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L10[01:36:48] <JVFoxy> huh... interesting
timing there... going directly from kerbin low orbit to a orbiting
target around the mun.... ksp map goes and does this on me.:
https://imgur.com/a/NP787kj
L11[01:39:10] <JVFoxy> well ok.. closer
view, this time focused on mun... v
L14[01:43:51] <Althego> hehe instant
encoutner
L15[01:45:54] <JVFoxy> its a rendezvous and
space walk contract. figured I'd make for a docking as
well...
L16[01:46:26] <JVFoxy> ya... I might be a
little behidn but eh.. not like I dive into KSP space stuff as
constantly I used to. Seem to mess around more with planes more
than anything
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L19[01:50:57] <JVFoxy> 2.2km out and slowed
down enough so can get in close when sun shows
L20[01:55:25] <JVFoxy> and docked. :)
L22[02:00:42] <JVFoxy> ugh... these rescue
missions generate so many contract reports..
L23[02:01:02] <JVFoxy> clearing away a
bunch of stuff.. each rescue makes 3 reports each..
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L25[02:07:25] <Gasher[work]> rescue mission
for a rescue mission
L26[02:10:16] <JVFoxy> more like.. 'ok
good, you picked them up' then ok good, now to debrief, then..
here's your funds
L27[02:10:19] <JVFoxy> I think...
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L40[03:56:19] <darsie> .tell jvfoxy
<SpeedEvil> darsie: from the potato studies, you can live on
~3kW or so constantly. Double that for more food variety, double it
again for a few percent meat and dairy in the diet
L41[04:01:17] <Gasher[work]> 3kW?
L42[04:03:30] <darsie> Yes. To power LEDs
to grow food.
L43[04:03:54] <darsie> e.g. on Mars.
L44[04:04:01] <Gasher[work]> ah
L46[04:04:38] <darsie> ok
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L57[08:13:37] <Eddi|zuHause> ;wa power
consumption of the world
L58[08:13:39] <kmath> Eddi|zuHause:
world->electricity consumption: 18.47 trillion kW h/yr (kilowatt
hours per year) (2010 estimate)
L59[08:14:11] <Eddi|zuHause> ;wa
(population of the world)*3kW
L60[08:14:13] <kmath> Eddi|zuHause:
world->population×3 kW (kilowatts): 22.7 billion person kW
(person kilowatts) (2017 estimate)
L61[08:14:21] <Eddi|zuHause> ;wa power
consumption of the world in kW
L62[08:14:23] <kmath> Eddi|zuHause: convert
world->electricity consumption to kilowatts: 2.108 billion kW
(kilowatts) (2010 estimate)
L63[08:15:03] <Eddi|zuHause> so, if we told
everyone to only use 1/100th of their current power usage, we can
save the world? :p
L64[08:16:23] <sandbox> it's not worth
saving
L65[08:17:09] <Eddi|zuHause> well, also,
the world uses energy in forms other than power
L66[08:17:25] <Eddi|zuHause> electric power
i mean
L67[08:17:31] <Gasher[work]> food
L68[08:21:08] <Eddi|zuHause> i think the
idea was that everyone uses a local growhouse to produce his
food
L69[08:22:47] <Eddi|zuHause> (but then you
haven't accounted for any construction work, production,
development, mobility, entertainment, ...)
L70[08:23:44] <Althego> we cant save the
worl that way. or we can, but most people would need to die
L71[08:24:06] <Althego> we need power for
food production and distribution
L72[08:24:48] <Eddi|zuHause> well, the
claim was that this was enough power for food production
L73[08:28:08] <Eddi|zuHause> oh, i think i
misread the number. it's not 1/100th the power, it's 10 times the
power
L74[08:33:33] <sandbox> unlimited
power
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L79[09:00:05] <Althego> ^exit
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L83[09:28:19] <packbart> I'm with George
Carlin on that. The planet is fine.
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L94[11:23:44] <Fluburtur> ah better
L95[11:23:52] <Fluburtur> was on light mode
for some reason
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L105[12:44:45] <Althego> i knew it i
shouldnt have updated pmagic. now it doesnt see the raid array. i
usually do my backup to there, and then copy it to an external
drive. now i have to create it on an external drive and copy it
back to the array
L107[12:49:03] <kmath> YouTube - BREAKING
NEWS: Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris on fire, live stream
L108[12:49:53] <Fluburtur> if the rest of
paris could burn that would be nice
L109[12:51:59] <umaxtu> Fluburtur, did you
do it?
L110[12:52:50] <Fluburtur> im not in paris
currently
L111[12:52:57] <Fluburtur> but it isnt
what I would burn down first
L112[12:53:34] <Althego> usually people
want to set fire the politicians
L113[12:54:15] <Fluburtur> yeah thats what
I would do
L114[12:54:29] <Althego> and we cant say
more about that in the channel
L115[12:55:25] <Fluburtur> paris is a big
dump anyways
L116[12:57:12] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: that's
true for almost every bigger city somehow :|
L117[12:57:46] <Fluburtur> idk im in Lyon
and it is nice so far
L118[12:57:53] <Fluburtur> but it isnt as
big
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L121[12:59:16] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur:
stalking Martin? ;P
L122[13:00:02] <Fluburtur> no im just
visiting my cousin
L123[13:00:16] <Mat2ch> Boring!
L124[13:00:35] <Fluburtur> we will be
going into some tunnels we are not supposed to go in
L125[13:00:58] <Althego> famous last
words
L126[13:01:09] <Fluburtur> lmao
L127[13:01:24] <Fluburtur> well he has
been there several time so I should be mostly fine
L128[13:02:33] <Fluburtur> I can't stalk
Martin without some goal
L129[13:02:50] <Fluburtur> so I want to
build a plywood guitar, visit him and get one of his olive oil
bottles
L130[13:03:35] <Althego> bleh olive
oil
L131[13:03:53] <Althego> but you could
maybe see the machine in person
L132[13:03:58] <Fluburtur> yeah
L133[13:04:17] <Fluburtur> my grandma
would probably like some nice olive oil to cook and stuff like
that
L134[13:04:49] <Fluburtur> also I would
make a video of the making of the guitar so it would boost my
channel
L135[13:08:28] <Althego>
boost::my_channel()
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L143[13:16:29] <kmath> YouTube -
Stratolaunch First Flight
L144[13:16:51] <Althego> hyuge
L145[13:17:06] <Althego> looks like a
kerbal was the head designer
L146[13:17:46] <Fluburtur> past a certain
point going kerbal is the best option
L147[13:17:52] <Althego> hehe
L148[13:20:16] <Fluburtur> peoples that
live nearby are probably happy that there will be less
tourist
L149[13:20:32] <Althego> no, there will be
more
L150[13:20:47] <Althego> disaster
tourism
L151[13:20:54] <Fluburtur> so thats a
thing
L152[13:21:06] <Fluburtur> anyways im
happy I dont live in paris
L154[13:25:22] <kmath> YouTube - Franz
Ferdinand This Fire
L155[13:29:03] <Gasher> you know, i was in
paris last autumn and i decided not to go in as there was a huge
line of people and i thought i'd visit it this summer
L157[13:29:46] <kmath> YouTube - Billy
Joel - We Didn't Start the Fire (Official Video)
L159[13:38:15] <kmath> YouTube - BREAKING
NEWS: Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris on fire, live stream
L160[13:38:59] <Mat2ch> SO, the spire is
gone
L161[13:39:08] <Althego> about an hour
ago
L162[13:39:53] <Mat2ch> but looks like
they're getting the fire under control
L163[13:40:02] <Fluburtur> dont worry they
will suck money away from the more pressing social issues to
rebuild that crap
L164[13:40:03] <Mat2ch> I'm late to the
party, sorry ;P
L165[13:40:03] <Althego> after there is
nothing left to burn
L166[13:40:17] <Mat2ch> I still see
flames...
L167[13:40:33] <Mat2ch> The whole roof is
made from old wood...
L168[13:41:22] <Mat2ch> also, why no
firefighting plane? :P
L169[13:41:32] <sandbox> it's alarming the
number of places that have gone up in flames during restoration
work
L170[13:41:33] <Althego> as donald trump
thought?
L171[13:41:39] <Fluburtur> land a canadair
in the water, go ahead
L172[13:41:52] <Fluburtur> I doubt those
puny water hoses will do anything
L173[13:42:37] <sandbox> I'm surprised
nobody has invented a better solution for fighting fires
L174[13:42:40] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: they
will cool down the whole thing and make it wet and make it harder
to burn
L175[13:42:49] <Althego> puny hose
(hulk)
L176[13:43:01] <Mat2ch> sandbox: well,
most of the time that's enough...
L177[13:43:17] <Mat2ch> just some water
(sometimes with foam) on it and that's it
L178[13:43:17] <Althego> you could pour
liquid nitrogen on the fire
L179[13:43:20] <Fluburtur> I would drop
fuel on it so it is over faster but thats just me
L180[13:43:32] <Fluburtur> or drop oxygen
tanks
L181[13:43:34] <sandbox> like some sort of
chemical reaction that sucks all the oxygen out of an area or
something
L182[13:43:36] <Mat2ch> bigger buildings
usually have sprinklers
L183[13:43:42] <Mat2ch> only those old
buildings...
L184[13:43:42] <Althego> that is called
fire
L185[13:43:53] <sandbox> anti-fire
L186[13:43:58] <Althego> so you want to
make an air detonation bomb explode to put out the fire
L187[13:44:02] <Mat2ch> sandbox: they use
explosives to put out burning oil well
L188[13:44:04] <Althego> like the
moab
L189[13:44:09] <sandbox> yeah i know
L190[13:44:10] <Fluburtur> foam dispensers
usually make good fire retardant
L191[13:44:22] <Fluburtur> Althego they
are proably trying to not level the whole area
L192[13:44:49] <Althego> but the fires
would stop :)
L193[13:44:59] <Althego> not
recommended
L194[13:46:18] <Althego> hehe, this is
funny. 50 years ago children in the pioneer movement closed off a
time capsule. they thought we would go on holiday to mars :)
L195[13:46:24] <Althego> would have been
nice
L196[13:46:37] <Althego> maybe if the
americans didnt win the moon race
L197[13:47:07] <Gasher> Fluburtur, well if
ours catch fire i'd agree with dumping gas on it, but not
yours
L198[13:47:14] <Mat2ch> well, then someone
invented Dark Matter and astrophysics got stuck proving something
that's not there :P
L199[13:49:24] <Mat2ch> what makes me
wonder is that there only seems to be two hoses
L200[13:54:15] <Mat2ch> that's really
strange
L201[13:54:33] <Mat2ch> I would've tackled
the fire from several sides with much more water
L202[13:56:23] <Althego> i can already
envision it. notre dame was an inside job
L203[13:58:43] <Althego> lol: scientists
trace heat wave to massive star at the center of solar system
:)
L204[13:58:45] <Fluburtur> they are likely
protecting nearby buildings
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L206[13:59:02] <Gasher> afaik there are no
nearby buildings close
L207[13:59:03] <Fluburtur> the streets are
narrow there, old city and stuff
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L209[13:59:14] <Fluburtur> there are on
one side
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L213[13:59:20] <Gasher> it's on an island
with a square in front
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L217[14:01:54] <Mat2ch> well, I'd believe
Fluburtur here... he literally lives there ;P
L218[14:02:10] <Althego> or rather he
lives the closest there out of all of us
L219[14:02:14] <Fluburtur> dont call me a
parisian
L220[14:02:17] <Mat2ch> I wonder why they
have no drone footage... hm
L221[14:02:19] <Fluburtur> thats not a
nice thing to say
L222[14:02:25] <Mat2ch> :D
L223[14:02:27] <Althego> because the
drones set it on fire
L224[14:02:39] <Mat2ch> And I thought
calling someone "French" was a slur ;)
L225[14:02:51] <Gasher> hm, well one side
has
L226[14:03:21] <sandbox> oh boy
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L238[14:35:19] <JVFoxy> hrrrmm...
shadowzone... stupid video on how long RO takes to load... kind of
why I've avoided mods for most part. c.c;
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inefficient MM patches that look into every part. or maybe it just
appears to be much slower than patches with proper filters
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L251[15:13:39] <JVFoxy> not sure if asked
before... prefer a game that never got updated, or one that was
updated ever several months but it kept breaking most mods each
time?
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L253[15:22:07] <darsie> JVFoxy:
<SpeedEvil> darsie: from the potato studies, you can live on
~3kW or so constantly. Double that for more food variety, double it
again for a few percent meat and dairy in the diet
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L256[15:24:29] <JVFoxy> ya but... over
what period of time?
L257[15:24:47] <darsie> Till you die of
old age.
L258[15:27:45] <JVFoxy> two people... one
partied hard every day, drunk themselves stupid, died age 35... the
other hardly did anything, other than just worked a steady job,
kept stress down, retired, calm, quite, boring life. Died at
90...
L259[15:28:27] <JVFoxy> some would say,
was a third, didn't really do anything, worked. Didn't get far in
life, died by drunk driver... life sucks
L260[15:29:22] *
JVFoxy looks at second cup coffee, sighs. "or maybe I'm not
awake enough, and trying to think too hard. >.<
L261[15:29:26] <Mat2ch> still burnin
L262[15:29:38] *
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L263[15:29:57] <darsie> Mat2ch: What are
you burning?
L264[15:30:02] <darsie> Liquidfuel?
L266[15:30:33] <kmath> YouTube - WATCH
LIVE: A fire has broken out at Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris.
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L268[15:30:57] <Mat2ch> and they really
considered using fire fighting helicopters...
L269[15:30:59] <darsie> wow
L270[15:31:05] <darsie> I was there.
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L273[15:32:02] <JVFoxy> paris... was there
in 86...
L274[15:32:05] <Mat2ch> you really didn't
know?
L275[15:32:10] <darsie> If you ionize
xenon you're oxidizing it. When you recombine it with electrons
you're reducing it.
L276[15:32:13] <darsie> no
L277[15:32:21] <darsie> I just got
up.
L278[15:32:27] <darsie> Eating
breakfast.
L279[15:32:34] <JVFoxy> makes two of us..
if you don't count shower and first coffee
L280[15:33:14] <JVFoxy> Mat2ch any idea
the cause of the fire?
L281[15:33:54] <darsie> Someone call the
fire brigades.
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L283[15:34:57] <JVFoxy> ah cause unknown..
water bombing the building would just reduce it to rubble
L284[15:35:13] <Supercheese> isn't it
already collapsed?
L285[15:35:24] <darsie> Ahh, I see a water
jet.
L286[15:36:03] <darsie> Time to build a
more energy efficient house.
L287[15:36:10] <JVFoxy> spire is down..
ya, but if rest of the building is till up... dropping water on top
could take the rest out
L288[15:36:41] <JVFoxy> maybe even risking
hitting other buildings and damaging them too
L289[15:39:23] <JVFoxy> looking at
pictures.. metal frame work on the building, if it happened during
repairs, maybe someone messed up.. if during off hours, maybe
someone purposefully set it ablaze?
L290[15:40:32] <Mat2ch> with a
firefighting plane you could spray a fine mist of water, but not
with helicopters
L291[15:40:53] <Mat2ch> with a water bomb
they might throw the burning parts over half of the island
L292[15:41:07] <JVFoxy> lol...
L293[15:41:19] <JVFoxy> ok more lol to
spreading fire over the island
L294[15:41:27] <JVFoxy> seriously, rather
not use plane...
L295[15:42:49] <JVFoxy> they parked a
truck in a field... waterbomber flew over, dropped a load. Truck
was pretty much flattened.
L296[15:43:04] <Mat2ch> jep
L297[15:43:17] <Mat2ch> but if you go high
enough it's only a mist that comes down.
L298[15:43:41] <Mat2ch> well, it looks
like the fire is almost out...
L299[15:44:08] <darsie> Looks like it's
glowing orange.
L300[15:44:25] <Mat2ch> well, you should
go a few hours back
L301[15:44:40] <Mat2ch> when the spire
fell
L302[15:45:33] <darsie> Stream doesn't go
that far back.
L304[15:47:35] <JVFoxy> ... notre dame
v2.0?
L305[15:47:46] <JVFoxy> hopefully they can
save something...
L306[15:48:25] <Mat2ch> The walls and the
two towers probably
L307[15:49:06] <Mat2ch> but this could
result in more strict rules for such buildings. Like fire walls
inside the roof and sprinklers and stuff
L308[15:49:38] <JVFoxy> wonder what they
were doing with all that metal framework..
L309[15:49:53] <JVFoxy> if anything.. at
least have sprinklers
L310[15:49:54] <Mat2ch> looks a bit like
the gates of hell opened up right now :D
L311[15:50:03] <Mat2ch> JVFoxy: renovating
the roof
L312[15:50:07] <Mat2ch> and the
spire...
L313[15:50:41] *
JVFoxy checks time differences...
L314[15:50:55] <JVFoxy> roof work
huh?
L315[15:51:20] <JVFoxy> so maybe something
end of the day?
L316[15:51:36] <Mat2ch> the scaffold was
around the spire
L317[15:51:47] <JVFoxy> we've had our
share of roofs getting torched during work over here in the
past..
L318[15:52:03] <Mat2ch> and parts of the
spire are now caught in it. It's fascinating that it didn't
collapse
L319[15:52:42] <Mat2ch> and the problems
are mostly that Notre Dame is huge and the fire deparment can't get
water from the top inside, because the ladders are too
short...
L321[15:53:08] <sandbox> The eponymous
Mackintosh Building, soon became one of the city's iconic
landmarks, and stood for over 100 years until it was severely
damaged by fire in May 2014 and destroyed by a second fire in June
2018 with only the burnt out shell remaining.
L322[15:53:08] <Mat2ch> so they have to
let it burn down in a controlled way
L323[15:54:20] <Mat2ch> that's why you
have standpipes and sprinklers in modern buildings...
L325[15:55:01] <sandbox> The ship has been
damaged by fire twice in recent years, first on 21 May 2007 while
undergoing conservation. She was restored and was reopened to the
public on 25 April 2012. On 19 October 2014 she was damaged in a
smaller fire.
L327[15:57:14] <sandbox> The Private
Chapel in the north-east corner of the State Apartments was being
renovated as part of a long term programme of work within the
castle, and it is believed that one of the spotlights being used in
the work set fire to a curtain by the altar during the
morning.
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L329[15:59:30] <sandbox> that reminds me
of a terrible joke
L330[16:04:46] <Mat2ch> Is it ground
burning?
L331[16:05:28] <JVFoxy> floor is
laval?
L332[16:05:41] <JVFoxy> *lava... stupid
muscle memory..
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L335[16:13:46] <Mat2ch> well, it looks
almost out, for a fire this big
L336[16:15:01] <Mat2ch> fire fighers are
on the roof of on of the towers
L337[16:15:07] <Mat2ch> and taking
pictures it seems
L338[16:15:58] <sandbox> I hope that
injured firefighter is ok
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L340[16:16:33] <darsie> IIRC she was
severely injured, so probably not.
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L342[16:17:13] <JVFoxy> spotlight..
curtain... I'm guessing someone didn't teach them proper lighting
setup?
L343[16:17:58] <darsie> "One fireman
has been "seriously injured," according to the
official."
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L346[16:31:29] <Mat2ch> I guess they're
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L348[16:34:59] <sandbox> unrelated
"Boy, 6, dies in bedside lamp house fire"
L349[16:40:04] <Ezko> anyone have a deltav
map handy?
L350[16:40:16] <Ezko> oh wait
L352[16:40:34] <UmbralRaptor> Uh, does
your client not show the topic?
L353[16:40:36] <Ezko> tried to open a link
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L360[16:45:35] <Eddi|zuHause> maybe if you
tried a client that is from this century?
L361[16:46:40] <UmbralRaptor> I would
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L366[17:13:27] <Ezko> UmbralRaptop: yeah
but with just CHV it doesn't :P
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L376[18:41:47] <Fluburtur> I have some
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L406[22:27:00] <Webchat939> help?
L407[22:27:10] <Webchat939> im having
avionics problems
L408[22:27:31] <Webchat939> The flaps on
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L413[22:35:48] <darsie> Sigh, I forgot to
bring sensors to my big science mission ...
L414[22:35:55] <darsie> And I'm not even
drunk.
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L418[23:24:51] <Eddi|zuHause> imagine that
happened to NASA... "hey, remember our mars water searching
rover? we forgot to put a water detector on it"
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