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L6[02:09:03] <transit> Bwoop
L7[02:09:33] <Althego> mmmbop
L8[02:09:41] <Althego> and mmmpol :)
L9[02:11:22] <transit> ?
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L35[08:39:38] <Flayer> damn, my return vessel toppled over
L36[08:40:00] <Flayer> i went too skimpy on the landing legs
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L38[08:43:22] <darsie> At least you have legs. This one took a huge amount of patience/dedication to land: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot55.png
L39[08:43:49] <darsie> Umm, was it this one?
L40[08:44:04] <darsie> no. This had 4 large RWs.
L41[08:45:09] <darsie> This one: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot71.png
L42[08:45:45] <Mat2ch> Time to finish the last parts of the Jool expedition and then finally (after a year or so) launch it!
L43[08:45:45] <darsie> Just had RWs in the capsule. So basically purely propulsive landing without legs.
L44[08:46:12] <darsie> Was a single stage Mun sample return mission.
L45[08:47:32] <darsie> Flayer: BTW, putting a battery on the side of the rocket can angel your rocket up for take off.
L46[08:47:39] <darsie> angle
L47[08:48:10] <darsie> Much lighter than legs, too.
L48[08:49:54] <darsie> Good for low gravity like Minmus, Mun, Duna ...
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L59[10:38:33] <Mat2ch> Wow. My creation is finally done and then KSP decides to get stuck on something
L60[10:38:34] <Mat2ch> meh
L61[10:38:48] <Mat2ch> I hope it saved everything
L62[10:39:08] <Mat2ch> All I wanted was a route to Jool. That was too much
L63[10:39:59] <darsie> I think KSP also autosaves ships.
L64[10:40:20] <darsie> Sometimes I see it in the load list.
L65[10:40:53] <Mat2ch> I had to kill it :/
L66[10:41:39] <darsie> using mods?
L67[10:42:17] <Mat2ch> many
L68[10:42:51] <Mat2ch> This time mechjeb could be at fault
L69[10:48:17] <Mat2ch> Node in 15d, burn time 14 min. ok.
L70[10:48:19] <Mat2ch> :D
L71[10:48:40] <Mat2ch> Wasn't there a mod that could split such nodes in multiple smaller ones?
L72[10:48:48] <Mat2ch> mechjeb doesn't seem to have this option.
L73[10:54:40] <Mat2ch> https://imgur.com/a/ZWD9as8 Jool ship completely assembled
L74[10:54:54] <darsie> Mat2ch: Is that a departure burn?
L75[10:55:11] <Mat2ch> yes
L76[10:55:26] <Mat2ch> 0.26 TWR
L77[10:55:33] <Mat2ch> 2k dV to go
L78[10:59:04] <darsie> Single and split burns can get exactly the same results, so some manual intervention is probably necessary.
L79[11:00:17] <darsie> Although, if you set the maneuver and the system displays the result of a split burn, it could work well. Not sure if a mod could do that.
L80[11:00:58] <darsie> Heck, KSP only displays instantaneous maneuvers.
L81[11:02:58] <darsie> Well, a sequence of instantaneous maneuvers would be a compromise.
L82[11:04:07] <Mat2ch> There was a mod
L83[11:04:18] <Mat2ch> and it should be fairly easy to calculate
L84[11:04:30] <Mat2ch> you know where you are in time and when to leave and how fast you need to go there...
L85[11:04:57] <darsie> But Kerbins location changes all the time.
L86[11:05:11] <darsie> And hte location of the target.
L87[11:16:35] <packbart> Mat2ch: there was a kOS script called "MechVel" that could split a node into multiple burns
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L91[11:49:07] <Mat2ch> darsie: all you need is the last node for a start. Then you split it backwards.
L92[11:49:43] <Mat2ch> The theory behind this is that you need a certain speed at a certain point of time (which is a certain point on your orbit)
L93[11:50:48] <Mat2ch> Say at 30 min into your flight you need to be 1500 m/s fast in relation to your current planet you're orbiting
L94[11:50:57] <Mat2ch> well, it can be a moon as well
L95[11:51:25] <Althego> that's no moon
L96[11:51:50] <Mat2ch> it's not a star either!
L97[11:55:48] <Althego> but it is sure not living :
L98[11:55:49] <Althego> )
L99[12:06:01] <Mat2ch> https://imgur.com/a/c5pbVay Hello Jool!
L100[12:06:08] <Mat2ch> Well, the mission making thing is broken.
L101[12:06:22] <Mat2ch> I'm at Jool. Now I shall dock two vessels near Gilly?!
L102[12:06:24] <Althego> have you tried the science junior thingie?
L103[12:06:50] <Althego> there is a joke there
L104[12:07:02] <Althego> at least there was when i did it years ago
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L106[12:09:36] <Mat2ch> Well, now I will let everything sit in orbit around Jool and do two uncrewed vehicles to Gilly...
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L121[14:36:05] <Flayer> i really want KIS to be merged with the robotics inventory stuff so there's just one inventory system
L122[14:36:10] <Flayer> someone do that for me
L123[14:36:21] <Flayer> or link me to something that has that so i don't have to do anything myself
L124[14:36:26] <Flayer> serve me!
L125[14:40:51] <Althego> hah, found an amazing channel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnSizWZVyD4
L126[14:41:13] <Althego> the nerves and professionalism of the pilot is amazing
L127[14:42:05] <Althego> hehe she was an f18 pilot
L128[14:42:27] <Althego> it makes sense now
L129[14:42:45] <Flayer> yeah, she's probably murdered dozens of people
L130[14:42:49] <Flayer> you have to nerves of steel for that
L131[14:43:46] <ShadowJK> Althego, have you heard that atc of the airplane that lost pressurisation and the pilots started suffering from asphyxia?
L132[14:43:59] <Althego> no
L133[14:45:20] <ShadowJK> hypoxia is the correct term I think
L134[14:45:21] <Althego> anyway one engine exploded, took out one of the windows too, and you cant hear that in her voice
L135[14:45:44] <ShadowJK> You can hear the alarms going on in the background: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IqWal_EmBg
L136[14:46:22] <ShadowJK> And the speech is getting slower and slower as the pilot's brain's oxygen is disappearing
L137[14:46:38] <Althego> yes i can hear that
L138[14:46:47] <Althego> sound like drunk
L139[14:47:46] <ShadowJK> "Unable to control altitude, unable to control airspeed, unable to control heading. Kalitta six six. Other than that, everyting A-OK!"
L140[14:47:56] <ShadowJK> I think that's one of my favourite lines ever
L141[14:47:57] <Althego> hehe yes just heard that
L142[14:51:04] <Flayer> haha yeah
L143[14:51:06] <Flayer> funny shit
L144[14:51:18] <Althego> dont say that word
L145[14:51:25] <Althego> the mods are going to come after you
L146[14:52:32] <ShadowJK> LOL
L147[14:52:42] <Flayer> oh right
L148[14:53:15] <Flayer> that's a word that's allowed by television nowadays though isn't it?
L149[14:53:20] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0wZyG2a52s
L150[14:53:51] <ShadowJK> not all pilots are calm in trouble: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMYGHGNZ47I
L151[14:53:55] * UmbralRaptop fines Flayer 1 credit for violating the verbal morality statue
L152[14:54:21] <Althego> hehehe
L153[14:54:53] <Flayer> ShadowJK: oh that is very discomforting to listen to..
L154[14:55:49] <ShadowJK> "Im rolling im rolling im rolling im rolling oh my god ah- help help"
L155[14:56:04] <Flayer> oh at least you can read in the description that its fine
L156[14:57:51] <FLHerne> ShadowJK: If you want 'discomforting', read the AF447 transcript https://www.popularmechanics.com/flight/a3115/what-really-happened-aboard-air-france-447-6611877/
L157[14:58:15] <ShadowJK> Yeah I've seen
L158[14:58:46] <FLHerne> > But I've had the stick back the whole time!
L159[14:59:06] <FLHerne> Is probably the most terrifying statement I've seen in one of these things
L160[14:59:09] <Althego> back when i used to fly often i usually watched several episodes of air crash investigations the previous day :)
L161[14:59:58] <FLHerne> I mean, the co-pilot literally stalled a commercial aircraft all the way down into the ocean, out of sheer irrational panic
L162[15:00:29] * FLHerne wouldn't want that job at all
L163[15:00:42] <Althego> the copolot or the stick?
L164[15:01:29] <FLHerne> Co-pilot
L165[15:01:59] <FLHerne> The stick didn't help, because the other pilots couldn't /tell/ he was stalling the aircraft
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L167[15:02:28] <Althego> the inanimate carbon rod :)
L168[15:05:41] <FLHerne> ShadowJK: Wow, that really is a weird video
L169[15:07:34] <ShadowJK> lumps of coal :D
L170[15:17:51] <Mat2ch> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWGLdjFWuio
L171[15:18:03] <Mat2ch> The robot is flat enough to fit even under this one :D
L172[15:18:08] <ShadowJK> Considering the high tech world we live in, it's actually kind of surprising how bad communication is with aircraft flying over the oceans
L173[15:18:21] <Mat2ch> at least it looks like it
L174[15:19:12] <Althego> i'm flat, i'm flat, sings the robot
L175[15:19:35] <Althego> goot, that rain must clean some of that soot off
L176[15:19:51] <Althego> they never clean these rockets, they just become uglier with each flight
L177[15:22:43] <Mat2ch> The get "character". ;P
L178[15:23:03] <Althego> why not send them to coal mines first then
L179[15:28:31] <packbart> Rura Penthe
L180[15:29:10] <Althego> wasnt that dilithium
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L217[23:45:30] <TheKosmonaut> Althego: dilithium is just space-coal
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