OCLogs: 2020-02-03.log

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L1[00:06:42] <JVFoxy> sigh.. I keep meaning to work on a mission, but.... distractions, mood isn't quite there like it used to be. :(

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L13[04:08:27] <Deddly> Fluburtur, I know I'm late writing it, but... https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/166447-the-moderation-nation-space-program/&do=findComment&comment=3735717

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L17[04:17:00] <Mat2ch> Ah, a thread from 2017. Such a nice year. I quit my job there. :D

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L19[04:47:18] <Deddly> Heh, nice :)

L20[04:47:45] <Deddly> It's taken me longer to write up that report than it took to actually do the mission, and I'm still not done

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L22[04:52:02] <Mat2ch> You have no idea. I had to use Hyperedit, because the game kept screwing with me :(

L23[04:52:34] <Mat2ch> It doesn't manage my 500 part behemoth very well...

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L34[07:56:01] <Mat2ch> Maybe I should give up on this game. I can't undock the miner...

L35[07:56:07] <Mat2ch> I click undock and nothing happens.

L36[07:56:08] <Mat2ch> Nice.

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L51[10:00:16] <packbart> "I’m kind of shocked at the number of KSP players that embark on epic journeys without doing basic mission planning" - uh, well, every time I think about maybe creating a spreadsheet or using Matlab-Tools, I say to myself "that's getting in too deep"

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L53[10:00:56] <packbart> some rough dV and launch window calculations are ok

L54[10:01:02] <hatrix> I draw on my whiteboard and that's usually enough

L55[10:01:04] <hatrix> some checklists

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L57[10:02:48] <sandbox> where's the fun?

L58[10:03:09] <hatrix> the fun is in the calculations

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L60[10:05:36] <darsie> I calculate by adding dvs.

L61[10:06:09] <darsie> Launch window is by trial and error iteration.

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L63[10:06:35] <darsie> Recently I didn't fine tune the launch date and used a bit more dv instead.

L64[10:06:45] <darsie> like 10 m/s.

L65[10:07:00] <darsie> When I flew my helicopter to Duna.

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L67[10:07:45] <darsie> Earlier I used the rocket equation.

L68[10:08:16] <darsie> With RSS I used http://sdg.aero.upm.es/index.php/online-apps/porkchop-plot for rough departure dates.

L69[10:09:31] <Mat2ch> darsie: I really hope we get a good MP for KSP2.

L70[10:09:52] <Mat2ch> So people who like planning can do the planning, others can do the building and then there are the flyers

L71[10:10:10] <Mat2ch> and everyone can add their part and don't have to care about things they don't like

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L73[10:10:41] <Mat2ch> also my Jool ship hat 8k dV. Which is usually enough, when you don't get thrown out of the system. grrrr

L74[10:13:17] <packbart> I was looking at https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/topic/33568-winmaclinux-ksp-trajectory-optimization-tool-v164-new-vehicle-sizing-tool/ and decided that I'm not ready yet for *that* level of mission planning

L75[10:15:42] <Mat2ch> hrhrhr

L76[10:17:17] <UmbralRaptop> Kerbal Excel Program is a perfectly reasonable way to play

L77[10:17:25] <Althego> no, that is eve

L78[10:29:45] <Flayer> eve is a planet

L79[10:29:54] <Althego> and a game

L80[10:30:11] <Flayer> i played spreadsheets online

L81[10:30:14] <darsie> And a character in a story.

L82[10:30:22] <Flayer> also evening

L83[10:30:41] <hatrix> good afternoon

L84[10:31:01] <darsie> Good afterevening.

L85[10:33:24] <Althego> after evening, tht is night

L86[10:33:42] <packbart> KSC - After Dark

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L88[10:34:20] <Althego> hehe anybody remembers the after dark screensavers?

L89[10:36:34] <packbart> "Flying Toasters" redirects here.

L90[10:36:38] <packbart> I didn't ;)

L91[10:36:40] <Althego> hehe

L92[10:37:00] <packbart> I heard about the Flying Toasters screensaver

L93[10:37:22] <Althego> that was one

L94[10:37:50] <Althego> i likes it better than the modern version in xscreensavers where they have little jet wings. the original had flapping bird wings

L95[10:38:03] <Althego> and the toast color was also settable

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L97[10:45:59] <Althego> ::?:??:?:?::?:?scott didnt talk about the end of spitzer

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L99[10:58:46] <UmbralRaptop> F

L100[10:58:58] <packbart> neither did he talk about the spy satellite stalking dance in the sky

L101[10:59:13] <Althego> what

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L103[11:00:05] <packbart> random article: https://nytimespost.com/russian-satellite-appears-to-be-stalking-us-satellite/

L104[11:00:26] <packbart> russia performed a rendezvous maneuver to keep its "inspection" sat in sight of a US spy sat

L105[11:00:34] <packbart> the US now moved its sat further away

L106[11:00:49] <Althego> hehe

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L108[11:01:03] <UmbralRaptop> yandresat

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L110[11:03:56] <Mat2ch> I'd move my sat in a way that it flies as long over Russia as possible now. You're trolling me, I'm trolling you. ;)

L111[11:04:35] <UmbralRaptop> Well, Russia is the largest country, so…

L112[11:05:29] <darsie> I guess some geosynchronous orbit would do that trick.

L113[11:06:14] <UmbralRaptop> молния!

L114[11:06:27] <darsie> Molnir!

L115[11:06:51] <Althego> molniya?

L116[11:06:59] <UmbralRaptop> molniya

L117[11:07:24] <UmbralRaptop> The "я" is a "ya"

L118[11:08:53] <Althego> mu generation barely missed learning russian

L119[11:08:56] <Althego> *my

L120[11:09:31] <darsie> I don't know much Russian, but some Cyrillic.

L121[11:09:46] <Flayer> i can only curse in russian

L122[11:10:36] <UmbralRaptop> darsie: pretty much same

L123[11:10:52] <Mat2ch> Приве́т!

L124[11:10:54] <darsie> :)

L125[11:10:56] <darsie> privet

L126[11:10:59] <UmbralRaptop> \o

L127[11:11:40] <Mat2ch> как у вас дела́?

L128[11:12:06] <UmbralRaptop> other important words: токама́к, Черенко́в, Чебышёв

L129[11:13:42] <Mat2ch> Well, "important" ;)

L130[11:15:30] * UmbralRaptop should probably look up reactor terms

L131[11:17:52] * darsie can't figure out the last one.

L132[11:18:34] <darsie> Tshebishev?

L133[11:18:52] <Mat2ch> The stochastics guy ;P

L134[11:19:47] <Althego> more like a filter to me

L135[11:20:32] <Althego> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chebyshev_filter

L136[11:20:41] <darsie> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pafnuty_Chebyshev

L137[11:20:53] <Mat2ch> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chebyshev%27s_inequality

L138[11:21:04] <Althego> that is important

L139[11:21:41] <Althego> but filters are more important :)

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L141[11:22:45] <Mat2ch> But many people don't use Chebyshev filters at all.

L142[11:22:49] <packbart> Черенков

L143[11:22:53] <Mat2ch> And most filters today are done in software...

L144[11:23:10] <Althego> since basically everything is a fitler :)

L145[11:23:30] <packbart> hm. copy&paste fail

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L147[11:37:38] <UmbralRaptop> his name has hundreds of different transliterations

L148[11:45:10] <kubi> oh, good old times at the uni

L149[11:45:24] <Althego> hehe

L150[11:46:17] <kubi> nowadays most of the science I do is in KSP :)

L151[11:46:32] <Althego> hehe

L152[11:53:34] <UmbralRaptop> There's always grad school

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L155[11:59:29] <Althego> hehe, returning to airport after takeoff, because there was a bird flying inside the cockpit :)

L156[12:02:51] <packbart> the bird wasn't type-rated for the aircraft?

L157[12:03:13] <Althego> probably a distraction

L158[12:04:46] <packbart> sadly no report on avherald.com, yet ;)

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L160[12:05:05] <Althego> probably old story

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L162[12:05:24] <packbart> ah, I see

L163[12:07:16] <packbart> a search says https://avherald.com/h?article=3f129f0e "Incident: Elal B737 at Tel Aviv on Mar 15th 2007, bird at the controls prevents takeoff"

L164[12:07:56] <Althego> around 2 years old, or even older https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4X_Ke__ir9w

L165[12:08:32] <UmbralRaptop> Another 737 problem? <_<

L166[12:08:45] <packbart> so it happens more often than I thought :)

L167[12:09:27] <Althego> the hitting a deer during takeoff is better

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L169[12:14:10] <sandbox> another Boeing problem

L170[12:40:09] <hatrix> anyone experiencing problems with drag on fairings?

L171[12:40:25] <hatrix> I tend to remove fairings because it creates too much drag and the rocket tips over

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L173[12:41:24] <JVFoxy> oof... fun times trying to relearn OBS.. >.<

L174[12:41:55] <JVFoxy> doing a test run for some KSP stuff... trying to push myself to finally do some recording

L175[12:53:52] <packbart> hatrix: don

L176[12:53:54] <packbart> err

L177[12:54:03] <packbart> hatrix: don't make the fairing the root part

L178[12:54:08] <packbart> it will have unshielded drag

L179[12:54:29] <packbart> otherwise they work fine for me. creating a bit much lift at the top of the rocket, sometimes

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L187[13:33:44] <hatrix> oh packbart

L188[13:33:47] <hatrix> that might be why

L189[13:34:10] <hatrix> It's usually the top of the booster, so I put the fairing as the root part to move the rocket around

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L198[14:10:28] <hatrix> how do you name your crafts? I always end up with like 5 "Duna Orbital Station" around Duna or else

L199[14:11:11] <hatrix> I started doing something like "5P Orbital station + relay" but there must be a better way to describe crafts

L200[14:11:37] <UmbralRaptop> Theme names?

L201[14:11:58] <hatrix> do you have an example?

L202[14:12:33] <UmbralRaptop> eg: Nergal, Ares, etc for Duna missions

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L204[14:12:58] <UmbralRaptop> Or, like, xl

L205[14:13:00] <UmbralRaptop> er

L206[14:13:16] <hatrix> that's a good idea

L207[14:13:20] <packbart> probes have boring names. KerbRelay, DunaRelay, DMOSat A. stations might have fancier names. I built Vertigo Station, Spiro Station and Minmus Hub

L208[14:13:27] <hatrix> I'd need to keep tracks of capabilities of those missions though

L209[14:13:34] <packbart> Spiro had a lot of toroidal tanks

L210[14:16:25] <UmbralRaptop> unfortunately, stock KSP doesn't have any tanks named E2

L211[14:18:20] <UmbralRaptop> er, wait. wrong channel for that sort of joke

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L213[14:19:52] <Althego> btw way, did you know that the huge squids living in the ocean have a toroidal brain with their esophagus going through the center hole?

L214[14:26:18] <UmbralRaptop> odd

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L218[14:35:01] <JVFoxy> Donut brain.. Homer would be jealous

L219[14:35:27] <Althego> eating through donut brain. maybe eating donuts through donut brain

L220[14:43:53] <JVFoxy> around and around we go

L221[14:45:25] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Zd9hURkmXM

L222[14:45:32] <JVFoxy> and with that.. duty calls

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L231[16:10:40] <Mat2ch> Well, the docking port is really stuck.

L232[16:11:03] <Mat2ch> I hate this. I really do. Why do they even have something in the configuration file saying that a docking port is docked?

L233[16:11:24] <Mat2ch> If there's a part attached to a docking port, then it's docked. It's as easy as this.

L234[16:11:32] <Mat2ch> Why save it somewhere?

L235[16:11:45] <Mat2ch> Sometimes I question my fellow coders...

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L256[17:50:05] <Fluburtur> heh

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L267[18:07:35] <Fluburtur> the boat is still going, nice

L268[18:07:38] <Fluburtur> I had pretty good fun doing my part, dropping refuel pods from planes

L269[18:07:39] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/186186471202357249/673998928668262431/6.jpg

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