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L1[00:01:54] <packbart> thar she blows. Kogon Constructor Fleet Ship #1 https://formularfetischisten.de/~packbart/temp/kspgc2.jpg
L2[00:02:14] <packbart> (evolved quite a bit from the initial draft https://formularfetischisten.de/~packbart/temp/kspls2.jpg )
L3[00:08:02] <packbart> propulsion section sold separately
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L5[00:11:51] <FLHerne> That's quite the ship
L6[00:20:26] <packbart> no wobbly problems, yet. it's still very light with empty tanks. I'll see if I can get it moved do Duna or Eve in one piece
L7[00:20:50] <packbart> on the other hand, having a construction station on solar orbit might even be more useful
L8[00:40:01] <FLHerne> What does it actually do?
L9[00:40:07] <FLHerne> I assume those are modded parts
L10[00:41:21] <packbart> yes, those are from the Global Construction mod (and some others). One day, I'm going to try EL but it scared me with too many tanks at the first encounter
L11[00:41:56] <packbart> it produces crafts from "Specialized Parts" and "Material Kits" and "Skill Hours" (engineer rank * time)
L12[00:42:45] <packbart> the idea was to go to Jool and produce probes and relays there instead of docking them all to a carrier
L13[00:43:42] <packbart> it still takes the same mass (ISRU production from "Ore" works but is sloow)
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L21[01:38:23] <taniwha> http://taniwha.org/~bill/EL_Manual.pdf
L22[01:38:34] <taniwha> gory details
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L25[01:42:53] <packbart> taniwha: I read it :) I am going to try it, still. it was a bit overwhelming at first attempt. GC basically just has two main parts, the "assembly" to create kits and the "workshop" to tun kits into crafts
L26[01:43:09] <taniwha> yeah, it can be
L27[01:43:16] <taniwha> which is why I wrote the manual
L28[01:43:34] <packbart> it doesn't handle base-building on uneven terrain as good as EL, though, from what I've seen
L29[01:44:17] <taniwha> I doubt anything does, really
L30[01:45:25] <packbart> the wisdown about the "base kraken" was still worth the read. never realize that. thanks for that, too :)
L31[01:46:58] <taniwha> yeah, that was was thanks to a guy watching my streams back end of 2018/early 2019
L32[01:47:31] <taniwha> he showed me some of his tests where the vessel was pushing itself into the ground
L33[01:48:01] <taniwha> after watching his vid a few times and remember some details of how vessels work, I had an epiphany
L34[01:48:19] <taniwha> I then experimented with the well supported light root
L35[01:48:23] <taniwha> worked like a charm :)
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L37[02:46:37] <raptop> planetary habitability https://arxiv.org/pdf/2010.13762.pdf
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L43[02:53:29] <Yeeter> Which multiplayer mod do ya'll recommend
L44[02:53:55] <umaxtu> no idea. that would require friends
L45[02:54:06] <Yeeter> :(
L46[02:54:13] <Yeeter> I will be your friend
L47[02:54:40] <Yeeter> I'm hoping to find someone who plays KSP multiplayer through NVidia GeForce NOW
L48[02:54:49] <Yeeter> So they can coach me how to make that work :P
L49[02:54:59] <umaxtu> that I can't help you with
L50[02:57:35] <raptop> I mean, we can go over stuff with rocket design and how to do maneuvers in this channel
L51[03:01:12] <Yeeter> I know how to do that--just add bunch of engines to get whatever u need into space right
L52[03:01:47] <raptop> ...
L53[03:06:01] <raptop> so, about ΔV and horizontal vs certical velocity...
L54[03:07:05] <Yeeter> what is certical vel
L55[03:07:29] <raptop> a typo of vertical
L56[03:07:44] <Yeeter> triangle v is acceleration
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L74[07:07:28] <Althego> ksp is 75% off on gog
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L82[10:35:51] <packbart> oh my, not only KSP *scrolls through wishlist*
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L85[11:04:17] <JVFoxy> eh.. anyone else gone through watching the Expanse series?
L86[11:04:52] <Althego> no, but i am waiting for the last book
L87[11:05:49] <JVFoxy> hmm.. stuck waiting till Dec before season 5 kicks in.. annoying how they can lineup such hard hitting cliffhangers. :\
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L90[11:15:15] <darsie> JVFoxy: I watched the expanse.
L91[11:15:47] <JVFoxy> finished it yesterday.. tv series, not even seen the books yet
L92[11:16:28] <Althego> to be honest, the last few books have suspense and action, but somehow getting dull
L93[11:27:30] <JVFoxy> I'll admit, I was sorta lost on a few of the political side of things.
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L109[16:55:52] <Althego> this year seems to be taking its toll on the celebrity front too
L110[16:55:54] <Althego> grant imahara, chadwik boseman, little richard, kenny rogers, eddie van halen, james randi, and now sean connery
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L112[17:21:52] <Althego> lot of mars society videos
L113[17:22:12] <Althego> at least i dont need to listen to random pro revenge and malicious compliance stories
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L116[17:43:31] <raptop> something something halloween https://www.nasa.gov/feature/jpl/new-nasa-posters-feature-cosmic-frights-for-halloween
L117[18:21:56] <Mat2ch> Althego: that is just your perception.
L118[18:22:21] <Mat2ch> Althego: because some of those are real big and world-wide know stars
L119[18:22:26] <Mat2ch> *the first
L120[18:22:54] <Mat2ch> and that started 60 to 70 years ago and now it's just their time to go.
L121[18:23:00] <Mat2ch> Next year will be the same for others
L122[18:23:57] <a_flayer> people always be dying
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L127[19:23:20] <sandbox> there's still time
L128[19:26:28] <a_flayer> personally i'm rooting for an alien invasion
L129[19:26:50] <a_flayer> "you have stolen our rocks!"
L130[19:43:04] * raptop steals a_flayer's rocs 🐦
L131[19:43:26] <Althego> you mean the asteroid sample?
L132[19:43:32] <a_flayer> yeah
L133[19:43:43] <a_flayer> it could happen.
L134[19:43:58] <raptop> hrm
L135[19:43:59] <Althego> their fault. left it there
L136[19:44:04] <raptop> Bennu is technically a bird...
L137[19:44:48] <a_flayer> i'm still in favor of shooting dart-like probes at an interstellar rock to catch a life to wherever
L138[19:45:00] <a_flayer> lift*
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L140[20:29:52] <bees> interstellar tardigrades invasion?
L141[20:30:32] <packbart> if we don't seed those asteroids with life, who will? :)
L142[20:31:05] <darsie> Asteroid impacts on Earth.
L143[20:31:42] <raptop> tardigrades and cyanobacteria
L144[20:31:46] <Althego> scott 13 minutes ago
L145[20:32:35] <a_flayer> can you imagine if they find all sorts of new bacteria and so forth
L146[20:32:43] <Althego> haha, comment. the custome suits you (yes it is a spacex spacesuite)
L147[20:32:45] <Althego> -t
L148[20:32:47] <Althego> -e
L149[20:33:14] <darsie> Is the space tesla sterile?
L150[20:33:30] <Althego> probably not completely
L151[20:33:31] <a_flayer> musk put his seed in it
L152[20:33:37] <Althego> lol
L153[20:33:47] <darsie> That's not alive.
L154[20:34:27] <a_flayer> also not sterile
L155[20:34:56] <darsie> Maybe works as protomolecules.
L156[20:46:41] <raptop> The tesla's going to be floating around for a long time before it impacts a planet (if ever)
L157[20:47:41] <Althego> maybe some people will try to find it and put it in a museum or sell it. like the pieces of the titanic
L158[20:48:02] <Rokker> museum
L159[20:48:04] * raptop is okay with this
L160[20:48:41] <Althego> oh no i forgot
L161[20:52:21] <darsie> It's still owned by Elon.
L162[20:52:52] <darsie> And be inherited if his progeny accepts the heritage.
L163[20:53:39] <Althego> i think the act of shooting it into interplanetary space removes ownership
L164[20:54:01] <Althego> not just lost it but intentionally gotrid of it
L165[20:54:24] <darsie> You don't give up ownership when tossing a frisbee.
L166[20:56:39] <darsie> Satellites are owned by whoever owned them before. Unless they're sold. Not sure if you can give up property rights to them. There are still responsibilities, e.g. when they hit something.
L167[20:56:57] <Althego> but they are also operated
L168[20:56:57] <darsie> The tesla is naturally a NEO.
L169[20:57:08] <Althego> the car is just there
L170[20:57:18] <Althego> left to disintegrate because of solar radiaton
L171[20:57:35] <darsie> If it hits my bicycle I can sue Elon.
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