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L6[01:19:55] <darsie> Two Kerbals on chutes
collided mid air and lost their chutes.
L7[01:24:49] <darsie> KSP crashed.
L8[01:24:55] <darsie> 1.11.1
L9[01:26:28] <raptop> KSP splashed down har
and was destroyed
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L11[01:26:34] <raptop> Is it replicable?
(etc etc)
L12[01:27:49] <darsie> unlikely
L13[01:28:08] <darsie> During ascent.
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L16[01:31:49] <raptop> ah
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L19[01:43:28] <JVFoxy> ... hate to say it
but.. feeling a bit 'crushed' today.. deflated. c.c;
L20[01:44:25] <JVFoxy> saw the launch
today.. not too big a fan of SpaceX but.. sucks when see something
that's had so much work put into it, come to a sudden RUD
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L25[02:14:27] <Izaya> there's a reason the
next prototype is already on the pad
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L43[03:27:49] <minas_tirith> Hi
L44[03:27:51] <Mod9000> Hello,
minas_tirith
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L67[08:49:18] <Mat2ch> I just watched the
NSF video and read a comment that said that the shiny part that
fell out of the rocket might be a part of the thrust puck
L68[08:49:36] <Mat2ch> the theory is that
the first engine ignited rather hard and destroyed the thrust
puck
L69[08:50:08] <Izaya> hate it when parts
fall off your rocket and it crashes
L70[08:52:13] <Althego> hehe
L72[09:04:15] <Althego> the truth is he
wrote that many hours before the crash
L74[09:09:52] <Mat2ch> yep
L75[09:09:56] <Althego> more german
spreading
L76[09:10:01] <Mat2ch> :P
L77[09:10:14] <Mat2ch> At least we get a
Gigafactory!
L78[09:10:16] <Mat2ch> ;)
L79[09:10:23] <Althego> with
gigacasting
L80[09:10:42] <Mat2ch> and judging by the
rain the world is ending here as well.
L81[09:18:20] <Althego> relax. the
excellent workers in the simulation business are able the keep any
project off track indefinitely, including the end of the
world
L82[09:20:03] <Mat2ch> I can do that,
too!
L83[09:20:09] <Mat2ch> Should be working on
a project by now
L84[09:20:12] <Mat2ch> but somehow...
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L90[09:43:04] <Althego> scott, 1 hour
ago
L91[09:43:18] <Mat2ch> again?!
L92[09:44:34] <Althego> as expected
L93[09:44:57] <Althego> did he upload this
around midnight?
L94[09:55:05] <Mat2ch> probably started
making the video right after the crash
L95[09:55:33] <Mat2ch> so analyzing it,
recording it, cutting it, a few hours at least after
L96[09:55:38] <Althego> maybe not
L97[09:55:41] <Althego> he has his day
job
L98[09:57:16] <Mat2ch> With 1.2M
subs?
L99[09:57:26] <Althego> yes
L100[09:57:55] <Mat2ch> interesting. He
could setup a patreon page and could live of it...
L101[09:58:05] <Althego> Manley's current
employment is at Apple Inc. He joined Topsy Labs in 2009 and in
2013 Topsy was acquired by Apple.
L102[09:58:17] <Althego> (wikipe-tan says
so)
L103[09:58:22] <Mat2ch> ewww, Apple
L104[09:58:31] <Mat2ch> I would've
quit.
L105[09:58:36] <Mat2ch> Just because of
Apple :P
L106[09:58:45] <Althego> they know what
they are doing
L107[09:58:58] <Althego> and programming
is just programming anywhere
L108[09:59:21] <Althego> as a company they
are horrible, but this is close to religion or politics
L109[10:07:38] <Mat2ch> maybe I'm just
jealous that I'm not that good at manipulating humans.
L110[10:11:08] <Althego> louis rossmann
also has 1.5 million subs, dislikes apple and his day job is
running his apple repair business
L111[10:11:51] <Althego> so not all people
handle this "youtube famous" state as a possible
job
L112[10:28:06] <XXCoder> ;mission
L113[10:28:07] <LunchBot> XXCoder: You
head to the nearest pig farm with a bag full of M size rocket
motors and stoic determination to prove a point. All hail
probe!
L114[10:28:43] <Mat2ch> Althego: well,
Rossmanns job is it to tear down phones. And he uses his channel
partly as vlog about what he has learnt
L115[10:29:08] <Mat2ch> and everything
else is a business where his employees are doing much of the work
and he supervises them.
L116[10:29:16] <Mat2ch> I'd do the same in
this position.
L117[10:29:51] <Mat2ch> But Scott has no
business of his own, just a day job. But I think he has just too
much fun at his job and the videos are a huge hobby as well
L118[10:30:09] <Mat2ch> And maybe he
doesn't need as much sleep as I do ;)
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L125[11:03:31] <Mat2ch> I wonder how long
we will have to wait until SN10 launches. My guess is two
weeks.
L126[11:04:07] <Althego> lol
L127[11:04:12] <Althego> well, maybe
L128[11:04:23] <Althego> but they are
laways slower than we expect
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L130[11:15:31] <Guest54522> hi
L131[11:15:34] <Mod9000> Hello,
Guest54522
L132[11:15:50] <Guest54522> :D
L133[11:15:57] <Althego> that is a bot,
ignore it
L134[11:16:08] <Guest54522> ah
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L136[11:19:10] <Mat2ch> you shouldn't have
said that
L137[11:19:15] <Mat2ch> :D
L138[11:20:08] <Mat2ch> and two weeks is
plenty of time to clean up the pad, analyze what went wrong,
install three raptors and do some static fire tests
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L141[11:40:46] <FLHerne> Is it possible to
make the bot not do that?
L142[11:40:55] <FLHerne> It's never
helpful
L143[11:41:00] <Althego> yes
L144[11:41:03] <Althego> and if i say
hi
L145[11:41:06] <Althego> it greets
me
L146[11:41:29] <Althego> that one is
deaddly's
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L148[12:05:23] <Mat2ch> Hi
L149[12:05:24] <Mod9000> Hello,
Mat2ch
L150[12:05:24] <Mat2ch> :P
L151[12:05:55] <Mat2ch> FLHerne: well, the
bot says Hi, because some think that if nobody reacts to their
"Hi" nobody is here
L152[12:06:01] <Mat2ch> so the bot
simulates talking
L153[12:06:06] <Mat2ch> and makes the
people stay
L154[12:06:10] <Althego> it doesnt
L155[12:06:13] <Althego> but it annoys
me
L156[12:06:21] <Mat2ch> We need to make a
study about that
L157[12:06:32] <Mat2ch> and different
sentences.
L158[12:06:44] <Mat2ch> Like "Hi
$user. How can we help?"
L159[12:14:54] <darsie> .
L160[12:16:25] <darsie> "Hi $user.
Please ask your question and be patient."
L161[12:16:42] <darsie> And don't say that
to regulars.
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L163[12:17:34] <Althego> there is already
a message in chanserv: [#KSPOfficial] Welcome to #KSPOfficial. Feel
free to ask questions, and please wait a few minutes for a
response. We hope you enjoy your stay.
L164[12:17:36] <darsie> hi
L165[12:17:38] <Mod9000> Hello,
darsie
L166[12:18:05] <darsie> Yeah, but many
don't read that (or the topic), I think.
L167[12:18:18] <Althego> the thing is, if
somebody comes in, and says something, reply to them. if somebody
was here, dont say something
L168[12:19:27] <darsie> Don't say it to
ppl who have been here in the last week.
L169[12:20:51] <Althego> nobody wants to
maintain a db for tis
L170[12:21:10] <FLHerne> Mat2ch: I don't
think it really works for that
L171[12:22:04] <FLHerne> It says 'Hi', and
either they don't respond and leave (having presumably realised
it's a bot), or they try to talk to it, get frustrated and
leave
L172[12:22:30] <FLHerne> I like darsie's
suggestion
L173[12:22:55] <FLHerne> And Althego's
:p
L174[12:23:02] <FLHerne> You don't need a
db, you need a list
L175[12:23:45] <FLHerne> (that said, I
would happily maintain a db for this, since I already have a bot
with a db for even less useful purposes :p)
L176[12:23:58] <FLHerne> !colloid
L177[12:23:58] <LunchBot> FLHerne:
Butter.
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L179[12:34:36] <Althego> i thought butter
was an emulsion
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L181[12:38:59] <Mat2ch> There's almost no
water in butter, so it's mostly fat. :P
L182[12:43:07] <Althego> yes, but it is an
emulsion of fat and water
L183[12:47:51] <taniwha> is it an
emulsion, or just water droplets trapped in a fatty matrix?
L184[12:48:21] <Althego> !colloid
L185[12:48:21] <LunchBot> Althego:
Fog.
L186[12:50:12] <Althego> maybe emulsion
and colloid are orthiginal
L187[12:50:15] <Althego> orthogonal
L188[12:50:28] <Althego> i though they
were exclusive
L189[12:52:21] <taniwha> colloid is
gelatinous rather than crystalline
L190[12:53:19] <taniwha> emulsion
L191[12:53:20] <taniwha> n 1: (chemistry)
a colloid in which both phases are liquids; "an
L192[12:53:20] <taniwha> oil-in-water
emulsion"
L193[12:53:33] <taniwha> so nope, butter
is not an emulsion
L194[12:54:09] <Althego> it is
L195[12:54:10] <taniwha> (mayonnaise
is)
L196[12:54:17] <Althego> but it seems
emulsion is a subset of colloid
L197[12:54:45] <Althego> i may have known
that about 25 years ago, but that is a long time
L198[12:54:59] <taniwha> dict :)
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L201[13:25:59] <FLHerne> A surprising
number of things are colloids, a discussion about that in #SpaceX
is why this command appeared :p
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L203[13:29:15] <FLHerne> You can have
gas-liquid colloids like fog or whipped cream, gas-solid colloids
like smoke or aerogel, liquid-solid like jelly or ink
L204[13:29:33] <FLHerne> All emulsions are
colloids by definition
L205[13:29:39] <FLHerne> !colloid add
whipped cream
L206[13:29:39] <LunchBot> FLHerne: Added
colloid: whipped cream
L208[13:37:47] <Mat2ch> hiiiiiighhh
speeeeeeeed
L209[13:37:49] <Mat2ch> \o/
L210[13:38:11] <Mat2ch> Althego: there is
little water in butter
L211[13:40:00] <Althego> this slow motion
video looks like a movie clip
L212[13:42:08] <Mat2ch> I guess that's the
point of it :D
L213[13:51:56] <Althego> movies are made
to have spectacular visuals, not realism. but this is the
interesting explosion you would see in a movie and real too
L214[13:59:31] <Mat2ch> that's the kind of
explosion I wanna see in KSP2 :D
L215[14:00:53] <Althego> with built in
slow motion replay :)
L216[14:01:44] <taniwha> start
coding
L217[14:02:06] <darsie> What's that
baby/embryo rocket? :)
L218[14:03:11] <darsie> two,
actually.
L219[14:03:29] <darsie> compressed gas
tanks, I guess.
L220[14:03:31] <taniwha> He
canister?
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L222[14:10:02] <Althego> darsie: in the
slow mo explosion? left is the old hopper and right is the 7.2 test
tank with 3mm steel
L224[14:12:07] <Althego> lest one is
starhopper with 2 succesful flights, now an instrument stand, and
right is a test tank
L225[14:12:27] <Althego> or what that tiny
thing flying?
L226[14:12:31] <darsie> yes
L227[14:12:57] <Althego> probably copv for
rcs, but i guess it can be helium too
L228[14:13:11] <Althego> composite
overwrapped pressure vessel
L229[14:13:19] <darsie> Part of SN9?
L230[14:13:29] <Althego> i think these
have rcs too
L231[14:13:46] <Althego> at least they
used to have in case of the earlier low hopping models
L233[14:17:43] <Althego> one of the
earlier prototype explosions also had such a tank flying, and those
didnt have helium
L234[14:18:17] <Althego> so it is more
likely to be nitrogen for rcs, but helium is also possible
L235[14:26:40] <Althego> takamori stream
again soon :)
L236[14:26:58] <Truga> lol
L237[14:27:09] <Truga> ofcourse #ksp is
into vtubes
L238[14:27:17] <Althego> no, not
really
L239[14:30:14] <Truga> aw
L240[14:30:16] <Truga> why not
L241[14:33:08] <Althego> you have to ask
them :)
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L246[14:45:14] <Althego> hehe no stream
because of wifi fail
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L251[15:04:08] <Mat2ch> Althego: darsie:
The Starship prototypes still use nitrogen for RCS, because they
couldn't get the methan+lox thrusters to work yet.
L252[15:04:11] <Mat2ch> But that's the
plan
L253[15:04:25] <Mat2ch> also when is the
best time to rant about The Expanse? :P
L254[15:04:41] <Althego> i couldnt find
the footage where such a vessel is flying in circles after an
explosion
L255[15:04:47] <Althego> but i remember
one
L256[15:06:10] <FLHerne> There was one
after the Starhopper landing
L257[15:06:18] <FLHerne> Is there a wrong
time?
L258[15:07:13] <Althego> ah maybe that is
why i couldnt find it. there was no explosion
L260[15:18:09] <Althego> yes it was
that
L261[15:42:11] <Althego> hehe, now
starlink 17 is scheduled after 18
L262[15:42:24] <Althego> on the same day
:)
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L265[15:53:40] <Mat2ch> That means 18 will
be moved back as well.
L266[15:54:05] <Mat2ch> two launches a
day. Preposterous
L267[15:55:42] <Althego> if they cant
launch 18, then there is a high chance that 17 is moved along with
it
L268[15:56:06] <Althego> if we are lucky
they push the launch date out for a week, and then can launch 17,
18, 19 on the same day :)
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L276[18:06:33] <Althego> hehe, angry
astronaut about sn9: The Good, The Bad, and the ANGRY!
L277[18:19:20] <Ariri> Althego, re:
takamori, 'Ah, I see you are a person of deadbeat culture as
well'
L278[18:19:38] <Althego> hehe
L279[18:19:43] <raptop> heh
L280[18:30:41] <Althego> hah, elon had an
interview with sandy munro
L282[18:38:41] <Mat2ch> well
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L284[19:18:08] <Althego> i wonder, why
nobody asked elon what is the name of the starship control
surfaces? they are not flaps. not exactly airbrakes. just what are
they? tim dodd calls them elonerons, but probably the idea didnt
come from him, so that is overkill
L285[19:21:08] <Ariri> +1 for dubbing them
Elonerons/Elonrons
L286[19:51:19] <FLHerne> -1, it's a
horrible name
L287[19:51:24] <FLHerne> I liked
flaperons
L288[19:51:56] <FLHerne> Elon has always
just called them flaps
L289[19:56:00] <Mat2ch> and they are like
flappers
L290[19:56:33] <FLHerne> The problem is
that 'flaps' is already used in aircraft for a different
thing
L291[19:59:21] <flayer> control
surface..
L292[19:59:36] <Althego> too generic
L293[19:59:52] <Althego> you can call them
spaceship parts tpp, not exactly useful
L294[19:59:58] <Althego> *too
L295[20:02:49] <Althego> hehe managed to
hit the moon with the new escape trajectory burn without maneuver
node. cant come close than this
L296[20:04:18] <flayer> but its literally
a control surface
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L299[20:12:13] <Ariri> Seems their
official term is also flap | >The Starship prototype descended
under active aerodynamic control, accomplished by independent
movement of two forward and two aft flaps on the vehicle.
(SpaceX/Starship)
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L302[20:53:51] <raptop> ;outcome add
Handsome Ron sees your gross safety violations and shuts down your
space program.
L303[20:53:51] <LunchBot> raptop: Added
outcome: Handsome Ron sees your gross safety violations and shuts
down your space program.
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L316[22:32:55] <raptop> ;outcome add You
fail ISO 9000 certification due to your complete lack of formal
process or even any documentation of your space program.
L317[22:32:56] <LunchBot> raptop: Added
outcome: You fail ISO 9000 certification due to your complete lack
of formal process or even any documentation of your space
program.
L318[22:34:30] <minas_tirith> raptop,
space is dark and scary
L319[22:37:48] <raptop> minas_tirith: just
remember to feed someone else to the kraken
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