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L38[05:17:19] <hatrix> perfect ascent https://i.imgur.com/9eylEu0.png
L39[05:22:55] <darsie> .
L40[05:23:55] <JVFoxy> uh... whoops?
L41[05:24:33] <darsie> I can do it perfecter ;).
L42[05:25:06] <JVFoxy> surprised it hadn't snapped in half by that point
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L47[05:34:42] <JVFoxy> I'm debating if I should just jump right into this mun orbit contract. Or, see about doing a little focus on relay network (no additional tracking stations)
L48[05:35:10] <darsie> Debate with who?
L49[05:35:47] <darsie> What's the Mun contract?
L50[05:35:54] <darsie> orbit ...
L51[05:38:39] <JVFoxy> stupid connection
L52[05:38:41] <JVFoxy> sorry
L53[05:39:02] <JVFoxy> contract to orbit the mun and return.
L54[05:39:50] <Althego> specific orbit?
L55[05:39:55] <JVFoxy> nah
L56[05:39:55] <darsie> Easy contract.
L57[05:40:05] <Althego> then it is just too easy
L58[05:40:13] <JVFoxy> though... for a challenge, second level launch pad but only first level VAB
L59[05:40:20] <Althego> do it on free return trajectory and slow down a bit when around the mun
L60[05:40:39] <JVFoxy> heh.. I've always been doing free return trajectories now
L61[05:41:51] <darsie> Don't even need an antenna. Might need to do orbital insertion with partial control.
L62[05:41:59] <JVFoxy> was thinking to do a two launch. First is injection booster that would double as relay.. then the crewed vessel
L63[05:42:31] <JVFoxy> dock in LKO, booster out to mun orbit. level it behind to act as relay. Come back on crew's own engine
L64[05:42:55] <darsie> Do you have mods making this more complicated?
L65[05:43:35] <JVFoxy> stock... I mean if I really wanted to, I could do it just with a probe core by itself. But I wanted to get the extra sci with crew out there. And a sci Jr for high and low orbits
L66[05:44:02] <JVFoxy> lol... complicated huh? Well.. RO might be a bit taxing for my system..? I've yet to try
L67[05:44:27] <darsie> You could bring a computer and a scientist.
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L69[05:46:16] <darsie> https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/File:Duna_sample_return_rocket.png won't need docking in LKO.
L70[05:47:22] <darsie> Scientist can reuse Science Jr.
L71[05:47:27] <darsie> And goo.
L72[05:48:28] <darsie> https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/Tutorial:Low_tech_Duna_sample_return
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L74[05:49:06] <JVFoxy> computer... as in probe core?
L75[05:49:12] <darsie> yes
L76[05:49:21] <JVFoxy> you thinking to just use the 1 person crew pod instead of the 3?
L77[05:49:30] <darsie> yes
L78[05:49:57] <JVFoxy> flight out there, back.. 2-3 kerbin days right?
L79[05:50:06] <darsie> mhm
L80[05:50:34] <darsie> I'm a minimalist, often.
L81[05:50:46] <JVFoxy> technically I could but...
L82[05:50:57] <darsie> If you like 3 Kerbal crews, that's fine, too.
L83[05:52:09] <JVFoxy> guess the whole idea of just the one going out there, isolated for so long...
L84[05:52:35] <JVFoxy> I could have been a bit influenced by the stuff NASA has done
L85[05:52:36] <darsie> Take one with high stupidity, they don't mind so much :).
L86[05:54:37] <JVFoxy> the up side of the 3 person crew, since I don't have the additional tracking stations going. I can control the booster from the ship when I undock it to set it up for its new orbit around the Mun
L87[05:58:31] <darsie> If you have to burn behind the Mun, without radio link, you can set your attitude before LOS and at the burn you only have full/no thrust, no fine control. You could set teh thrust limiter in the engine RMB menu for better control. When you regain signal, you can fine adjust you trajectory.
L88[06:00:23] <JVFoxy> I know... trouble is, sometimes my burn is out of radio link from KSP for the first injection. I've noticed the burn heading marker to head out to the Mun shifts slowly while still in orbit in LKO
L89[06:01:23] <JVFoxy> I suspect it might be something to do with how the node is referenced on the orbit, either to the stars or the solar system's sun
L90[06:02:12] <darsie> Yeah. I didn't see that happening on Mun.
L91[06:03:30] <JVFoxy> around mun, probably does something different. Could be because of tidal lock or discrepancy in the coding.
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L93[06:05:11] <JVFoxy> videos of kerbals stuck in just their suit, strapped to a chair for 300 years while on full solar system tour... eh..
L94[06:07:47] <JVFoxy> I know.. the game is what you want to make it..
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L97[06:09:59] <JVFoxy> grr.... network here is getting annoying
L98[06:10:12] <JVFoxy> by 'here' I wanna say at home..?
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L109[08:09:53] <JVFoxy> eh...
L110[08:10:19] <JVFoxy> messing around with a relay sat design. Noticing center of mass on the dish as same point as the attachment node...
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L112[08:11:08] <JVFoxy> so.. either the dish is made of foam and lead weights at the base...
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L115[08:35:58] <Althego> or physicssomething is 1
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L125[09:11:27] <JVFoxy> some reason I like this design, though not so much if I gotta do any tweaking to stuff inside it: https://imgur.com/a/SkW3IlK
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L129[09:43:31] <Mat2ch> it moves! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSoXxyRIY1g
L130[09:48:18] <Althego> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_yet_it_moves
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L138[10:18:31] <Mat2ch> aaaaaand we have liftoff! ;)
L139[10:21:24] <Althego> what
L140[10:23:24] <Mat2ch> the lifted it of the mount stand
L141[10:23:31] <Mat2ch> onto the test stand
L142[10:23:34] <Mat2ch> *they
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L146[10:37:56] <FLHerne> There's a game "And yet it moves"
L147[10:37:59] <FLHerne> It's a lot of fun
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L149[10:38:16] <FLHerne> Platformer, but you can rotate the world
L150[10:38:30] <FLHerne> Or sometimes the world is just rotating itself
L151[10:38:34] <Althego> otherwise known as fez
L152[10:38:57] <FLHerne> If my vague memories are correct, this one came first
L153[10:39:16] <FLHerne> Oh, no, not like that
L154[10:40:06] <FLHerne> It's a 2D world, but you can rotate it (smoothly) so vertical surfaces are horizontal and vice versa
L155[10:40:49] <FLHerne> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGNSV4_BMF4
L156[10:41:20] <Althego> hehe nice. i didnt know about this
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L158[10:41:45] <FLHerne> It gets a lot harder than that in the later levels
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L185[13:57:13] <darsie> hatrix: If I needed more fuel, I might get an asteroid to LKO and mine/make fuel.
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L192[15:07:26] <hatrix> nice idea darsie
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L194[15:13:38] <darsie> I've done it before. Have one at Eve now.
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L210[17:35:33] <Guestksw> I was wondering, do I need a flight controller for the PC version of the game?
L211[17:38:18] <UmbralRaptop> nope
L212[17:38:40] <Guestksw> Thanks.
L213[17:39:05] <UmbralRaptop> I mean, having a HOTAS setup can be fun, especially if you're flying planes built with FAR, but it's in no way necessary
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L219[18:44:29] <Guest01612> wait there are people using this?
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L237[20:46:12] <Guest58894> When I load into the game everything works perfectly until I press start game then the game just doesn't work anymore. what should I do?
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