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L1[00:04:32] <Althego> again some mars
society videos, now i have to watch them. but first to the
bakery
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L3[00:54:56] <Althego> hmm video about
martian isru but not sabatier reaction
L4[00:57:58] <Althego> and dimethyl ether as
fuel
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L19[03:21:36] <kubi> hi there
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L25[04:05:11] <Althego> hah insight moved
its arm. but it seems the context camera cover was not really doing
a fine job, because even when it is gone there is a lot of dust in
the image
L26[04:06:18] <Eddi|zuHause> get out with
the duster?
L28[04:07:41] <Althego> i want to know how
close were they to the intended target
L29[04:07:58] <Althego> it is big, so
surely the hirise can spot it
L30[04:08:29] <Althego> we really need a
martian gps :)
L31[04:09:33] <Althego> i was trying to
come up with a simple mechanism to remove the dust from the camera.
maybe charge it up, and then it should repeal the dust specks
L32[04:10:06] <Eddi|zuHause> i would assume
that tends to attract more stuff
L33[04:10:27] <Althego> but it also repels
them, because what is on it, and charged up too, they become the
same charge
L34[04:10:41] <Gasher> charge the dust then
reverse polarity?
L35[04:10:43] <Althego> so it attracts
stuff from farther away but removes what is close
L36[04:10:55] <Althego> hehe reverse
polarity, star trek :)
L37[04:10:59] <Althego> it solves
everything
L38[04:11:11] <Gasher> i have never watched
that lol
L39[04:11:51] <Eddi|zuHause> "reverse
the polarity" solves about as many engineering problems as
"it's aliens" solves space mysteries
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L42[04:25:41] <Rolf> eddi I think the
earliest example is in one which inventor sets it to wrong polarity
and tried to turn cloud to rain
L43[04:25:49] <Rolf> shattered tons of
glass
L44[04:25:57] <Rolf> it was 1960s
movie
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L47[04:33:41] <Althego> finally finished
this annoying game
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L49[04:34:54] <Althego> surprisingly the
boss wasnt even that hard
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L56[05:03:01] <Gasher> Althego, ?
L57[05:08:05] <Althego> dead space
L58[05:08:34] <Althego> honestly for
spaceship zombies stasis is much better
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L67[05:37:36] <Epppi> some of those look
amazingly well done
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L72[06:04:15] <Rolf> ah the old utah
teapot
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L76[06:54:09] <Mat2ch> uhm, ok?
L77[06:54:37] <Fluburtur> my uncle
purchased a small house, previous owner had some stuff
L78[06:54:48] <Fluburtur> I have a bunch of
nitro engines now
L80[06:58:50] <Mat2ch> nice!
L81[06:58:59] <Fluburtur> there is also a
tiny nitro spitfire
L82[06:59:12] <Fluburtur> and what looks
like a p47 that is mostly complete
L83[06:59:30] <Fluburtur> and a cessna kit
with a fiber fuselage that shouldnt be hard to get flying
L85[07:02:15] <Fluburtur> im probably gonna
make the bipe electric
L86[07:02:26] <Fluburtur> just yesterday I
was saying to a friend "I would like a small bipe
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L88[07:06:06] <Fluburtur> the bipe looks
like a WWI plane
L89[07:06:22] <Fluburtur> however fokker
planes have a different rudder so it couldbe british
L90[07:07:43] <Fluburtur> looks like a
nieuport 23
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L131[13:40:54] <kmath> YouTube - Diamonds
are NOT Forever: Burning Diamond - ElementalMaker
L132[13:41:25] <Althego> rhunderf00t
already burned a small diamond
L133[13:41:28] <Althego> *thunder
L134[13:42:03] <Fluburtur> it is my
friends birthsay tomorrow so I printed him a soyuz to hang from the
tree
L135[13:42:11] <Althego> hehe
L136[13:42:17] <Althego> soyuz christmas
tree ornament
L137[13:42:23] <Fluburtur> yeah
L138[13:42:30] <Fluburtur> I probably have
time to paint it as well
L139[13:42:49] <Fluburtur> at least make
it green
L141[13:43:36] <Fluburtur> the old
fashioned style
L142[13:43:54] <Fluburtur> new ones are
grey and white
L144[13:44:23] <Althego> doesnt look very
green
L145[13:45:04] <Fluburtur> I could leave
it orange so idk
L146[13:45:04] <Althego> i used the yt
search nasa insight. 2 flat earther videos in top 10 saying it is
fake
L147[13:45:21] <Fluburtur> probs better to
make it look somewaht scale
L148[13:45:38] <Althego> banana for scale
:)
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L150[14:02:14] <Fluburtur> time to find
printable adapters to put rc parts and lego together
L151[14:03:47] <Althego> i just thought of
something
L152[14:04:01] <Althego> how does a probe
landing on mars know its airspeed?
L153[14:04:08] <Althego> from inertial
measurements?
L154[14:04:23] <Althego> because it has to
open the parachute at a specific speed
L155[14:04:33] <Althego> but it doesnt
have the radar then
L156[14:04:47] <Althego> and no way you
could put a pitot probe in the plasma
L157[14:05:13] <Fluburtur> maybe initial
speed and then acceleration?
L158[14:05:21] <Althego> that is the
inertial method
L159[14:05:42] <Althego> the problem is
you are transitioning from a coordinate system centered around the
sun to one locked to the planet
L160[14:05:52] <Althego> is that precise
enough?
L161[14:06:40] <Fluburtur> idk
L162[14:07:54] <UmbralRaptor> There are
detailed writeups of EDL somewhere, but I don't have the links on
hand.
L163[14:08:04] <Fluburtur> I guess I could
make a lego to brushless adapter where to shaft comes from the back
of the motor and it has a printed egar on there
L164[14:08:29] <Fluburtur> but I want the
shaft to be supported a both ends given it will be subjected to
pretty ridiculous torque
L165[14:09:50] <Althego> it took me years
to realize that the MERs used machine vision to measure their speed
and correct before airbag landing. it took eme month to realize
curiosity made a movie of landing, one of the most amazing videos
ever. i wonder what i missed with insight
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L168[14:16:15] <Althego> i still couldnt
find out how big the landing position error was
L169[14:16:23] <Althego> they should know
it already
L170[14:17:26] <Althego> meanwhile
opportunity is almost certainly dea
L171[14:17:26] <Althego> d
L172[14:17:39] <Althego> so sad, it looked
possible to survive that dust storm
L173[14:18:06] <Fluburtur> they just need
to send someone with a car battery to jump start it
L174[14:18:13] <Althego> hehe
L175[14:18:40] <Althego> future mark
watneys are going to need materials for emergency communication
:)
L176[14:25:05] <UmbralRaptor> "Here,
we use updated information to revise the calculated density of
CoRoT-3 b from 26.4 to 16.1 ± 3.98 g cm−3. We also report the
densest exoplanet in our data set, KELT-1 b, with a density of
${22.1}_{-9.16}^{+5.62}\,{\rm{g}}\,{\mathrm{cm}}^{-3}$."
L177[14:25:16] <UmbralRaptor> Ꙩ_ꙩ
L178[14:25:35] <Althego> hehe
L179[14:25:45] <Althego> what is that,
latex?
L180[14:25:51] <UmbralRaptor> yeah
L181[14:26:29] <UmbralRaptor> I'm just
surprised by the densities (and size of the errors)
L182[14:26:50] <Althego> 22.1?
L183[14:26:54] <Althego> that is kind of
dense
L184[14:27:20] <UmbralRaptor> Just a
bit.
L185[14:27:50] <Althego> wait, that is
around, what, platinum?
L186[14:27:56] <Althego> no, even
higher
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L188[14:30:07] <UmbralRaptor> osmium,
iridium, etc
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L192[14:41:20] <kmath> YouTube - RC.
EXTREME micro sloping.
L193[14:41:46] <Althego> lol
L194[14:41:48] <Althego> it is micro
L195[14:41:57] <Althego> like 1 m above
ground
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L197[14:54:34] <Althego> btw this latest
xkcd is horrible
L198[15:10:11] <Fluburtur> after several
hours, I finally printed a tiny soyuz that takes only 40
minutes
L199[15:13:58] <Althego> tomorrow
spacex
L200[15:14:05] <Althego> the 64 sat
payload
L201[15:15:29] <darsie> rly?
L202[15:15:40] <Althego> o rly? ya
rly
L203[15:16:06] <UmbralRaptor> Althego:
puns!
L204[15:16:10] <Althego> these are tiny
sats, one company took all these micro sats and hired spacex to
launc hthem
L205[15:16:39] <Althego> the poodle with
dual nozzles is still heresy
L206[15:17:13] <darsie> Ohh, I thought it
was about teh Spacex internet sats.
L208[15:18:22] <Althego> this way they may
be even cheaper than electron
L209[15:19:03] <darsie> F9 is definitely
cheaper if you have the volume/mass.
L210[15:20:05] <Althego> yes but it cant
really launch tiny payloads
L211[15:20:08] <UmbralRaptor> A dual
nozzle poodle lets you cook pizzas with and without pineapple at
the same time!
L212[15:20:15] <Althego> lol
L213[15:20:56] <UmbralRaptor> The second
nozzle is still going to raise questions about rotational control,
though.
L214[15:21:51] <Althego> the other similar
instances in the base game are multiple engines and they have
rotational control
L215[15:21:55] <Althego> but this is a
single engine
L216[15:21:59] <Althego> we will see
L217[15:24:51] <APlayer> Yay for SpaceX
creating even moar space debis!
L218[15:25:02] <Althego> hehe
L219[15:25:36] <APlayer> Isn't that what
we all love and want?
L220[15:25:51] <Althego> every satellite
is future space debris
L221[15:26:28] <Althego> hehe reminds me
of a line from 2 stupid dogs: oh, my future ex wife
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L223[15:26:55] <APlayer> No, seriously. If
you launch a few sats per week and a few sats per week reenter,
that's fine. But why do you launch 64 sats at once? With long term
plans for a multiple thousand sat constellation in the future? No
concerns about debris?
L224[15:27:00] <UmbralRaptor> As long as
they deorbit in a timely manner.
L225[15:27:19] <Althego> probably low
earth orbit
L226[15:27:27] <Althego> so they are going
to fall down
L227[15:27:31] *
UmbralRaptor eyes that ISRO launch of >100 sats
L228[15:27:38] <Althego> hehe
L229[15:27:52] <APlayer> So apparently we
have quantity over quality nowadays
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L247[17:52:58] <Eddi|zuHause>
<APlayer> No, seriously. If you launch a few sats per week
and a few sats per week reenter, that's fine. <-- that's like if
you'd called a car manufacturer 100 years ago and told them
"only make a few cars per week"
L248[17:54:18] <Eddi|zuHause> just
extrapolate from that, that we'll have a few hundred million
(active) satellites orbiting in 100 years
L249[18:03:05] <Eddi|zuHause> (let's just
hope we found a way to use regenerative fuels for rockets by
then)
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L252[18:15:20] <darsie> Will we manage to
make Dyson sphere?
L253[18:15:50] <darsie> or will orbital
debris prevent it?
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L255[18:20:49] <Eddi|zuHause> that's a
tiny bit more than a 100 years out, i'm afraid
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L269[20:14:50] <lordcirth_> We can *start*
making a Dyson Sphere any time. And use the energy to power the
construction of the rest
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L275[21:58:23] <Eddi|zuHause> if by
"start" you count "put something with a solar panel
in orbit of the sun", then yes, we can probably do
that...
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L277[22:00:33] <lordcirth_> Well, and be
able to beam the power back, I think
L278[22:02:24] <Eddi|zuHause> that might
be somewhat trickier, especially if you want the returned energy to
be larger than the amount used to get it there
L279[22:04:23] <lordcirth_> Alternatively,
have the satellites form laser propulsion systems.
L280[22:04:40] <lordcirth_> Since you're
going to incur transmission losses anyway.
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L283[22:15:42] <Rolf> less with recenneta
whatever thats spelled
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L285[22:40:04] <lordcirth_>
rectenna?
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