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L4[00:28:43] <Rolf> when you wanna play ksp and minecraft https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKwZVBNJRAc
L5[00:28:43] <kmath> YouTube - Minecraft Rocket Mod - Fly to The Moon! “MOD SHOWCASE” GALACTICRAFT
L6[00:29:37] <Deddly> Yogscast playing that mod is what led me to KSP
L7[00:30:10] <Althego> oh no thunderbird got a design change
L8[00:30:11] <Rolf> nice
L9[00:31:19] <Althego> soyuz in 5 hours
L10[00:31:23] <Althego> spaxec in 12 hours
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L19[02:21:46] <Althego> if somebody in the space station takes a picture and wants to release it to the internet, are they uploading or downloading it? :)
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L27[03:50:43] <Althego> https://spectrum.ieee.org/nanoclast/semiconductors/devices/new-metalair-transistor-replaces-semiconductors
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L38[04:21:22] <Althego> there is some stream already, but fullrussian :)
L39[04:24:00] <petti> proper 480p24?
L40[04:24:14] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfxsMVnokwQ
L41[04:24:14] <kmath> YouTube - LIVE LAUNCH OF THE SOYUZ MS-11 To the ISS
L42[04:24:24] <Fluburtur> time to make a custom screw profile in fusion 360
L43[04:24:28] <Althego> the capsule view seems to be live
L44[04:24:42] <Althego> just how do you come up with these idead
L45[04:24:43] <Althego> s
L46[04:24:57] <Fluburtur> the software dosnt have the software thread
L47[04:25:00] <Althego> why would anybody want a vustom screw
L48[04:25:10] <Gasher[work]> Althego, what a foolish quiestions - the satellites have a higher orbit than the station so it's 'upload' :)
L49[04:25:13] <Fluburtur> what did I say
L50[04:25:21] <Fluburtur> it does,nt have the kodak thread
L51[04:25:26] <Fluburtur> and I need to print that
L52[04:25:27] <Althego> but ultimately it goes down to earth
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L55[04:27:55] <Gasher[work]> Fluburtur, custom?
L56[04:28:08] <Fluburtur> yeah
L57[04:28:43] <Gasher[work]> what for?
L58[04:29:04] <Fluburtur> to print female threads so I can slap stuff on a camera tripod
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L60[04:29:59] <Gasher[work]> can't you like, buy a tap for that
L61[04:29:59] <petti> It's nice to be able to sell 2 dollar parts for 40 dollars, hence custom parts.
L62[04:30:16] <Althego> hehe
L63[04:30:17] <Fluburtur> yeah those parts are usually very expensive
L64[04:30:24] <Althego> that makes sense now
L65[04:30:26] <Fluburtur> and I want to integrate them to custom parts as well
L66[04:30:42] <petti> Anyone wonder how apple became so rich...
L67[04:31:01] <Althego> simple: by cheap sell expensive
L68[04:31:09] <Althego> and they do nothing else
L69[04:31:29] <petti> "oh you seem to have a broken connector. That's a thousand dollar fix okthx"
L70[04:31:35] <Althego> exactly
L71[04:31:47] <Althego> and they aare trying t heir hardest to suppress 3rd party repair
L72[04:32:12] <Althego> then after a while they dont even fix, just force you to buy a new one
L73[04:32:36] <Althego> apple represents everything wrong in a company
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L75[04:33:33] <Althego> but at least we can be grateful for apple that they moved the market away from fullhf
L76[04:33:37] <Althego> *hd
L77[04:33:40] <Gasher[work]> like, how to carve a marked and stay in it for decades, you mean? :D
L78[04:34:09] <Althego> so american stream started https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwMDvPCGeE0
L79[04:34:10] <kmath> YouTube - NASA Live: Official Stream of NASA TV
L80[04:34:27] <petti> They moved the market by buying oem displays and sticking them into a product? OK then.
L81[04:34:28] <Gasher[work]> the launch will be in an hour, right?
L82[04:34:46] <Althego> they forced other companies to use high resolution displays
L83[04:34:53] <Althego> in less than an hour
L84[04:35:13] <Althego> 56 minutes 40 secs
L85[04:35:22] <Fluburtur> let's see if my custom thread works
L86[04:35:30] <Fluburtur> it is made for only one specific size so it should
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L88[04:39:28] <Gasher[work]> hm, the thread on the part i'm making is also non-standard: M15.96X0.75
L89[04:47:39] <Fluburtur> I cant be the first one to try makign a kodak thread in fusion
L90[04:48:31] <Althego> maybe you can even but it
L91[04:48:37] <Althego> some adapter thing
L92[04:52:39] <Fluburtur> apparnetly, the 1/4-20 UNC under the ansi unified screw threads coms close
L93[04:52:46] <Fluburtur> I will quickly print a test model then
L94[04:56:22] <petti> all threads are compatible if you apply enough force
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L96[04:56:27] <Althego> hehe
L97[04:56:55] <Althego> old siemens service wisdom: if you cant do it with force, apply more force :)
L98[05:01:18] <Fluburtur> looks fresh in baikonour
L99[05:01:36] <Althego> what did you expect, december in continental climate
L100[05:01:56] <Fluburtur> nice oxygen rich atmosphere around the rocket
L101[05:02:31] <Althego> smell of fresh oxygen in the afternoon :)
L102[05:02:57] <Fluburtur> "nerds get to go to space"
L103[05:03:09] <Althego> nerd girl power
L104[05:03:17] <Althego> helicopter pilot
L105[05:06:11] <Althego> how did they go up to 13 people? not divisible by 3
L106[05:08:04] <Fluburtur> partial launches
L107[05:08:14] <Fluburtur> they used to launch soyuz with only 2 guys
L108[05:08:19] <Gasher[work]> like the last one
L109[05:08:39] <Althego> poor american remained a space virgin :)
L110[05:09:07] <Fluburtur> I have to go eat, hope I will be back before the launch
L111[05:10:11] <Althego> humans can survive without food for weeks
L112[05:13:04] <Mat2ch> does anyone know how fast Hammock got nominated for this flight?
L113[05:13:19] <Mat2ch> oh, wait, she's not on that flight at all
L114[05:13:34] <Mat2ch> she's on MS-12, not -11
L115[05:20:55] <Althego> what is that random radio station playing music in the stream?
L116[05:21:08] <Althego> or somebody is listening to a radio next to the camera
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L121[05:25:26] <Mat2ch> Althego: Not sure... but maybe the official music stream from the Russians?
L122[05:25:45] <Mat2ch> And it's funny how the moderator is talking over it all the time :D
L123[05:25:56] <Mat2ch> so they don't have to pay fees for it
L124[05:31:23] <Althego> 1 minute
L125[05:34:05] <Gasher[work]> damn, stream unstable
L126[05:34:43] <Fluburtur> damn that stream is crap
L127[05:34:45] <Althego> heh no picture
L128[05:34:59] <Althego> last time i could see the korolev cross not forming
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L130[05:46:09] <Althego> they are in orbit now, next up is the osiris rex arrival in 5 hours and 14 minutes
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L133[05:54:04] <Althego> why is the stream not over? are they doing a fast docking?
L134[05:56:02] <Gasher[work]> in 6 hours i think
L135[05:56:18] <Althego> probably not streaming all that
L136[05:56:29] <Althego> maybe just the docking, the last hour
L137[06:00:25] <Rolf> did I miss the launch?
L138[06:00:33] <Eddi|zuHause> did i miss lunch?
L139[06:01:05] <Althego> yes
L140[06:01:19] <Althego> already mrs launch :)
L141[06:01:39] <Rolf> no worries watching it now
L142[06:01:48] <Althego> cant see anything
L143[06:01:58] <Althego> the live image didnt even show booster separatio
L144[06:01:58] <Althego> n
L145[06:16:15] <Fluburtur> the thread I found works good
L146[06:16:26] <Fluburtur> needs to be worked a bit because of tight tolerances tho
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L148[06:19:37] <Eddi|zuHause> "<Althego> humans can survive without food for weeks" <- "unfortunately" there's more things to living than just surviving
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L150[06:24:51] <Rolf> food weeks water few days oxygen minutes
L151[06:25:04] <Althego> internet, seconds :)
L152[06:25:08] <Rolf> without space, zero second
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L154[06:36:22] <Mat2ch> Althego: they're doing a fast dock
L155[06:38:35] <Mat2ch> I'm eagerly awaiting January 7/8th
L156[06:39:04] <Mat2ch> and I hope they get everything done by then. First demo flight will be really interesting
L157[06:50:00] <Fluburtur> I have been messing a bit with the rc motor calc
L158[06:50:14] <Fluburtur> found a combo that can push 317kph of static pitch speed in theory
L159[06:50:52] <Eddi|zuHause> have they solved the ISS return pod problem yet?
L160[06:55:02] <Mat2ch> which problem?
L161[07:17:16] <VanDisaster> I believe it's called "launching another soyuz", isn't it?
L162[07:21:24] <Eddi|zuHause> Mat2ch: when that launch failed, there was talk about maybe them having to leave the ISS empty, as the docked return pod's fuel degrades and was only good until december
L163[07:22:15] <Mat2ch> Eddi|zuHause: oh, I'd say that they can leave in time now
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L165[07:26:39] <Mat2ch> I guess they feared that the problem couldn't be found fast enough and then the crew from expedition 57 would have to stay longer, to keep the station running
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L167[07:28:58] <Fluburtur> uh weather is rather bad here
L168[07:29:02] <Fluburtur> wind and rain
L169[07:30:21] <GlassYuri> "Beware of boredom! New games now on GOG.COM" uuuh wording?
L170[07:36:36] <Fluburtur> beware
L171[07:37:02] <Eclipser> what's wrong with the wording?
L172[07:37:20] <Fluburtur> "dont be a square, be a cube"
L173[07:39:44] <sandbox> good new games
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L175[07:54:24] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: finally rain here
L176[07:54:33] <Mat2ch> but we need more after this dry summer
L177[07:54:40] <Fluburtur> I wish we had good weather here
L178[07:54:56] <Fluburtur> or at least snow so I can build a snow plane
L179[07:55:09] <Althego> snow plane?
L180[07:55:14] <snow> I wouldn't mind having my own plane
L181[07:55:21] <Althego> hehe
L182[07:55:21] <Fluburtur> with skis
L183[07:55:30] <Althego> ah i thought made of snow, like snow man
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L186[08:02:31] <sandbox> finally sun here
L187[08:03:03] <Althego> isnt it oracle? :)
L188[08:03:23] <Althego> n billion devices run java!
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L199[10:12:05] <Althego> ok, osiris rex in few minutes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwMDvPCGeE0
L200[10:12:05] <kmath> YouTube - NASA Live: Official Stream of NASA TV
L201[10:12:26] <Althego> btw isnt the docking happening right now?
L202[10:12:43] <Gasher> i think it's a bit later
L203[10:14:23] <Gasher> start of broadcast: 20:00 (now it's 19:13), docking on 20:35, accordi ng to TsENKI site
L204[10:15:02] <Althego> this is bad, because the bennu thing is at the same t ime
L205[10:16:51] <Althego> but if not, it will intersect with the spacex launch
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L207[10:27:47] <Fluburtur> "why? because we can"
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L209[10:46:50] <Althego> so it begins
L210[10:47:00] <Althego> with out of sync audio :)Ö
L211[10:47:33] <Althego> i dont expect an hour long burn as with cassini
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L213[11:05:04] <Althego> this osiris rex stream is surprisingly underwhelming
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L220[11:14:25] <Gasher> docking broadcast on
L221[11:14:51] <Althego> link?
L222[11:15:10] <Althego> ah here it is
L223[11:15:40] <Fluburtur> did they cut the bennu stream with the soyuz?
L224[11:15:45] <Althego> yes
L225[11:16:32] <Althego> so where are they going to put the crs-16? they are almsot full
L226[11:17:48] <Gasher> they say there is no sound stream from the ship
L227[11:18:29] <Fluburtur> what the crape is a statue mile
L228[11:18:36] <Althego> hehe
L229[11:18:39] <Althego> who knows
L230[11:18:40] <Fluburtur> also, first time I see a docking live
L231[11:18:47] <Fluburtur> cant they say 400km like normal peoples
L232[11:18:52] <Gasher> btw, did the astronaut chickened out of the expedition after the aborted launch? :D
L233[11:18:58] <Althego> there are like a dozen kinds of mile
L234[11:19:01] <Althego> so who cares
L235[11:19:20] <Fluburtur> Gasher probably physical exam because of unplanned 7g reentry
L236[11:19:24] <Althego> hehe no, even at that time it was said they are going up in a later flight
L237[11:19:58] <Althego> statued mile is probably the normal american mile
L238[11:20:45] <Gasher> Fluburtur, well flight commander is still the same
L239[11:21:13] <Althego> he is in ms-12
L240[11:21:15] <Eddi|zuHause> ignorant americans are probably even unaware that there are other miles
L241[11:21:42] <darsie> I guess 7 g for what, 30 s?, is an interesting experience. They probably trained that.
L242[11:21:44] <Althego> "statute mile was made equivalent to 8 furlongs or 5,280 feet in 1593"
L243[11:21:51] <Althego> that part alone is funny
L244[11:22:20] <Eddi|zuHause> how many grain is that?
L245[11:22:32] <Althego> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soyuz_MS-12
L246[11:23:03] <Althego> hehe there is a survey mile too
L247[11:23:34] <Althego> "In the United States, statute mile formally refers to the survey mile,[3] but for most purposes, the difference between the survey mile and the international mile is insignificant—one international mile is 0.999998 U.S. survey miles—so statute mile can be used for either."
L248[11:24:13] <Althego> i would like them to show the approaching soyuz from the iss
L249[11:24:17] <Althego> i like to see the rcs work
L250[11:25:39] <Eddi|zuHause> speaking of seeing from the outside, did the mars minisats manage to film the insight landing last week?
L251[11:25:53] <Althego> nah, they took pictures of mars
L252[11:26:00] <Gasher> oh they show that
L253[11:26:08] <Althego> no way that camera could make that high resolution picture
L254[11:26:10] <Gasher> i mean, from the station
L255[11:26:37] <Althego> i wondered why not try to use curiosity to watch for the parachute
L256[11:26:54] <Eddi|zuHause> is that even close?
L257[11:27:02] <Althego> but supposedly one of the orbiters tried to snap the parachute. since we havent seen that, it probably missed it
L258[11:27:16] <Althego> curiosity is a few hundred kms away
L259[11:27:23] <Althego> at least the plasma would have been visible
L260[11:27:40] <Althego> with that it was the closest to the landing
L261[11:27:52] <darsie> They could have synchronized the orbiters with the landing.
L262[11:28:15] <Eddi|zuHause> sure, i regularly look out the window and see some parachute come down near berlin (160km away)
L263[11:28:16] <Althego> one is transmitted stuff, 4 hours later. and because of t hat they had the marcos
L264[11:28:40] <darsie> Hmm, maybe the inclination or argument of periapsis was unsuitable.
L265[11:28:57] <Eddi|zuHause> add to that, that unlike earth, mars is actually curved.
L266[11:29:07] <Althego> hehe
L267[11:29:11] <Althego> at least curved more
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L270[11:29:51] <Althego> but at least as a nerdgasm picture they could have looked for the plasma trail of the aeroshell
L271[11:30:45] <Althego> hehe, where is the rcs firing?
L272[11:30:49] <Althego> space is fake
L273[11:30:52] <Althego> i knew it
L274[11:31:21] <Eddi|zuHause> i'm imagining it would be difficult to program a camera to find track the object entering the atmosphere
L275[11:31:29] <Althego> they dont need to
L276[11:31:37] <Althego> they knew exactly where it was going to be
L277[11:31:44] <Althego> that is how they planned the landing
L278[11:32:03] <Althego> that is how they took parachute pictures from orbit for previous landers
L279[11:32:25] <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, but what are the error margins on that?
L280[11:32:57] <Althego> i dont know. it is hard to make that picture
L281[11:33:00] <Althego> but can be done
L282[11:33:52] <goblin> is there a good algorithm that could launch me straight into rendezvous with a specific target, using the least amount of fuel possible?
L283[11:33:53] <Eddi|zuHause> the field of view of the camera must be larger than the error margin
L284[11:34:23] <Althego> if it isnt, then there is no picture. just as now
L285[11:34:27] <goblin> and also to 2. convert from any orbit into a rendezvous with a specific target?
L286[11:34:30] <Eddi|zuHause> goblin: mechjeb?
L287[11:34:43] <Althego> meanwhile there was a capture
L288[11:35:12] <Althego> soon there is time for the spacex stream to start
L289[11:35:19] <goblin> afair mechjeb wasn't as smart, but OK, I'll give it another try
L290[11:35:49] <Gasher> Althego, link to spacex launch?
L291[11:35:56] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wq8kS6UoOrQ
L292[11:35:56] <kmath> YouTube - Spaceflight SSO-A: SmallSat Express
L293[11:36:11] <Althego> i have to wait for the deployment
L294[11:36:19] <Althego> 64 sats, that has got to be a sight
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L296[11:41:37] <Althego> so the russian on ms-10 was aleksei, the russian on ms-11 is oleg
L297[11:41:40] <Althego> so htey are not the same
L298[11:41:55] <Althego> in fact aleksei is on ms-12 too
L299[11:42:36] <Gasher> oh ,then i misread that all
L300[11:42:59] <Gasher> well let's say they both chickened it :)
L301[11:45:47] <goblin> Eddi|zuHause, and whereabouts in MechJeb would I look? :-)
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L303[11:46:18] <goblin> it seems to have plenty of small algorithms, to transfer, to match velocity, etc - but not an all-in-one solution that'd optimize my fuel from the launch
L304[11:47:08] <goblin> (although some modules are disabled until I unlock them in R&D, apparently)
L305[11:48:17] <goblin> for starters, I've no idea how to launch into a given orbit :-)
L306[11:48:36] <Althego> wait until kerbin rotatesalmost under it
L307[11:52:46] <goblin> Althego, uhm, but... how do I know where it is? :-)
L308[11:52:58] <Althego> you see it in map view?
L309[11:53:17] <goblin> by "given orbit" I mean "orbit with given ArgPe, inclination, Apo, Peri and the other 2 thingies"
L310[11:53:35] <Althego> but if it is a contract orbit it should be visible in the map
L311[11:54:06] <goblin> yeah, but it's not, I'm just trying to dock with a guy who's on a weird orbit
L312[11:54:27] <Althego> then it is a craft, it should be even more visible in the map
L313[11:54:30] <goblin> I mean OK, I can judge it by eye, but I'd rather have it all scripted :-)
L314[11:54:49] <goblin> hence "looking for an all-in-one algorithm" ;-)
L315[11:55:51] <goblin> however, that is actually helpful to do it manually the first time. But how do I pick the heading?
L316[12:06:58] <goblin> ok, just found "Launch to Rendezvous" in MechJeb2's "Ascent Guidance". It launched me into a very weird direction, and when I got out of atmosphere, scheduled a 2700m/s nearly-normal burn that rotates this orbit by 90 degrees
L317[12:07:12] <goblin> that's... not quite what I'm after ;-)
L318[12:07:32] <Althego> lol
L319[12:10:02] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9LuVBfwvzA i think he convinced me
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L321[12:14:34] <Althego> some music is on the stream
L322[12:15:45] <Althego> you cant beat spacex in how they visualize the launches with all the cameras
L323[12:16:51] <Mat2ch> Althego: Kirchhoff always holds. :P
L324[12:17:05] <Althego> walter lewin syas otherwise
L325[12:17:20] <Althego> see the other videos in the description
L326[12:17:35] <Mat2ch> I've seen that. I think he's just wrong
L327[12:17:54] <Althego> yes now it is clear he does not include the voltage generated by the induction
L328[12:18:43] <Mat2ch> Ehm
L329[12:18:55] <Mat2ch> that's what I thought the first time I saw ElectroBooms video...
L330[12:19:15] <Althego> he convinced me in the first video too
L331[12:19:24] <Althego> but i watched lewin's lectures years ago
L332[12:19:31] <Althego> so now refers to the past few weeks
L333[12:19:59] <Althego> a 3rd time booster
L334[12:20:02] <Althego> man is it dirty
L335[12:20:22] <Althego> why bother makeing it white
L336[12:20:28] <Althego> make it brown in the beginning :9
L337[12:21:05] <Althego> wait, there is stream from mr steven?
L338[12:21:13] <Fluburtur> fancy
L339[12:21:19] <Fluburtur> at least this one wont cut out
L340[12:21:23] <Althego> hehe
L341[12:21:26] <Fluburtur> unless the fairings have boosters
L342[12:21:31] <Althego> tehy have rcs
L343[12:21:40] <Fluburtur> propulsive fairing landing
L344[12:21:50] <Fluburtur> after they re-assemble in space
L345[12:22:03] <Althego> funny thing that the first capture of that fairing rcs was done by reds rhetoric, who is an anti flat earther
L346[12:22:29] <Althego> why dont they bother cleaning it a bit?
L347[12:22:39] <Althego> sure the dirt has more drag
L348[12:22:42] <Fluburtur> they give the intern a toothbrush
L349[12:22:47] <Althego> hehe
L350[12:22:59] <Fluburtur> probably not that bad if they leave it
L351[12:23:06] <Fluburtur> just blackened paint
L352[12:23:37] <Fluburtur> this poor lady can't talk
L353[12:23:40] <Althego> yes
L354[12:23:57] <Althego> but why 1 ship for two fairing halves?
L355[12:24:09] <Fluburtur> I guess they aim both at the ship
L356[12:24:18] <Fluburtur> and expect one to fail
L357[12:24:26] <Althego> no, the rcs just keeps reentry orientation because they are unstable
L358[12:24:32] <Fluburtur> they dont want to build another ship and not use it if it doesnt work
L359[12:24:40] <Althego> that is more logical
L360[12:25:07] <Fluburtur> looks like it should glide a bit
L361[12:25:10] <Fluburtur> like a brick
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L363[12:31:31] <Althego> what is this mythical countdown net?
L364[12:31:39] <Althego> there is an alternate view calledl iek it
L365[12:32:58] <Althego> as usual 100k watching
L366[12:33:16] <Althego> even though elon said he wanted to make the returns boring
L367[12:35:26] <Kalpa> Very boring.
L368[12:35:42] <Althego> cameraman is drunk
L369[12:37:03] <Althego> ehehe these kinds of videos rule
L370[12:37:10] <Kalpa> There goes the fairing
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L372[12:37:22] <Althego> as you can see how the booster turns back and flames hit it
L373[12:37:50] <Althego> hehe we could see the boostback ending by those wires
L374[12:37:55] <Kalpa> Yeah
L375[12:38:13] <Althego> hehe see the curve
L376[12:38:21] <Althego> whatever fake cgi :)
L377[12:40:45] <Fluburtur> wow that entry burn view is quite amazing
L378[12:41:22] <Althego> why do they use satellitel ink now?
L379[12:41:28] <Althego> they are like 40 kms away
L380[12:41:31] <Althego> no need for that
L381[12:41:43] <Fluburtur> lazy to set up a new network
L382[12:41:54] <Althego> we have external coverage anyway
L383[12:42:20] <Althego> right on the spot
L384[12:42:23] <Fluburtur> and it booped ont he ship quite nicely
L385[12:44:00] <Althego> eh no satelltie deployment
L386[12:44:10] <Althego> i mean no image of it
L387[12:44:19] <Althego> i wanted to watch it
L388[12:44:25] <Fluburtur> where fairing grab
L389[12:44:55] <Althego> follow twitter...
L390[12:45:51] <Mat2ch> I guess that'll take some time
L391[12:46:00] <Mat2ch> darting through the atmosphere vs. gliding...
L392[12:46:02] <Althego> as they said, about 40 minuets
L393[12:46:39] <Mat2ch> still, a live stream would've been fun to watch
L394[12:46:52] <goblin> hm, interesting, Wikipedia says that "Hohmann transfer orbit is [...] used to transfer between two circular orbits", but MechJeb just used it to transfer me between elliptical ones :-O
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L396[12:50:01] <hoglahoo> wow, sounds like it’s used for more than one thing. mind blown
L397[12:50:48] <goblin> :-D
L398[12:51:07] <Althego> transfer between two elliptic orbits may be more complicated even if they are in the same plane
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L403[12:58:29] <Althego> thsi day was sacrificed to the gods of space and rockets
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L412[13:32:14] <Althego> they did not say what happened to the deployment
L413[13:32:21] <Althego> or the fairing
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L415[13:37:25] <Fluburtur> my dude hard at work https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/485427078964183070/519218887095615489/Screenshot_20181203-113009.jpg
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L417[13:38:03] <Althego> what is this
L418[13:38:10] <Althego> yes a pcb cad desigbn
L419[13:38:14] <Fluburtur> main pcb for my next product
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L421[13:40:15] <Althego> which is a 6 channel what
L422[13:40:30] <Fluburtur> antenna tracker
L423[13:40:35] <Fluburtur> using RSSI
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L426[13:56:02] <Althego> is it music, rail, electrical?
L427[13:58:01] <Fluburtur> what
L428[13:58:11] <Althego> conductor cat
L429[13:58:17] <Althego> what kind of confuctor
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L432[14:09:16] <Mat2ch> so, no fairing catching
L433[14:09:25] <hoglahoo> why not
L434[14:10:09] <Althego> fell into the water
L435[14:10:41] <hoglahoo> darn
L436[14:24:14] <Althego> but supposdly they are going to be reused anyway
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L440[14:32:04] <Althego> why does the nvidia updater need some kind of online account to log in?
L441[14:32:19] <Althego> i happen to have a google account for situations like this
L442[14:32:30] <Althego> but it is still stupid
L443[14:32:41] <Althego> where does it log in?
L444[14:32:43] <Althego> and why?
L445[14:42:28] <Neal> Althego, you can directly download now
L446[14:42:47] <Althego> no such option
L447[14:42:53] <Althego> it asks me for a login and doesnt go further
L448[14:43:02] <Althego> unless of course i bother to look up the driver manually
L449[14:43:03] <Neal> https://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx
L450[14:43:18] <Althego> which i was ever only needed to do for linux
L451[14:43:40] <Neal> ..it takes 10 seconds to fill out
L452[14:43:49] <Althego> but have to check it
L453[14:43:58] <Neal> ?
L454[14:44:03] <Althego> an they update the driver every few wweks
L455[14:44:19] <Althego> that "geforce experience" checks it for me
L456[14:44:34] <Neal> it's not THAT important to keep your gpu drivers up to date
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L458[14:44:52] <Althego> in fact sometimes it is abd
L459[14:44:56] <Althego> bad
L460[14:45:00] <Althego> because they mess up
L461[14:45:06] <Althego> from time to time
L462[14:45:09] <Neal> ...
L463[14:45:19] <Neal> if it's stable now, that probably won't change
L464[14:45:28] <Neal> I've had the same nvidia drivers since july
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L475[15:37:49] <goblin> ok, so for orbital rendezvous algorithm MechJeb uses something like "1. Align planes, 2. Establish new (probably circular) orbit, 3. Intercept with Hohmann transfer, 4. Match velocities at closest approach". This doesn't seem that optimal.
L476[15:38:25] <goblin> I'm thinking two good burns in the right direction at the right times should be better. And it shouldn't be clearly normal or clearly prograde... a mix of the two seems to save fuel
L477[15:40:54] <goblin> maybe 3 burns. With the bi-elliptic magic or something of that sort.
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L483[16:48:42] <Eddi|zuHause> it might be difficult to combine burns, as the plane-adjust burn should be at AN or DN, while the Hohmann transfer burn should be at PE
L484[16:49:36] <Eddi|zuHause> those don't necessarily align with the target location
L485[16:50:23] <darsie> I adjust plane half way through Hohmann transfer.
L486[16:50:33] <darsie> For planetary encounters.
L487[16:50:36] <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, that usually works
L488[16:51:32] <Eddi|zuHause> if your timing is right, you might get to plane adjust at the target location
L489[16:51:53] <darsie> At Pe.
L490[16:52:11] <darsie> possibly by aerobraking.
L491[16:53:09] <Eddi|zuHause> a lot of the "make this more optimal" thing depends on the actual situation, like does the target have gravity (planet/moon), or is the target further in or further out from the current orbit
L492[16:54:09] <Eddi|zuHause> if you're planning a planet intercept from kerbin launch pad, waiting for the right time to launch may be beneficial as you don't have to enter orbit of kerbin
L493[16:54:32] <darsie> For local encounters it's best to launch at AN/DN directly into the right plane. If you are not already in an orbit.
L494[16:56:47] <darsie> dv requirements for interplanetary transfers depend on the constellation at the transfer window. Waiting for a cheaper window is not always desirable.
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L497[17:27:26] <Fluburtur> https://youtu.be/eJW9N-h8UgI?t=36
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L499[17:32:18] <Eddi|zuHause> so basically you hook up a mic to the strings, and pipe that through a distortion app?
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L504[18:46:30] <goblin> yeah but I'm not sure Hohmann transfer on an aligned plane is the best option. Actually it not always is, sometimes e.g. bi-elliptic transfer is better.
L505[18:47:07] <goblin> perhaps matching planes would be better done at closest approach / orbit intersection
L506[18:47:16] <goblin> or some other time
L507[18:47:50] <goblin> i.e. up at the SOI edge for a bi-elliptic transfer or something. I don't know ;-)
L508[18:49:31] <goblin> and circularizing the orbit before Hohmann transfer is almost certainly not optimal
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L533[21:56:42] <Mazura> Looking for cylindrical cargo nose cone from some mod... I forgot which.
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L549[22:58:32] <ksp_love_w_question> hello all
L550[23:00:19] <ksp_love_w_question> how compatible are mods built for 1.4 in the 1.5.1 build?
L551[23:00:44] <Eddi|zuHause> depends on the mod
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L554[23:05:21] <ksp_love_w_question> figures. what about EVE? i never noticed a difference, but i did install a lot of mods at once. definitely doesn't look like i thought. do i need to configure it first?
L555[23:06:27] <ksp_love_w_question> hmm. i'm thinking i probably didn't install it correctly after all. will try again. is there a list of good mods for 1.5.1 like there is on the subreddit for 1.2 anywhere?
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L566[23:50:55] <Althego> eh crs-16 moved
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