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L1[00:01:23] <mischief> god damnit haha
L2[00:01:35] <mischief> you cant even deploy the solar panel if you run out of battery
L3[00:01:43] <mischief> so stupid xD
L4[00:02:08] <mischief> need erm.. backup battery in the solar panel.
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L9[00:18:47] <JVFoxy> mischief you can disable the battery in the core... as a backup
L10[00:19:05] <mischief> its the only battery
L11[00:19:07] <JVFoxy> I think you can re-enable if you run out of power...
L12[00:19:14] <mischief> im using the one with the 1k battery builtin
L13[00:19:18] <JVFoxy> ah well thats not good..
L14[00:19:22] <JVFoxy> ah..
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L16[00:26:43] <Draconiator> One of the wriedest rumors I've herard about LEDs is that they are reverse-engineered alien technology
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L18[00:29:34] <Althego> lol
L19[00:29:38] <Althego> maybe the blue leds :)
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L21[00:31:52] <mischief> Draconiator: yeah, and bell labs didn't invent transistors >_>
L22[00:44:51] <JVFoxy> Men in Black RPG books sorta mentions most tech was from aliens
L23[00:53:06] <Althego> hah, but there are no aliens on the flat earth
L24[00:57:40] <JVFoxy> you noticed how prevalent things been getting too? I cant' tell if they doing it for fun, trolling to be a pain to everyone else, or being legit serious
L25[00:58:22] <Althego> the front liners are doing it for money. the second line is doing it because they believe it. and there are some trolls too
L26[01:00:04] <JVFoxy> someone on one of the mars landing streams was being pretty mean about things..
L27[01:00:33] <Althego> i didnt even try to look at the chat, it was just scrolling too fast
L28[01:03:31] <JVFoxy> ah.. ya nasa one's were. the other, myspace wasn't quite as fast
L29[01:11:48] <Althego> since curiosity there are some people saying it is a lie
L30[01:21:06] <JVFoxy> believe what they will... they seem pretty hard set on things. -shrug
L31[01:21:56] <Althego> the worst thing is when they said that the genuine happiness of all the people in the control room after curiosity landed is just bad acting
L32[01:22:48] <JVFoxy> the constant nagging 'everything is a lie'... and some of the verbal attacks
L33[01:23:07] <Althego> that is why some call the flat earthers globe deniers
L34[01:27:22] <JVFoxy> I've got enough going on in my head... all i can say, glad teh lander make it sefely
L35[01:27:30] <JVFoxy> *safely
L36[01:30:30] <JVFoxy> any case... rest.. lates
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L38[01:41:30] <mischief> ok, got a satellite to duna.
L39[01:41:56] <mischief> completed the mission, and got science, including survey scan and atomosphere analysis.
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L68[07:35:33] <darsie> yeah
L69[07:35:45] <darsie> There should be orbital debris cleanup missions.
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L71[07:36:20] <darsie> ofc may would create more debris :).
L72[07:36:24] <darsie> many*
L73[07:45:39] <Mat2ch> well, there's really some research going on why the em drive may work and the science behind it. Wendelstein is producing more and better results. So we may get a fusion powered em drive system some day that cleans up debris
L74[07:52:21] <UmbralRaptor> AIUI, Wendelstein is right now where JET was, So we'd need stellerator equivalents of ITER, Proto, and Demo. Maybe in the 22nd or 23rd century?
L75[08:08:36] <UmbralRaptor> (Plus the need to get reactor mass down, so a spacecraft would need a generation or more of design improvements after viable power reactors)
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L107[12:03:23] <Fluburtur> https://66.media.tumblr.com/463e3498bc6f97e41de966b377e48158/tumblr_p80gi8l91p1qfji8ro1_500.jpg
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L109[12:06:16] <BPlayer> Unsettlingly relate-able
L110[12:06:42] <Fluburtur> I think everyone on the internet has depression and serious social issues
L111[12:11:27] <Fluburtur> https://66.media.tumblr.com/bcb0bbbbc98d96b38dde43ecc24b7cf2/tumblr_piprmzswxR1uskp9t_540.png
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L113[12:16:24] <petti> I like turn signals on my car and others too
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L118[12:31:55] <BPlayer> I I always thought that turn signals are just another gimmick to get to your money, but recently I found out that they actually make decent Christmas illumination
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L123[13:04:49] <Mat2ch> again no video. Ts
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L125[13:21:06] <Eddi|zuHause> graphics card still running after 24h...
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L128[13:44:53] <BPlayer> Eddi: Are you chasing it, or why is it running?
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L130[14:01:30] <Eddi|zuHause> yes
L131[14:01:49] <Eddi|zuHause> i tried to catch it with the oven, but it managed to escape
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L136[14:28:23] <mischief> Eddi|zuHause: did you actually put it in the oven
L137[14:29:48] <BPlayer> It's still running, so likely not
L138[14:30:27] <mischief> BPlayer: uh, i've actually heard from questinable sources that some people really do that to fix their video cards
L139[14:30:28] <BPlayer> Unless it has a hamster wheel in the oven, at which point the whole jokes reaches an extraordinary level of silly
L140[14:30:46] <mischief> some hand waving about reflowing the solder joints
L141[14:30:58] <BPlayer> Wut
L142[14:31:20] <mischief> BPlayer: google 'video card oven'.
L143[14:31:23] <BPlayer> That's plain stupid
L144[14:31:46] <BPlayer> For every GPU it fixes, it probably kills another 10 and a few ovens
L145[14:31:59] <mischief> sure, it's a bit idiotic
L146[14:32:12] <mischief> but reflow ovens are actually useful equipment
L147[14:32:26] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231106102693986314/517436016689152011/20181128212508_1.jpg
L148[14:33:12] <mischief> Fluburtur: wow, kerbal space program got very realistic!
L149[14:33:17] <BPlayer> I do not happen to have a reflow oven, but I can resort to a hot air gun, or whatever you call those, in some cases
L150[14:33:44] <BPlayer> If anything, careful and precise application of heat may fix stuff
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L153[14:55:35] <Deddly> I have done that to a video card
L154[14:57:20] <Deddly> I had a laptop that I loved but it was known for eating the GPU. This was a Dell XPX M2010, a monster of a machine and it had a GPU that could actually be removed and replaced, but the replacements were so expensive that I thought I'd give the oven a try.
L155[14:59:33] <Deddly> I remember pulling the main chip from the card and putting it in the oven for a while. When I took it out and had allowed it to cool, I applied some thermal paste to the chip and replaced it, but the card back in the laptop and hey, presto, it worked
L156[15:01:02] <Deddly> It lasted for months and months (actually longer than a refurbished replacement card I had previously bought and used) until I decided to play Minecraft on the machine and that pushed the GPU too hard making it overheat and die again. By that time I was fed up enough to replace the whole machine.
L157[15:01:30] <Deddly> Thus ended my brief stray away from Thingpads
L158[15:01:35] <Deddly> Thinkpads*
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L160[15:09:16] <sandbox> I've got an old broken 8800gts that almost certainly could be fixed in the oven
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L163[15:32:37] <Guest27614> is anyone here?
L164[15:32:45] <BPlayer> Of course not.
L165[15:32:48] * BPlayer hides
L166[15:33:05] <Guest27614> I am having a real stupid issue here, can anyone help?
L167[15:33:18] <BPlayer> Not unless you tell us what the issue is. ;-)
L168[15:33:25] <Guest27614> I'm not a tech savvy guy here, but this issue is pissing me off
L169[15:33:34] <Guest27614> Ok
L170[15:33:47] <Guest27614> I'm trying to build a rocket in the game on ps4
L171[15:34:15] <Guest27614> When trying to build the rocket, it wont allow me to select and pick something with x button?
L172[15:34:23] <BPlayer> Also, please do not use strong language in this chat, we enjoy the reputation of being very family friendly. :-)
L173[15:34:35] <Guest27614> Oooops, ok. sorry
L174[15:35:12] <BPlayer> Unfortunately I only use the Windows version of KSP, so I am not sure how to fix your issue. But if you hang around for some time, other people that might help will show up.
L175[15:35:25] <Guest27614> ok, thanks
L176[15:37:46] <Guest27614> I think I will try right from the beginning, see what I may be missing. Thanks for the offer though
L177[15:39:12] <BPlayer> Does it usually work with the X button? Otherwise a possibility is that your controls are set up differently than you expect. You may check that in the settings of the game.
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L192[16:52:12] <Guest70781> i see on alot of mod description that module manager is recommand but where do i install a mod manager?
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L195[17:19:50] <Shadow> hello guys
L196[17:22:23] <UmbralRaptor> greetings
L197[17:23:19] <Shadow> I am trying figure out the flag thing
L198[17:23:39] <Shadow> They say I am the only one experiencing it so I am installing a new safe file
L199[17:24:45] <UmbralRaptor> makes sense
L200[17:24:57] <Shadow> im gonna get to the bottom of this bs
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L202[17:26:46] <Shadow> https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/179896-flags-lost-i-am-a-bit-disgusted-by-squad/
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L205[17:33:11] <Shadow> im back
L206[17:33:19] <Shadow> not sure if anyone posted anything yet
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L208[17:36:18] <hoglahoo> can’t help ya, I still play on 1.2.2
L209[17:39:45] <Shadow> I really hope I am wrong and its just part of the game. I dont think its the save file
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L211[17:55:02] <Shadow> yep its ther
L212[17:55:08] <Shadow> problem is not me
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L215[18:13:30] <Shadow> I made a video
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L218[18:26:49] <Eddi|zuHause> hm, i have 2.200 research, and i have 3 sols left to reach 10000
L219[18:27:00] <Eddi|zuHause> i don't think i'm gonna make it :p
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L221[18:29:50] <Shadow> I still love the game
L222[18:29:59] <Shadow> However I cant play unless I fix this issue :(
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L227[18:44:53] <Shadow> can I share video here?
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L229[18:45:39] <hoglahoo> I wish you would
L230[18:46:07] <Shadow> il just upload it on youtube and share it
L231[18:46:19] <Shadow> please watch it and help me fix it. Please :(
L232[18:46:47] <jgkamat> something something backup something
L233[18:47:39] <Shadow> https://youtu.be/Xz2wx1VEoH8
L234[18:47:39] <kmath> YouTube - Kerbal Space Program Flag issue
L235[18:48:13] <Shadow> give it time. I just uploaded it
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L237[18:49:57] <jgkamat> I don't understand what they think is wrong -_-
L238[18:52:23] <hoglahoo> I think I understand
L239[18:54:07] <hoglahoo> whenever he goes to look at the flag from the tracking center to ‘fly’ it, it’s like the flag is in flight. so if he then goes back to the tracking center, the planted ‘flying’ flag disappears because the game thinks the ‘flight’ was reverted/unsaved when he went back to the tracking center
L240[19:05:10] <Eddi|zuHause> hm, so if i throw everything into science, i get about 6000 :/
L241[19:06:57] <Eddi|zuHause> also, apparently the mystery breakthrough doesn't count towards "research 5 breakthroughs"
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L243[19:19:08] <Shadow> Still waiting for a response
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L258[20:32:12] <Glass|phone> I need a scripting language for my game and might have to create my own
L259[20:33:36] <UmbralRaptor> No good way to use lua or python?
L260[20:34:01] <Glass|phone> I tried lua
L261[20:34:25] <Glass|phone> indexes start at 1
L262[20:35:08] <Glass|phone> no ternary operator, you're told to use 'cond and a or b' instead
L263[20:35:55] <VanDisaster> why is that a problem
L264[20:36:07] <VanDisaster> the index starting at 1 is quite annoying, I have to admit
L265[20:36:28] <Glass|phone> lua bitwise operators don't work on booleans, and I have to transpile legacy script expressions written by people unaware of the difference between | and ||
L266[20:39:04] <Glass|phone> I'm not sure what exactly the dealbreaker was but there was one thing I wanted to present to the user as zero-based, and having the script language differ would be stupid
L267[20:39:37] <Glass|phone> also, I would have to write an insanity-friendly version of every API method that takes an index
L268[20:39:41] * darsie wonders how hard it would be for an AI to play KSP.
L269[20:40:50] <Glass|phone> darsie: split it up into 'parsing contracts', 'generating rockets' and 'setting up mechjeb' and it seems doable
L270[20:42:27] <darsie> Goals could be to complete the tech tree, make 100 MVF, get surface samples from each body, do each type of contract (they are identified by the first word).
L271[20:44:13] <Glass|phone> I'd first try to make it just identify profitable contracts it can fulfill right now
L272[20:44:43] <Glass|phone> early game grind is the same regardless of goals
L273[20:56:05] <Glass|phone> UmbralRaptor: I also have a weird requirement to be able to define formulas and only evaluate them when their inputs change. could be done in lua using static code analysis but at that point I've already written a parser
L274[20:57:11] <UmbralRaptor> hrm
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