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L6[00:20:37] <kubi> good morning everyone!
L7[00:20:54] <Althego> hi
L8[00:20:55] <Mod9000> Hello, Althego
L9[00:20:58] <Althego> wh
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L17[01:08:19] <Althego> https://i.imgur.com/5Jr4iZ9.png
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L19[01:14:08] <darsie> :)
L20[01:16:40] <flayer> this is the life
L21[01:16:52] <flayer> done two customers, then drove home to poop
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L28[03:54:07] <Althego> what, matt lowne started weekly space news series
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L30[03:56:29] <darsie> flayer: What's your job?
L31[04:28:32] <kubi> easy content?
L32[04:29:02] * darsie knows Matt O'Dowd.
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L34[04:35:57] <Mat2ch> Althego: too? That means there are now three or four KSP players who went from playing to making news
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L40[05:35:11] <Judge_Dedd> Kerbal News Program, eh?
L41[05:37:33] <Judge_Dedd> I actually find this very interesting. Most of us got into the game because rockets are cool, explosions are funny, and designing things by sticking bits together and seeing what happens is a dream come true. But over time, those of us who stuck around have gradually become more and more interested in actual spaceflight and details of rocket/orbital science.
L42[05:37:44] <packbart> to be fair, Matt Lowne still seems to post lots of KSP videos with the occasinal Planet Coaster thrown in https://www.youtube.com/c/MattLowneFilms/videos
L43[05:38:23] <Althego> now that we have stainless steel skin for fairings, where are my stainless steel skins for tanks?
L44[05:40:20] <Judge_Dedd> Well, with Starship hitting the headlines, that does seem like a missing art style.
L45[05:40:37] <packbart> well it might ruffle the community - https://i.imgur.com/rumtfD9.png
L46[05:40:50] <packbart> I don't really see the beauty in stainless steel skins, tbh
L47[05:41:00] <Althego> i always wanted shiny metal parts
L48[05:41:36] <packbart> but you don't want to go down the Textures Unlimited modding trail, I guess
L49[05:47:52] <Judge_Dedd> <packbart> I don't really see the beauty in stainless steel skins, tbh <-- but, but, DeLorian!
L50[05:50:46] <packbart> was a car of rather poor quality, or so I've read ;)
L51[05:51:12] <Althego> DeLorean. and yes, suposedly it wasnt good
L52[05:51:51] <Judge_Dedd> The car was all right, but the guy running the company was actually a fraudster
L53[05:51:54] <kubi> the tank painting is just terrible in general
L54[05:52:22] <kubi> I like the plan 1.875 mid-long
L55[05:52:30] <kubi> and the big orange
L56[05:52:38] <kubi> the rest is just meh...
L57[05:52:39] <Althego> also need to be able to set fuel type for all tanks, because liquid fuel only is hardly available
L58[05:52:53] <kubi> there are mods
L59[05:53:24] <Judge_Dedd> DeLorian didn't sell well because 1) People wanted colour choice, and 2) it only had 6 cylinders, and back then, the average US citizen thought that 8>6 in every way.
L60[05:54:58] <Althego> also in fuel consumption :)
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L62[05:56:52] <kubi> to me a car is what I can't hear
L63[05:57:02] <Mostly_Deddly> chanlog pls thx
L64[05:57:03] <Mod9000> I keep channel logs here: bitcoinshell.mooo.com/users/deddly/?C=M;O=D
L65[05:57:17] <kubi> now & then I'm upset of the wheel noise of my prius too
L66[05:58:09] <Mostly_Deddly> DMC Delorian still exist, by the way. They were planning on making an electric replica
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L75[06:28:27] <Judge_Dedd> I need this https://youtu.be/iC37DYTbESU?t=31
L76[06:28:49] <Althego> hehe
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L84[07:59:06] <Althego> probably it is going to be the same boring facts again, but still https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0dw0hwBYTs
L85[07:59:06] <kmath> YouTube - Perseverance Mars Rover Pre-Launch News Conference
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L91[08:34:35] <packbart> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qM7XFx12I4
L92[08:34:35] <kmath> YouTube - Kerbal Space Program - Anniversary Video
L93[08:35:03] <packbart> ( KSP is 9 - https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/195895-kerbal-space-program-anniversary-video/ )
L94[08:35:12] <Althego> hehe cant grab the snack
L95[08:35:25] * flayer tackles Althego
L96[08:35:39] <Althego> not supported protocol
L97[08:37:28] <flayer> i'm pretty sure i'm slowly losing my mind
L98[08:37:55] <Althego> arent we all?
L99[08:38:25] <flayer> yeah, but i've been having some serious deja-vus for weeks now
L100[08:40:24] <flayer> to the point where i'm seriously questioning whether or not i've had precognitive dreams about these things
L101[08:40:39] <Althego> i used to have that some decades ago
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L103[08:50:29] <Mat2ch> Ehm
L104[08:50:33] <Mat2ch> 9 years of KSP?
L105[08:50:35] <Mat2ch> woah
L106[08:50:50] <Althego> why didnt they wait until 10?
L107[08:51:04] <Mat2ch> because KSP2
L108[08:51:05] <Althego> or did this at 8, at least that would eb a round number
L109[08:52:53] <Mat2ch> well, just a nice video. That's all.
L110[08:53:14] <Mat2ch> and all those numbers, well, nice to have, but still intrusive.
L111[08:59:28] <packbart> well, that's the Unity analytics at work
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L113[09:07:34] <raptop> 9 year anniversary - was the video made by Cirno?
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L117[10:03:18] <Mat2ch> packbart: I wished they would make it at least opt-out.
L118[10:03:37] <Mat2ch> Hm, I wonder, does Take2 have an European office?
L119[10:10:25] <packbart> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0dw0hwBYTs is live now
L120[10:11:34] <Althego> of course it didnt start on its own
L121[10:12:52] <Althego> the com of the scanning arms is totally off
L122[10:13:07] <Althego> it is at the endpoint
L123[10:13:22] <Althego> even folded it should be in the center
L124[10:14:10] <Althego> and the biggest one is kind of heavy for a rover. if i put it to the side it moves the com way too much
L125[10:16:34] <packbart> I didn't notice any big problems with it, though. even when mounted on a cubic strut on the side of a rovemate
L126[10:29:27] <Althego> i wanted to put a docking port on top, in the center of the rover
L127[10:29:52] <Althego> but cant because then the arm needs to be pushed to the side and it is the third of the mass of the rover
L128[10:35:01] <packbart> I have a junior port on top. worksforme. the rover doesn't flip more than usual
L129[10:45:46] <Althego> moved two sets of batteries into each other, it is ok now, just a bit off center
L130[10:45:57] <Althego> i think batteries are really light in the game anyway
L131[10:47:00] <packbart> 20 EC/kg
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L136[11:18:04] <darsie> I think Kerbin is really light in the game, too.
L137[11:18:24] <darsie> With too low an atmospheric scale height.
L138[11:18:43] <darsie> It's lower than on Earth.
L139[11:19:10] <raptop> scale heights are a bit silly, yes
L140[11:20:11] <darsie> Maybe the atmosphere is made of xenon or so.
L141[11:20:14] <darsie> SF6
L142[11:20:22] <raptop> Also, that Duna's scale height is less
L143[11:20:48] <raptop> (Mars' scale height is ~2x Earth's)
L144[11:22:26] <Althego> duna's atmosphere max height was increased at some point, but yes, smaller gravity means higher atmosphere
L145[11:24:02] <raptop> Earth has the smallest scale height of any planet in the solar system
L146[11:24:26] <raptop> Uh, for the purposes of this, pretend that Titan is a planet
L147[11:27:34] <Althego> jupiter?
L148[11:28:55] <raptop> Jupiter's actually got a rather large scale height. ("surface" gravity is only like 2 or 2.5x earth's, and the atmosphere molecular weight is way lower)
L149[11:32:00] * raptop is willing to accept scale heights being smaller across the board in KSP because everything is smol, though)
L150[11:32:04] <raptop> s/)//
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L153[12:43:42] <Althego> i spent the whole evening designing the rover
L154[12:43:52] <Althego> maybe it would be simplet to just put wheels on a lander
L155[12:43:53] <packbart> that's the spirit
L156[12:45:07] <raptop> It's a whole new Opportunity
L157[12:45:12] <Althego> hehe
L158[12:45:49] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd7eA9L6J0s
L159[12:45:49] <kmath> YouTube - Live: Starship SN5 Static Fire Test From Boca Chica, Texas
L160[12:45:54] <Althego> hah bot is back
L161[12:45:55] <packbart> all you need is a little perseverence
L162[12:46:16] <packbart> -ance, I see
L163[12:46:23] <Althego> hehe
L164[12:46:46] <raptop> some innovation doesn't hurt either
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L166[12:47:07] <Althego> you can satisfy your curiosity about steel cylinders with the stream
L167[12:47:40] <Althego> 5 launches in 6 days?
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L169[12:51:10] <raptop> \o/
L170[12:51:47] <Althego> actually 5 launches in 4 consecutive days, starting from 2 days
L171[12:52:33] <Althego> 2020 has a 20% chance of weather issue, starlink 9 was postponed many times already
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L198[20:10:54] <transitbiker1> erm
L199[20:11:03] <transitbiker1> weird connection delay
L200[20:11:43] <transitbiker1> bwoop
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L203[20:14:23] <transitbiker> so i just discovered that my macbook (this computer) hs been running flding at home for weeks tucked in between my mac pro and powermac g4...
L204[20:14:35] <transitbiker> cu was at 85c
L205[20:14:40] <transitbiker> cpu*
L206[20:15:01] <transitbiker> er 185F
L207[20:17:35] <transitbiker> wow
L208[20:19:08] <transitbiker> hah yeah its 185F/85C thats funny
L209[20:19:44] <transitbiker> in any case.. yeah, it was very hot where the cpu sits in th case
L210[20:20:18] <transitbiker> down to about 142F/64C
L211[20:25:03] <transitbiker> anyone awake in here?
L212[20:25:29] <umaxtu> sorta
L213[20:25:49] <transitbiker> in unix, if a thread count is 5/2 what does that mean?
L214[20:26:39] <umaxtu> for a single process?
L215[20:26:46] <transitbiker> yes
L216[20:28:17] <umaxtu> threads/cores maybe?
L217[20:28:37] <transitbiker> so 5 threads per core?
L218[20:28:41] <transitbiker> hmm
L219[20:29:05] <umaxtu> what utility are you using?
L220[20:29:13] <transitbiker> just /top
L221[20:31:30] <transitbiker> cpu is a core 2 duo 2.1 ghz
L222[20:31:49] <umaxtu> so 5 threads 2 cores. thats my bet
L223[20:32:32] <transitbiker> load is around 200%, so i'm guessing tat means both cores are being utilized at or near 100%?
L224[20:32:44] <umaxtu> yeah
L225[20:32:56] <transitbiker> hm.. neat.. thanks for that info
L226[20:33:05] <umaxtu> its just a guess on my part
L227[20:34:31] <umaxtu> also, 85c isn't unheard of with today's macs
L228[20:36:37] <transitbiker> its a mid 2008? the mac pro it was sitting against is averaging 45c, wth the zens inside having a max thermal spec at 53.. it is also running at 200% per cpu - basically the macbook was not getting cool air
L229[20:36:47] <transitbiker> zeons*
L230[20:37:15] <umaxtu> macs are basically designed to thermal throttle these days
L231[20:39:16] <transitbiker> the move to ARM is a smart one, i feel?. intel is lagging behind and people expect higher end amd chips in more exensive stuff such as what aple's price points are
L232[20:41:07] <umaxtu> I just hope everyone else doesn't follow suit. I like having Linux on my laptop
L233[20:41:36] <transitbiker> personally, i have always preferred amd & motorola chips
L234[20:41:59] <umaxtu> motorola? thats a hell of a throwback
L235[20:43:00] <transitbiker> the G3 is still manufactured for aerospace applications
L236[20:45:19] <umaxtu> like I should be talking, I've got a 6502 on a breadboard to my right
L237[20:45:54] <transitbiker> heh
L238[20:46:09] <transitbiker> what were those last used in?
L239[20:46:22] <transitbiker> i want t say LC
L240[20:47:19] <umaxtu> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WDC_65C02#Notable_uses_of_the_65C02
L241[20:49:37] <transitbiker> oh ok the 02 bit threw me
L242[20:49:58] <umaxtu> yeah, that model is still being made actually
L243[20:53:36] <transitbiker> the 6502 or the 68020?
L244[20:54:02] <umaxtu> the 65c02
L245[20:55:13] <transitbiker> ah
L246[20:55:21] <transitbiker> i think both may be? o.o
L247[20:56:46] <transitbiker> 1.75 watts? thats pretty decent
L248[20:58:31] <transitbiker> rochester makes them...
L249[20:58:37] <transitbiker> bbl
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