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L16[02:52:30] <packbart> Steam Achievements
are an interesting public analytics tool. Only 54% of all
(Steam-)players of "Deliver Us The Moon" made it to the
second outpost
L17[02:55:40] <raptop> hm, 34.2% of all
players got the first achievement in spacechem
L18[02:55:55] <raptop> (which is one of the
later demo levels)
L19[03:07:42] <raptop> ...also, there
appear to be a bunch of games on steam I should play more
L20[03:07:58] <raptop> ;mission add You
construct additional pylons.
L21[03:07:58] <LunchBot> raptop: Added
mission: You construct additional pylons.
L22[03:08:25] <raptop> ;mission add You
launch a Vespene gas mining expedition to Jool.
L23[03:08:25] <LunchBot> raptop: Added
mission: You launch a Vespene gas mining expedition to Jool.
L24[03:09:22] <raptop> ;mission add You
spawn more Overlords.
L25[03:09:22] <LunchBot> raptop: Added
mission: You spawn more Overlords.
L26[03:10:04] <raptop> ;outcome add Your
interplanetary program ends with all kerbals being replaced with
imposters.
L27[03:10:05] <LunchBot> raptop: Added
outcome: Your interplanetary program ends with all kerbals being
replaced with imposters.
L28[03:14:16] <raptop> ;mission add You
question the wisdom of retrograde Bop.
L29[03:14:16] <LunchBot> raptop: Added
mission: You question the wisdom of retrograde Bop.
L30[03:14:23] <raptop> (This is a Principia
reference)
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L35[03:44:49] <raptop> ;mission add
Following UmbralRaptop's advice, you switch from CSV to FITS for
storing your tabular data.
L36[03:44:49] <LunchBot> raptop: Added
mission: Following UmbralRaptop's advice, you switch from CSV to
FITS for storing your tabular data.
L37[03:44:55] <raptop> >_>
L38[03:48:05] <raptop> Please ignore all
the data I pulled off of VizieR that's in FORTRAN format
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L72[09:06:23] <Mat2ch> NSF has already set
up a live stream event. :D
L73[09:06:29] <Mat2ch> I wonder if we will
see anything today
L74[09:06:52] <Mat2ch> weather looks very
good today
L75[09:06:53] <Mat2ch> no wind
L76[09:08:02] <Althego> i was checking the
weather right now :Ö
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L79[09:10:49] <Mat2ch> But how does the FAA
weather look like? I need a forecast for that, too! :D
L80[09:10:55] <Althego> hehe
L81[09:26:16] <Mat2ch> Inspiration4 is an
interesting mission. From the financial side. As we all know the
boosters itself are expensive, but get used at least 10 times now.
The upper stage is lost, but the capsule is reused
L82[09:26:34] <Mat2ch> so how expensive is
such a flight now? My bet would be around 10 million USD.
L83[09:27:10] <Mat2ch> Internally it is
probably much cheaper, but SpaceX needs the money for
Starship
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L85[09:37:35] <Althego> the booster is
something like 70% of the total rocket cost
L86[09:37:59] <Althego> and out of that
most is in the engines
L87[09:38:07] <Althego> there is only 1
engine lost on the upper stage
L88[09:38:41] <Althego> however this is
just material wise, we dont know how much the preparation for the
next launch costs
L89[09:38:46] <Althego> especially for a
manned mission
L90[09:39:59] <Althego> but based on the
time they do it, it is probably less than for the shuttle. but it
doesnt mean much since it had a horrible cost
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L92[10:02:16] <Mat2ch> I bet it's scary
cheap compared to other rockets...
L93[10:10:55] <Althego> let's hope they are
not cutting corners anywhere
L94[10:11:09] <Althego> and it is only luck
that doesnt cause anny catastrophe
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L97[10:11:35] <Althego> like with the
shuttle. ah a foam hit it. hit it again, hit it again, and again...
it istn serius. until it got serious
L98[10:19:23] <darsie> Are there human
Jebediahs?
L99[10:20:28] <flayer> there's a bunch of
pennsylvania
L100[10:20:51] <darsie> hmm
L101[10:20:57] <flayer> in*
L102[10:21:00] <darsie> ic :)
L103[10:32:04] <FLHerne> darsie: Mike
Hughes?
L104[10:32:12] <FLHerne> (sadly without
the magic respawning)
L105[10:32:38] <darsie> Mike Hughes
doesn't sound like Jebediah.
L106[10:32:48] <Althego> but died in the
most kerbal way
L107[10:32:52] <darsie> Ahh, that guy
:).
L108[10:32:57] <FLHerne> Guy built a
rocket in his garage, launched himself in it, was seriously
injured, recovered, improved it, launched it again, died
L109[10:33:14] <darsie> Forgot to check
the staging.
L110[10:33:17] <Althego> parachute deploy
on launch
L111[10:33:31] <Althego> didnt buy the
t-shirt from scott
L112[10:34:14] <darsie> I guess the
parachutes wouldn't have helped if deployed at apogee.
L113[10:34:34] <darsie> Or did they tear
from the rocket exhaust?
L114[10:34:40] <flayer> did he forget to
bring the rocket outside...?
L116[10:35:54] <darsie> Mad Mike dies /
R.I.P.
L117[10:36:13] <darsie> Yeah, torn by
rocket exhaust.
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L119[10:37:38] <darsie> Looks like a quick
death.
L120[10:37:46] <Mat2ch> Althego: I'm
pretty sure that SpaceX makes sure nothing hits the heat shield of
the capsule
L121[10:37:53] <Althego> hehe
L122[10:39:01] <Mat2ch> and for starship
they are doing pretty extensive tests of the heat shield
tiles
L123[10:39:09] <Mat2ch> I'm still not sure
if it's the best way to do this
L124[10:39:20] <Mat2ch> but SN10 will
tell
L125[10:39:23] <Althego> that was just one
example
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L130[11:06:08] <Deddly> Mike Hughs was
pretty clever to get funding from flatties, even though his maximum
altitude wouldn't even be as high as a plane can fly.
L131[11:07:33] <Althego> yes, i think the
flat narrative was just there to help him get more fame and
money
L132[11:08:27] <Althego> but even if he
was a flat earther, and i doubt that, he died doing something risky
what he really wanted to do
L133[11:08:45] <Deddly> Could have just
taken a photo from Mount Whitney nearby at over twice his maximum
possible altitude
L135[11:10:13] <Deddly> Most people love
to live. Most people therefore die doing something that they want
to do.
L136[11:10:27] <Althego> anyway i respect
the guy
L137[11:10:59] <Deddly> Courageous for
sure
L138[11:11:33] <Deddly> Stunt actors are
probably the human equivalent of Jeb
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L141[11:22:06] <FLHerne> Althego: His
family have said that the flat-earth stuff was a fundraising
gimmick that he didn't believe in
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L143[11:29:31] <darsie> I actually meant
humans named Jebediah.
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L146[11:32:28] <FLHerne> Wikipedia doesn't
have any articles on non-fictional Jebediahs
L147[11:32:39] <FLHerne> (are a few
fictional human ones)
L148[11:33:29] <Althego> apparently it is
jedediah
L149[11:34:05] <Althego> somehow jebediah
is relatively common in fiction
L150[11:34:47] <Althego> maybe somebody
misheard it once and jebediah was born
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L153[11:41:37] <Althego> still can be a
misheard jedediah
L154[12:08:10] <Althego> hehe, gamers
nexus, thy got a reply from nzxt about the pc cases which set
themselves on fire. video zooms into a link in the browser:
scientists taught spinach to send emails
L155[12:11:28] <kubi> most of the
activities promoting things to believe in is just a
fundraiser
L156[12:12:11] <kubi> let is be a curch, a
politician, lizard people or flat earth
L157[12:13:01] <kubi> there will be some
good number of ppl from the 7 billion paying for anything
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L159[13:17:31] <Mat2ch> the stream is
on
L160[13:17:41] <Mat2ch> even though we're
not going to see anything for the next hour :D
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L163[13:22:53] <packbart> !nela
L165[13:30:06] <Althego> or not
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L173[14:02:23] <Althego> usual chatter and
usual no-action on the nsf stream. meanwhile the takamori stream
soon starts
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L180[14:40:35] <darsie> loooool
L181[14:48:00] <Mat2ch> Althego: well, if
it's written, ok. Let's get a vasectomy.
L182[15:34:15] <Althego> the crane is
moving
L183[15:34:18] <Althego> what a blazing
speed
L184[15:34:40] <Althego> now in only 5
hours the starship might launch
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L187[15:48:23] <Tank2333> is SN9 flying
today?
L188[15:51:20] <Althego> maybe
L189[15:51:28] <Althego> at least they are
seriously tryinh
L190[15:51:29] <Althego> g
L191[15:53:06] <Mostly_Deddly> 6 pm UTC
according to... some app I have
L192[15:53:19] <Mostly_Deddly>
(tentatively)
L193[15:53:30] <Althego> i guess the
fueling takes longer
L194[15:53:40] <Mostly_Deddly> That's only
two hours
L195[15:53:48] <Mostly_Deddly> So
yeah
L196[15:53:58] <Mostly_Deddly> I imagine
it will be later than that
L197[15:54:17] <Althego> but i think they
are not going to start until the crane is in its new place and the
area is cleared of humans, including the inhabitants
L198[15:55:06] <darsie> Mostly_Deddly:
Thats in ... 5 min?
L200[15:55:22] <darsie> nope, 2 h
L201[15:55:26] <Althego> faa is not doing,
sn9 is doing?
L202[15:55:29] <Mostly_Deddly> darsie, 6
pm = 18:00 UTC
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L204[15:55:55] <darsie> It's 5 pm UTC+1. I
calculated the wrong way.
L205[15:56:27] <Mostly_Deddly> Since FAA
approved it, FAA is also doing :)
L206[15:56:45] <Althego> but not hindering
it, so not doing :)
L208[15:57:59] <Althego> whatever this
is
L209[15:58:10] <Althego> spot's expanded
product line
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L212[16:03:17] <Althego> gas gas gas, for
the crane mover team
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L224[17:13:31] <Mat2ch> Uh, what's the
purpose of Spot now? I mean, I like that they are using Linux, but,
uh, a worker is much faster in getting things from a shelf...
L225[17:14:08] <Mat2ch> Ok, Visual Studio
Code on Linux. Now I'm disgusted. :P
L226[17:14:20] <Mat2ch> and Python 2.7.
Which is legecy code. Wow
L227[17:15:13] <Mat2ch> the examples look
like python3. Much better. But still. Python is a scripting
language and very slow...
L228[17:17:38] <raptop> [US Astronaut
voice] "It's all wrappers over FORTRA?"
L229[17:17:47] <raptop> [Ohio Astronaut
voice] "Always was"
L230[17:17:57] <raptop> *FORTRAN
L231[17:22:24] <Althego> lol
L232[17:30:27] <Mat2ch> hrhr
L233[17:30:49] <Mat2ch> well, I know a few
people who make good money in servicing old bank systems and
databases with COBOL
L234[17:31:49] <Azander> CoBOL is fun
:P
L235[17:32:11] <Althego> fortran is still
in use and maintained
L236[17:32:19] <Azander> So is CoBOL
L237[17:32:37] <Azander> I use Both, along
with C (not C++, or C#)
L238[17:33:09] <Althego> it seems there is
a cobol 2014 lol
L239[17:33:25] <Mat2ch> I'm a uniformist.
We need only a few languages and should port everything to them.
And Cobol is not on that list. ;)
L240[17:33:36] <Althego> anyway cobol is
for people who want to have a large technical debt.
L241[17:33:36] <Mat2ch> Neither is
Java.
L242[17:33:47] <Althego> fortran,
especially modern fortran is quite sane
L243[17:34:03] <Althego> a few languages?
it is going to be js, you know it
L244[17:35:05] <Althego> i still put my
bet to 21:35 cet
L245[17:35:36] <Althego> that is in 3
hours
L246[17:35:45] <Althego> although as they
are progressing may happen later
L247[17:37:41] <Mat2ch> js will be banned
and users will be thrown into active volcanos
L248[17:37:48] <Althego> you wish
L249[17:37:52] <Mat2ch> twice.
L250[17:38:59] <Azander> lets see a few
languages... Assembler, Fortran, CoBOL, RPG, and C. Do we really
need any more ?
L251[17:40:06] <Mat2ch> C++ for objects,
but only 11 or up and we need a scripting language
L252[17:40:16] <Mat2ch> not perl, not sh,
not php. :P
L253[17:40:20] <Mat2ch> not js.
L254[17:40:30] <Mat2ch> well, modern php
maybe.
L255[17:43:03] <Althego> supopsedly php
after 7 got better
L256[17:43:13] <Althego> but i dont know
anything about it
L257[17:45:59] <Mat2ch> well, time to get
groceries
L258[17:46:07] <Mat2ch> should be enough
time
L259[17:48:00] <Althego> dont forget about
stopping the spread of germans :)
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L262[18:17:49] <Tank2333> WHAAAAT
L263[18:18:10] <umaxtu> Tank2333, you
responding to the spread of germans comment?
L264[18:18:20] <Tank2333> yes
L266[18:18:51] <Tank2333> what the
L267[18:19:00] <Althego> i guess they
wanted to write germs
L268[18:19:40] <Tank2333> this can only
mean war
L269[18:20:07] <raptop> Tanks generally
have good air filtration at least
L270[18:20:27] <umaxtu> well, I think some
of the Germany's uboats actually work now
L271[18:21:16] <Tank2333> everything in
the Bundeswehr works
L273[18:24:17] *
raptop is amused at the phrasing
L275[18:24:38] <raptop> [extremely
american voice] also, I keep on forgetting that diesel burning
submarines still exist
L276[18:25:20] <umaxtu> eh they've got
some advantages over nukes, especially when equipped with an AIP
system
L277[18:25:38] <raptop> I mean, I know
that lower internal noise is possible in some cases
L278[18:26:00] <umaxtu> and cost
L279[18:27:36] <raptop> That reminds me, I
still need to at some point total up # of reactors and power output
in the US Navy vs our electrical grid
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L281[18:35:50] <Tank2333> i was ironic,
the u boat is just another thing in the line of downed military
machinery, in think there is not one section wich is fully
equipped,
L282[18:54:55] <Mat2ch> well, we have some
hydrogen driven U-Boote, but I'm not sure if they are
operational.
L283[18:55:27] <Mat2ch> We still have
rockets that can carry atomic warheads. And some US atomic warheads
are lying pretty close to them and fit on those rockets for some
reason.
L284[18:55:49] <Althego> the article said
they operate on diesel engine and fuel cells, and none of them are
working
L285[18:55:57] <Mat2ch> nice!
L286[18:56:17] <flayer> its a shame
L287[18:56:19] <Mat2ch> And everything
else I have to say targets politics
L288[18:57:02] <Mat2ch> so I just say:
ruled by laypeople.
L289[18:57:20] <Mat2ch> there's a
"von" somewhere in there. But you have to find it.
:D
L290[18:57:38] *
Mat2ch checks the live stream
L291[18:57:46] <Mat2ch> no grass that is
venting
L292[18:57:48] *
Mat2ch vents a bit
L293[18:58:24] <Althego> so we are up to
no sooner than 22h
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L295[19:02:20] <Mat2ch> probably
L296[19:02:24] <Mat2ch> time for some
rocket league :P
L297[19:04:35] <Mat2ch> 125k viewers,
which is nothing for youtube. But the player is unable to stay
"live"...
L298[19:05:44] <flayer> they're doing a 10
km hop today?
L299[19:07:01] <FLHerne> Hopefully
L300[19:07:15] <Althego> so we are back to
10 km again
L301[19:15:28] <Althego> and elon chose
this day to not be on twitter
L302[19:21:37] <Althego> meanwhile
wintergatan 2
L303[19:25:48] <Althego> i dont trust this
new wooden contraption
L304[19:30:51] <Althego> scott 1 hour
ago
L305[19:31:29] <umaxtu> damnit Althego!
I'm trying to do homework before the hop
L306[19:37:27] <darsie> umaxtu: Let the
mechanical turk do the homework :).
L307[19:37:30] <Althego> ah they were
progressing well, now people are writing f
L308[19:37:45] <Althego> épé that was a
fraud
L309[19:37:53] <Althego> épé=lol just one
column shifted
L310[19:39:29] <raptop> épée
L311[19:39:57] <Althego> interesting, i
didnt know that
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L314[19:52:29] <Althego> somebody in a
pickup is moving around the site?
L315[19:53:00] <Althego> people are joking
it is jeff bezos
L316[19:53:22] <Althego> i didnt mention
before this, but i was hoping no interruptions this time like with
the plane
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L318[19:53:35] <Althego> and there is a
truck
L319[19:53:43] <Althego> this vould cost
an hour
L320[19:53:54] <Althego> they could have
hopped in a sane time, but no, a truck
L321[19:55:29] <Althego> i am trying to
come up with a method of timing injection burn for an escape
trajectory towards the moon without nodes. the normal travel time
is too slow
L322[19:56:18] <umaxtu> burn prograde when
the Mun comes over the horizon
L323[19:57:16] <Althego> that is for a
normal hohmann, i never tried it with an escape trajectory
L324[19:59:56] <umaxtu> oh
L325[20:00:29] <darsie> Althego: Gravity
assist for interplanetary flight?
L326[20:01:10] <Althego> no, the hohmann
is too slow. also i want to piggyback an escape trajectory
experiment on a mun probe, but no nodes yet
L327[20:02:58] <umaxtu> pirate ship!
L328[20:06:37] <Althego> it seems have to
burn way before the mun appears
L329[20:06:44] <Althego> now that means
there is no help
L330[20:15:16] <Mat2ch> the steam isn't
staying live
L331[20:15:23] <Mat2ch> every SpaceX
stream stays live
L332[20:15:27] <Mat2ch> what gives
yt?
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L336[20:18:48] <Althego> cdn problem? or
your net
L337[20:19:18] <umaxtu> Mat2ch, official
SpaceX stream?
L338[20:19:22] <umaxtu> I don't think
there is one
L339[20:20:34] <Althego> there isnt
L340[20:21:04] <umaxtu> probably don't
want to broadcast themselves giving the FAA the finger
L341[20:21:08] <Mat2ch> not yet
L342[20:21:15] <Mat2ch> last time there
was one five minutes before launch or so
L344[20:22:57] <Althego> hah 1 minute
ago
L346[20:26:32] <Althego> hehe cant get the
spacex stream
L347[20:26:39] <Althego> but watching on
two thers
L348[20:27:32] <Mat2ch> offical stream is
down for me...
L349[20:28:05] <Althego> yes
L350[20:29:00] <Althego> back on
L351[20:29:07] <darsie> on and off
L352[20:29:19] <Althego> hehe stoped
again
L353[20:32:04] <Althego> very kerbal
L354[20:32:06] <Mat2ch> one engine didn't
ignite
L355[20:32:17] <Althego> sn8 was way
better, aside from the engine flamout
L356[20:32:23] <Mat2ch> yep
L357[20:32:38] <Althego> this couldnt even
stabilize in vertical position
L358[20:33:35] <Mat2ch> one engine
misfired
L359[20:33:59] <Althego> doesnt look like
a safe way to land
L360[20:34:25] <Althego> even if
everything is right, this could happen, with people
L361[20:35:27] <Althego> hehe everyday
astronaout: 4k slow motion we jsut captured
L362[20:39:50] <Mat2ch> hrhr
L363[20:39:59] <Althego> so anyway i go to
bed
L364[20:40:03] <Mat2ch> we will get
sooooooo many angles of it tomorrow :D
L365[20:40:09] <Althego> at least 3
L366[20:40:18] <Althego> maybe somebody
from the air too? :)
L367[20:40:32] <Althego> no, at least
4
L368[20:40:39] <Mat2ch> NSF has already 3
or 4 angles!
L369[20:40:49] <Althego> nsf, labpadre,
tim and spacex
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L371[20:56:11] <Rokker> rocket go //
L372[21:03:22] <Mat2ch> boom!
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L375[21:36:14] <VanDisaster> "hard
landing"... please don't give Boeing any ideas
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