bursts. Months go by without me touching the game
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L77[08:03:35] <Althego> lol flat earthers say the sn9 flight was fake. oh never mind there is video of it from multiple people from multiple angles
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L80[08:09:34] <raptop> hi, Mod9000
L81[08:09:48] <Judge_Dedd> hello Mod9000
L82[08:09:50] <Mod9000> How are things?
L83[08:10:05] <Judge_Dedd> Mod9000 is doing
L84[08:10:07] <raptop> ah, there we go
L85[08:10:16] <Judge_Dedd> hi
L86[08:10:18] <Mod9000> Hello, Judge_Dedd
L87[08:10:23] <Judge_Dedd> I should remove that comma
L88[08:10:29] <raptop> huh, I was expecting Mod9000 to be whiling or foring
L89[08:10:57] <Judge_Dedd> I don't understand
L90[08:24:56] <raptop> different kinds of loops
L91[08:26:24] <Althego> hehe whiling or foring
L92[08:26:34] <Althego> it was puzzling
L93[08:32:17] <Judge_Dedd> What is "whiling and foring"?
L94[08:32:31] <Althego> while and for are loop types
L95[08:32:37] <Judge_Dedd> Are
L96[08:32:40] <Althego> and if you make verbs of them
L97[08:32:41] <Judge_Dedd> Aha!
L98[08:33:54] <Althego> to me they sound like some ancient verbs that are not used anymore
L99[08:34:15] <Judge_Dedd> Ye olde whiling and foring
L100[08:36:53] *** Judge_Dedd changes topic to 'Kerbal Space Program official channel | versions: KSP1 1.11.1 | Rules: tinyurl.com/KSP-Rules | "modcall" to call ops | Δv maps: https://i.imgur.com/CHVnEeE.png https://i.imgur.com/gBoLsSt.png | Doge is doing'
L101[08:37:09] <Althego> and elon is leaking
L102[08:37:30] <Althego> at least he tweeted that sn10 is going to use all 3 engines for the flip
L103[08:38:00] <Judge_Dedd> Yeah. I was wondering why they didn't do that.
L104[08:38:01] <Althego> and if one fails it can still do it with 2. if it doesnt fail it will just turn off the one that helps the least in flipping
L105[08:39:09] <Judge_Dedd> By only using two, they are negating one of the best advantages of having multiple engines instead of one big one.
L106[08:39:56] <Althego> but then for landing they want to use the least amount of thrust
L107[08:40:15] <Althego> so landing needs 2 engines
L108[08:40:46] <Judge_Dedd> Yeah, otherwise they'd have to throttle too deeply and would flameout
L109[08:42:25] <Althego> also no starlink today, moved to sunday
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L114[09:04:25] <Mat2ch> The funny part of the "using all three engines while doing the flip" is that a twitter user asked Elon this "why not start all three engines and if one fails you still have backup" and he answered: "We are dumb"
L115[09:04:45] <Mat2ch> and I wondered if he really meant it or if it was meant ironically
L116[09:05:23] <Mat2ch> because there could not be enough fuel to run all three engines or the pressure would be too low, etc.
L117[09:23:02] <Judge_Dedd> I imagine that they are working so fast and making so many quick decisions that they are quite likely to overlook something like that
L118[09:23:41] <Judge_Dedd> SN10 will have the new tripple-engine flip profile
L119[09:25:06] <Mat2ch> that's one of the reasons why I think it is important to listen to voices from outside.
L120[09:25:23] <Mat2ch> Sometimes the best ideas come from bystanders
L121[09:25:53] <Mat2ch> and Hans Christian Andersen used a childs eyes to see the problem/truth...
L122[09:28:51] <Judge_Dedd> I want to know if my copper sheet heatsink behind the ceramic tiles would work (the idea being to disperse the heat if a tile cracked or fell off)
L123[09:29:05] <Judge_Dedd> But I don't know how I would find out if it works
L124[09:31:25] <Mat2ch> Wouldn't the copper instantly just melt?
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L126[09:32:10] <Mat2ch> you can try it. Take a sheet of copper, place it over a larger sheet of 3 mm stainless steel and get a torch that is as hot as the reentry gases.
L127[09:32:36] <Mat2ch> but I fear to be effective you need a lot of copper which will add lots of mass
L128[09:41:22] <flayer> i need to add some mass
L129[09:41:31] <flayer> not a lot, but some
L130[09:42:42] <Judge_Dedd> Mat2ch, a block of copper does not melt if you heat one spot with a blowtorch. It conducts the heat so well
L131[09:43:23] <flayer> if you heat one spot of me with a blowtorch, i will get burnt
L132[09:43:32] <Judge_Dedd> But as you say, perhaps it needs to be too thick to be effective
L133[09:43:56] <Mat2ch> Judge_Dedd: That's what I would want to see in an experiment
L134[09:44:09] <Judge_Dedd> Me too
L135[09:44:18] <flayer> i don't want to be burnt by a blowtorch
L136[09:47:05] <Judge_Dedd> But you've never tried
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L138[09:55:05] <Judge_Dedd> Copper vs 3,200 degrees C https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faxVuzwUc-0
L139[09:56:03] <Judge_Dedd> You can see how the whole thing absorbs the heat, but it does melt
L140[09:57:16] <Judge_Dedd> Mat2ch, Space shuttle only face 1649 C
L141[09:58:09] <Althego> dont forget starship could come back from mars
L142[09:58:14] <Judge_Dedd> (depending on source, a might be a bit less than that, but considerably less than 3200 of that gas torch)
L143[09:58:15] <Althego> with interplanetary speeds
L144[09:58:23] <Althego> ok, probablymultiple pass aerobrake
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L146[10:01:51] <Judge_Dedd> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eBs7LAM4Kk Didn't melt
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L149[10:13:58] <minas_tirith> raptop, the solos in kathaarian life code aren't just noise solos...there is more structure to them
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L180[15:37:19] <Mat2ch> https://www.bbc.com/sport/golf/55927727
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L210[19:52:23] <Althego> the takamori livestream that was cancelled is going to happen 04:00 cet, and they are not at the same place anymore. sad
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L218[22:09:44] <flayer> https://i.insider.com/601d6f3890dd450018a7b189
L219[22:09:54] <flayer> picture of mars from the chinese probe
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L221[22:27:14] * raptop saw the delta and mistakenly assumed ISRO >_>;;
L222[22:30:29] <deadmind> well, that isrong
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