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L2[00:26:01] <Eddi|zuHause> and spice is just space-oil?
L3[00:28:36] <Althego> hah, concave earth debate. something new at last
L4[00:29:49] <Eddi|zuHause> what's there to debate? your shoes always wear out at the front and the back, that's only possible on a concave earth
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L9[00:33:52] <Althego> but how did they get to fune without the spice?
L10[00:33:55] <Althego> *dune
L11[00:33:57] <Althego> arrakis
L12[00:35:11] <Eddi|zuHause> i don't think that's a useful question
L13[00:35:28] <XXCoder> he who control spice controls empire
L14[00:36:03] <Eddi|zuHause> there must have been ways to travel without it, just those methods are either too inefficient to work on a large scale, or they have been phased out and forgotten
L15[00:36:06] <Althego> i have to find one of the old disks with dune2 on it
L16[00:36:33] <Althego> probably there is a dune wiki already about this
L17[00:36:41] <XXCoder> eddi yeah empire is very old at time of story
L18[00:37:00] <XXCoder> 100% chance it had some form of pre-spice travel
L19[00:37:07] <Eddi|zuHause> like, people used to run factories without computers. but if you take away electricity now, no factory would work anymore
L20[00:37:08] <Althego> not as old as the imperium of man :)
L21[00:37:11] <XXCoder> they had to find the planet first after all
L22[00:38:33] <Eddi|zuHause> and not only factories... also farming would not work anymore
L23[00:38:50] <Althego> hehe, the tractor firmware patches :)
L24[00:39:06] <XXCoder> fuck deere
L25[00:39:14] <Althego> yes that
L26[00:39:40] <Althego> luckily mods are asleep now
L27[00:39:44] <XXCoder> ya
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L29[00:39:59] <Althego> hehe
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L31[00:41:04] <XXCoder> oh well
L32[00:41:14] <Althego> but anyway without computers, say in case of some powerful emp civilization would just disappear
L33[00:41:31] <Althego> but in the dune universe they dont have computers at all
L34[00:41:41] <XXCoder> that was due to ai wars
L35[00:48:30] <Eddi|zuHause> were computers a thing when dune was written?
L36[00:49:18] <Althego> they had to be because it is stated that there are no computers
L37[00:49:34] <Althego> wiki says 65, so there were computers, but only the huge kind
L38[00:49:41] <Eddi|zuHause> i've never actually read dune
L39[00:49:54] <Althego> there is a new film coming up
L40[00:50:35] <XXCoder> eddi dunno but dune history certainly does have computers etc in past
L41[00:50:40] <Eddi|zuHause> how many versions are there? i seem to remember a movie and a 3-part series
L42[00:50:54] <Althego> i cant keep track of them :)
L43[00:50:54] <XXCoder> then after ai wars computers were banned
L44[00:51:01] <XXCoder> many books
L45[00:51:10] <XXCoder> last book I read was that god one
L46[00:51:16] <XXCoder> god emperior I think
L47[00:51:26] <Eddi|zuHause> and possibly another 3 part sequel series?
L48[00:51:28] <Althego> there is story even after that
L49[00:51:31] <Eddi|zuHause> and another movie?
L50[00:52:38] <Eddi|zuHause> there was the dune 2 game, but i have never seen a dune 1 game
L51[00:52:48] <Althego> that is a strange game
L52[00:52:54] <Eddi|zuHause> and there's apparently a boardgame?
L53[00:52:56] <Althego> it is a mix of strategy and adventure
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L55[00:58:23] <TheKosmonaut> The slow blade penetrates the shield.
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L59[03:06:12] <Althego> cant watch a concave earth video because i am still stuck with the vasaviation channel
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L62[03:52:38] <Althego> hehe, airport firefighters: read leader, red 4 is in position
L63[03:52:48] <Althego> pity it wasnt red 5
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L68[05:29:31] <Althego> birdstrike? that is nothing. go for the big game, like hitting a deer during takeoff
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L83[11:04:28] <Flayer> mm
L84[11:04:35] <Flayer> KAS seems a bit too buggy
L85[11:06:50] <Althego> https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=536149763
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L92[12:37:45] <Mat2ch> I really hope KSP makes autosaves... I screwed up and my Jool mission ship got kicked out of the system, because I was to cheap to park it in a safe orbit...
L93[12:38:43] <Althego> it does
L94[12:38:46] <Althego> with autmatic backupos
L95[12:45:57] <Mat2ch> but not enough. I need the save game from friday...
L96[12:46:13] <Althego> hehe
L97[12:46:39] <Mat2ch> looks like I really have to work further on the orbit.
L98[12:47:01] <Mat2ch> Since I first should go to Jool and now shall go to Gilly and my orbit is kinda low already...
L99[12:47:46] <Mat2ch> lucky me brought an ISRU. Hopefully I can mine Gilly at all.
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L101[12:49:32] <Althego> hehe, in another video there is a red 5 (obviously a fire truck), but the guy didnt say, red 5 standing by
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L105[13:36:01] <Althego> hehe action lab fire umbrella
L106[13:41:37] <Mat2ch> So, let's see if I can save this mission somehow.
L107[13:42:31] <Althego> blunderbirds? :)
L108[13:43:34] <darsie> Gilly is the best mining rock.
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L113[13:56:05] <Mat2ch> Well, I need something to get my periapsis up. And I don't mean 5k dV
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L115[13:58:11] <Althego> solar radiation pressure?
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L118[14:15:40] <packbart> "a nuclear saltwater rocket, providing unreal TWR and Isp at the cost of the entire ecosystem of any world it is used on" - luckily, there are only biomes in KSP, no ecosystems :) ( https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/topic/191354-b9-hx-reconfig-10-feb-1-2020/ )
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L120[14:16:07] <Althego> hehe
L121[14:16:35] <Althego> owned by an enctyption cipher :)
L122[14:18:08] <UmbralRaptor> Hm, Kerbin actually has plants between grass and kerbals now
L123[14:18:21] <Althego> there is grass
L124[14:18:23] <Althego> trees
L125[14:18:27] <Althego> and pine trees
L126[14:18:40] <Althego> that is at least 3 kinds of plants
L127[14:19:09] <Althego> or rather you can probably count the basig green surface as a separate type of grass
L128[14:19:13] <Althego> so 4
L129[14:20:09] <UmbralRaptor> Also cactus?
L130[14:20:32] <Althego> oh yes i forgot about that
L131[14:20:47] <Althego> nothing on the ocean floor yet
L132[14:20:54] <Althego> maybe late
L133[14:20:54] <Althego> r
L134[14:21:14] <packbart> they're all radiation-hardened :)
L135[14:21:45] <Althego> also invulnerable to mechanical damage
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L142[15:49:22] <Mat2ch> grml. No, this mission will get saved by hyperedit.
L143[15:50:11] <Mat2ch> I would have sent a rescue mission. But for an Eve orbit I was missing 20 m/s dV. This game is trolling me in so many ways right now
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