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L8[00:53:25] <Althego> next week will be
busy on the iss again, soyuz and dragon
L9[00:54:20] <Althego> oh wait a sec,
chinese rover to the moon? that could be interesting. too bad they
are not going to broadcast it
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L22[03:12:23] <Eddi|zuHause> what ever
happened to that PT Scientist rover?
L23[03:13:36] <Eddi|zuHause> (last news i
remember was that they missed some launch window and were not
eligible for google funds anymore)
L24[03:18:00] <mischief> crazy coincidence
that i started playing ksp a bit again
L25[03:18:14] <mischief> and now i'm going
to interview at a company making telecommunication satellites
L26[03:32:10] <Eddi|zuHause> GlassYuri:
OpenTTD uses Squirrel as scripting language, no idea whether that
is a sane chouce.
L27[03:39:21] <mischief> with some work,
you can make lua 0-based.
L28[03:39:41] <mischief> though i wouldn't
recommend it.
L29[03:40:06] <mischief> implementing your
own language is nontrivial
L30[03:40:15] <mischief> i would know since
i'm doing it right now -_-
L31[03:42:35] <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, writing
a parser is the smallest problem :p
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L33[03:43:53] <mischief> i actually just
implemented stack traces for errors
L34[03:44:07] <mischief> mildly
painful
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L44[04:45:41] <mischief> 5 minute burn with
this dinky xenon thruster :|
L45[05:01:16] <AIwrk> mischief, lol i
thought it was a derogatory word but it seems that it just means
"tiny"
L46[05:02:52] <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, there's
no way a word for "tiny person" would ever be
derogatory.
L47[05:03:20] <AIwrk> in this context
L48[05:04:15] <AIwrk> "this computer
is so tiny that it could almost fit into a room!"
L49[05:04:20] <Eddi|zuHause> in the new SJW
reading, if it's derogatory in one context, it's automatically
derogatory in all contexts
L50[05:04:44] <mischief> my new relay
satellite is up.
L51[05:04:51] <mischief> still have
5200/5700 xenon @_@
L52[05:05:03] <AIwrk> Eddi|zuHause, it's
not funny lol
L53[05:05:07] <mischief> maybe i should
have put 4 xenon engines instead of 1.
L54[05:05:33] <Eddi|zuHause> AIwrk: note
that i have no clue which word you're actually talking about
L55[05:06:02] <AIwrk> em, what?
L56[05:06:18] <sandbox> Dinky the
dinosaur
L57[05:06:28] <mischief> how hard is it to
bring asteroids home?
L58[05:07:06] <AIwrk> mischief, depends on
size
L59[05:07:08] <Eddi|zuHause> you mean land
at the launchpad?
L60[05:07:28] <Eddi|zuHause> or just
"orbit in kerbin SOI"
L61[05:07:33] <mischief> there's a proposed
mission to bring a class E to orbit the mun
L62[05:07:48] <mischief> and i see a class
E in the tracking station that is not too far away from kerbin
currently
L63[05:08:15] <Eddi|zuHause> does it
already have a kerbin PE?
L64[05:08:33] <AIwrk> E class: 854 ~ 3,828
tons
L65[05:08:49] <mischief> no, it's orbiting
the sun
L66[05:08:59] <mischief> maybe 500 million
miles away right now
L67[05:09:07] <mischief> err
L68[05:09:13] <mischief> meters.
L69[05:09:17] <Eddi|zuHause> that makes it
a bit more difficult
L70[05:09:59] <Eddi|zuHause> *and i would
walk 500 million miles/and i would walk 500 million more*
L71[05:10:18] <Eddi|zuHause> doesn't work
on the metrum :p
L72[05:18:28] <mischief> so, should i use
the nuclear engine to tow the class E?
L73[05:20:46] <AIwrk> em, i suggest
designing a ship first
L74[05:21:09] <mischief> sure but is the
nuclear engine ideal for such a task?
L75[05:24:23] <AIwrk> TWR will be very
small
L77[05:26:03] <mischief> :|
L78[05:26:16] <Althego> lol
L79[05:26:22] <Althego> why
L80[05:26:43] <mischief> idk, some thing i
found on the forum looking for asteroid haulers.
L81[05:26:49] <Althego> this looks like my
early duna landers
L82[05:32:16] <mischief> maybe i should try
a bitty asteroid instead of class e first :p
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L85[05:59:06] <Eddi|zuHause> hm, no idea
why, but i tried starting Civ VI and it's extremely laggy and
choppy sound
L86[05:59:52] <Eddi|zuHause> why are the
engines angled outwards like that?
L87[06:01:06] <AIwrk> yeah it's just pure
loss
L88[06:01:33] <mischief> crap
L89[06:01:52] <mischief> how can i fix SAS
control if my pod is inverted?
L90[06:02:07] <mischief> the rcs and
reaction wheels are going the wrong way
L91[06:16:13] <Eddi|zuHause> still not
understand why it's choppy... only uses like 50% of one CPU
core
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L94[06:18:52] <Eddi|zuHause> (this is still
in the main menu, so no fancy graphics or anything)
L95[06:20:12] <Eddi|zuHause> according to
perf top, most time is spent in the kernel doing
"read_hpet" and "cpu_idle_poll"
L96[06:21:51] <mischief> probably calling
gettimeofday every 0.1ns :)
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L99[07:06:09] <GlassYuri> Eddi|zuHause,
squirrel name conflicts with an update manager and an animal,
out
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L102[07:09:01] <Eddi|zuHause> GlassYuri:
but code files are called "nut" and importing a file is
called "hoard" :p
L103[07:10:08] <GlassYuri> when I was
researching how to implement your own earlier there was an example
which used 'derp' to declare variables and '====' as the equality
operator
L104[07:11:54] <GlassYuri> these 100 yen
earphones I bought today have some of the worst sound quality I
ever experienced in my life
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L116[08:40:37] <Eddi|zuHause> GlassYuri:
don't ever buy cheap audio equipment. never worth it
L117[08:43:26] <GlassYuri> Eddi|zuHause, I
mainly bought them for use in school, where sound quality doesn't
matter as long as it drowns out most of the noise
L118[08:44:18] <Eddi|zuHause> get
noise-cancelling headphones :)
L119[08:45:09] <GlassYuri> and carry them
with me all the time until the cables die
L120[08:45:10] <GlassYuri> ?
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L123[08:59:12] <Eddi|zuHause> i'm sure
they have wireless ones :p
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L132[10:17:25] <GlassYuri> the C#
reference calls 'a & b' the 'logical AND' and 'a && b'
the 'conditional AND'
L133[10:17:58] <GlassYuri> I thought
&& was called logical and & bitwise
L134[10:18:27] <UmbralRaptor> difference
between C# and C++?
L135[10:18:48] <Eddi|zuHause> one is a
musical note and the other a "real" programming language
;)
L136[10:19:36] <Eddi|zuHause> GlassYuri:
possibly difference in short/full evaluation?
L137[10:19:39] <GlassYuri> UmbralRaptor,
funny how the operators *do* the same but the definition seems to
be different to account for language differences
L138[10:20:08] <UmbralRaptor>
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L139[10:20:31] <GlassYuri> didn't &
originally just mean bitwise and then was extended to also mean
full evaluation in languages that don't explicitely cast booleans
to integers?
L141[10:22:18] <GlassYuri> the C# spec
explicitely says that it does full evaluation on booleans but my
limited C(++) knowledge tells me that full evaluation is that for
those languages full evaluation is just the implicit result of
using booleans as ints
L142[10:22:51] <darsie> Umm, useless
cable. There's one for 9.24 USD without it.
L143[10:24:22] <GlassYuri> also why are
*/% at the same priority level but &^| each have their own
(this seems to be common to all (sane) c-style syntax
languages)
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L148[10:51:55] <Eddi|zuHause> so, i dug
deep into pulseaudio settings, is less choppy now, but game is
still extremely slow
L149[10:53:11] <Eddi|zuHause> (game being
civ6)
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L153[10:58:00] <Eddi|zuHause> that's
probably making decent holes
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L157[11:01:11] <kmath> YouTube - Kip
McKagan - One-Man Movie
L158[11:04:16] <Gasher> Fluburtur, i have
read in the news about a man using a cannon shell to repair his car
- he tried to use it as punch
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L175[12:56:37] <Mat2ch> ok, seems like
we're not getting a video this week either. I wonder what's
up
L176[12:56:41] <Draconiator>
uhhhh....
L177[12:57:03] <Draconiator> the guy that
wrote this is SUPPOSED to be a Toms Hardware senior forum
mod.
L178[12:57:04] <hoglahoo> of what
L179[12:57:08] <Draconiator> You cannot
use SSD as RAM.
L180[12:57:08] <Draconiator> Placing the
pagefile on the SSD will slow down your PC since SSD is slower than
a HDD.
L181[12:57:31] <snow> o.O
L182[12:57:32] <Mat2ch> eh, yep, by a 1000
times. At least.
L183[12:57:45] <Mat2ch> also it will
cripple your ssd very soon
L184[12:57:56] <snow> well, guess I'll be
getting rid of the SSDs in my SANs then, as they turn out to just
be slowing things down
L185[12:58:28] <snow> if there's a
conspiracy involving storage vendors, do we get to refer to them as
Big Data?
L186[13:03:18] <Mat2ch> ?
L187[13:04:52] <snow> we've got "big
pharma", "big tobacco", etc.
L188[13:05:22] <snow> but big data is its
own bit of IT jargon. It wasn't a great joke. >.>
L189[13:06:10] <snow> also, SSDs are
definitely faster than HDDs, pagefiles on SSD won't kill your SSD
because they're mostly read from, and don't get a lot of writes to
them
L190[13:25:49] <APlayer> Uh, the main
reason people buy SSDs is precisely because they are faster than
HDDs...
L191[13:26:15] <APlayer> SSDs are
definitely slower than RAM, though
L192[13:31:12] <kubi> ooois it mostly
reading from pagefile/swap?
L193[13:31:37] <kubi> btw, who needs swap
nowadays?
L194[13:31:59] <kubi> I have 8 gig in my
desktop
L195[13:32:08] <kubi> I not use any
swap
L196[13:32:34] <snow> it is mostly read,
yeah
L197[13:32:34] <kubi> I do not extend the
memory, because my whole system is old, so it would be just a waste
of money
L198[13:33:05] <snow> also, paging things
that aren't being used means more ram available for file caching,
which speeds things up as well
L199[13:33:33] <kubi> but do you have so
much data in RAM that would need this?
L200[13:33:46] <kubi> note that code is
not in the swap
L201[13:35:33] <kubi> I'm really looking
forward Intel's Optane technology (or similar) to be
available
L202[13:36:45] <hoglahoo> isnt it
already
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L204[13:40:30] <kubi> well
L205[13:40:56] <kubi> I can't afford a
machine usign optane as RAM :)
L206[13:42:00] <hoglahoo> ah
L207[13:44:56] <kubi> what I want is to
have a smaller machine
L208[13:45:09] <kubi> the ATX form factor
is not my friend
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L210[13:51:57] <snow> 19" >
*
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L227[15:28:19] <kmath> YouTube - The
Radioactive Alternative To The X-15 - Faster, Higher, Cheaper. The
Douglas D-684
L228[16:00:43] <goblin> is there a Rover
autopilot (MechJeb? kOS? other?) that would take terrain into
account and slow down / perform jumps accurately?
L229[16:04:27] <Eddi|zuHause> how would
that even work?
L230[16:05:12] <goblin> Eddi|zuHause, it'd
examine the body's map ahead of your current path
L231[16:06:51] <goblin> haven't tested
yet, but perhaps kOS's GEOPOSITIONLATLNG, which returns a
GeoCoordinates structure, could be used for this. GeoCoordinates
contains TERRAINHEIGHT which could be used to predict whether
you'll crash into something
L232[16:07:18] <goblin> but if that
doesn't work, you could always run a probe in polar orbit and
gather all the height data into a file
L233[16:07:51] <goblin> if kOS doesn't
support databases, then data from that file could be fed to it via
telnet or something
L234[16:09:08] <goblin> but perhaps I'm
missing the point, maybe with better wheels and/or design one could
just drive at full speed and not worry about hills at all?
L236[16:16:54] <Eddi|zuHause> i still
don't see it actually working
L237[16:18:37] <goblin> APlayer,
interesting, thanks! It seems it just emulates roving, without
actually driving the vehicle though
L238[16:18:46] <goblin> (as it does it in
the background?)
L239[16:18:53] <APlayer> No idea
L240[16:19:10] <APlayer> I never tried it
myself, just remember it from a mod browsing session
L241[16:19:17] <goblin> cheers :-)
L242[16:21:55] <goblin> Eddi|zuHause, I
do. It'd have to learn the acceleration possibilities of your
rover, and how hard a hit it can withstand when landing or
approaching an inclination change. It'd also need to know the max
drivable slope, and drive around mountains if they're undoable. All
this would need the knowledge of the terrain way ahead
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L251[17:28:31] <lordcirth> BARIS seems
pretty cool, going to try it out. Anyone else use it?
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L255[18:12:57] <Eddi|zuHause> how
different is that from Paris?
L256[18:13:30] <lordcirth> lol. It's a
part failure mod, among other things
L257[18:13:53] <lordcirth> It doesn't just
turn parts off, though - they can explode if you're really
unlucky
L258[18:14:27] <lordcirth> I love
Kerbalism but it's reliability system doesn't do much
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L262[18:37:31] <darsie> Tourists can not
go on EVA, except from external command seats.
L263[19:40:57] <Eddi|zuHause> that seems
like some sort of bug/oversight?
L264[19:41:13] <Eddi|zuHause> probably
tourists shouldn't be able to go on command seats either
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L267[20:31:36] <lordcirth> So, KRASH got
stuck on... every launch was a sim..
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L269[21:17:22] <Eddi|zuHause> that
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L277[21:58:23] <darsie> limited time only
:)
L278[21:58:41] <darsie> Till new
regulations kick in.
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