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L22[05:22:42] <Pigeon> Hi'ya! I have a
small question, is there a way to erase all my messages at once? I
um... got 900
L23[05:51:02] <Althego> irc is not that
kind of chat client
L24[05:51:59] *
packbart drives a stack of Material Bays around the KSC - for
Science!
L25[05:52:02] <Althego> but /clear should
rease the screen
L26[05:52:11] <Althego> *erase
L27[05:52:49] <packbart> Althego: I thought
Pigeon meant the message window in KSP. I don't know how to clear
that, either
L28[05:54:20] <Althego> ah
L29[05:54:22] <Althego> that can be
L30[05:54:38] <Althego> i usually delete
them at once
L31[05:54:51] <Althego> so dont need to
delete that much
L32[05:54:54] <Althego> many
L33[05:55:06] <Rolf> build a button
pressor
L34[05:55:14] <Rolf> leave it running go
oyut for a meal
L35[05:55:22] <Althego> i guess you could
somehow delete it from the persistent.sfs
L36[05:55:25] <Rolf> hopefully not to blank
os computer
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L38[05:59:18] <Pigeon> Ah, I got a bunch
from a bug with the deployed science, got 900 in just a few seconds
of timewarp.
L39[05:59:34] <Pigeon> I just clicked the x
900 times like an adult and got 300 more
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L41[06:01:39] <Pigeon> Whoever deleted all
of curiosity's messages at nasa wasn't paid enough. I think I
destroyed the offending station though, so hopefully that's
that
L42[06:10:38] <Rolf> ow lol
L43[06:11:04] <Rolf> hopefully it dpnt turn
into spam from graveyard
L44[06:23:27] <Althego> hehe
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L46[06:23:41] <Althego> the insight twitter
is not very active lately
L47[06:23:50] <Althego> we dont even know
what happened to the mole
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L52[06:34:58] <Tank2333> so the drilling
basicly failed by now?
L53[06:35:27] <Tank2333> we need people
there... would be a matter of an hour to drill that hole :)
L54[06:35:50] <packbart> they're still not
sure. from what I read, the mole might be moving but doesn't have
enough friction
L55[06:36:05] <packbart> maybe holding down
the support structure with the arm will help
L56[06:36:19] <Tank2333> ok
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L58[06:49:18] <packbart> my, KSC R&D
has so many buildings... and I need to rub the science rover
against each and all of them
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L71[09:28:21] <jUMPSu1t> hey guys!
MunCheese back, under my default Minecraft gamertag (betcha didn't
know I'm a crafter).
L72[09:28:47] <jUMPSu1t> I'll be using this
nick from now on.
L73[09:28:47] <UmbralRaptor> grats?
L74[09:29:11] <jUMPSu1t> In other news,
today's my elementary school graduation.
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L76[09:29:33] <jUMPSu1t> And I'll probably
come home and play KSP afterwards.
L77[09:31:03] <jUMPSu1t> Oh, Eddi|zuHause
is on
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L86[10:07:16] <Althego> Mat2ch: got
it
L87[10:11:16] <Mat2ch> Well, it really
looks like we'll may hear some music before or in episode 100
L88[10:11:45] <Althego> hehe that is months
away
L89[10:12:37] <Mat2ch> 3 1/2 ;)
L90[10:13:26] <packbart> great. the solar
powered rover ran out juice in the VAB's shadow. luckily, I didn't
set the brakes. now waiting for it to slowly roll back into the
sun...
L91[10:13:39] <Althego> push it with a
kerbal
L92[10:13:47] <Althego> or grab it with the
claw
L93[10:14:28] <packbart> nah, just had to
wait a minute or two and the solar panels got back into the
light
L94[10:14:56] <packbart> I should put more
batteries on it, anyway. 200EC isn't going to cut it with so many
wheels
L95[10:15:19] <Althego> if you have many
wheels that is just gone in seconds
L97[10:17:43] <Althego> yes, there was a
human in that
L99[10:17:58] <flayer> nice
L100[10:18:28] <flayer> i just go around
in the same plane i use to fly around kerbin to get that
science
L101[10:18:32] <Althego> i use a single
jet powered tricycle with a scientist on board
L102[10:18:33] <Althego> lot smaller
L103[10:18:35] <flayer> ^
L104[10:18:38] <packbart> Althego:
"compressed spine? this should help"
L105[10:19:51] <packbart> I don't fly
planes. Never got the hang of it
L106[10:24:00] <Althego> you dont need
to
L107[10:24:12] <Althego> but in early game
you get jets sooner than powered wheels
L108[10:24:38] <Althego> so it is easier
to put a jet powered car together and use that for collecting the
microbiomes
L109[10:25:14] <flayer> can't get ALL the
science then though
L110[10:25:20] <packbart> in this new
Science game, I didn't research the aviation tree yet. although I
might eventually, I like some of the Mk3 prts
L111[10:25:44] <Althego> usually plane
tech lags behind other tech for me in career
L112[10:25:48] <Althego> not too
important
L113[10:26:13] <packbart> luckily, I don't
have OCD, so I don't feel the need to get *ALL* the science
;)
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L115[10:26:22] <packbart> I think I'll
land Jeb on the Mµn, next
L116[10:26:28] <Althego> but i do feel
like it
L117[10:26:40] <Althego> i still miss the
seizmometer from the northern sheldf
L118[10:26:50] <Althego> and eva in space
above a few biomes
L119[10:26:59] <Althego> i usually collect
all from minmus
L120[10:27:03] <Althego> mun is in
progreess
L121[10:27:14] <packbart> ah. that
remindes me. I was thinking about applying the cheat/patch that
swaps biome masks of crew report and EVA reports
L122[10:27:26] <Althego> kerbin is alémost
finished, except for the gravioli but that is coming later, still
need few hundred thousand for the building upgrade
L123[10:27:40] <packbart> Valentina spent
ages outside the pod, waiting for Northern Ice Shelf to rotate
under it
L124[10:27:52] <Althego> just go out when
it is coming
L125[10:28:28] <packbart> I had a
suboptimal orbit so I wasn't sure if'd ever get it. about 99°
inclination
L126[10:28:56] <packbart> and just enough
fuel left to deorbit
L127[10:28:59] <kubi> for the microbiomes
use KEI
L128[10:29:06] <Althego> you can make it
in a suborpital hop, maybe from woomerang
L129[10:29:25] <kubi> it is a repetitive
work, so instead one click and ready...
L130[10:29:34] <packbart> I tried that but
ended up in a quite different orbit. Steering north-ish from KSC
was easier somehow
L131[10:30:12] <packbart> kubi: I'd never
look at all the KSC buildings, otherwise. I'll drive around and
pick up all the "landed at" science
L132[10:30:53] <packbart> oh right, I
could take a Kerbal and jump. that would get some "flying
at" science
L133[10:32:33] <Althego> yes that is what
i do for eva
L134[10:33:15] <flayer> i just man up and
have the kerbals get out while flying at 120
L135[10:33:46] <flayer> now that they have
parachutes i might just have them jump out
L136[10:34:38] <Althego> i know now what i
need. in the tracking station sorting of the ships based on
maneuver node remaining time
L137[10:35:32] <Althego> i spend
considerable time planning switching order when there are like 15
flying around (not counting the relays), and of course all nodes
coming up one after the other in a short timespan
L138[10:36:10] <Althego> for parachutes i
need to land them on the mun, minmus and taking them outside the
soi of kerbin
L139[10:36:20] <Althego> you get 3 stars
this way
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L141[10:36:29] <Althego> but that taking
out thing is annoying
L142[10:36:40] <Althego> so need to have
an ultra high delta v craft with nuke
L143[10:37:04] <Althego> probably i wait
until bob comes back from minmus
L144[10:37:16] <Althego> and then take him
and some other out too
L145[10:37:39] <packbart> I use Kerbal
Alarm Clock for that. shows upcoming maneuvers in order and lets me
switch to each vessel in turn
L146[10:37:48] <Althego> yes but that is a
mod
L147[10:38:07] <flayer> sorting the
tracking station seems like a very useful thing
L148[10:38:25] <Althego> and somehow i
just thought it yesterday, not sooner
L149[10:38:32] <flayer> if they do an
overhaul of the tracking station that'd be on my wishlist
L150[10:38:52] <Althego> i remember the
node times is a recent addition too
L151[10:39:00] <flayer>
"recent"
L152[10:39:06] <Althego> after 1.0
L153[10:39:34] <JVFoxy> I've to wait 6
days before a science probe comes back... wonder what I could do in
that time
L154[10:39:48] <Althego> what i do, run
missions in parallel
L155[10:39:50] <JVFoxy> coming in from
minmus.. right now its just stupid slow, having left the
orbit
L156[10:40:07] <Althego> 46 minutes until
bob arrives into minmus soi, relay network is almost set up
L157[10:40:28] <JVFoxy> ... read:
relatively slow.. its leaving minmus pretty quick, but dropping
into kerbin's SOI slow
L158[10:40:34] <Althego> if you have delta
v, just choose a non minimum energy return orbit
L159[10:40:57] <Althego> that is what i
did with the probe that took the mini relays there, but it still
needs 3 days
L160[10:41:44] <Althego> in fact it is in
an escape orbit going towards kerbin
L161[10:41:53] <Althego> but has pretty
good shielding and a tiny return mass
L162[10:41:54] <JVFoxy> lol... burn now
straight at kerbin? maybe but I doubt heatshield could survive the
nearly 4k aero breaking
L163[10:42:14] <JVFoxy> ... oh
wait..
L164[10:42:17] <JVFoxy> no..
L165[10:42:39] <JVFoxy> nearly forgot,
stupid contract came up, wanted me to shift the plane of the
probe's orbit first
L166[10:43:00] <Althego> hehe i almost
never take these
L167[10:43:06] <JVFoxy> turns out, have to
do /that/ down at around 75km kerbin orbit.. its something like
5deg shift
L168[10:43:14] <Althego> either they want
me to change a predetermined transferring craft or a relay
L169[10:43:20] <Althego> i dont want to
change either
L170[10:43:55] <JVFoxy> they wanted me to
phase the orbit by 110 degrees, I was like, nope.. not enough fuel
even
L171[10:44:32] <JVFoxy> shift the plane..
I can do, it was already pretty close to the original..
L172[10:47:13] <Nach0z> oh definitely do
plane shifts early on. like during launch if possible.
L173[10:48:34] <Nach0z> you might be able
to do a Hohmann style maneuver for plane shifts though if you're
bored enough. Shift apo way out so your velocity is single digits,
shift plane at apo, drop apo again on the other side
L174[10:49:45] <Althego> bielliptic
transfer?
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L178[10:58:57] <Nach0z> right, that
thing
L179[10:59:14] <Nach0z> except for plane
shift instead of .... yeah
L180[11:12:19] <JVFoxy> mach0z
unfortunately, the orbit low is same as where I'm passing, but the
peak is shifted over enough, I have to do a slight phase change as
well. Otherwise I'd have slammed thrusters and moved over.
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L187[11:40:13] <Althego> why are there
applicant kerbals for astronaut? who wouldwant to go there to blow
up?
L188[11:46:09] <Mat2ch> Weeeee
L189[11:46:20] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur uploaded
a video!
L190[11:46:27] <Althego> hah!
L191[11:46:48] <Althego> but it is not for
the plane
L192[11:48:27] <Mat2ch> doesn't
matter
L193[11:48:33] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur uploaded
:P
L194[11:51:11] <Althego> 15 minutes until
bob reaches minmus soi
L195[11:51:23] <Althego> i can do 1-2
small contracts until then
L196[11:55:51] <Mat2ch> he needs sharper
chisels :D
L197[12:09:49] <JVFoxy> Flub where?
L198[12:10:18] *
JVFoxy stepped out to get coffee.. ended up spending half hour or
so dealing with clean up
L199[12:10:31] <JVFoxy> not cuz of coffee,
cuz someone left mess in kitchen. >.<
L201[12:23:19] <kmath> YouTube - Creating
the ultimate crap guitar (from various parts)
L202[12:23:45] <Mat2ch> JVFoxy: a mess is
better than a dump...
L203[12:24:14] <JVFoxy> sometimes it seems
borderline here
L204[12:24:51] <JVFoxy> I mean
seriously... -makes arm motions to the backyard, "uuuugh... I
had to tell the one, don't pile up in front of my window, thats an
escape route.."
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L206[12:26:13] <JVFoxy> Fluburtur ever
watch that youtuber who does various things with guitars, including
making usual ones?
L207[12:26:17] <JVFoxy> er.. unusual I
mean
L208[12:28:58] <Althego> bob reached
minmus soi
L210[12:32:03] <kmath> YouTube - Mario on
a NINTENDO guitar!
L211[12:33:07] <Mat2ch> I've seen
that
L212[12:33:42] <JVFoxy> ya but.. ugh. That
poor NES
L213[12:34:07] <JVFoxy> I mean, its cool
and all. But.. guess I'm still sour sister got to keep our only NES
box
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L215[12:36:10] <JVFoxy> Was at a friend's
a while back, he was going through videos on guitars from a few
youtubers. I don't remember who it was, but they were doing some
going back and forth competition thing on ideas.
L216[12:36:45] <JVFoxy> was some various
build ones too.
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candy!
L221[12:46:58] <flayer> and i just drooled
on the carpet
L222[12:47:07] <flayer> i swear i'm not
mentally retarded
L223[12:47:43] <JVFoxy> at least drool
doesn't stain -eyes empty coffee mug-
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L226[13:36:42] <Neal> what's that comic
that shows how much amperage various things can handle? I remember
it shows a crescent wrench in a fusebox
L229[13:41:47] <JVFoxy> Neal: any relation
to the Photonicinduction videos? -points to wrench- Did a video on
putting 5000amps through a wrench, watched it melt
L230[13:42:05] <Neal> I kinda stopped
watching that guy
L231[13:42:11] <Neal> he seems self
destructive
L232[13:42:28] <JVFoxy> lol... he stopped
posting 2 years ago
L233[13:43:07] <Neal> uh oh
L234[13:43:11] <JVFoxy> given what I
read... think he's not posting any more. No, not dead. Was having
relationship issues
L235[13:43:24] <Neal> dave jones:
"UPDATE:
L236[13:43:24] <Neal> The rumors of
PhotonicInduction's death were greatly exaggerated!
L237[13:43:24] <Neal> He's alive and well,
living happily, and hopes to be back doing videos soon."
L238[13:43:45] <JVFoxy> mm.. update from
where and how long ago though?
L239[13:43:55] <Neal> january 2019 from
eevblog
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L241[13:45:17] <JVFoxy> Ah.. photonic had
posted a vid, but think its been set private since or removed. Was
a link to it through some other site
L242[13:45:29] <JVFoxy> explained
something about shift in relationships
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L291[16:36:19] <jUMPSu1t> Hey, uh, just in
case you weren't here yesterday...I launched a suborbital rocket
with just Valentina inside, then had her do an EVA. A few seconds
after she got out, the ship exploded. Any idea what caused
this?
L292[16:37:36] <UmbralRaptor> Did the F3
log say anything?
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L295[16:46:15] <jUMPSu1t> ...wat
L296[16:52:36] <packbart> Please remain
seated until the ride has come to a complete stop.
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L301[16:57:51] <jUMPSu1t> Ok...EVAs
wouldn't exist if that was true, am I right?
L302[16:58:29] <packbart> no, but there
are pressure limits in the atmosphere. did the ship explode or did
Valentina go poof?
L303[16:59:03] <packbart> (well, yes, you
are right. Not sure what that "no" references ;)
L304[17:00:02] <packbart> and pressing F3
should give you a log window with the reason why things
exploded
L305[17:00:35] <jUMPSu1t> The ship went
kaboom
L306[17:00:47] <jUMPSu1t> Ok...I see what
u mean about f3
L307[17:01:03] <jUMPSu1t> Attached bigger
engine to the rocket...let's give it a go
L308[17:01:07] <packbart> hmm. maybe
Valentina collided into something while climbing out of the
airlock. any clipped tanks?
L309[17:02:54] <jUMPSu1t> No.
L310[17:03:20] <jUMPSu1t> Also, I'm up
right now and I'm tumbling. Any advice on getting straigtened out
before entry?
L311[17:04:20] <jUMPSu1t> oh never mind I
toggled attitude control and I'm stable
L312[17:06:57] <jUMPSu1t> When should I
deploy chutes?
L313[17:07:06] <jUMPSu1t> Is there an
optimal reentry angle?
L314[17:07:46] <jUMPSu1t> Sorry...it's my
first time reentering
L315[17:07:52] <packbart> not sure. I
usually target something just about 30km Pe
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L317[17:10:16] <packbart> I'm doing
science and Jeb's still alive *humm*
L318[17:11:16] <jUMPSu1t> Ok...I opened
chute at 500m and Jeb hit the water too hard....oops
L319[17:13:08] <packbart> yeah, you should
probably open it some km up. it then fully opens at 1000m
L320[17:13:17] <packbart> actually, you
can already stage it before reentry
L321[17:13:47] <packbart> it will open
when slow enough and the air pressure reaches a tweakable
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L323[17:19:51] <jUMPSu1t> oh.
L324[17:20:10] <jUMPSu1t> Yeah, but
doesn't it get ripped by aero forces?
L325[17:20:36] <jUMPSu1t> Oh bai...
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L332[18:00:39] <Eddi|zuHause>
<packbart> I'm doing science and Jeb's still alive *humm*
<-- this was a triumph?
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L334[18:07:14] <sandbox> huge
success
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L351[18:53:21] *
packbart ponders installing the "Science Relay" mod - so
Jeb could transmit his reports from the Mun to Bob and Unnamed
Science Kerbal #2 in the lab orbiting Kerbin for
processing
L352[18:55:17] <JVFoxy> ... where's jeb
sitting?
L353[18:55:23] <JVFoxy> oh mun
L354[18:55:41] <packbart> yeah, it allows
transmitting science between CommNet-connected vessels
L355[18:55:43] <JVFoxy> derp.. sorry half
awake, been stupid day today. Wouldn't you want to proccess that
data in the orbit of mun instead of kerbin?
L356[18:56:12] <packbart> why? the lab
doesn't care. It produces more science from data (as far as I
understand it)
L357[18:56:19] <packbart> I'm new to the
science game
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L360[19:00:41] <Lyle> does the ksp stand
for kerbal space program just want to make sure
L361[19:01:21] <JVFoxy> hmm.. not sure
either. I've been playing a while, hadn't really used science lab
thing much. Just read that get more sci if its worked on from same
soi it was collected from.
L362[19:01:50] <packbart> Know Something
Profound
L363[19:01:55] <packbart> Lyle: yes, it
does
L364[19:02:55] <packbart> JVFoxy: ah. hmm.
I'll have to read up on that. I don't really fancy installing
another mod for that, anyway, but it appears to be a Good Idea to
have a science station that could receive and process data via
CommNet
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L366[19:03:53] <JVFoxy> packbart: there
some talk about it on ksp wiki... for the stock game. If you use
mods, I guess depends on the mod itself. Beyond that, I don't
know
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L369[19:06:04] <packbart> anyway, it can
wait. To space!
L370[19:07:18] *
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haven't hailed the probe in years
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L393[22:06:54] <UmbralRaptop> o7
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