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L5[00:28:43] <kmath> YouTube - Minecraft
Rocket Mod - Fly to The Moon! “MOD SHOWCASE” GALACTICRAFT
L6[00:29:37] <Deddly> Yogscast playing that
mod is what led me to KSP
L7[00:30:10] <Althego> oh no thunderbird got
a design change
L9[00:31:19] <Althego> soyuz in 5
hours
L10[00:31:23] <Althego> spaxec in 12
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L19[02:21:46] <Althego> if somebody in the
space station takes a picture and wants to release it to the
internet, are they uploading or downloading it? :)
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L38[04:21:22] <Althego> there is some
stream already, but fullrussian :)
L39[04:24:00] <petti> proper 480p24?
L41[04:24:14] <kmath> YouTube - LIVE LAUNCH
OF THE SOYUZ MS-11 To the ISS
L42[04:24:24] <Fluburtur> time to make a
custom screw profile in fusion 360
L43[04:24:28] <Althego> the capsule view
seems to be live
L44[04:24:42] <Althego> just how do you
come up with these idead
L45[04:24:43] <Althego> s
L46[04:24:57] <Fluburtur> the software
dosnt have the software thread
L47[04:25:00] <Althego> why would anybody
want a vustom screw
L48[04:25:10] <Gasher[work]> Althego, what
a foolish quiestions - the satellites have a higher orbit than the
station so it's 'upload' :)
L49[04:25:13] <Fluburtur> what did I
say
L50[04:25:21] <Fluburtur> it does,nt have
the kodak thread
L51[04:25:26] <Fluburtur> and I need to
print that
L52[04:25:27] <Althego> but ultimately it
goes down to earth
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L55[04:27:55] <Gasher[work]> Fluburtur,
custom?
L56[04:28:08] <Fluburtur> yeah
L57[04:28:43] <Gasher[work]> what
for?
L58[04:29:04] <Fluburtur> to print female
threads so I can slap stuff on a camera tripod
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L60[04:29:59] <Gasher[work]> can't you
like, buy a tap for that
L61[04:29:59] <petti> It's nice to be
able to sell 2 dollar parts for 40 dollars, hence custom
parts.
L62[04:30:16] <Althego> hehe
L63[04:30:17] <Fluburtur> yeah those parts
are usually very expensive
L64[04:30:24] <Althego> that makes sense
now
L65[04:30:26] <Fluburtur> and I want to
integrate them to custom parts as well
L66[04:30:42] <petti> Anyone wonder how
apple became so rich...
L67[04:31:01] <Althego> simple: by cheap
sell expensive
L68[04:31:09] <Althego> and they do nothing
else
L69[04:31:29] <petti> "oh you seem to
have a broken connector. That's a thousand dollar fix
okthx"
L70[04:31:35] <Althego> exactly
L71[04:31:47] <Althego> and they aare
trying t heir hardest to suppress 3rd party repair
L72[04:32:12] <Althego> then after a while
they dont even fix, just force you to buy a new one
L73[04:32:36] <Althego> apple represents
everything wrong in a company
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L75[04:33:33] <Althego> but at least we can
be grateful for apple that they moved the market away from
fullhf
L76[04:33:37] <Althego> *hd
L77[04:33:40] <Gasher[work]> like, how to
carve a marked and stay in it for decades, you mean? :D
L79[04:34:10] <kmath> YouTube - NASA Live:
Official Stream of NASA TV
L80[04:34:27] <petti> They moved the market
by buying oem displays and sticking them into a product? OK
then.
L81[04:34:28] <Gasher[work]> the launch
will be in an hour, right?
L82[04:34:46] <Althego> they forced other
companies to use high resolution displays
L83[04:34:53] <Althego> in less than an
hour
L84[04:35:13] <Althego> 56 minutes 40
secs
L85[04:35:22] <Fluburtur> let's see if
my custom thread works
L86[04:35:30] <Fluburtur> it is made for
only one specific size so it should
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L88[04:39:28] <Gasher[work]> hm, the thread
on the part i'm making is also non-standard: M15.96X0.75
L89[04:47:39] <Fluburtur> I cant be the
first one to try makign a kodak thread in fusion
L90[04:48:31] <Althego> maybe you can even
but it
L91[04:48:37] <Althego> some adapter
thing
L92[04:52:39] <Fluburtur> apparnetly, the
1/4-20 UNC under the ansi unified screw threads coms close
L93[04:52:46] <Fluburtur> I will quickly
print a test model then
L94[04:56:22] <petti> all threads are
compatible if you apply enough force
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L96[04:56:27] <Althego> hehe
L97[04:56:55] <Althego> old siemens service
wisdom: if you cant do it with force, apply more force :)
L98[05:01:18] <Fluburtur> looks fresh in
baikonour
L99[05:01:36] <Althego> what did you
expect, december in continental climate
L100[05:01:56] <Fluburtur> nice oxygen
rich atmosphere around the rocket
L101[05:02:31] <Althego> smell of fresh
oxygen in the afternoon :)
L102[05:02:57] <Fluburtur> "nerds get
to go to space"
L103[05:03:09] <Althego> nerd girl
power
L104[05:03:17] <Althego> helicopter
pilot
L105[05:06:11] <Althego> how did they go
up to 13 people? not divisible by 3
L106[05:08:04] <Fluburtur> partial
launches
L107[05:08:14] <Fluburtur> they used to
launch soyuz with only 2 guys
L108[05:08:19] <Gasher[work]> like the
last one
L109[05:08:39] <Althego> poor american
remained a space virgin :)
L110[05:09:07] <Fluburtur> I have to go
eat, hope I will be back before the launch
L111[05:10:11] <Althego> humans can
survive without food for weeks
L112[05:13:04] <Mat2ch> does anyone know
how fast Hammock got nominated for this flight?
L113[05:13:19] <Mat2ch> oh, wait,
she's not on that flight at all
L114[05:13:34] <Mat2ch> she's on
MS-12, not -11
L115[05:20:55] <Althego> what is that
random radio station playing music in the stream?
L116[05:21:08] <Althego> or somebody is
listening to a radio next to the camera
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L121[05:25:26] <Mat2ch> Althego: Not
sure... but maybe the official music stream from the
Russians?
L122[05:25:45] <Mat2ch> And it's
funny how the moderator is talking over it all the time :D
L123[05:25:56] <Mat2ch> so they don't
have to pay fees for it
L124[05:31:23] <Althego> 1 minute
L125[05:34:05] <Gasher[work]> damn, stream
unstable
L126[05:34:43] <Fluburtur> damn that
stream is crap
L127[05:34:45] <Althego> heh no
picture
L128[05:34:59] <Althego> last time i could
see the korolev cross not forming
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L130[05:46:09] <Althego> they are in orbit
now, next up is the osiris rex arrival in 5 hours and 14
minutes
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L133[05:54:04] <Althego> why is the stream
not over? are they doing a fast docking?
L134[05:56:02] <Gasher[work]> in 6 hours i
think
L135[05:56:18] <Althego> probably not
streaming all that
L136[05:56:29] <Althego> maybe just the
docking, the last hour
L137[06:00:25] <Rolf> did I miss the
launch?
L138[06:00:33] <Eddi|zuHause> did i miss
lunch?
L139[06:01:05] <Althego> yes
L140[06:01:19] <Althego> already mrs
launch :)
L141[06:01:39] <Rolf> no worries watching
it now
L142[06:01:48] <Althego> cant see
anything
L143[06:01:58] <Althego> the live image
didnt even show booster separatio
L144[06:01:58] <Althego> n
L145[06:16:15] <Fluburtur> the thread I
found works good
L146[06:16:26] <Fluburtur> needs to be
worked a bit because of tight tolerances tho
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L148[06:19:37] <Eddi|zuHause>
"<Althego> humans can survive without food for
weeks" <- "unfortunately" there's more
things to living than just surviving
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L150[06:24:51] <Rolf> food weeks water few
days oxygen minutes
L151[06:25:04] <Althego> internet, seconds
:)
L152[06:25:08] <Rolf> without space, zero
second
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L154[06:36:22] <Mat2ch> Althego:
they're doing a fast dock
L155[06:38:35] <Mat2ch> I'm eagerly
awaiting January 7/8th
L156[06:39:04] <Mat2ch> and I hope they
get everything done by then. First demo flight will be really
interesting
L157[06:50:00] <Fluburtur> I have been
messing a bit with the rc motor calc
L158[06:50:14] <Fluburtur> found a combo
that can push 317kph of static pitch speed in theory
L159[06:50:52] <Eddi|zuHause> have they
solved the ISS return pod problem yet?
L160[06:55:02] <Mat2ch> which
problem?
L161[07:17:16] <VanDisaster> I believe
it's called "launching another soyuz", isn't
it?
L162[07:21:24] <Eddi|zuHause> Mat2ch: when
that launch failed, there was talk about maybe them having to leave
the ISS empty, as the docked return pod's fuel degrades and
was only good until december
L163[07:22:15] <Mat2ch> Eddi|zuHause: oh,
I'd say that they can leave in time now
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L165[07:26:39] <Mat2ch> I guess they
feared that the problem couldn't be found fast enough and then
the crew from expedition 57 would have to stay longer, to keep the
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L167[07:28:58] <Fluburtur> uh weather is
rather bad here
L168[07:29:02] <Fluburtur> wind and
rain
L169[07:30:21] <GlassYuri> "Beware of
boredom! New games now on GOG.COM" uuuh wording?
L170[07:36:36] <Fluburtur> beware
L171[07:37:02] <Eclipser> what's
wrong with the wording?
L172[07:37:20] <Fluburtur> "dont be a
square, be a cube"
L173[07:39:44] <sandbox> good new
games
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L175[07:54:24] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: finally
rain here
L176[07:54:33] <Mat2ch> but we need more
after this dry summer
L177[07:54:40] <Fluburtur> I wish we had
good weather here
L178[07:54:56] <Fluburtur> or at least
snow so I can build a snow plane
L179[07:55:09] <Althego> snow plane?
L180[07:55:14] <snow> I wouldn't mind
having my own plane
L181[07:55:21] <Althego> hehe
L182[07:55:21] <Fluburtur> with skis
L183[07:55:30] <Althego> ah i thought made
of snow, like snow man
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L186[08:02:31] <sandbox> finally sun
here
L187[08:03:03] <Althego> isnt it oracle?
:)
L188[08:03:23] <Althego> n billion devices
run java!
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L200[10:12:05] <kmath> YouTube - NASA
Live: Official Stream of NASA TV
L201[10:12:26] <Althego> btw isnt the
docking happening right now?
L202[10:12:43] <Gasher> i think it's
a bit later
L203[10:14:23] <Gasher> start of
broadcast: 20:00 (now it's 19:13), docking on 20:35, accordi
ng to TsENKI site
L204[10:15:02] <Althego> this is bad,
because the bennu thing is at the same t ime
L205[10:16:51] <Althego> but if not, it
will intersect with the spacex launch
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L207[10:27:47] <Fluburtur> "why?
because we can"
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L209[10:46:50] <Althego> so it
begins
L210[10:47:00] <Althego> with out of sync
audio :)Ö
L211[10:47:33] <Althego> i dont expect an
hour long burn as with cassini
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L213[11:05:04] <Althego> this osiris rex
stream is surprisingly underwhelming
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L220[11:14:25] <Gasher> docking broadcast
on
L221[11:14:51] <Althego> link?
L222[11:15:10] <Althego> ah here it
is
L223[11:15:40] <Fluburtur> did they cut
the bennu stream with the soyuz?
L224[11:15:45] <Althego> yes
L225[11:16:32] <Althego> so where are they
going to put the crs-16? they are almsot full
L226[11:17:48] <Gasher> they say there is
no sound stream from the ship
L227[11:18:29] <Fluburtur> what the crape
is a statue mile
L228[11:18:36] <Althego> hehe
L229[11:18:39] <Althego> who knows
L230[11:18:40] <Fluburtur> also, first
time I see a docking live
L231[11:18:47] <Fluburtur> cant they say
400km like normal peoples
L232[11:18:52] <Gasher> btw, did the
astronaut chickened out of the expedition after the aborted launch?
:D
L233[11:18:58] <Althego> there are like a
dozen kinds of mile
L234[11:19:01] <Althego> so who
cares
L235[11:19:20] <Fluburtur> Gasher probably
physical exam because of unplanned 7g reentry
L236[11:19:24] <Althego> hehe no, even at
that time it was said they are going up in a later flight
L237[11:19:58] <Althego> statued mile is
probably the normal american mile
L238[11:20:45] <Gasher> Fluburtur, well
flight commander is still the same
L239[11:21:13] <Althego> he is in
ms-12
L240[11:21:15] <Eddi|zuHause> ignorant
americans are probably even unaware that there are other
miles
L241[11:21:42] <darsie> I guess 7 g for
what, 30 s?, is an interesting experience. They probably trained
that.
L242[11:21:44] <Althego> "statute
mile was made equivalent to 8 furlongs or 5,280 feet in
1593"
L243[11:21:51] <Althego> that part alone
is funny
L244[11:22:20] <Eddi|zuHause> how many
grain is that?
L246[11:23:03] <Althego> hehe there is a
survey mile too
L247[11:23:34] <Althego> "In the
United States, statute mile formally refers to the survey mile,[3]
but for most purposes, the difference between the survey mile and
the international mile is insignificant—one international mile is
0.999998 U.S. survey miles—so statute mile can be used for
either."
L248[11:24:13] <Althego> i would like them
to show the approaching soyuz from the iss
L249[11:24:17] <Althego> i like to see the
rcs work
L250[11:25:39] <Eddi|zuHause> speaking of
seeing from the outside, did the mars minisats manage to film the
insight landing last week?
L251[11:25:53] <Althego> nah, they took
pictures of mars
L252[11:26:00] <Gasher> oh they show
that
L253[11:26:08] <Althego> no way that
camera could make that high resolution picture
L254[11:26:10] <Gasher> i mean, from the
station
L255[11:26:37] <Althego> i wondered why
not try to use curiosity to watch for the parachute
L256[11:26:54] <Eddi|zuHause> is that even
close?
L257[11:27:02] <Althego> but supposedly
one of the orbiters tried to snap the parachute. since we havent
seen that, it probably missed it
L258[11:27:16] <Althego> curiosity is a
few hundred kms away
L259[11:27:23] <Althego> at least the
plasma would have been visible
L260[11:27:40] <Althego> with that it was
the closest to the landing
L261[11:27:52] <darsie> They could have
synchronized the orbiters with the landing.
L262[11:28:15] <Eddi|zuHause> sure, i
regularly look out the window and see some parachute come down near
berlin (160km away)
L263[11:28:16] <Althego> one is
transmitted stuff, 4 hours later. and because of t hat they had the
marcos
L264[11:28:40] <darsie> Hmm, maybe the
inclination or argument of periapsis was unsuitable.
L265[11:28:57] <Eddi|zuHause> add to that,
that unlike earth, mars is actually curved.
L266[11:29:07] <Althego> hehe
L267[11:29:11] <Althego> at least curved
more
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L270[11:29:51] <Althego> but at least as a
nerdgasm picture they could have looked for the plasma trail of the
aeroshell
L271[11:30:45] <Althego> hehe, where is
the rcs firing?
L272[11:30:49] <Althego> space is
fake
L273[11:30:52] <Althego> i knew it
L274[11:31:21] <Eddi|zuHause> i'm
imagining it would be difficult to program a camera to find track
the object entering the atmosphere
L275[11:31:29] <Althego> they dont need
to
L276[11:31:37] <Althego> they knew exactly
where it was going to be
L277[11:31:44] <Althego> that is how they
planned the landing
L278[11:32:03] <Althego> that is how they
took parachute pictures from orbit for previous landers
L279[11:32:25] <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, but
what are the error margins on that?
L280[11:32:57] <Althego> i dont know. it
is hard to make that picture
L281[11:33:00] <Althego> but can be
done
L282[11:33:52] <goblin> is there a good
algorithm that could launch me straight into rendezvous with a
specific target, using the least amount of fuel possible?
L283[11:33:53] <Eddi|zuHause> the field of
view of the camera must be larger than the error margin
L284[11:34:23] <Althego> if it isnt, then
there is no picture. just as now
L285[11:34:27] <goblin> and also to 2.
convert from any orbit into a rendezvous with a specific
target?
L286[11:34:30] <Eddi|zuHause> goblin:
mechjeb?
L287[11:34:43] <Althego> meanwhile there
was a capture
L288[11:35:12] <Althego> soon there is
time for the spacex stream to start
L289[11:35:19] <goblin> afair mechjeb
wasn't as smart, but OK, I'll give it another try
L290[11:35:49] <Gasher> Althego, link to
spacex launch?
L292[11:35:56] <kmath> YouTube -
Spaceflight SSO-A: SmallSat Express
L293[11:36:11] <Althego> i have to wait
for the deployment
L294[11:36:19] <Althego> 64 sats, that has
got to be a sight
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L296[11:41:37] <Althego> so the russian on
ms-10 was aleksei, the russian on ms-11 is oleg
L297[11:41:40] <Althego> so htey are not
the same
L298[11:41:55] <Althego> in fact aleksei
is on ms-12 too
L299[11:42:36] <Gasher> oh ,then i misread
that all
L300[11:42:59] <Gasher> well let's
say they both chickened it :)
L301[11:45:47] <goblin> Eddi|zuHause, and
whereabouts in MechJeb would I look? :-)
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L303[11:46:18] <goblin> it seems to have
plenty of small algorithms, to transfer, to match velocity, etc -
but not an all-in-one solution that'd optimize my fuel from
the launch
L304[11:47:08] <goblin> (although some
modules are disabled until I unlock them in R&D,
apparently)
L305[11:48:17] <goblin> for starters,
I've no idea how to launch into a given orbit :-)
L306[11:48:36] <Althego> wait until kerbin
rotatesalmost under it
L307[11:52:46] <goblin> Althego, uhm,
but... how do I know where it is? :-)
L308[11:52:58] <Althego> you see it in map
view?
L309[11:53:17] <goblin> by "given
orbit" I mean "orbit with given ArgPe, inclination, Apo,
Peri and the other 2 thingies"
L310[11:53:35] <Althego> but if it is a
contract orbit it should be visible in the map
L311[11:54:06] <goblin> yeah, but
it's not, I'm just trying to dock with a guy who's
on a weird orbit
L312[11:54:27] <Althego> then it is a
craft, it should be even more visible in the map
L313[11:54:30] <goblin> I mean OK, I can
judge it by eye, but I'd rather have it all scripted :-)
L314[11:54:49] <goblin> hence
"looking for an all-in-one algorithm" ;-)
L315[11:55:51] <goblin> however, that is
actually helpful to do it manually the first time. But how do I
pick the heading?
L316[12:06:58] <goblin> ok, just found
"Launch to Rendezvous" in MechJeb2's "Ascent
Guidance". It launched me into a very weird direction, and
when I got out of atmosphere, scheduled a 2700m/s nearly-normal
burn that rotates this orbit by 90 degrees
L317[12:07:12] <goblin> that's... not
quite what I'm after ;-)
L318[12:07:32] <Althego> lol
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L321[12:14:34] <Althego> some music is on
the stream
L322[12:15:45] <Althego> you cant beat
spacex in how they visualize the launches with all the
cameras
L323[12:16:51] <Mat2ch> Althego: Kirchhoff
always holds. :P
L324[12:17:05] <Althego> walter lewin syas
otherwise
L325[12:17:20] <Althego> see the other
videos in the description
L326[12:17:35] <Mat2ch> I've seen
that. I think he's just wrong
L327[12:17:54] <Althego> yes now it is
clear he does not include the voltage generated by the
induction
L328[12:18:43] <Mat2ch> Ehm
L329[12:18:55] <Mat2ch> that's what I
thought the first time I saw ElectroBooms video...
L330[12:19:15] <Althego> he convinced me
in the first video too
L331[12:19:24] <Althego> but i watched
lewin's lectures years ago
L332[12:19:31] <Althego> so now refers to
the past few weeks
L333[12:19:59] <Althego> a 3rd time
booster
L334[12:20:02] <Althego> man is it
dirty
L335[12:20:22] <Althego> why bother
makeing it white
L336[12:20:28] <Althego> make it brown in
the beginning :9
L337[12:21:05] <Althego> wait, there is
stream from mr steven?
L338[12:21:13] <Fluburtur> fancy
L339[12:21:19] <Fluburtur> at least this
one wont cut out
L340[12:21:23] <Althego> hehe
L341[12:21:26] <Fluburtur> unless the
fairings have boosters
L342[12:21:31] <Althego> tehy have
rcs
L343[12:21:40] <Fluburtur> propulsive
fairing landing
L344[12:21:50] <Fluburtur> after they
re-assemble in space
L345[12:22:03] <Althego> funny thing that
the first capture of that fairing rcs was done by reds rhetoric,
who is an anti flat earther
L346[12:22:29] <Althego> why dont they
bother cleaning it a bit?
L347[12:22:39] <Althego> sure the dirt has
more drag
L348[12:22:42] <Fluburtur> they give the
intern a toothbrush
L349[12:22:47] <Althego> hehe
L350[12:22:59] <Fluburtur> probably not
that bad if they leave it
L351[12:23:06] <Fluburtur> just blackened
paint
L352[12:23:37] <Fluburtur> this poor lady
can't talk
L353[12:23:40] <Althego> yes
L354[12:23:57] <Althego> but why 1 ship
for two fairing halves?
L355[12:24:09] <Fluburtur> I guess they
aim both at the ship
L356[12:24:18] <Fluburtur> and expect one
to fail
L357[12:24:26] <Althego> no, the rcs just
keeps reentry orientation because they are unstable
L358[12:24:32] <Fluburtur> they dont want
to build another ship and not use it if it doesnt work
L359[12:24:40] <Althego> that is more
logical
L360[12:25:07] <Fluburtur> looks like it
should glide a bit
L361[12:25:10] <Fluburtur> like a
brick
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L363[12:31:31] <Althego> what is this
mythical countdown net?
L364[12:31:39] <Althego> there is an
alternate view calledl iek it
L365[12:32:58] <Althego> as usual 100k
watching
L366[12:33:16] <Althego> even though elon
said he wanted to make the returns boring
L367[12:35:26] <Kalpa> Very boring.
L368[12:35:42] <Althego> cameraman is
drunk
L369[12:37:03] <Althego> ehehe these kinds
of videos rule
L370[12:37:10] <Kalpa> There goes the
fairing
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L372[12:37:22] <Althego> as you can see
how the booster turns back and flames hit it
L373[12:37:50] <Althego> hehe we could see
the boostback ending by those wires
L374[12:37:55] <Kalpa> Yeah
L375[12:38:13] <Althego> hehe see the
curve
L376[12:38:21] <Althego> whatever fake cgi
:)
L377[12:40:45] <Fluburtur> wow that entry
burn view is quite amazing
L378[12:41:22] <Althego> why do they use
satellitel ink now?
L379[12:41:28] <Althego> they are like 40
kms away
L380[12:41:31] <Althego> no need for
that
L381[12:41:43] <Fluburtur> lazy to set up
a new network
L382[12:41:54] <Althego> we have external
coverage anyway
L383[12:42:20] <Althego> right on the
spot
L384[12:42:23] <Fluburtur> and it booped
ont he ship quite nicely
L385[12:44:00] <Althego> eh no satelltie
deployment
L386[12:44:10] <Althego> i mean no image
of it
L387[12:44:19] <Althego> i wanted to watch
it
L388[12:44:25] <Fluburtur> where fairing
grab
L389[12:44:55] <Althego> follow
twitter...
L390[12:45:51] <Mat2ch> I guess
that'll take some time
L391[12:46:00] <Mat2ch> darting through
the atmosphere vs. gliding...
L392[12:46:02] <Althego> as they said,
about 40 minuets
L393[12:46:39] <Mat2ch> still, a live
stream would've been fun to watch
L394[12:46:52] <goblin> hm, interesting,
Wikipedia says that "Hohmann transfer orbit is [...] used to
transfer between two
circular orbits", but MechJeb just
used it to transfer me between elliptical ones :-O
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L396[12:50:01] <hoglahoo> wow, sounds like
it’s used for more than one thing. mind blown
L397[12:50:48] <goblin> :-D
L398[12:51:07] <Althego> transfer between
two elliptic orbits may be more complicated even if they are in the
same plane
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sacrificed to the gods of space and rockets
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L412[13:32:14] <Althego> they did not say
what happened to the deployment
L413[13:32:21] <Althego> or the
fairing
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L417[13:38:03] <Althego> what is
this
L418[13:38:10] <Althego> yes a pcb cad
desigbn
L419[13:38:14] <Fluburtur> main pcb for my
next product
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L421[13:40:15] <Althego> which is a 6
channel what
L422[13:40:30] <Fluburtur> antenna
tracker
L423[13:40:35] <Fluburtur> using
RSSI
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L426[13:56:02] <Althego> is it music,
rail, electrical?
L427[13:58:01] <Fluburtur> what
L428[13:58:11] <Althego> conductor
cat
L429[13:58:17] <Althego> what kind of
confuctor
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L432[14:09:16] <Mat2ch> so, no fairing
catching
L433[14:09:25] <hoglahoo> why not
L434[14:10:09] <Althego> fell into the
water
L435[14:10:41] <hoglahoo> darn
L436[14:24:14] <Althego> but supposdly
they are going to be reused anyway
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L440[14:32:04] <Althego> why does the
nvidia updater need some kind of online account to log in?
L441[14:32:19] <Althego> i happen to have
a google account for situations like this
L442[14:32:30] <Althego> but it is still
stupid
L443[14:32:41] <Althego> where does it log
in?
L444[14:32:43] <Althego> and why?
L445[14:42:28] <Neal> Althego, you can
directly download now
L446[14:42:47] <Althego> no such
option
L447[14:42:53] <Althego> it asks me for a
login and doesnt go further
L448[14:43:02] <Althego> unless of course
i bother to look up the driver manually
L450[14:43:18] <Althego> which i was ever
only needed to do for linux
L451[14:43:40] <Neal> ..it takes 10
seconds to fill out
L452[14:43:49] <Althego> but have to check
it
L454[14:44:03] <Althego> an they update
the driver every few wweks
L455[14:44:19] <Althego> that
"geforce experience" checks it for me
L456[14:44:34] <Neal> it's not THAT
important to keep your gpu drivers up to date
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L458[14:44:52] <Althego> in fact sometimes
it is abd
L459[14:44:56] <Althego> bad
L460[14:45:00] <Althego> because they mess
up
L461[14:45:06] <Althego> from time to
time
L462[14:45:09] <Neal> ...
L463[14:45:19] <Neal> if it's stable
now, that probably won't change
L464[14:45:28] <Neal> I've had the
same nvidia drivers since july
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L467[14:46:55] <Neal> currently on drivers
from 3/23/2018 actually lol. That's when I had had enough of
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L475[15:37:49] <goblin> ok, so for orbital
rendezvous algorithm MechJeb uses something like "1. Align
planes, 2. Establish new (probably circular) orbit, 3. Intercept
with Hohmann transfer, 4. Match velocities at closest
approach". This doesn't seem that optimal.
L476[15:38:25] <goblin> I'm thinking
two good burns in the right direction at the right times should be
better. And it shouldn't be clearly normal or clearly
prograde... a mix of the two seems to save fuel
L477[15:40:54] <goblin> maybe 3 burns.
With the bi-elliptic magic or something of that sort.
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L483[16:48:42] <Eddi|zuHause> it might be
difficult to combine burns, as the plane-adjust burn should be at
AN or DN, while the Hohmann transfer burn should be at PE
L484[16:49:36] <Eddi|zuHause> those
don't necessarily align with the target location
L485[16:50:23] <darsie> I adjust plane
half way through Hohmann transfer.
L486[16:50:33] <darsie> For planetary
encounters.
L487[16:50:36] <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, that
usually works
L488[16:51:32] <Eddi|zuHause> if your
timing is right, you might get to plane adjust at the target
location
L489[16:51:53] <darsie> At Pe.
L490[16:52:11] <darsie> possibly by
aerobraking.
L491[16:53:09] <Eddi|zuHause> a lot of the
"make this more optimal" thing depends on the actual
situation, like does the target have gravity (planet/moon), or is
the target further in or further out from the current orbit
L492[16:54:09] <Eddi|zuHause> if
you're planning a planet intercept from kerbin launch pad,
waiting for the right time to launch may be beneficial as you
don't have to enter orbit of kerbin
L493[16:54:32] <darsie> For local
encounters it's best to launch at AN/DN directly into the
right plane. If you are not already in an orbit.
L494[16:56:47] <darsie> dv requirements
for interplanetary transfers depend on the constellation at the
transfer window. Waiting for a cheaper window is not always
desirable.
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L499[17:32:18] <Eddi|zuHause> so basically
you hook up a mic to the strings, and pipe that through a
distortion app?
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L504[18:46:30] <goblin> yeah but I'm
not sure Hohmann transfer on an aligned plane is the best option.
Actually it not always is, sometimes e.g. bi-elliptic transfer is
better.
L505[18:47:07] <goblin> perhaps matching
planes would be better done at closest approach / orbit
intersection
L506[18:47:16] <goblin> or some other
time
L507[18:47:50] <goblin> i.e. up at the SOI
edge for a bi-elliptic transfer or something. I don't know
;-)
L508[18:49:31] <goblin> and circularizing
the orbit before Hohmann transfer is almost certainly not
optimal
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L533[21:56:42] <Mazura> Looking for
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L549[22:58:32] <ksp_love_w_question> hello
all
L550[23:00:19] <ksp_love_w_question> how
compatible are mods built for 1.4 in the 1.5.1 build?
L551[23:00:44] <Eddi|zuHause> depends on
the mod
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L554[23:05:21] <ksp_love_w_question>
figures. what about EVE? i never noticed a difference, but i did
install a lot of mods at once. definitely doesn't look like i
thought. do i need to configure it first?
L555[23:06:27] <ksp_love_w_question> hmm.
i'm thinking i probably didn't install it correctly after
all. will try again. is there a list of good mods for 1.5.1 like
there is on the subreddit for 1.2 anywhere?
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L566[23:50:55] <Althego> eh crs-16
moved
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