OCLogs: 2020-01-14.log

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L59[11:33:43] <packbart> "Some posts have been removed. ... This includes making comparative references to past political events." - *now* I'm curious how a graphical revamp thread could turn so political

L60[11:33:55] <packbart> on the Internet, everything does

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L64[11:40:29] <kubi> eve ladies and gentlemen

L65[11:47:06] <packbart> Congratulations. Did you tell Jeb it was a one-way trip? ;)

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L71[11:57:51] <kubi> *ning I meant :)

L72[11:58:12] <Althego> still a one way trip, you cant go back to morning :)

L73[11:58:26] <kubi> the morning is always after the evening

L74[11:58:53] <kubi> and this means that light is slower than darkness

L75[11:59:16] <kubi> Q.E.D.

L76[11:59:25] <Althego> was it a veritasium video, the speed of dark

L77[11:59:39] <Althego> no, bdsauce

L78[11:59:42] <Althego> vsauce

L79[12:01:30] <packbart> photons are an illusion created by the absence of darkons

L80[12:01:35] <Althego> hehe

L81[12:01:37] <Althego> darkons

L82[12:01:39] <Althego> i like this

L83[12:01:55] <packbart> there was a joke essay on this once on the Internet. can't find it anymore

L84[12:02:17] <packbart> light bulbs were darkon absorbers

L85[12:02:30] <Althego> hehe

L86[12:05:40] <kubi> and we all know that the absence of something moves slower than the thing (see electrons and holes)

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L90[12:18:11] <Althego> the lovely flat earth litmus test. 3 questions. 1. triangle with sides 1, 1 and 1, what are the internal angles, 2. what is the result of 5/0 3. is 10^-17 positive or negative

L91[12:18:42] <Althego> they cant answwer these

L92[12:21:16] <kubi> well

L93[12:21:22] <kubi> most ppl can't answer these

L94[12:21:57] <Althego> sadly. a failure of the general education

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L96[12:22:16] <kubi> there was a blogger/journalist asking student at the civil engineering dept of the univerity about physics

L97[12:22:48] <kubi> "what happens if I drop a pen on the Moon?"

L98[12:22:56] <Althego> the first should be obvious. the second, yes, there might be an issue with that, the third is funny because they use that number as 10^-17 torr pressure of the space around earth

L99[12:22:59] <kubi> ... stays there?

L100[12:23:02] <Althego> ah yes taht is classic

L101[12:23:17] <Althego> i laughed so much

L102[12:23:35] <kubi> but ffs, these monkeys will plan a house and a bridge!

L103[12:23:59] <kubi> I would not even let them to mix the concrete with their bare hands

L104[12:24:21] <Althego> i thougth that would give you chemical birns

L105[12:24:23] <Althego> burns

L106[12:27:03] <kubi> more importantly it may poison the pigs who should eat them :)

L107[12:27:56] * packbart vaguely remembers that the sum of internal angles in a triangle is 180°

L108[12:28:45] <kubi> the question was what

L109[12:28:47] <packbart> I didn't have to use that knowledge in years. more often back when I was playing with POV-Ray

L110[12:28:48] <kubi> not how much

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L112[12:30:41] <packbart> ah. I couldn't even find the characters on the keyboard

L113[12:33:33] <packbart> (this keyboard is extremely bad. no pipe or angle brackets)

L114[12:33:59] <Althego> soft keyboard?

L115[12:34:48] <packbart> no, it's a weird combination of US physical layout with german key caps. It's one key short

L116[12:34:56] <Althego> hehe

L117[12:35:00] <Althego> true

L118[12:35:02] <packbart> not my laptop. I just use it for IRC and KSP ;)

L119[12:35:13] <Althego> and the german has 3 important characters on one key

L120[12:35:43] <Althego> i would lose í on the hungarian, that is not too important

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L123[12:39:33] <packbart> I want the direct brain interface I was promised years ago

L124[12:39:50] <Althego> they exist

L125[12:40:12] <Althego> you need surgery to implant wires in your brain

L126[12:40:13] <packbart> I've seen some that linked to face muscles

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L128[13:01:47] <Althego> scott

L129[13:06:38] <kubi> or, you just have some servants typing what you want them to type

L130[13:07:05] <kubi> similarly to that there is a big fuzz now about self driving cars

L131[13:07:32] <kubi> Rolls-Royce had that for ages

L132[13:07:44] <Gasher> just hire a personal driver

L133[13:08:00] <kubi> that car went to the carwash, took the grocery, parked, came for you etc

L134[13:08:06] <Althego> remember the vr craze in the 90s? and it is still not ready yet. maybe this is just the first popular phase of self driving cars and it is not going to happen just yet

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L136[13:13:27] <kubi> I was drank in the 90's

L137[13:13:32] <Althego> lol

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L139[13:21:16] * sandbox remembers that VR show with Craig Charles

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L141[13:21:47] <sandbox> almost no trace of it exists

L142[13:23:31] * packbart remembers VRML

L143[13:23:43] <Althego> hehe

L144[13:26:12] <packbart> "Charles presented the virtual reality game show Cyberzone (1993) on BBC2" - funky! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLj-xibrpoM&t=6m27s

L145[13:26:35] <sandbox> yep

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L147[13:29:56] <Althego> lol

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L158[16:09:40] <hatrix> if I want probe control, do I need a path to KSC or is having a pilot with a relay in orbit enough?

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L160[16:23:23] <Mat2ch> you need a direct path to the KSC

L161[16:23:32] <Mat2ch> well, to Kerbin

L162[16:23:34] <Mat2ch> to be precise

L163[16:23:55] <Mat2ch> there are multiple stations placed on Kerbin, so you have coverage all over it

L164[16:24:02] <Mat2ch> but go behind the Mun and you will loose contact

L165[16:24:23] <Mat2ch> So bring your own network

L166[16:24:32] <hatrix> ok, I think I don't have unlocked powerful enough antenas :(

L167[16:25:02] <hatrix> either I need a stronger relay network around Kerbin, or I need powerful antenas on the probe

L168[16:25:14] <Mat2ch> or you bring many antennas ;)

L169[16:25:27] <hatrix> yep, that was my initial problem

L170[16:25:32] <hatrix> vessel in orbit : 2 antenas, fine

L171[16:25:39] <hatrix> lander detachs: 1 antena left, no control

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L175[16:44:08] <packbart> actually, you don't need a path to KSC if you bring enough pilots

L176[16:44:25] <packbart> the "probe control point" thingy in pod and probe core descriptions

L177[16:45:07] <darsie> A communotron 16 is enough for the Mun. On the far side you need a relay to Kerbin, or a pilot on board.

L178[16:46:03] <darsie> you have basic control of your craft without comm, though, like full/no throttle, and the SAS control buttons.

L179[16:49:20] <darsie> You can set your thrust limiter before you lose contact, if necessary.

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L181[17:05:31] <JVFoxy> shame the terrain at the munar poles are so jagged.. would have landed a control or relay station up there for stuff in orbit

L182[17:12:57] <packbart> it's not *that* bad. there are some flat-ish areas

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L184[17:14:09] <packbart> what I did once: Install KAS and send an engineer on a rover with a relay station kit (ground pylon, girder, dish and solar panels)

L185[17:14:32] <packbart> it worked. it wasn't very useful in the end ;)

L186[17:15:20] <packbart> or is that just the KIS part? I can never tell the two apart

L187[17:19:47] <JVFoxy> Packbart: suppose.. though sorta noticed with the way the light plays with things that far towards the poles, makes judging slops kinda hard

L188[17:20:59] <JVFoxy> got a mission lined up but its just an orbital of minmus... was hoping to twitch it but.. name already taken there. :(

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L190[17:44:57] <JVFoxy> oh almost forgot... on friday's 90's at noon on the radio, they did a space theme...

L191[17:45:25] <JVFoxy> was going to say something but was stuck helping out a convention all weekend. :\

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L196[18:10:12] <Eddi|zuHause> who or what is a friday's 90's noon?

L197[18:10:56] <JVFoxy> Eddi|zuHause: local radio station.. well actually a couple of them here do music from the 90's during the noon lunch hour

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