OCLogs: 2020-07-28.log

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L37[08:12:35] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e079qw6RcKc

L38[08:12:35] <kmath> YouTube - Let's watch SpaceX static fire Starship SN-5!

L39[08:12:40] <Althego> another spaceship static

L40[08:12:46] <Althego> (no fire :))

L41[08:15:04] <umaxtu> yesterday's attempt or today's?

L42[08:23:27] <Althego> i was joking because nothing happened yesterday

L43[08:23:36] <Althego> so we are just watching a static steel cylinder

L44[08:26:48] <flayer> epic stuff

L45[08:28:57] <umaxtu> there was an RCS test

L46[08:29:03] <umaxtu> very briefly

L47[08:32:07] <flayer> i wish i had someone to massage my feet

L48[08:35:02] <Althego> i cant believe it. the hardware unboxed autogenerated captions correctly say welcome back to hardware unboxed.

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L50[08:42:17] <umaxtu> I remember when those we first introduced and they thought Obama said "mafia tax credits" ?️

L51[08:42:46] <Althego> lol

L52[08:50:15] <Althego> haha live in 2 hours

L53[08:50:27] <Althego> we cant even watch the static cylinder

L54[08:54:13] <Mat2ch> there are several webcams, so technically you could :D

L55[08:55:28] <Althego> yes spadre

L56[08:55:42] <Althego> that was really useful for the explosion, several vew angles

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L64[10:25:01] <Mat2ch> It's so sad that so few people will get to see space

L65[10:25:03] <Mat2ch> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC286Dnq4M4

L66[10:25:03] <kmath> YouTube - Virgin Galactic Spaceship Cabin Design Reveal

L67[10:25:11] <Mat2ch> you have to skip the first 10 minutes.

L68[10:25:24] <Mat2ch> But it would be so great if we just could go to space with an airliner...

L69[10:25:49] <Althego> hah just finished

L70[10:26:01] <packbart> in an electric plane. thing of the environment! :)

L71[10:26:16] <packbart> think, d'Oh

L72[10:26:17] <flayer> one thing i still can't do well is determine where i land when i return from the mun

L73[10:26:22] <Althego> wild thing

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L77[10:45:45] <Althego> hehe still no stream

L78[10:45:54] <Althego> it moves further

L79[10:46:17] <Althego> like achilleus and the tortoise

L80[10:49:27] <raptop> Achilles refuses to join the race because of a loot disagreement with Agammemnon

L81[11:11:01] <Mat2ch> flayer: that is in fact really hard to predict.

L82[11:11:38] <Mat2ch> One degree off and you're missing by half of the planet

L83[11:11:38] <Althego> the issue is, the game does not help you

L84[11:12:32] <Althego> you could do some modulo like something. see where you trajectory intersects the surface, then take the remaining time until there, and based on the rotation of the planet you could find the offset from that

L85[11:12:38] <Althego> i never tried this

L86[11:12:50] <Althego> for precision landing i circularize first

L87[11:13:07] <Althego> but nasa can do a direct landing and this annoys me, becaause i cant even do it in the game

L88[11:13:13] <Mat2ch> and the entry angle into the atmosphere changes everything, too

L89[11:13:38] <Mat2ch> Althego: well you can calculate it backwards

L90[11:13:44] <Mat2ch> and that's what they're doing

L91[11:14:25] <Mat2ch> They start with: I wanna be back on this date and then go back in time until they reach the first manouver

L92[11:14:38] <Mat2ch> In KSP this is mostly impossible

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L94[11:15:46] <Althego> ah when, not where

L95[11:16:04] <Althego> when is secondary for me. do it the fastest possible, on non hohmann if possible

L96[11:16:14] <Althego> just dont conflict with another reentry

L97[11:16:35] <Althego> which happens foten. like i sent a minmus mission days ago, and of course a regular mun mission coming back happens to be at the same time

L98[11:33:19] <Mat2ch> Althego: well, if you can calculate it for one date it should be possible to do that for other dates, too ;)

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L101[11:41:52] <sandbox> new version

L102[11:43:24] <packbart> ooh, indeed

L103[11:43:53] <packbart> https://store.steampowered.com/newshub/app/220200?emclan=103582791433984807&emgid=4097664507345133420

L104[11:44:32] <packbart> Steam scheduled the download for the weekend. rrright

L105[11:44:45] <packbart> 1.1MB - that's a very small patch

L106[11:45:12] <packbart> weird, another Steam client downloads 10MB

L107[11:45:44] <raptop> chanlogs

L108[11:45:58] <packbart> no Modbot

L109[11:46:12] <packbart> 14:57 <+Mod9000> I keep channel logs here: bitcoinshell.mooo.com/users/deddly/?C=M;O=D

L110[11:46:50] <raptop> site is down apparently

L111[11:47:22] *** raptop changes topic to Kerbal Space Program official channel | versions: KSP1 1.10.1 KSP2 NaN | Rules: tinyurl.com/KSP-Rules | "modcall" to call ops | Δv maps: https://i.imgur.com/CHVnEeE.png https://i.imgur.com/gBoLsSt.png | "chanlog" to see what people are talking about

L112[11:50:10] <Althego> ah 1.10.1

L113[11:50:18] <Althego> when did that happen?

L114[11:50:34] <raptop> today(ish)

L115[11:50:56] <packbart> the Steam update was posted "11 minutes ago"

L116[11:51:22] <raptop> forum patch notes are from 8 hours ago apparently

L117[11:53:15] <Althego> i got it. i have to put the docking port to the nose of the mun rover. then use a robot arm to lover one to the correct height

L118[11:53:22] <Althego> then i dont need to fit it to the top

L119[11:53:32] <Althego> also i dont need to make the rover jump to rech the port

L120[11:53:42] <Althego> this was because of old ways of thinking without arm

L121[11:53:48] <Althego> or robotics

L122[11:54:10] <Althego> i thougth i would just move under the ship and jump up with the rover connecting to the docking port

L123[11:57:46] <Althego> or i can make the whole ship flat, lands flat, but main engine is on one edge. almost like a spaceplane with a rocer attached

L124[11:58:12] <Althego> hmm

L125[11:58:26] <Althego> that sounds too cool to not do it

L126[11:58:49] <packbart> my Minmus NinjaBase had a robotically stowed rover. https://formularfetischisten.de/~packbart/temp/kspmb.jpg

L127[11:59:04] <Althego> cute rover

L128[11:59:12] <Althego> but i cant design rovers at all

L129[11:59:16] <packbart> the hinges and cylinders didn't keep their positions during transit, though

L130[11:59:20] <Althego> and it has to carry a big robot arm for scanning

L131[12:00:14] <packbart> well, the small thing does have a big arm, too. attached with an cubic strut

L132[12:00:42] <Althego> ah so the whike base is big

L133[12:01:09] <Althego> i should have known based on the the legs and engines

L134[12:01:24] <Althego> i want to hop around the polar regions

L135[12:01:36] <Althego> and need to contract scan two somethings there

L136[12:01:39] <packbart> yeah, I didn't took any good pictures of it, though. https://formularfetischisten.de/~packbart/temp/kspnb.jpg

L137[12:02:11] <Althego> https://www.engadget.com/international-space-station-radiation-mold-chernobyl-121856835.html

L138[12:02:12] <packbart> using BonVoyage may be cheaty but it gets a lot more rover science done when I don't have to do all the driving

L139[12:02:35] <Althego> ladies and gentlemen, i present you the mold shielded bio wall ship

L140[12:05:52] <packbart> there was some talk on another channel about the substrate and whether the Mars colonists would need to venture outside and spray it with a nutrient solution

L141[12:11:05] <Althego> aha copenhagen suborbitals video

L142[12:19:10] <Althego> oh no a pbs space time live... but i have to sleep. and i hardly progressed anything with the rover and polar lander setup

L143[12:30:32] <packbart> every time I open the SN5 static fire link, the time increased. now "live in 90 minutes"

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L146[12:48:41] <Althego> that is what i said with the tortoise

L147[12:48:45] <Althego> cant catch up with it

L148[12:49:23] <Althego> there is a lone baobab tree west from the space center. towards the mountains not far from the trees

L149[12:49:25] <Althego> 10 science

L150[12:59:32] <Althego> lol i cant scan it, because wheels are moving on their own even with brakes on, but the car is moving backwards, opposite direction of the wheels

L151[13:01:28] <Althego> so just as yesterday i do not scan the tree today

L152[13:01:35] <Althego> at least i simplified the rover

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L154[13:06:46] <Althego> this is problematic, because i want to use this on the mun

L155[13:07:01] <Althego> so if i cant scan here then probably cant scan there

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L157[13:09:13] <packbart> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SB951PiVyE

L158[13:09:13] <kmath> YouTube - Kerbal Wireframe Program

L159[13:10:17] <packbart> creative use of flags

L160[13:10:55] <packbart> ( https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/195104-the-esa-exploit-challenge/ )

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L167[14:57:49] <kubi> so, is it good enough or wait for .2?

L168[14:58:40] <JVFoxy> well.. considering I play it regardless..

L169[14:58:51] <JVFoxy> you might be waiting a while for .2 to come out

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