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L1[00:08:18] <Rolf> lordcirth_: yeah
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L5[00:46:17] <Althego> hehe this spacex launch will not be a return to launch site, because some company has a sensitive payload there, so it will land on the ship just right next to the coast
L6[00:46:29] <Althego> (from scott video)
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L22[02:04:10] <Althego> hehe nonsequitur flaturday night fight. video starts with a flat and globe earth morphing to each other back and forth with text cgi initializing
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L24[02:05:56] <Rolf> lol
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L26[02:06:46] <Althego> hehe a tumbleweed just rolled by
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L37[02:53:22] <Rolf> was it turning into disk and sphere also? ;)
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L39[02:53:59] <Rolf> Althego: just on time lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGu-DYTYzzE turn on captions if youre interested and hard time understanding
L40[02:54:13] <Althego> i watched that :)
L41[02:54:18] <Rolf> nice
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L43[02:55:52] <Rolf> know what'd be interesting?
L44[02:55:57] <Rolf> flat earth sphere
L45[02:56:08] <Rolf> an artifical world made from sphere sections
L46[02:56:10] <Althego> what is that
L47[02:56:27] <Althego> an opened up sphere, like an orange?
L48[02:56:31] <Rolf> world with huge interior volume
L49[02:56:39] <Rolf> so much space
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L51[02:57:10] <Rolf> and since its inside hollow sphere theres no gravoty anywhere inside it (beides like moon and sun pulls)
L52[02:58:48] <Rolf> anyway artifical flat world has certain advanges I would think, like ability to move it
L53[02:58:58] <Rolf> for very long term travel
L54[02:59:11] <Rolf> probably discussed in video lol watching still
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L60[03:07:07] <Rolf> nice. it covered mass issues
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L77[04:14:11] <kubi> hola
L78[04:14:29] <kubi> is there any mod that enables autostruts by default?
L79[04:15:03] <kubi> I just do not want to click all objects and autostrut to root and turn on rigid connections
L80[04:19:06] <Althego> you dont need to :)
L81[04:19:30] <Althego> but back in the day people used to install kerbal joint reinforcement or what it was called
L82[04:19:35] <Althego> it probably did something similar
L83[04:19:40] <Althego> i dont know if it still exists
L84[04:19:53] <kubi> not for 151
L85[04:21:20] <taniwha> https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/180255-14-diamond-grid-trusses-and-containers-010/
L86[04:21:36] <taniwha> Finally, after over two years of non-development :P
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L88[04:27:16] <kubi> hoo
L89[04:27:19] <kubi> there is one
L90[04:27:30] <kubi> https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/Kerbal-Joint-Reinforcement/releases/tag/RELEASE%2F3.3.3.4
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L92[04:38:54] <Althego> taniwha: congratulations
L93[04:39:05] <taniwha> Althego: thanks
L94[04:39:37] <Althego> what is that disco ball? :)
L95[04:39:47] <taniwha> NoLaunchClamp :)
L96[04:40:01] <taniwha> use it with the truss segments to make a stable base
L97[04:40:15] <taniwha> (more importantly, LEVEL regardless of terrain)
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L99[04:42:31] <taniwha> http://taniwha.org/~bill/baselegs.png
L100[04:42:46] <taniwha> snagged from my stream
L101[04:43:04] <taniwha> ah, drat
L102[04:43:07] <taniwha> came up black
L103[04:43:10] <taniwha> hang on
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L105[04:44:17] <taniwha> ok, same link works now
L106[04:44:27] <taniwha> (just had to use xv instead of whatever for mplayer)
L107[04:45:16] <taniwha> (and no, the supports do not need to be attached to the bottom of the parts: the heads pivot just like launch clamps)
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L110[05:28:59] <Althego> the famous hanging labs of minmus :)
L111[05:32:00] <taniwha> :)
L112[05:33:09] <Fluburtur> I should probably start working on making the biplane airworthy
L113[05:35:23] <Althego> first it needs to lift thor's air hammer?
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L115[06:04:16] <Fluburtur> this biplane is at least 20 to 30 years old and was never completed, wew
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L118[06:10:37] <Fluburtur> https://66.media.tumblr.com/a33185150616d93c8220054fdafacc9c/tumblr_pj2qceZHAe1xoyw8po1_540.jpg
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L122[06:24:42] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: what material is it made off?
L123[06:24:56] <Fluburtur> balsa and covering film
L124[06:25:22] <Mat2ch> ah, so already pretty lightweight
L125[06:25:40] <Fluburtur> yeah and it was meant to run on a nitro engine so it can accept some weight
L126[06:25:51] <Fluburtur> wingspan is around one meter
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L146[08:19:11] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: so, you're going petrol or just adding a large accu?
L147[08:33:00] <Fluburtur> the bipe will be electric but I will try to make at least one plane nitro
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L153[09:20:23] <Fluburtur> good news, I have sulfurinc acid
L154[09:30:05] <Mat2ch> and now refine some gold!
L155[09:30:25] <Fluburtur> I dont think I have nitric acid however
L156[09:30:36] <Fluburtur> and using potassium nitrate isnt that great apparently
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L159[09:38:44] <APlayer> Re: Acids. Actual story from school, happened two (I think?) years ago... So we were working in a group of three, doing some tests on water samples from the local river. It involved photometry with chemicals that were already prepared (as in ready made mixes of stuff for specific tests). So two of us spill a few drops of this suspiciously looking liquid (not really, it was clear and could have been water by the looks), and we
L160[09:38:44] <APlayer> ask out third guy to go and get some towels to wipe it up. Meanwhile, I check what that liquid was (50 - 50 mix of concentrated sulfuric and phosphorous acids). Next thing I see, our third guy, instead of getting a towel, wiped it up with his sleeve. I tell him, "You realize this is a mix of concentrated sulfuric and phosphorous acids?" His response was legendary and remains our mantra in chemistry class to this day: "WE'RE
L161[09:38:44] <APlayer> ALL GOING TO DIE!!!"
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L166[09:47:26] <Althego> no the spacex launch moved to monday
L167[09:47:49] <Althego> at least a soyuz launch on the same day too
L168[09:49:08] <Althego> what is this https://twitter.com/boringcompany/status/1069044263944511488
L169[09:49:09] <kmath> <✔boringcompany> Final round of interviews https://t.co/jKvcbCopjR
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L174[10:30:16] <Guest53893> Hi, is this where I can speak to forum staff?
L175[10:30:26] <Guest53893> Sorry if I've come to the wrong place
L176[10:30:37] <Althego> some of them might be here
L177[10:31:15] <Guest53893> Cool
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L183[10:59:24] <APlayer> "Thank you for the info. I will keep in mind that some forum staff may be here" (leaves)
L184[11:00:56] <raptop> o_O
L185[11:01:31] <Althego> hehe
L186[11:02:56] <APlayer> Seriously, I love how people join, do not ask their question (or, better yet, they do ask), but then they leave anyway
L187[11:03:10] <APlayer> I mean, huh, what do they expect?
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L189[11:04:11] <APlayer> Or, what's their reasoning, rather? They solved the issue already themselves? They expect an instant response? Well, those might apply if they ask but leave without waiting for an answer
L190[11:04:39] <APlayer> But why ask if you can find staff here, receive a response, acknowledge with "Cool" and just leave, haha
L191[11:04:39] <Althego> i think they expect an instant response
L192[11:05:00] <Althego> even with 170 people not much is happening
L193[11:05:45] <APlayer> I mean, that's like dialing a number, asking whether a person is here, and then saying "thank you" and hanging up
L194[11:06:19] <APlayer> https://what-if.xkcd.com/55/
L195[11:11:31] <lordcirth_> Anyone know a mod that adds a Hitchhiker-like part in 3.75m?
L196[11:12:34] <APlayer> Near Future Spacecraft or Space Stations Expansion (or whatever Nertea's space station mod was called) might, but you'd have to look at them to make sure
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L198[11:13:08] <lordcirth_> I have NFS installed
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L200[11:13:54] <lordcirth_> SSPX might work, though
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L211[11:59:36] <lordcirth_> So, I installed SSPX, and some parts show up, but the 3.75m habs are supposed to be under Nanolathing and aren't.
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L228[13:25:48] <Draconiator> Weird......I caught this on the live NYC webcam at Earthcam
L229[13:25:51] <Draconiator> https://gyazo.com/d0b1429cc011eaeec1d096ceed80324c
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L233[13:35:15] <Althego> hehe dancing stormtroopers
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L235[13:37:34] * raptop assumes that the 501st was involved?
L236[13:38:59] <JVFoxy> ... 501st... hmmm..
L237[13:39:04] <Althego> probably
L238[13:40:20] <JVFoxy> eh.. -did quick search- friend is in that... thought it was just a local group...
L239[13:40:23] <JVFoxy> its actually globally huh?
L240[13:40:31] <Althego> yes worldwide
L241[13:40:40] <Althego> the good bad guys :)
L242[13:41:32] <Althego> tomorrow that falcon should really launch. several delays already
L243[13:42:00] <Althego> https://twitter.com/therourke/status/1068875942473404422
L244[13:42:00] <kmath> <therourke> I, for one, welcome our owl overlords https://t.co/p5Cw17czDr
L245[13:42:06] <JVFoxy> ... ok warning next time, going from starwars to spacex and saying falcon... might confuse some people.
L246[13:42:14] <Althego> hehe
L247[13:42:34] <JVFoxy> here I thought someone built the millennium and was about to launch it for a moment.
L248[13:44:33] <JVFoxy> Althego so going from cat overlords to owls huh?
L249[13:44:55] <Althego> wait a sec, tomorrow is osiris rex too?
L250[13:44:58] <raptop> That's silly. The overlords would obviously be some sort of corvid.
L251[13:45:03] <Althego> 3 space events in one day
L252[13:45:38] <Althego> in 21 hour and 15 minutes
L253[13:45:49] <Althego> arrives to bennu
L254[13:45:56] <Althego> scott mentioned soemthing that it is this week
L255[13:46:10] <raptop> Also, Bennu is a bird god.
L256[13:46:19] <Althego> boid
L257[13:51:19] <JVFoxy> overlord'ing is over-rated anyways... too much responsibility..
L258[13:51:27] <Althego> hehe
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L260[13:53:36] <JVFoxy> I prefer freedom.. but thats just me
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L284[16:35:13] <egg> eggs are cool xd
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L286[16:35:32] <APlayer> Agreed.
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L290[17:03:33] <UmbralRaptor> o_O
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L301[18:18:04] * darsie optimized his 8x Klaw rocket for deorbiting stuff. It drifts a bit towards south during ascent, although it's totally symmetric on that plane.
L302[18:23:45] <darsie> Any idea why that rocket would drift south? http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot106.png
L303[18:24:35] <UmbralRaptor> wobbles?
L304[18:24:45] <darsie> In the fairing?
L305[18:25:12] <darsie> I have extreme flexing under full thrust once the fairing is gone, but none with it.
L306[18:25:35] <UmbralRaptor> o_O
L307[18:25:37] <lordcirth_> Are you sure the mass is centered? It doesn't look like it
L308[18:25:46] <lordcirth_> stock fairings add autostruts
L309[18:25:48] <darsie> lordcirth_: It's symmetric.
L310[18:25:49] <JVFoxy> with fairing, not so much drag
L311[18:25:57] <JVFoxy> without, all those claws on one side catches...
L312[18:26:24] <darsie> About the east/up plane
L313[18:27:09] <JVFoxy> would it be possible to pair htem up, side by side, facing out? Would half the length of the rocket. Although, not sure if fairing can go wide enough around them
L314[18:27:53] <darsie> JVFoxy: Maybe, but that doesn't explain why it drifts.
L315[18:28:14] <darsie> I wouldn't like the wide fairing, though.
L316[18:29:04] <JVFoxy> drifts because weight isn't centered...
L317[18:29:24] <darsie> How is it not centered? It's symmetric.
L318[18:29:29] <JVFoxy> without shroud, easy to say the claw parts all on one side making quite a bit of drag
L319[18:29:42] <darsie> It drifts with fairing.
L320[18:29:52] <JVFoxy> we still talk'n about screenshot106?
L321[18:29:57] <darsie> yes
L322[18:30:32] <darsie> It drifts towards the KSP banner.
L323[18:31:00] <JVFoxy> VAB is a bit weird when it comes to building
L324[18:31:28] <JVFoxy> when you build.. the direction of the doorway (east) is actually the right side of the build
L325[18:31:36] <darsie> yes
L326[18:31:36] <JVFoxy> back wall of VAB is left side.
L327[18:32:09] <JVFoxy> so when you turn your rocket to be belly or top facing towards door... sometimes it messes with the symmetry system
L328[18:32:23] <darsie> I have a different, very similar version that doesn't drift. Hmm, I could change it step by step till it drifts.
L329[18:32:39] <JVFoxy> having claws all on one 'sector' of rocket, not exactly syemtrical
L330[18:33:27] <darsie> That's the east-west direction. Drift is ok there. I'm talking about drift towards south.
L331[18:34:03] <JVFoxy> some reason KSP does that normally on slow launches
L332[18:34:18] <darsie> It's not slow.
L333[18:34:29] <darsie> 2.48 TWR.
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L335[18:35:02] <darsie> Umm, that's vacuum.
L336[18:35:07] <darsie> still
L337[18:35:19] <darsie> 2.17 TWR in atmo.
L338[18:35:24] <JVFoxy> going to guess because so many parts along the thrust line?
L339[18:35:54] <darsie> I believe KSP simplifies stuff inside a fairing.
L340[18:36:02] <darsie> To one mass point.
L341[18:36:08] <JVFoxy> probably not enough bracing, all them connections, might cause top to sway off to one side
L342[18:36:37] <JVFoxy> doing planes, I find it annoying, even though its perfectly mirrored, plane still wants to bank to side
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L344[18:36:48] <JVFoxy> turns out... slight aerodynamic glitch
L345[18:36:48] <darsie> Cause I get very strong flexing without fairing, but none with it.
L346[18:37:26] <JVFoxy> found out... sometimes when you mirror parts on a central section, it doesn't carry the same 'body lift' to both sides, causes plane to do things
L347[18:37:37] <darsie> I guess I'd have to change my non drifting rocket to find the cause.
L348[18:37:45] <Dawson> Hey, does anyone here have troubles being organized in ksp ? I never know what to name my crafts and it makes it very hard to find what i'm looking for
L349[18:37:56] <JVFoxy> my guess.. its not anything you did, its just game being stupid sometimes
L350[18:38:18] <JVFoxy> Dawson what you got?
L351[18:38:41] <darsie> JVFoxy: Yeah. Maybe the tilt at launch pad setup. But that usually only happens without clamps.
L352[18:39:29] <JVFoxy> darsie you mirrored parts? maybe the game itself isn't mirroring something properly... like with my plane issues
L353[18:39:37] <Dawson> JVFoxy is there any special way that you name your Crafts ?
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L355[18:40:24] <JVFoxy> Dawson I guess I'm a little influenced by NASA and other things? I try to be a bit original..
L356[18:40:27] <darsie> JVFoxy: Not 'mirrored' but 'symmetry'.
L357[18:40:37] <JVFoxy> Its usually a word.. sometimes a version or mk number.
L358[18:40:54] <darsie> Like the solar panels, struts, chutes.
L359[18:40:58] <JVFoxy> darsie maybe even with symmetry.. I haven't tested in VAB
L360[18:41:08] <Dawson> True I guess i'm just not a creative person when it comes to names lol
L361[18:41:31] <Dawson> I just name everything like Duna Lander mk1
L362[18:42:32] <JVFoxy> dawson I did a target/booster vehicle... called it companion... the crewed vehicle was Journey... early version of said crew vehicle was called thumbtack, which was ironic. lacked RCS, but had to still dock to a target. I didn't realize how well the name fitted till later
L363[18:42:59] <JVFoxy> duna lander crew or robotic?
L364[18:43:15] <darsie> Dawson: These are my craft names: https://pastebin.com/hgD9NwKQ
L365[18:43:33] <Dawson> JVFOxy crew
L366[18:43:50] <JVFoxy> if its work in progress, I usually define it by its purpose till I can figure out a better name I suppose
L367[18:44:16] <JVFoxy> I got a plane, carries stuff, and the basestation hub part, I just called it Polar Station 1
L368[18:44:40] <Dawson> That works, i'm just a bit ocd lol
L369[18:44:47] <Dawson> I need everything neat
L370[18:45:02] <darsie> Time to get drunk ...
L371[18:45:10] <Dawson> lol
L372[18:45:15] <JVFoxy> I did a craft that goes to mun/minmus from kerbin, carries a lander. Named it 'Carter', I was sorta thinking a little bit like it was a carrier of sorts
L373[18:45:49] <JVFoxy> though I think mk2 or mk3.... mk1 was a very tiny version, more for testing the idea out
L374[18:46:40] <JVFoxy> if you plan to do more than one mission to duna using that particular ship... could just give it a name then a number meaning which number in series has launched out there.
L375[18:47:51] <Dawson> I'll try that
L376[18:49:44] <JVFoxy> looking through a small archive I started a while back, hadn't really added anything more to sadly for a time.
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L378[18:50:29] <JVFoxy> spaceplane I made back in v1.05, named Hornet SP... looked like a version of the F-18 fighter but with bigger wings, engine pods on wings and rocket booster in tail
L379[18:51:50] <JVFoxy> Mk2 fuse... 4 pas pod and docking... looking at some of hte other pics, I sorta miss my Dynafly now. I should try to see if it still works in latest version
L380[18:52:26] <JVFoxy> maybe bring my dakota back too... for a long while, I kept messing with those two, trying to figure out what would work best, still avoiding the use of rapier
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L382[18:56:53] <darsie> Hmm, the parachutes are not symmetryc. One short side has a different angle than the other.
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L393[19:26:33] <darsie> Heavy fuel tank came down on two chutes at 9 m/s and broke. Contract failed.
L394[19:27:06] <darsie> 4.5 t
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L397[19:42:12] <Eddi|zuHause> usually you need to be below 6m/s
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L401[20:00:57] <darsie> mhm
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L406[20:21:23] <UmbralRaptor> 'tis the season https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A62ek3yzTKg
L407[20:21:23] <kmath> YouTube - Cthulkha -The Carol of the Old Ones/たこルカを動かしてみた 旧支配者のキャロル
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L410[20:40:44] <lordcirth_> lol wut
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L412[20:44:01] <UmbralRaptor> Carol of the Old Ones, as sung by a vocaloid.
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L422[22:30:17] <lordcirth_> UmbralRaptor, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPQii0-A98c
L423[22:30:18] <kmath> YouTube - FF7 One winged angel music remake
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L425[22:34:36] <UmbralRaptor> nice
L426[22:47:40] * UmbralRaptor should probably poke around OCRemix again sometime
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L428[22:54:42] <lordcirth_> The art is awesome too. Sadly they don't seem to have a 1080p version for wallpaper.
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L439[23:36:47] <Rokker> 4 launches within the next 48 hours
L440[23:36:48] <Rokker> hype
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