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L29[08:37:43] <Mat2ch> so, when will we see
SN8 fly? It looks like another static fire test is scheduled first
and there are lots of street closures scheduled for the next
days
L30[08:38:17] <Althego> somewhere i saw 2
static fires
L31[08:38:20] <Althego> maybe in an elon
tweet
L32[08:38:32] <Althego> so maybe not even
next week
L33[08:41:53] <Mat2ch> he said something
about Sunday for a static fire
L34[08:42:01] <Althego> that can be
L35[08:42:07] <Althego> based on all those
dates
L36[08:42:31] <Mat2ch> So I guess then they
do some data crunching and if everything is alright, we could see a
flight next Wednesday
L39[08:45:44] <Althego> yes, tesla should
make catgirl robots
L40[08:53:08] <Mat2ch> What about the
catboys?
L41[08:53:23] <Althego> nobody cares about
those :)
L42[08:53:42] <Mat2ch> Isn't it weird that
when we think about AI and robots they are always female? And
created by men? Just wondering
L43[08:54:05] <Althego> technically ai is
genderless
L44[08:54:36] <Althego> i am quite sure the
japanese will make the first really human like robots
L45[08:54:49] <Althego> and yes, they are
going to look like women
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L53[09:33:42] <Deddly> chanlog
L54[09:33:42] <Mod9000> I keep channel logs
here: bitcoinshell.mooo.com/users/deddly/?C=M;O=D
L55[09:33:49] <Althego> no
L56[09:34:01] <Deddly> Still not working,
eh?
L57[09:35:15] <Althego> not going to fix
itself
L58[09:35:30] <Deddly> Well I can't do
anything about it - their entire website is down
L59[09:35:59] <Althego> how does that bot
publish the information on the site?
L60[09:36:33] <Deddly> It just saves a text
file to a public area of the server
L61[09:36:48] <Althego> so it is running on
the same server and saves it as file
L62[09:36:56] <Deddly> Yes
L63[09:37:10] <Althego> too bad
L64[09:37:14] <Deddly> Maybe the nameserver
is down
L65[09:37:27] <Althego> if it had some kind
of ftp or something i could have helped you
L66[09:37:49] <Deddly> One of these days
I'll have time to look into it :)
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L71[10:40:35] <Althego> star wars sale on
gog
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L78[12:37:11] <Althego> (local) leet
time
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L81[13:03:30] <Althego> i see cars on the
road. so no closure
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L103[16:32:37] <Althego> tell me something
new
L105[16:35:03] <raptop> (The last one is
amusing in that how often is an exoplanet paper able to cite things
from 1924?)
L108[16:38:56] <raptop> hm
L109[17:03:05] <Althego> these are
actually interesting
L110[17:03:26] <raptop> ...hrm, I
apparently posted some of that in the wrong channel
L111[17:03:40] <Althego> the
principia?
L112[17:05:56] <Althego> venus, venus, too
much co2, mars mars mars mars, aint enough magnetosphere :)
L113[17:06:42] <raptop> That n-body
mod
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L125[18:11:20] <Althego> isnt that 100 usd
per month a bit pricey for starlink?
L126[18:13:33] <packbart> considering you
already paid $500 for the terminal? maybe, maybe not. I'm wondering
how long that sat-tracking thingy is going to survive
outdoors
L127[18:13:49] <Althego> no moving
parts
L128[18:14:08] <packbart> I don't really
expect Starlink to have other customers than the US Military. but
that's just my pessimism
L129[18:14:12] <Mat2ch> Althego: I thought
so, on the other hand it's very exclusive right now
L130[18:14:17] <Althego> dishy mcflatface
as it is called
L131[18:14:19] <Mat2ch> and compared to
the prices here... uhm :D
L132[18:14:41] <Althego> maybe the problem
is i compare it to a cable based prixing
L133[18:15:03] <Althego> because with this
it is possible to compete against those
L134[18:15:22] <Althego> but for that i
think you would need comparable prices. otherwise it will be used
only in rural areas
L135[18:15:33] <Althego> where you have no
choice
L136[18:15:41] <Althego> also it is its
own internet
L137[18:15:43] <Althego> in orbit
L138[18:21:43] <Mat2ch> and we're talking
about US rural areas, where there is one provider and you are stuck
with them
L139[18:21:53] <Mat2ch> and believe me,
many people will switch to starlink.
L140[18:22:00] <Mat2ch> Also it's going to
get cheaper over the years
L141[18:22:25] <Althego> yes that can
be
L142[18:22:49] <Althego> ad i have heard
internet on ships is basically 56k modem levels
L143[18:33:03] <Mat2ch> Iridium and
VEEEERYY expensive!
L144[18:33:06] <Mat2ch> Look up their
prices!
L145[18:33:36] <Althego> and they have way
less satellites
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L148[18:37:37] <Mat2ch> 55 USD for 10
minutes sat phone per month, or do I forget something here?
L149[18:37:38] <Althego> wait, is that
audio only, like traditional phone?
L150[18:37:56] <Althego> lol
L151[18:40:47] <raptop> I'm pretty sure
you could get more minutes for that or less on a cell phone in
1995
L152[18:44:31] <Mat2ch> For only $2,035.00
you can get unlimited internet data over inmarsat.
L153[18:44:36] <Mat2ch> The number is PER
MONTH.
L154[18:44:47] <Mat2ch> And the contract
is for 36 month
L155[18:44:48] <Althego> lol
L156[18:44:57] <Mat2ch> Any
questions?
L157[18:45:01] <Althego> is that the 4 geo
sats?
L158[18:45:02] <Mat2ch> Starlink will
disrupt that market.
L159[18:45:08] <Althego> totally
L160[18:45:36] <Althego> now i just have
to sit back and wait for my robot cat girls from testla :)
L162[18:46:40] <Althego> at least ericsson
and similar in shape
L163[18:46:46] <Althego> maybe a bit
different model
L164[18:47:36] <Mat2ch> Have you seen Ex
Machina?
L165[18:47:48] <Althego> yes
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L167[18:48:49] <Althego> not worse than
any human
L168[18:49:38] <Mat2ch> Well, worse
L169[18:50:22] <Mat2ch> Ava had no moral
problems with doing things.
L170[18:50:33] <Mat2ch> That is worse,
that's psychopathic.
L171[18:50:35] <Althego> there are such
humans too
L172[18:50:54] <Mat2ch> Yes, but they are
humans, they have human flaws still...
L173[18:50:57] <Althego> also what would
you do if some crazy scientist trapped you in his experiment?
L174[18:51:13] <Mat2ch> btw, Inmarsat has
a few more sats than 4 :D
L175[18:51:45] <raptop> Althego: Oh, you
mean grad school?
L176[18:51:51] <Althego> lol
L177[18:52:29] <Althego> the ch53ga has a
satcom systetm
L178[18:52:40] <Althego> capable of
sending files, and can be used as a conentional telephone
L179[18:52:52] <Althego> and that had
these 4 reagions around the globe
L180[18:52:58] <Althego> i though those
were 4 satellites
L181[18:53:39] <Althego> but maybe a bunch
of them clumped together
L182[18:57:10] <Mat2ch> Nah, 5 for the
Ka-Band
L183[18:57:11] <Mat2ch> ;)
L184[18:57:17] <Mat2ch> So yeah, not that
much
L185[18:57:25] <Mat2ch> they offer
different speeds with different bands and sats
L186[18:57:44] <Mat2ch> it looks like they
get 5 Mbps download with the Ka-Band
L187[18:57:57] <Althego> the device name
was scotty hsd 400 but that may have been the front panel
only
L188[18:58:04] <Althego> i cant find
it
L189[18:58:27] <Althego> funniest thing
was the data software. that was called scotty teleporter
L190[18:58:53] <Althego> i talk about this
in past tense, but these are still deployed on real
helicopters
L191[18:59:06] <Althego> i just dont have
to bother with them anymore
L192[18:59:10] <Mat2ch> well, legacy
hardware and software everywhere
L193[18:59:24] <Mat2ch> I got a job offer
I have to apply to. Required skill: Windows XP.
L194[18:59:43] <Althego> yes, ch53ga has
windows xp on the satcom pc
L195[19:00:13] <Althego> so if you somehow
manage to send a virus there you can at least partially compromise
the datalink capabilities :)
L196[19:00:46] <Mat2ch> this is all
aweful.
L197[19:00:54] <Mat2ch> I should do
something with wood.
L198[19:01:03] <Mat2ch> There might be
legacy wood, but it can be replaced easily.
L199[19:01:12] <Mat2ch> And legacy wood
can be used to create new things
L200[19:01:16] <Althego> programmable
wood?
L201[19:01:21] <Mat2ch> and if it's too
far gone you can still burn it.
L202[19:01:54] <Althego> yay for carbon
neutral enery source
L203[19:02:19] <Mat2ch> it's not really
neutral and we shouldn't burn it...
L204[19:02:33] <Mat2ch> it's neutral in
the long run, yes, but we need fast solutions
L205[19:02:52] <Althego> yes i think the
four region thing was inmarsat
L206[19:03:07] <Althego> but probably the
german military has some kind of deal wioth them :)
L207[19:03:55] <packbart> Mat2ch:
"gardener" was one of the best jobs I had. didn't pay
much for long hours, though
L208[19:04:41] <packbart>
gardener/janitor/groundskeeper, really. built fences and swings,
too
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L210[19:10:02] <darsie> Getting a surface
sample without climbing down to the surface is possibe with a
string and a sample collecting device.
L211[19:10:20] <Althego> in ksp?
L212[19:10:28] <Althego> you dont even
need to let go of the hatch
L213[19:10:42] <darsie> yes. Well, that's
my justification to not consider it cheating.
L214[19:10:48] <transitbiker> bwoop
L215[19:10:55] <Althego> what really
annoys me, we have robotic arms
L216[19:11:01] <darsie> I don't.
L217[19:11:02] <Althego> but still cant
take surface sampel with them
L218[19:11:21] <Althego> they are useful
in different ways, because they can send data that nothing else
can
L219[19:11:22] <raptop> science(tm)
L220[19:11:29] <darsie> I guess there's a
mod to do that.
L221[19:11:33] <packbart> ah, that reminds
me. there was a MM patch somewhere to build surface samples into
other parts
L222[19:11:34] <transitbiker> "its
just that? i have a big head, and little arms?."
L223[19:11:38] <packbart> going to have a
look
L224[19:12:19] <transitbiker> nyone else
running foling at home?
L225[19:12:45] <transitbiker>
anyone*
L226[19:12:57] <packbart> I've been
running Rosetta@Home for a long time
L227[19:13:08] <Althego> i used to run
world community grid something like a decade ago
L228[19:13:19] <Althego> which also does
proteins
L229[19:13:20] <packbart> switched back to
include Einstein@Home (gravitational waves, gamma-ray binaries) and
LHC@Home
L230[19:13:22] <Althego> but other stuff
too
L231[19:13:50] <packbart> GPUGrid really
puts a load on the 2090
L232[19:14:04] <transitbiker> foling at
home has a covid19 otion - theyre really ging hard on mollecular
treatments to stop the virus, MERS too.
L233[19:14:10] <transitbiker>
option*
L234[19:14:26] <Althego> world community
does stuff for several viruses too
L235[19:14:33] <Althego> +grid
L236[19:14:36] <packbart> oh, wait. Is
folding the one were you need to move molecules manually
L237[19:14:53] <transitbiker> it feels
like they are narrowing in on sme candidates - which is extremey
exciting
L240[19:15:34] <packbart> distributed
human computing
L241[19:15:49] <Althego> these are at
least not just theoretical research or physics, but can have
tangible benefits, against diseases
L242[19:16:26] <packbart> yeah,
Rosetta@Home had a lot of covid-related workunits for a while but
that seems to have run out
L243[19:16:57] <transitbiker> i encourage
anyone with a computer to contribute compute cycles toward a covid
cure - it will primarily benefit medical/hospital workers &
first responders, and later the general public
L244[19:17:45] <transitbiker> rosetta team
has pointed folks to F@H, as theyve beefed up their back end
services quite a bit
L245[19:18:51] <transitbiker> plus a
benefit for higher TDP systems: your home stays warmer with the
winter upcoming ;)
L246[19:19:07] <packbart> I use the
boinc-client, also on this server
L247[19:19:42] <transitbiker> oh, yeah, i
have heard of that via linus tech tips - i am on their F@H
team
L248[19:20:43] <transitbiker> i forgot to
post my stream links in here the last few times, but i've got a
lenovo M75s-1 and it rs KSP beautifully at nearly full
settings
L249[19:20:52] <transitbiker> runs*
L250[19:21:07] <transitbiker> i'm on me
macbook just now
L251[19:21:41] <transitbiker> how have you
all been?
L252[19:22:19] <raptop> trapped in a maze
of twisty papers and codes, all alike
L253[19:22:37] <transitbiker> sounds like
windows 95 screen saver...
L254[19:22:51] <Althego> almost finished
this year, most of the time working from home
L255[19:23:44] <Althego> so the virus is a
good thing in many ways. companies realized they dont need to cram
people in an office and move everybody each morning and afternoon
just for this
L256[19:24:46] <transitbiker> yeah - we
have been on a nerve wracking roller coaster with my girlfriend's
work - they ended up turning into a polling place for election day
but been closed to the public since march
L257[19:24:59] <transitbiker> saves on
building energy costs, i'd imagine
L258[19:26:12] <transitbiker> good news is
the twp mngr decided that only the 3 senior staff would be on shift
vs the normal split day teams
L259[19:26:51] <transitbiker> and the 4th
the building will be heavily fog disinfected
L260[19:27:04] <transitbiker> and closed
that day
L261[19:28:52] <transitbiker> the primary
concern was that masks are not required in polling places, because
you cant restrict voting based on that
L262[19:30:04] <transitbiker> our area is
having a resurgance of cases, so it was freaking us both out
L263[19:30:48] <transitbiker> anyone
upload anything new to kerbalx lately?
L264[19:35:26] <transitbiker> bbl
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L268[20:28:04] <Althego> (what about
it)
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L270[21:27:39] <packbart> ooh, the
Planetary Domes parts (beta) work with 1.10 (the transparency was
broken since 1.7). only the large dome so far but I always wanted
those back.
https://formularfetischisten.de/~packbart/temp/ksppd.jpg
L271[21:28:07] <packbart> working airlock
doors, hollow walk-through parts, floor plate with nodes
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L274[21:53:27] <packbart> Kerbbage
L275[21:56:47] <raptop> grass -> tree
-> kerbal
L276[21:58:12] <bees> -> kraken
L277[21:59:30] <raptop> no, you are the
kraken
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