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L21[02:51:03] <Eddi|zuHause> "If timbre falls in a forrest and no one is there to hear it, does it make overtones?"
L22[02:55:11] <Supercheese> Only if when you score it you find pitch leaking out
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L53[09:18:04] <SpaceFan456> So I am mining an asteroid and it does not work at full speed. Drills are on extenders so I don't think it is that, power is always full and in full sunlight
L54[09:18:21] <SpaceFan456> mining works one notch below full speed
L55[09:18:26] <SpaceFan456> ore tanks are not full
L56[09:18:56] <packbart> Radiators active?
L57[09:19:11] <SpaceFan456> yeah I can check what they are at
L58[09:19:27] <packbart> you'd see that in the drill's action menu, too
L59[09:19:39] <packbart> Thermal efficiency
L60[09:19:39] <SpaceFan456> oh it is the radiators... damn
L61[09:22:05] <SpaceFan456> wow 3 small panels cant do a small drill
L62[09:23:27] <packbart> the small drill can't transfer all its core heat, it will always run inefficent, iirc
L63[09:23:58] <packbart> or was that the small ISRU?
L64[09:24:02] <packbart> I think I am mistaken
L65[09:25:15] <SpaceFan456> 3 Radiator Panels, small and a Drill-O-Matic-Junior
L66[09:25:46] <packbart> it's important where you place the panels
L67[09:25:53] <packbart> they must be attached to the same part as the drills
L68[09:26:34] <SpaceFan456> oh i had the drill on robotic extenders
L69[09:26:50] <packbart> one small panel should be enough per drill. but the panels only cool up to the grandparent part
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L71[09:27:21] <packbart> s/the grandparent part/two parts distant/
L72[09:28:03] <SpaceFan456> Thanks for the help. they were 5 parts away
L73[09:28:27] <packbart> you could use the thermal control system, they'll cool parts anywhere in the vessel
L74[09:29:13] <SpaceFan456> That is what I usually do
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L76[09:44:47] <SpaceFan456> Damn should have started with an asteroid around kerbin
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L88[10:25:24] <Guest50442> hello
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L90[10:26:54] <UmbralRaptor> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L91[10:28:06] <Althego> hehe
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L94[10:56:39] <JVfoxy> guess I don't have extended-extended characters, got a few solid blocks on what UmbralRaptor showed
L95[10:57:41] <Althego> normal except for the one tsu
L96[10:59:05] <JVfoxy> then again.. stupid old client (2000s)
L97[11:00:35] <packbart> ugh. changing the forum links seems to have dropped lots of information into the unfound
L98[11:01:06] * packbart follows links in https://outer-planets.fandom.com/wiki/Planet_Packs only to see "Sorry, we could not find that!" everywhere :/
L99[11:01:32] <packbart> (ok, most of those were probably really old and unmaintained)
L100[11:03:05] <JVfoxy> I've the other problem: one site I went to, gives space weather, but also links to web-connected SW radio sites. Site went down it seems. So no more one place for links to other places.
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L102[11:03:38] <JVfoxy> workaround did fine, wayback machine, but means gotta copy old links..
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L105[11:14:29] <packbart> ah, right, maybe the wayback machine knows the old threads
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L109[11:27:56] <Wastl2> Packbart: The threads aren't gone, you should be able to find them by googling the thread title (taken from the old uri), maybe with a "ksp" thrown in.
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L111[11:43:06] <UmbralRaptor> JVfoxy: every character in that emoticon is on the BMP >:|
L112[11:44:18] <Eddi|zuHause> UmbralRaptor: there are loads of fonts that barely get beyond ascii
L113[11:44:30] <JVfoxy> UmbralRaptor BMP?
L114[11:44:55] <UmbralRaptor> Basic Multilingual Plane
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L116[11:45:51] <UmbralRaptor> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plane_(Unicode)
L117[11:46:31] <JVfoxy> ya look'n...
L118[11:46:39] <JVfoxy> just wo of the characters showed up as black boxes
L119[11:46:42] <JVfoxy> *two
L120[11:47:07] <UmbralRaptor> hrm
L121[11:47:18] <Eddi|zuHause> one would hope so, as the others are ASCII (or very nearly) :p
L122[11:47:47] <JVfoxy> s'ok.. like I said, old mIRC client ^^
L123[11:49:33] <Eddi|zuHause> "release: 19.2.1999" are you serious?
L124[11:50:49] <JVfoxy> lol
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L126[11:51:58] <JVfoxy> I saved a bunch of stuff from one of my old drives. I'd been in storage for a lot of years. I finally got around to saying, 'fudge, I should probably pull the stupid thing up again, been gone too long'
L127[11:52:18] <JVfoxy> er.. I had it in storage for a while.. ugh anyways
L128[11:52:58] <Eddi|zuHause> i wouldn't go anywhere near the internet with software that old...
L129[11:53:10] <JVfoxy> its just irc..
L130[11:53:16] <JVfoxy> besides...
L131[11:53:36] <Eddi|zuHause> anyway, iirc mirc got utf-8 support around version 6.16
L132[11:53:50] <JVfoxy> talk'n to a friend about things, the latest version, the guy who made the program pushed really hard for registration and payments.. even forced people who had the past program to pay again if they wanted to continue using it
L133[11:53:53] <Eddi|zuHause> which is still over 15 years ago
L134[11:54:54] <Wastl2> 6.17 from 2006, not quite fifteen years.
L135[11:55:17] <Eddi|zuHause> close enough
L136[11:55:18] <JVfoxy> normally I logged on from website to here, but after so many disconnects and screen wipes, it got a little frustrating
L137[11:55:36] <Eddi|zuHause> there's plenty of actually free IRC programs
L138[11:56:04] <Eddi|zuHause> not all of them horrible to use
L139[11:56:25] <JVfoxy> I would'nt be surprised.. though did try pirch in old days. I never did figure out how to add new networks to the database. :\
L140[11:57:47] <Eddi|zuHause> and if you're into fancy newfangled stuff, i heard something about "matrix" or so, which has an irc bridge
L141[11:59:53] <JVfoxy> if things get to be too much of a pain, I may consider finding something else. Or... I may drop off (though I doubt it, who knows)
L142[12:01:15] <UmbralRaptor> irssi and weechat have nice Unicode if your terminal does. (IIRC OSX and Linux usually do)
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L144[12:03:19] <JVfoxy> its cool but thanks..
L145[12:03:26] <Eddi|zuHause> i remember the times when i upgraded my mIRC to unicode support. for about two years after that, people kept telling me my umlauts were broken
L146[12:03:39] <JVfoxy> sadly, life is sorta dragging me under a bit so.. no mind to really deal with too much.
L147[12:03:48] <Althego> hehe
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L149[12:03:58] <Althego> i remember the issues, when not everything supported unicode
L150[12:04:20] <UmbralRaptor> Hilariously, you can run irssi in WSL
L151[12:04:50] * UmbralRaptor remembers back when my user string had irssi running on NT 5.1
L152[12:05:40] <Eddi|zuHause> was irssi the one where the windows version wasn't actually free?
L153[12:06:20] <Wastl2> That's XChat.
L154[12:06:34] <Eddi|zuHause> ah
L155[12:06:50] <packbart> I remember people complaining that their terminal locked up when disturbed by unicode characters
L156[12:07:02] <Wastl2> Irssi is a free (gpl) console client.
L157[12:07:14] <UmbralRaptor> ^
L158[12:07:22] <packbart> Hexchat is a free Windows XChat clone
L159[12:07:24] <Althego> hexchat
L160[12:07:42] <Eddi|zuHause> i've heard all those names before, never tried them
L161[12:08:00] <Eddi|zuHause> i've only ever used two clients... mirc on windows and konversation on linux
L162[12:08:01] * UmbralRaptor misses ChatZilla
L163[12:08:34] <Althego> yes i miss chatzilla too
L164[12:09:15] <Althego> why is it that most clients cant do what it could do out of the box. like reclaiming nicks
L165[12:09:32] <Althego> ok, you can always come up with a script
L166[12:09:36] <Wastl2> Reclaiming nicks is not an irc feature.
L167[12:09:40] <Althego> but why should i write a script for a basic function
L168[12:09:47] <Althego> it is a client feature
L169[12:09:51] <Althego> and they could do it
L170[12:09:53] <Althego> but dont
L171[12:10:01] <Althego> yet most of them have secondary nicks
L172[12:10:17] <Althego> so they just have to check whether primary is available and reclaim it. but no, that would be too much
L173[12:10:25] <Eddi|zuHause> pretty much all clients let you run commands on connect
L174[12:10:34] <packbart> it's not a feature I really need, tbh
L175[12:11:10] <packbart> I did use keepnick.pl with irssi, once
L176[12:11:23] <packbart> as with KSP, there's a mod for that
L177[12:11:34] <packbart> shouldhavebeenstock ;)
L178[12:14:56] <darsie> I grabbed god with keepnick or so once.
L179[12:15:00] <darsie> on freenode
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L182[12:17:46] * flayer slaps darsie
L183[12:18:08] <darsie> How much dv did I gain?
L184[12:18:26] <flayer> half a meter per second
L185[12:18:34] <darsie> Well, that's something.
L186[12:22:48] <UmbralRaptor> Given typical trout velocities, that's a fairly big fish
L187[12:23:06] <darsie> I'm relatively lightweight.
L188[12:23:12] <darsie> 76 kg at 191 cm.
L189[12:24:08] <JVfoxy> lol
L190[12:24:50] <JVfoxy> here I'm thinking transferance of energy, and how much got absorbed
L191[12:25:37] <darsie> anyone thinking of orbits in terms of energy?
L192[12:26:15] <JVfoxy> atoms?
L193[12:26:30] <JVfoxy> space craft? ya, in a way
L194[12:27:11] <darsie> Like, MJ?
L195[12:27:29] <darsie> Or fractions of C3?
L196[12:27:59] <UmbralRaptor> Eh, somewhat. Often indirectly like SMA though
L197[12:29:36] <darsie> I wish I could calculate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interplanetary_Transport_Network trajectories. Even with just a tool that works.
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L201[12:45:22] <UmbralRaptor> https://twitter.com/LokiVolcano/status/1138440013081972736
L202[12:45:23] <kmath> <LokiVolcano> The @EuropaClipper meeting is being held this week and we had a little ceremony where @RPappalardo changed the Work… https://t.co/2FFY571GuQ
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L205[12:51:58] <packbart> I thought of orbits in terms of energy when I looked up thr mysterious Oberth effect. v^2 makes all the difference
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L208[12:55:15] <packbart> with manoeuver nodes, I rather think in terms of velocity vectors
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L210[12:55:43] <JVfoxy> also gotta take into account your reference point
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L219[13:55:28] <packbart> humm
L220[13:56:25] <packbart> 2500m/s is barely enough for my Mun Science Lander to depart the station, land and then launch and rendezvoud again
L221[13:57:10] <packbart> I waste lots of fuel on low throttle landings, probably
L222[13:58:51] <packbart> even while leaving 200kg of ground science behind
L223[13:59:49] <flayer> i have about 2500 as well, it's moderately adequate for polar landings for me
L224[13:59:56] <Althego> bob returned from minmus!
L225[14:00:00] <Althego> with 3000 science
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L227[14:01:20] <packbart> yeah, I had to change inclination by 5° at just 15km. better launch to higher orbit next time, then get back down to meet the station
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L231[14:15:25] <Althego> haha, i got a rapier contract. that is a 1000 science node
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L237[14:44:31] <Black_Eagle> is there a handy way to quit?
L238[14:44:43] <Black_Eagle> one that does not involve a billion menus?
L239[14:45:00] <Althego> alt-f4?
L240[14:45:04] <Black_Eagle> haha
L241[14:45:12] <Black_Eagle> but sure, i guess it works
L242[14:47:43] <Black_Eagle> i think skyrim quits if you write qqq into the console
L243[14:50:06] <Althego> now if it quit on :q :)
L244[14:56:55] <Althego> hehe the internet outrage on navi price
L245[14:56:58] <Althego> i am just sad
L246[14:57:09] <Althego> amd had such a golden opportunity to conquer all
L247[15:01:30] <sandbox> hey, listen!
L248[15:02:57] <Althego> not that havi
L249[15:03:11] <Althego> but probably equally annying
L250[15:03:27] <umaxtu> it didn't seem any crazier than Nvidia's or am I misremembering?
L251[15:03:55] <Althego> that is just it, it is on par, and with the same price. that is not going to suck in customers
L252[15:04:27] <umaxtu> people shouldn't be raging about it either
L253[15:04:28] <Althego> maybe next year
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L260[15:33:41] <ChadderVox> Hey-Oh
L261[15:33:53] <Althego> y
L262[15:34:23] <ChadderVox> anyone down to do some MP?
L263[15:34:52] <packbart> nah, I'm off the Monoprop. really bad habit
L264[15:35:03] <Althego> lol
L265[15:35:47] <Althego> i should be working on the Media Proxy but i got sidetracked by internal issues in the test environment
L266[15:36:01] <Althego> and i should be asleep for an hour by now
L267[15:36:19] * packbart redesigns the Mun lander to find a better place for the scanning arm
L268[15:36:44] <ChadderVox> Luna?
L269[15:37:04] <packbart> I should return some experiments so I can finally get the rover wheels
L270[15:37:33] <packbart> ChadderVox: I never tried it. does this stuff really work?
L271[15:37:59] <packbart> Multiplayer KSP sounds tricky
L272[15:39:05] <ChadderVox> There are many Kraken, the coding gets better and better the more it's worked on.
L273[15:39:22] <ChadderVox> but still doesn't beat being able to team explore!
L274[15:43:11] <ChadderVox> it works well enough to think that maybe it could be stock on day
L275[15:45:19] <packbart> I'll try it one day but not today, sorry ;) I'll tinker a bit with Mun science, then head to bed
L276[15:46:02] <ChadderVox> no worries!
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L323[19:20:20] <Webchat363> Hey
L324[19:20:26] <Webchat363> How are ya
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L326[19:20:36] <Webchat363> oh
L327[19:20:38] <kbuck> hi
L328[19:20:43] <Webchat363> It's me
L329[19:20:50] <Webchat363> The Wandering Cosmonaut
L330[19:20:52] <kbuck> mario?
L331[19:20:53] <kbuck> oh
L332[19:21:01] <Webchat363> The new guy
L333[19:21:05] <Webchat363> Ahoy
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L335[19:21:24] <Webchat363> Damn
L336[19:21:29] <Webchat363> Let me just reenter
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L339[19:22:44] <TheWanderingCosmonaut> Ahoy Hoy
L340[19:22:50] <TheWanderingCosmonaut> Tis I
L341[19:23:14] <kbuck> you can use /nick <new name here> (without the <>) to change your name on IRC without needing to reconnect :)
L342[19:24:36] <TheWanderingCosmonaut> Ah
L343[19:24:37] <TheWanderingCosmonaut> K
L344[19:24:43] <TheWanderingCosmonaut> I'm kinda new to the KSP forum
L345[19:24:54] <Neal> assuming the nickname isn't registered to someone who has nickname protection on
L346[19:25:06] <Neal> then it will force you off of it
L347[19:25:28] <Neal> btw IRC predates ksp by a long, long time. it was the predominant way of chatting in the 2000s
L348[19:25:45] <TheWanderingCosmonaut> Da
L349[19:25:47] <TheWanderingCosmonaut> I know
L350[19:25:52] <TheWanderingCosmonaut> I'm glad you guys still use it
L351[19:26:02] <TheWanderingCosmonaut> Every other forum is ditching traditional chat rooms one by one
L352[19:26:12] <TheWanderingCosmonaut> Discord this, discord that
L353[19:26:18] <TheWanderingCosmonaut> Chat rooms are a dying breed
L354[19:26:25] <Neal> they're even ditching traditional forums which is bad imo
L355[19:26:38] <TheWanderingCosmonaut> Thats what the guys on the Daria forum said
L356[19:26:46] <TheWanderingCosmonaut> And the 3DMM forum
L357[19:26:53] <TheWanderingCosmonaut> And the Spongebob forum
L358[19:27:00] <TheWanderingCosmonaut> They're pulling through
L359[19:27:08] <lordcirth> Hopefully IRCv3 will help
L360[19:27:15] <TheWanderingCosmonaut> I'm not giving up
L361[19:27:24] <TheWanderingCosmonaut> Hell, I'm rebuilding a fandom from the ground up
L362[19:27:30] <TheWanderingCosmonaut> The forum shall be the base
L363[19:27:38] <TheWanderingCosmonaut> It shall be grand
L364[19:27:52] <Neal> I blame the fortnite generation
L365[19:28:29] <TheWanderingCosmonaut> Buddy, I'm 15
L366[19:28:41] <TheWanderingCosmonaut> Not all of us are that daft
L367[19:28:53] <TheWanderingCosmonaut> Only ever played Fortnite once, boring
L368[19:29:44] <TheWanderingCosmonaut> Oi
L369[19:29:49] <TheWanderingCosmonaut> You two blokes still here?
L370[19:30:36] <lordcirth> TheWanderingCosmonaut, since two minutes ago? Yes.
L371[19:30:45] <TheWanderingCosmonaut> Thanks
L372[19:31:12] <TheWanderingCosmonaut> Either of you have any advice for building a community
L373[19:31:21] <Neal> I think I'm going to set up an iot thermometer in my car
L374[19:31:31] <Neal> it got so hot it broke my glass thermometer
L375[19:31:36] <TheWanderingCosmonaut> Jeez
L376[19:31:41] <TheWanderingCosmonaut> Where do yee live?
L377[19:31:43] <TheWanderingCosmonaut> Tejas?
L378[19:32:01] <Neal> california
L379[19:32:27] <Neal> it was in the high 70s fahrenheit last week and then it suddenly jumped to 105 today
L380[19:32:37] <TheWanderingCosmonaut> .....imperial savage
L381[19:32:54] <TheWanderingCosmonaut> What is this Fahrenheit you speak of
L382[19:33:22] <TheWanderingCosmonaut> We only obey Lord Kelvin
L383[19:33:25] <TheWanderingCosmonaut> ;)
L384[19:33:48] <TheWanderingCosmonaut> Anyway, Neal, Lordcirth, either of you want to join my up and coming forum
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L386[19:33:54] <Neal> hmm max operating temp of the arduino is 85c... I hope my car doesn't get that hot
L387[19:33:56] <TheWanderingCosmonaut> I need all the help I can get
L388[19:34:02] <Neal> I'm good thanks though
L389[19:34:12] <TheWanderingCosmonaut> Hey, have you tried painting it white
L390[19:35:04] <TheWanderingCosmonaut> Works like a charm
L391[19:35:11] <TheWanderingCosmonaut> Oi, Lordcirth
L392[19:35:21] <TheWanderingCosmonaut> You want to join my up and coming forum
L393[19:36:32] <TheWanderingCosmonaut> hmm
L394[19:36:35] <TheWanderingCosmonaut> Let me rephrase it
L395[19:36:44] <TheWanderingCosmonaut> You ever watched Dan Vs?
L396[19:36:47] <TheWanderingCosmonaut> (The Hub)
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L398[19:37:39] <lordcirth> TheWanderingCosmonaut, probably not, and no, I haven't.
L399[19:37:46] <TheWanderingCosmonaut> Ah ,ok
L400[19:37:56] <TheWanderingCosmonaut> Any good fics I should read
L401[19:38:00] <TheWanderingCosmonaut> I love a good fanfic
L402[19:38:13] <lordcirth> https://practicalguidetoevil.wordpress.com/
L403[19:40:11] <TheWanderingCosmonaut> Uh
L404[19:40:15] <TheWanderingCosmonaut> I meant KSP fanfics
L405[19:40:22] <TheWanderingCosmonaut> I go fandom to fandom, binge read fics
L406[19:40:27] <TheWanderingCosmonaut> Learn the culture
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L408[19:41:54] <lordcirth> Ah, then no
L409[19:42:33] <lordcirth> There are comics, though: www.kerbalcomics.com/comics/2012-06-22-episode-ten-stranded-squared.png
L410[19:45:16] <TheWanderingCosmonaut> Eh
L411[19:45:22] <TheWanderingCosmonaut> Comics aren't really my thing
L412[19:45:28] <TheWanderingCosmonaut> Only read two to completion
L413[19:45:44] <TheWanderingCosmonaut> One was "specialty" the other was all I had on a camping trip
L414[19:45:49] <TheWanderingCosmonaut> So not really my thing
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