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L9[02:21:34] <Draconiator> Can anyone help
out? Trying to figure out what a digital camera cost new, but I
can't find the model. HP Photosmart 210 Digital camera. no idea if
it's because of the age or the rarity...
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L16[03:57:43] <Mat2ch> Draconiator: are you
sure about the name? Photosmart is a printer series, not camera
afaik
L17[04:02:17] <Althego> hehe
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L22[04:45:49] <Mat2ch> well, the image
search reveals, they used Photosmart for cams, too
L23[04:46:43] <Mat2ch> But photosmart 210
seems to be a printer.
L24[04:46:57] <Mat2ch> And yes, it really
looks like HP doesn't make any digital cameras anymore
L26[04:48:56] <Mat2ch> It's good for HP
that there are no curse words allowed here. I have some very
obscene in mind, when I think about their product naming
department.
L27[04:49:16] <Mat2ch> Draconiator: the
ebay link above shows: It's old.
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L30[05:05:57] <sandbox> it was
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L53[08:02:08] <kmath> YouTube - EEVblog
#1200 - BUSTED! - Energizer & Duracell NiMH
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L67[09:10:13] <Althego> lol the m87
supermassive black hole picture resulted in... black hole chan
waifu memes :)
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L69[09:14:09] <UmbralRaptop> It turns our
that the intersection of horny, interested in science, and want to
die is rather large
L70[09:16:23] <Eddi|zuHause> did you really
just question rule 34?
L71[09:17:48] <Althego> shouldnt have been
surprised after bowser
L72[09:17:53] <Althego> or ratehr
bowsette
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L165[18:49:33] <JVFoxy> so... anyone have
fun in game this weekend?
L167[18:53:01] <darsie> Was tight. Had to
pick a lower landing spot for better aerobraking.
L168[18:55:48] <JVFoxy> no chute or just
hidden?
L169[18:56:40] <darsie> no chute. Just
dawn an aerobraking.
L170[18:57:01] <JVFoxy> how'd you manage
to get velocity down low enough with jut Ion?
L171[18:57:03] <darsie> And sunlight and
xenon
L172[18:57:11] <darsie> thrust
retrograde.
L173[18:57:17] <darsie> Was tight. Had to
pick a lower landing spot for better aerobraking.
L174[18:57:28] <darsie> For higher
atmosphere density.
L175[18:57:34] <JVFoxy> huh... and here
didn't think ion had the thrust
L176[18:57:49] <darsie> It doesn't irl.
But KSP gave it 2 kN :).
L177[18:58:05] <JVFoxy> I remember back
when it was 1
L178[18:58:52] <darsie> Because KSP can't
thrust during time warp.
L179[18:58:56] <JVFoxy> irl... ya I know
barely a paper weight's worth... but.. saying that because using
realism or this stock game?
L180[18:59:09] <darsie> So realistic
thrust takes months or years.
L181[18:59:25] <darsie> stock
L182[18:59:59] <JVFoxy> early version of
the game I threw on enough ion engines to land a Mk1 command pod on
the mun...
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L184[19:00:03] <darsie> RO has realistic
thrust. There are attempts to simulate thrust during time
warp.
L185[19:00:46] <darsie> Was meant to be a
flyby mission.
L186[19:00:51] <JVFoxy> could physical
warp but it tends to mess with things depending. :\
L187[19:01:19] <darsie> Yeah, but 3 months
real time instead of 1 year is still a lot :).
L188[19:02:36] <JVFoxy> friend asked me if
I would go on a one way mission to mars, land on the surface. I'd
not mind at least getting to orbit for a while then coming home.
Maybe I'm weird, I wouldn't mind doing a moon landing. Though,
who's to say, a Mars mission would still end up one way at a later
date
L189[19:03:56] <darsie> I'm not sure if
I'd go to Mars.
L190[19:04:52] <darsie> Doesn't have to be
one way.
L191[19:05:04] <darsie> Reusability
requires going back.
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L193[19:05:30] <darsie> I'd be able to
lift 30 kg there :).
L194[19:05:57] <JVFoxy> it be really
helpful if we had the means to produce fuel on the surface or from
mining...
L195[19:06:11] <darsie> That's the
plan.
L196[19:06:22] <darsie> There's water,
CO2, sunlight.
L197[19:06:24] <JVFoxy> having every
single resource from a single point (mainly Earth) does pose a bit
of a major challenge.
L198[19:06:49] <JVFoxy> at least sunlight
is easy enough to get
L199[19:07:23] <darsie> I there isn't a 1+
month dust storm.
L200[19:07:44] <darsie> globally
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L202[19:08:26] <JVFoxy> that case.. wonder
if a wind generator would be of any use. I know pressure is pretty
low, it wouldn't be a lot of power
L203[19:08:47] <darsie> We'd probably have
nuclear reactors.
L204[19:08:51] <JVFoxy> not sure how it
would compare to an RTG if could get one sent over that is big
enough.
L205[19:09:25] <darsie> nuclear fuel has
very high energy density.
L206[19:09:50] <JVFoxy> ya but
radiation... already gotta contend with it in space as it
is..
L207[19:10:01] <darsie> Helicopters can
fly on Mars, so I guess wind generators would work. a bit.
L208[19:10:16] <darsie> You can put them
100 m away. Or bury them.
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L211[19:11:31] <darsie> You can put them
100 m away. Or bury them.
L212[19:12:01] <darsie> OTOH, we might get
away with little power. A few LEDs for lighting and eat our food
stock.
L213[19:12:11] <darsie> but the plants we
grow need light.
L214[19:12:22] <JVFoxy> the PU238 doesn't
put off /that/ much radiation.. light shielding.. but it is low
power
L215[19:12:43] <darsie> And Pu238 is hard
to make.
L216[19:12:56] <darsie> USA got some from
Russia.
L217[19:13:04] <darsie> For space
probes.
L218[19:13:12] <darsie> Now they want to
switch to fission.
L220[19:13:57] <darsie> The Kilopower
reactors will come in 4 sizes able to produce from one to 10
kilowatts of electrical power (1-10 kWe), continuously for 12-15
years.
L221[19:14:49] <JVFoxy> Heh..
Krusty..
L222[19:15:46] <darsie> krusty?
L223[19:16:57] <JVFoxy> on the wiki: full
name is Kilopower Reactor Using Stirling Technology, or
KRUSTY
L224[19:17:11] <darsie> :)
L225[19:17:29] <JVFoxy> like to see fusion
power become a thing..
L226[19:17:55] <darsie> We mightget to
Mars first :).
L227[19:18:27] <darsie> I'd like to see
mind uploading and self replicating machines.
L228[19:18:34] <darsie> and maybe AI
:)
L229[19:19:13] <darsie> And living off
Hawking radiation adn refuelling micro black holes with matter of
dead stars :).
L230[19:20:58] <JVFoxy> was doing some
thinking... someone threw around this picture of a 230km long
spaceship from starwars...
L231[19:21:29] <darsie> That's not a
moon!
L232[19:22:06] <JVFoxy> an ancient race
that has the ability to build and power such giant solar sized
creations... must spend a lot of time in stasis, specially if they
haven't got a way to move around in the local system faster than
speed of light
L233[19:23:25] <JVFoxy> but anyways.. mind
uploading? Ever watched Altered Carbon?
L234[19:24:11] <Ezko> how long until GOT
starts?
L235[19:29:36] <JVFoxy> go to check on
KottabosGaming.. find has a reviwe on instamash from Fallout.. what
the.... c_C
L236[19:30:29] <GeodesicRaptor> back of
the envelope calc: a 4.495e22 kg black hole has an effective
temperature of 2.73 K (ie: the same as the CMB)
L237[19:33:42] <darsie> GeodesicRaptor:
I'd rather use a 1 MW BH.
L238[19:34:07] <GeodesicRaptor> Something
something asteroid mass
L239[19:34:13] <darsie> At higher power it
may be so small that it's infeasible to feed it.
L240[19:34:37] <JVFoxy> lol.. BH's as pets
in space
L241[19:34:50] <darsie> power
source.
L242[19:34:56] <JVFoxy> would you rather
feed a sun or bh... hmm..
L243[19:35:00] <darsie> Turn matter to
pure energy.
L244[19:35:05] <darsie> If you don't get
particles out.
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L246[19:35:20] <darsie> A BH.
L247[19:35:24] <JVFoxy> find it funny...
gravity so strong, light can't escape.. yet some particles
can?
L248[19:35:44] <darsie> It's complicated
and not fully understood.
L250[19:36:09] <kmath> YouTube - Hawking
Radiation
L251[19:36:20] <JVFoxy> I always figured,
black hole so strong, nothing can escape.. it would suck in time
too..
L252[19:38:58] <JVFoxy> and eventually..
universe would just end up as one big black hole... shrug I don't
know.
L253[19:39:27] <GeodesicRaptor> They don't
escape per se
L254[19:39:56] <darsie> JVFoxy: No, space
expands.
L255[19:40:24] <darsie> Most stars get
flung out of galaxies by gravity assists.
L256[19:40:47] <darsie> Or what's left of
the.
L257[19:40:48] <darsie> m
L258[19:42:54] <JVFoxy> it might expand,
though even that we don't fully understand yet. I remember
something where said, the universe expanded faster than light.
yet.. nothing can go faster than light... the 'nothing' itself, the
void.. null... eh..
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L260[19:51:54] <Scolar_Visari> Sons and
daughters of Kerbin: Life always finds away, except after gamma ray
bursts and supernovae.
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L262[19:59:07] <TheClaw> Ahoy o/
L263[19:59:15] <JVFoxy> ... funny you
should say gamma... ended up watching two Hulk movies the last few
days. 0.o
L264[19:59:28] <JVFoxy> sorta tring to get
a little more sorted with the Marvel movie series timeline
L265[20:00:13] <Scolar_Visari> THE END IS
NIGH!
L266[20:00:51] <Scolar_Visari> Though I
think we all know the Avengers are going to take care of problems
this time by teaming up with Goku, collecting the Dragon Balls and
wishing everyone back to life.
L267[20:01:36] <Scolar_Visari> Also:
Unless you include Thor: Ragnarok, the Hulk movie starring Eric
Bana is non-canon. Not to mention completely foregettable.
L268[20:01:46] <Scolar_Visari> So it's
just one Hulk movie.
L269[20:11:39] *
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that one should be able to fit a K-F Drive on the DropShip.
HERESY.
L270[20:15:03] <JVFoxy> I find it
interesting Banon ended up here in BC end of the one movie.. my
foster dad used to build front end loaders and other large
equipment. he talked about when they were filming some hulk thing
out here, they used one of the machines they just built in a
scene.
L271[20:22:29] <JVFoxy> oooor.. maybe he
was just relating that the machines they used were the like they've
made at the shop.. don't know, its been so long now.
L272[20:23:16] <Scolar_Visari> Was this
before or after the Great Information Armageddon?
L273[20:24:30] <JVFoxy> the wah..?
L274[20:27:24] <Scolar_Visari> Wait . . .
Is this the Earth that had a cephalopod invasion in 1939?
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L276[20:28:03] <JVFoxy> multi verse?
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L278[20:29:08] <Scolar_Visari> There's
another Earth on the other side of the Milky Way. Or is it the one
in M87?
L279[20:30:06] <JVFoxy> eh.. considering
some people claim there's another earth opposite of the sun, we
just never see it... but whatever
L280[20:31:28] <Scolar_Visari> There was,
but it was moved out of its orbit by the Great Perturbation of
100,000,000 B.C.E.
L281[20:34:09] <JVFoxy> they also say,
world inside the earth.. everyone's got their own ideas.
L282[20:34:29] <JVFoxy> I'd rather just
focus on dealing with my crushing debt. :\
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