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L7[01:45:08] <Judge_Dedd> Is DDR3 the same as DDR3L?
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L13[03:38:59] <Mat2ch> Judge_Dedd: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDR3_SDRAM#DDR3L_and_DDR3U_extensions
L14[03:40:42] <Judge_Dedd> Thanks Mat2ch. So my device has a DDR3L slot - looks like I should be getting s DDR3L chip?
L15[03:40:54] <Judge_Dedd> If DDR3 takes more voltage...
L16[03:41:29] <Judge_Dedd> Looks like that's what Wikipedia is saying
L17[03:42:38] <Judge_Dedd> So, presumably, anything 1.35 volts is DDR3L, even if it doesn't specify the L in the description.
L18[03:46:18] <nate> Keep in mind the profile/specs/etc of the memory is going to impact it's voltage, but if a module is explictly DDR3L it should include the L. That said, realistically speaking unless you're replacing -all- your memory, you should be trying to match modules as best as you can
L19[03:46:24] <nate> ie; same vendor/model batch
L20[03:46:46] <Judge_Dedd> I am replacing all the memory, I only have a single slot on this machine, unfortunately
L21[03:47:16] <nate> o.O Single channel? Is it a micro tower or something?
L22[03:47:29] <Judge_Dedd> Which is very annoying, because 16GB is more than twice the price of 2x8
L23[03:47:36] <Judge_Dedd> It's a laptop, nate
L24[03:49:49] <nate> Ah, still a bit weird though. That said, you might want to check out the specs on your CPU in the laptop
L25[03:50:14] <nate> Some of the newer Intel's (I think 4th or 5th generation it started on) -only- support the L variant
L26[03:50:42] <nate> so make sure not to get a normal model if so, but as far as more voltage goes, the difference is .15v
L27[03:50:57] <nate> Original DDR3 was 1.5v, DDR3L is 1.35 and DDR3U is 1.25
L28[03:51:04] <nate> so it's not like it's a MASSIVE change or anything
L29[03:51:36] <Mat2ch> A single slot for RAM is not that uncommon in ultraportables
L30[03:51:37] <Judge_Dedd> I'm on 6th gen Intel, so it looks like I'm limited to the L
L31[03:51:59] <Mat2ch> yes, you are
L32[03:52:17] <Mat2ch> the other chips wont run on those low voltages
L33[03:52:32] <Mat2ch> well, maybe they will, but I wouldn't count on it
L34[03:52:47] <nate> Nah
L35[03:53:38] <nate> 6th gen was skylake I think? Skylake's supported either DDR3L or DDR4 usually, but the motherboard socketing obviously matters so in your case you want DDR3L for sure yes
L36[03:54:29] <Judge_Dedd> Thanks!
L37[03:55:06] <Judge_Dedd> 8 GB was ridiculously huge when I bought this. Now even phones have more
L38[03:55:36] <Judge_Dedd> I can't even run KSP reliably unless I do a fresh boot
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L40[04:33:58] <packbart> yeah, 8 GB is not enough to really enjoy a modded KSP. I can force the system to swap out everything else by switching texture settings back and forth once. that also probably leaves a large amount of heap for KSP to play in
L41[04:34:48] <packbart> the laptop doesn't even support more than 8GB. I can't decide on what to buy, though
L42[04:42:16] <Mat2ch> A small desktop with a Ryzen in it! ;)
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L72[12:31:43] <packbart> rodeo wheels wobbled my girders! https://formularfetischisten.de/~packbart/temp/kspre.jpg
L73[12:32:11] <packbart> I like rovers when they're light and fast. Put a few tens of tons on the ruggedized wheels and their suspensions goes bonkers
L74[12:36:15] <kubi> does the hinge follow the sun? :)
L75[12:37:59] <packbart> not yet, anyways. maybe I can slave it to the solar panel angle with the new Lua mod I haven't tried yet
L76[12:39:45] <Althego> i would add a rotational direction perpendicular to the solar panel rotation
L77[12:39:53] <Althego> to maximize sun
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L79[12:45:39] <packbart> there's going to be a Mark II. the Kerbalism experiments use lots of power and run for 90 days per biome. the hydrogen fuel cells only last about one munar night and then I'll have to refuel them from water. there's very little water on the Mun
L80[12:45:49] <packbart> I could send up a tender full of water
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L82[13:00:47] <kubi> I'm playing with kerbalism too
L83[13:01:06] <kubi> not sure though if it calculates with the angle of the solar panels
L84[13:01:21] <kubi> or just day/night
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L86[13:09:41] <packbart> it does some raytracing stuff to test if panels on rails can see the sun
L87[13:12:47] <packbart> ... when you switch desktops because the hitchhiker+cupola was decending nicely under parachutes at some 6m/s - and come back to find just Burwig sitting in the cupola with bits of solar panels scattered about
L88[13:13:04] <packbart> what happened? the tourist agency is not going to like it
L89[13:13:08] <packbart> *reload*
L90[13:13:24] <kubi> I have some issues with my station
L91[13:13:36] <kubi> I have assembled it using docking ports
L92[13:13:52] <kubi> but it seems to be broken here&there
L93[13:14:10] <kubi> but stull rigid, not wobbling
L94[13:14:30] <Althego> you shouldnt have placed a breakpoint :)
L95[13:15:22] <packbart> catastrophic autostrut realignment?
L96[13:15:42] <kubi> can be
L97[13:16:06] <kubi> maybe it would worth a savefile edit to turn off all autostruts
L98[13:16:12] <kubi> then back again
L99[13:16:24] <Althego> spontaneous massive existence failure :)
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L105[14:20:22] <Flayer> i like the deployable science stuff
L106[14:21:09] <Flayer> i wanna get a little science/mining base going on duna
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L112[15:18:44] <hatrix> aah finally, missions for Duna!
L113[15:18:53] <hatrix> after completing a Sentinel launch around the sun
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L164[19:15:59] <Guest14335> hello?
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L166[19:16:32] <Guest14335> ok bye
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L169[19:33:07] <packbart> ok
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