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L14[03:12:06] <Mat2ch> the other video
posted is private
L15[03:12:19] <Mat2ch> they're getting good
at this. Now land :P
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L29[06:37:13] <darsie> UmbralRaptop: Topic
Δv. V is volume, v is velocity.
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L32[06:44:50] <kubi> it is change in
volume
L33[07:00:52] <hatrix> q̇ is velocity
L34[07:01:40] <Althego> feel the lagrangian
power
L35[07:02:10] <hatrix> I was more thinking
about hamiltonian
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L43[10:45:07] <Mat2ch> Tylo lander design
done. In one way nice, in another pretty boring. Now I just have to
mount it to the trawler, add the satellites and I can start my
mission to Jool
L44[10:46:00] <Flayer> manned or unmanned
lander?
L45[10:48:25] <Mat2ch> manned
L46[10:48:33] <Mat2ch> single stage down
and up.
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L49[10:53:49] <darsie> repost
L50[10:54:46] <darsie> A relay came with
it.
L51[10:55:18] <darsie> Mat2ch: Why single
stage?
L52[10:55:30] <Flayer> that's some serious
minimalism
L53[10:56:23] <darsie> Only one solar panel
:).
L54[10:57:17] <darsie> Just 5 EC in the
octo2 ...
L55[10:57:43] <darsie> Hmm, maybe the
internal antenna would have been good enough.
L56[10:58:29] <darsie> But then I couldn't
have transmitted science.
L57[11:19:48] <Flayer> sigh
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L59[11:29:15] <Flayer> uuhgg
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L64[11:44:05] <Mat2ch> darsie: because I
can. :D
L65[11:44:24] <darsie> ok :)
L66[11:44:52] <darsie> I went single stage
to the Moon and back ... because I can :).
L67[11:46:53] <darsie> Mun
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L69[11:50:56] <Althego> but that can be
done better than with a huge rocket
L70[11:54:20] <Flayer> i like to make
single stage landers so i can leave them in orbit and re-use
them
L71[11:57:57] <darsie> How are you reusing
empty rockets?
L72[11:58:06] <Flayer> by refueling
them
L73[11:58:21] <darsie> ok :)
L74[11:58:47] <Althego> first you land them
on a drone ship :)
L75[11:59:08] <Althego> or maybe catch them
with a helicopter
L76[12:05:09] <Flayer> hm
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L78[12:13:36] <darsie> I built a
helicopter. I could add a docking port :).
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L80[12:24:29] <Flayer> i can't get
helicopter to fly reliably
L81[12:25:05] <darsie> Mine fly well
vertically.
L82[12:25:16] <Flayer> not even that
L83[12:25:51] <darsie> I can't remember if
I had a helicopter on Duna.
L84[12:27:00] <Althego> soon tm
L85[12:27:10] <Althego> just a bit more
than a year
L86[12:27:26] <Althego> i hope there will
be pictures of it flying made by the rover
L87[12:27:37] <Althego> i mean the one on
mars
L88[12:27:53] <darsie> I'm sure there
will.
L89[12:28:04] <darsie> How about
video?
L90[12:28:21] <darsie> I want to hear it
fly.
L91[12:28:24] <Althego> the rover doesnt
make videos, at best it is a series of images
L92[12:28:50] <Flayer> this is a nice
amount of alcohol
L93[12:29:11] <darsie> You use alcohol as
rocket fuel?
L94[12:29:21] <Flayer> yeah i installed a
mod
L95[12:29:49] <darsie> Ethanol or
furfuryl?
L96[12:30:25] <Flayer> Furfuryl.
L97[12:30:30] <Althego> what is that
L98[12:30:44] <darsie> An alcohol
hypergolic with fuming nitric acid.
L99[12:31:03] <darsie> Furfuryl alcohol is
the proper name.
L100[12:31:36] <Flayer> Wiki:
"Furfuryl alcohol has been used in rocketry as a fuel which
ignites hypergolically (immediately and energetically in contact)
with white fuming nitric acid or red fuming nitric acid
oxidizer."
L101[12:35:28] <packbart> Mad Jeb -
Furfuryl Road
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L110[13:07:47] <Flayer> oh, they show the
periapsis and apoasis in the little bottom-left box
L111[13:08:17] <Althego> and inclination
too what i always wanted
L112[13:08:24] <Flayer> yeah
L113[13:17:19] <UmbralRaptop> Also
additional elements on another tab
L114[13:17:37] <UmbralRaptop> That box was
the best feature of… 1.7?
L115[13:17:51] <Althego> finally duel dump
is coming
L116[13:17:53] <Althego> fuel
L117[13:18:32] <UmbralRaptop> Duel dump is
where you force jeb and val to get along?
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L123[13:54:28] <Flayer> sometimes i feel
like a 14 year old girl who just had her first period
L124[13:55:08] <Althego> i am afraid many
of us cant understand how that feels
L125[13:57:45] <UmbralRaptop> … Is that
good or bad?
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L131[14:04:47] <Flayer> where do we go
from here?
L132[14:05:06] <Althego> maybe a different
analogy would help
L133[14:07:05] <Flayer> Soms ist akelig
hard en soms ist haost te mooi, soms zit ie in't vrije veld, soms
zit ie in 'n kooi
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L163[18:37:52] *
darsie landed the helicopter on Duna, but the wings are too low.
Break easily if hit the ground too fast.
L165[18:40:14] <darsie> It's possible,
though, to slow down near the ground, stop rotation and land.
L166[18:40:29] *
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L172[20:09:49] <darsie> Either Ike is
cheating, or I calculated the maximum safe orbit within it
wrongly.
L173[20:11:14] <darsie> Ahh, Ikes orbit is
probably above Duna's surface, not Duna's center.
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L178[21:08:20] <UmbralRaptop> The in game
distance shown is from the surface, yes
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L182[21:53:52] <darsie> UmbralRaptop: Not
for SOI in the tracking station info box.
L183[21:54:03] <darsie> UmbralRaptop:
Topic Δv. V is volume, v is velocity.
L185[21:55:06] <darsie> Almost half the
atmosphere.
L186[21:55:08] <darsie> by height
L187[21:56:27] <UmbralRaptop> change in
voltage. contrast with ∇V
L189[22:00:02] <darsie> I might make 50
m/s.
L190[22:00:12] <darsie> hmm, I could make
a speed test.
L191[22:00:36] <darsie> Perhaps fly over
the pole :).
L192[22:04:01] <darsie> Hmm, flying over
the pole may be hard because of the Suns angle.
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L198[22:43:14] <Guest46237> heelo
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L200[22:45:53] <Flayer> hi
L201[22:45:56] <Mod9000> Hello,
Flayer
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