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L3[00:32:50] <packbart> I figured out Elon Musk's secret plan. Become King of Mars with a seed population of humans, then use the starlinks to kesslerize Earth, so noone can follow
L4[00:33:18] <Althego> hehehe
L5[00:39:51] <darsie> :)
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L9[01:39:22] <JVFoxy> so... mun orbit mission but also a rescue in LKO.. how to put two together.
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L11[01:39:56] <JVFoxy> originally was going fly up, minus a crew.. rescue, continue on to mun, orbit. Try to snag as many biomes there, return.
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L13[01:40:34] <JVFoxy> then got this crazy idea, launch rescue 'pod'.. then the main ship. dock, take pod along to Mun. Use it to venture out from ship to get a few of the biomes
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L16[01:46:40] <darsie> JVFoxy: https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/Jetpack_deorbit
L17[01:49:27] <JVFoxy> lol.. superman attitude
L18[01:49:33] <darsie> :)
L19[01:49:48] <JVFoxy> thanks but I actually wanna take the rescue with me.. give him XP while on the flight
L20[01:50:24] <JVFoxy> I only need pilot and scientist... free seat for him.. if I don't take the pod. Otherwise, gotta be cozying up with Jeb and Val
L21[01:50:53] <JVFoxy> val probably take the pod out for a buzz around
L22[01:51:10] <JVFoxy> maybe even get that 'docking' first in mun orbit as well
L23[01:52:52] <Judge_Dedd> I like the way you're thinking
L24[01:54:06] <JVFoxy> more than one way to peel a banana...
L25[01:54:20] <Judge_Dedd> packbart, I'm surprised nobody has made a film based on that, followed by an invasion from the "Marsians"
L26[02:00:32] <Althego> hehe
L27[02:01:44] <JVFoxy> some people.. snap the banana in half, pealing takes too much time
L28[02:03:06] <Judge_Dedd> Don't tell Vanamonde
L29[02:04:37] <Althego> the evil martian king could be called zelon dusk :)
L30[02:06:01] <JVFoxy> Delon Zusk...?
L31[02:06:40] <JVFoxy> Zelon dusk sounds like dusk on some weird planet named Zelon
L32[02:13:08] <Althego> zelon dusk - elon musk
L33[02:14:45] <JVFoxy> Melon usk
L34[02:15:48] <JVFoxy> Sorry.. Elon.. makes me think its missing that 'M' or something
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L36[02:18:23] <Althego> there was a game, zax, alien hunter or something like that. the this zax called the spaceship computer to zelon
L37[02:18:52] <Althego> -to
L38[02:18:55] <Althego> -the
L39[02:24:01] <JVFoxy> oooh
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L43[02:43:26] <packbart> planet Mars will be renamed Mursk, of course
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L46[02:50:08] <Mat2ch> That sounds an awful lot like Kursk. And that would be a bad sign.
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L50[03:10:58] <hatrix> made a pdf with the equations to get an orbital network around Rhode https://hatrix.fr/relay_ksp.pdf
L51[03:12:49] <Mat2ch> the TeX is strong in this one
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L53[03:57:10] <hatrix> the period for Rhode in Kopernicus is 47390, but in KSP it's 47280 (2d1h8m)
L54[03:57:15] <hatrix> where does the difference come from?
L55[04:03:20] <Eddi|zuHause> probably lots of things are named "kursk"
L56[04:03:25] <hatrix> also the moon Lua is not in a perfect synchronous orbit, meaning given time my satellites will get captured
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L58[04:04:00] <Althego> lua, hehe
L59[04:04:08] <darsie> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kursk_(disambiguation)
L60[04:05:05] <hatrix> so I can't achieve a synchronous orbit after all :|
L61[04:05:12] <hatrix> I'll have to match Lua and hope its SOI isn't too big
L62[04:05:41] <Althego> or as just q advised, just change the gravitational constant of the universe
L63[04:05:49] <Althego> *just as
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L66[04:20:25] <Eddi|zuHause> darsie: ok, i was expecting at least one place in america :)
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L69[05:26:20] <packbart> ooh, my pet bug was updated from "New" to "Investigating". just as I was pondering to bump its version number ;)
L70[05:26:37] <packbart> (a rare NullRef in the VAB. no game breaker and rather lowest prio :)
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L72[05:32:28] <Althego> amazing
L73[05:35:59] <Judge_Dedd> You know the guys are in that tracker all the time, right?
L74[05:38:25] <packbart> I didn't really, to be honest. I'm just happy "my" low-prio bug might get fixed
L75[05:38:38] <Judge_Dedd> Nice :)
L76[05:39:36] <packbart> and I know the other side, too. Going over the bug tracker is not a fun task
L77[05:43:29] <Azander> I hate dealing with bug trackers.. both sides.
L78[05:44:03] <Azander> though I have to agree with packbart, the coder side is usually a bigger pain
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L81[06:10:11] <Guest31931> hello
L82[06:10:12] <Mod9000> Hello, Guest31931
L83[06:10:23] <Judge_Dedd> Hello
L84[06:10:24] <Mod9000> Hello, Judge_Dedd
L85[06:10:34] <Judge_Dedd> And hi, Mod9000, nice to see you too
L86[06:11:52] <Althego> hehe
L87[06:12:16] <Althego> playing with the sock puppet
L88[06:12:24] <Judge_Dedd> Funny thing is, Althego, I even thought about not triggering it, and forgot it was set up for the other greeting phrase too :P
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L90[06:13:03] <Judge_Dedd> Althego, you mean Guest31931 is you?
L91[06:13:07] <Guest31931> little question : i was try to add ksp players;com add on ?? is it close ???
L92[06:13:10] <Althego> no
L93[06:13:26] <Althego> but the bot is you in a sense
L94[06:13:37] <Judge_Dedd> Sorry Guest31931, I'm not sure I understand your question
L95[06:13:54] <Guest31931> sorry french with bad english
L96[06:14:01] <Judge_Dedd> Althego, it has a life of its own now. It's full-on Skynet ;)
L97[06:14:16] <Judge_Dedd> Guest31931, no problem, we will try and help each other understand :)
L98[06:14:29] <Althego> i guess there is a mod for the game called players.com?
L99[06:14:30] <Guest31931> for install the add ksp-players it asking login
L100[06:14:56] <Althego> https://www.curseforge.com/kerbal/ksp-mods/ksp-players
L101[06:15:05] <Judge_Dedd> Aha!
L102[06:15:31] <Guest31931> and i dont arrived to create a account
L103[06:15:38] <Judge_Dedd> Oh Guest31931, that looks like quite an old add-on
L104[06:15:45] <Judge_Dedd> From 2016
L105[06:15:51] <packbart> yeah, the domain ksp-players.com looks abandoned, too
L106[06:16:01] <Judge_Dedd> What was it?
L107[06:16:13] <Judge_Dedd> Like a ranking system?
L108[06:16:15] <Guest31931> a communoty quest and chat
L109[06:16:19] <Althego> yesm, there is a link in the forum post for the login creation
L110[06:16:31] <Guest31931> TY
L111[06:16:39] <Guest31931> so its not just me
L112[06:16:40] <Guest31931> TY
L113[06:16:56] <Guest31931> existing a good discord ???
L114[06:16:58] <Judge_Dedd> I wonder if anyone took over the project
L115[06:17:08] <Althego> i know there is a discor
L116[06:17:43] <Judge_Dedd> Guest31931, Reddit has a Discord server, but it is not official from KSP
L117[06:17:57] <Judge_Dedd> This is the only official KSP chat place, but there are unofficial ones, too :)
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L119[06:19:23] <Judge_Dedd> Guest31931, https://discord.gg/ZpckqJD
L120[06:19:39] <Judge_Dedd> But I have no idea what the community is like there
L121[06:20:44] <Judge_Dedd> Guest31931, there is also an official French forum here https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/forum/100-french-fran%C3%A7ais/
L122[06:21:35] <Judge_Dedd> Guest31931, KSP Discord en Frencais: https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/174742-fr-discord-francophone-ksp/
L123[06:21:43] <Judge_Dedd> Francais*
L124[06:24:47] <Mat2ch> ksp-players looks like it was a great idea. Easy way to share crafts, etc.
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L126[06:26:11] <Judge_Dedd> Aurevoir :(
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L128[06:36:08] <packbart> isn't that served by kerbalx.com, too?
L129[06:36:23] <Althego> there are probaly several replacements
L130[06:36:25] <packbart> Steam Workshop works, too, in a way
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L133[07:39:12] * Judge_Dedd misses Spaceport
L134[07:39:30] <Judge_Dedd> Best name for any craft sharing service
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L139[08:31:56] <flayer> is 6 PM too early for bed?
L140[08:32:43] <Althego> no if you havent slept last nigth
L141[08:41:49] <sandbox> I keep going to bed around midnight
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L143[08:43:20] <Guest78607> Hello
L144[08:43:23] <Mod9000> Hello, Guest78607
L145[08:43:25] <Althego> hi
L146[08:43:26] <Mod9000> Hello, Althego
L147[08:43:28] <Althego> no
L148[08:43:57] <Guest78607> hello
L149[08:43:58] <Mod9000> Hello, Guest78607
L150[08:44:03] <Althego> it is a bot
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L153[08:44:28] <MKy> Hello Bonjour
L154[08:44:49] <Althego> at least it doesnt reacto to that
L155[08:45:19] <MKy> FR je cherche a installer un shader compatible KSP 1.9.1
L156[08:45:40] <MKy> I
L157[08:46:21] <MKy> EN i try to find a good realistic shader on a ksp1.91
L158[08:47:02] <Althego> usually stock visual enhancements and scatterer together
L159[08:49:28] <MKy> wich version of stock visual ???
L160[08:49:29] <hatrix> MKy: c'est que anglais ici :)
L161[08:50:30] <hatrix> https://github.com/Galileo88/StockVisualEnhancements/releases MKy
L162[08:50:48] <hatrix> I don't see anything related to KSP version though
L163[08:50:54] <hatrix> you might be fine with the latest one, try it out
L164[08:51:42] <MKy> i goint to try it now
L165[08:51:56] <MKy> and scaterrer version .?
L166[08:52:11] <hatrix> https://github.com/LGhassen/Scatterer/releases
L167[08:52:25] <hatrix> the changelog says it works on 1.9
L168[08:54:14] <MKy> TY becaus i have try with CKan an the version are bugging
L169[08:54:23] <MKy> TY hatrix
L170[08:54:25] <hatrix> I hate CKAN
L171[08:54:43] <hatrix> usually I prefer checking the versions myself on github
L172[08:55:51] <hatrix> you can pm me in french if you're having problems
L173[08:55:56] <MKy> Ty i go uninstal ckan
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L177[09:12:50] <packbart> I've come to like CKAN. Didn't have any problems with it, yet. (with some mods not specifically compatible with 1.9, though)
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L182[09:48:29] <lordcirth> CKAN is nice. One of the NF mods is timing out while downloading atm, not sure why
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L188[10:43:49] <hatrix> CKAN crashes on my linux
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L191[11:00:44] <flayer> Althego, I slept alright last night, but missed the night before -- had a 2 1/2 hour nap now, feeling much better
L192[11:01:19] <Althego> the problem with this is that you cant sleep this nigth
L193[11:01:34] <flayer> maybe
L194[11:01:56] <flayer> i will get intoxicated and see how it unfolds
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L196[11:06:50] <lordcirth> hatrix, what distro? You probably need newer mono
L197[11:07:59] <hatrix> arch
L198[11:08:02] <hatrix> everything is up to date
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L200[11:25:13] <lordcirth> hatrix, what error message does CKAN give?
L201[11:26:53] <flayer> hatrix, they are going to force ckan on you, run, run away!
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L203[11:38:01] <hatrix> haha
L204[11:38:19] <hatrix> it crashes randomly
L205[11:38:26] <hatrix> usually before I manage to do something useful
L206[11:38:41] <hatrix> but my KSP works right now so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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L212[11:58:16] <hatrix> really simple relay network https://i.imgur.com/RdWaA9r.png
L213[11:58:24] <Guest89375> hmm
L214[11:58:31] <hatrix> well, it took quite a while to compute everything
L215[11:59:07] <Guest89375> are there any spots you dont get coverage in the kerbin system?
L216[11:59:29] <hatrix> you mean in general or right now?
L217[11:59:34] <Guest89375> in general
L218[12:00:02] <hatrix> if you don't have a relay network then yes
L219[12:00:07] <hatrix> but it depends on your difficulty settings
L220[12:01:13] <Guest89375> yea
L221[12:01:35] <Guest89375> but with that network do you get full coverage all the time?
L222[12:02:06] <hatrix> not at all
L223[12:02:21] <hatrix> I just started a new career and I don't have a lot of parts
L224[12:02:43] <hatrix> this relay will be good enough for the probes I've got to put in Rhode orbit
L225[12:02:50] <hatrix> nothing much more
L226[12:02:55] <Guest89375> I geuss on the far side of the mun you dont
L227[12:03:25] <hatrix> indeed
L228[12:04:25] <hatrix> I forgot to put a KER module on the sats though :(
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L230[12:06:24] <hatrix> and Jeb's getting back safely https://i.imgur.com/MYTLO9c.png
L231[12:06:47] <Althego> nice chutes
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L233[12:07:28] <Althego> what is that ring on the capsule?
L234[12:07:45] <hatrix> decoupler
L235[12:08:00] <hatrix> I put the fairing on top
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L237[12:08:28] <hatrix> like that https://i.imgur.com/LCUpDPY.png
L238[12:08:45] <Althego> ah secondary payloads
L239[12:08:58] <hatrix> what do you mean secondary?
L240[12:09:19] <hatrix> I couldn't fint a better way to get both the fairing and Jeb on the same craft
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L242[12:13:13] <JVFoxy> I did a satellite delivery mission ages ago. Managed to cram two relay satellites into a 2.5m service bay. Granted, the mounting for them was a little funky but eh...
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L246[12:16:46] <hatrix> even RCS on 0.5 thrust are too powerful
L247[12:18:54] <JVFoxy> you can adjust the levels lower... I'm thankful you can reduce RW power now too
L248[12:19:55] <JVFoxy> not sure in which updates, rcs blocks power got halved..
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L254[12:50:05] <Black_Eagle> so i couldn't get my juno + dawn + srb to work
L255[12:50:16] <Black_Eagle> it'd be better off as a rocket instead of a plane
L256[12:50:55] <packbart> solid ion boosters ;)
L257[12:50:57] <Black_Eagle> i've never actually built a successful plane that works with an expendable stage
L258[12:51:02] <Black_Eagle> packbart yes :D
L259[12:51:04] <Black_Eagle> need those
L260[12:51:08] <flayer> put them on both wings
L261[12:51:26] <Black_Eagle> flayer and launch them like missiles?
L262[12:51:35] <flayer> whichever
L263[12:51:39] <Black_Eagle> heh
L264[12:51:41] <Althego> no, drop them like bombs
L265[12:51:44] <Althego> after they burnt out
L266[12:52:10] <Black_Eagle> but yeah, i tried that. i think i need to try a bigger air breathing engine
L267[12:52:15] <Black_Eagle> juno wasn't up to the task
L268[12:52:24] <flayer> yeah
L269[12:52:32] <Althego> solid boosters would work well with low twr start
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L271[12:53:22] <Black_Eagle> the idea was to air breathe to 10km, srb to suborbital and circularize with ion
L272[12:53:26] <Black_Eagle> didn't really work out that way
L273[12:54:01] <Black_Eagle> due to rocket equation the srb stage usually ends up being massive, like longer than the plane itself massive
L274[12:54:27] <JVFoxy> or could just do a rocket plane all the way up from the runway..
L275[12:54:35] <Black_Eagle> pretty much
L276[12:54:38] <Black_Eagle> srb plane, lol
L277[12:55:03] <JVFoxy> I wouldn't go with SRBs though.. ISP is kind of low. End up with a lot of mass
L278[12:55:23] <Black_Eagle> [04/06 11:53;39] <@Judge_Dedd> Black_Eagle, I think SRB+Xenon is an interesting idea because the ion thrusters do come in size 0
L279[12:55:42] <Black_Eagle> this is the original idea
L280[12:55:50] <JVFoxy> my.. penguin was a weird sort of design. used the skipper as main engine, two liquid fueled boosters kind of strapped low to the sides. Took off from runway
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L286[13:04:14] <Black_Eagle> centaur tribal seems interesting
L287[13:04:28] <Black_Eagle> oops wrong channel
L288[13:04:47] <Althego> hehe
L289[13:09:01] <flayer> I'm about to buy all Stellaris DLCs. I'm going to be overwhelmed with all the stuff.
L290[13:09:10] <Althego> hehe
L291[13:09:32] <JVFoxy> yup. sounds about right. same thing can happen with ksp if you get too many mods
L292[13:11:07] <flayer> there might be a steam sale in a few weeks
L293[13:11:40] <Althego> where is my summer? i want my well deserved hot summer
L294[13:13:28] * raptop checks a local weather station. 86.7 F
L295[13:13:40] <raptop> And it hit the low 90s the other day
L296[13:13:41] <Althego> rans and clouds even for next week
L297[13:13:45] <Althego> as was the whole may
L298[13:13:51] <raptop> Note: there was rain last night
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L300[13:14:05] <raptop> And it's cloudy right now
L301[13:19:11] <JVFoxy> don't mind the cooler weather..
L302[13:19:39] <JVFoxy> I tried to run AC last year, kept blowing breakers because other roommate decided to run stuff off the same circuit. :\
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L305[13:42:18] <JVFoxy> Huh.. 8-bit guy video, goes down to Huston, TX. visits a few space related points of interests. Namely a couple of NASA places
L306[13:42:38] <JVFoxy> later part of the video mind you. Most of the rest talks about computer related things
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L329[15:42:58] <flayer> 8 & 1/2 years into the space program and i've finally reached jool
L330[15:49:06] <flayer> i hope the next ksp will have life forms on kerbin & other planets
L331[16:03:22] <JVFoxy> oh heh... in game time
L332[16:03:57] <JVFoxy> was about to say... KSP hasn't been around quite /that/ long.. has it?
L333[16:05:58] <darsie> There's a kraken.
L334[16:06:43] <JVFoxy> here's a Kraken..
L335[16:06:49] <JVFoxy> everyone's a Kraken...
L336[16:06:53] <JVFoxy> ....
L337[16:06:57] <JVFoxy> everywhere's I mean.
L338[16:07:00] <darsie> I have 10 fingers.
L339[16:07:35] <JVFoxy> kraken games... should be a kerbal programming company
L340[16:07:55] <darsie> Kraken is a cryptocurrency exchange.
L341[16:09:06] <JVFoxy> kraken bitcoins huh? so it is a thing
L342[16:09:44] <darsie> https://www.kraken.com/
L343[16:13:29] <JVFoxy> geez, so many different crypto's.. thought Bitcoin was the only thing. Just saw market listing of various versions
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L351[16:48:08] <flayer> JVFoxy, its almost like real money, that bitcoin!
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L354[16:57:01] <JVFoxy> either way I can't afford it
L355[17:00:21] <packbart> it's all cryptocapitalism ;)
L356[17:00:32] * packbart spends some Funds
L357[17:01:13] <JVFoxy> again... not that I can afford anything as it is
L358[17:01:44] <JVFoxy> or if I can, it doesn't really last too long. just telling a friend, knowing my luck, something seems to always come up, suck away teh last of my money then some
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L363[17:19:29] <flayer> i'm going to try and send two separate vessels to jool and stay within 2 km the entire trip
L364[17:21:22] <flayer> i think i can do it if i slowly accelerate on each burn, using about 4-5 burns (say 2 to get to solar orbit, 2 to encounter jool, 1 for a laythe intercept)
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L378[19:31:28] <raptop> https://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinmgill/49972223316/
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