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L3[00:24:06] <JVFoxy> simple rocket, single
crew, docking port jr. on the nose. Was built for a 'station
building mission'. I don't remember why I named it 'Thumbtack' a
while ago.
L4[00:24:50] <JVFoxy> although, now I think
about it.... pinning a ship to the side of a station, kind of like
pushing a thumbtack into the wall?
L5[00:26:24] <JVFoxy> oh wait.. named that
because of the shape, was meant to go with a booster already in
orbit. Frontier was meant for the station, RCS system
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L7[01:03:30] <Althego> launch in less than 2
hours
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L11[01:38:07] <Eddi|zuHause> lunch in less
than 2 hours would be a tiny bit early? :p
L12[01:39:03] <Althego> not too much
L13[01:39:24] <Althego> when i dont eat
breakfast i eat lunch at 11
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L15[01:42:33] <Althego> hehe godless
engineer with flat earth again, the video he was talking
aboutaccidentally had some ksp pictures in it, because it was
demonstrating how you cant find real pictures of the solar
system
L17[01:44:41] <JVFoxy> .... pictures of the
solar system, as in with planets moving around on tracks?
L18[01:44:52] <Rolf> or plates on train
tracks lol
L19[01:45:00] <Althego> you cant have that
anyway, small specks of dust moving in the huge void
L20[01:45:17] <Rolf> why not, as well as go
all way and have stars really just chumbs on black table sheet
train tracks is on
L21[01:45:54] <JVFoxy> sun is just really
on a big machine, each night it gets transported underground back
to the starting point
L22[01:47:06] <JVFoxy> actually.. come to
think of it, book Steal Beach, the city underground on the moon did
have a fake sun that went overhead on special tracks
L23[01:48:16] <JVFoxy> people that did have
a view out over the surface, was so much garbage, people just
dumped it outside. No air for wind, or climate, it just sat around
forever, getting sun blasted
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L25[02:04:23] <Rolf> steel beach?
L26[02:04:51] <Althego> what there is
already some livestream going on. cobesats on this launch too
L27[02:07:13] <JVFoxy> Rolf book by John
Varley... setting is on the moon, something about an alien race
making Earth unlivable, so human population moved to the
Moon...
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L29[02:07:30] <Rolf> yeah I remember
that
L30[02:07:43] <Rolf> they took earth and
jupier
L31[02:07:45] <JVFoxy> or... some alien
race killed everyone on Earth, just those on the moon were left.. I
don't remember, its been a while
L32[02:08:01] <Rolf> most earth people died
due to sudden loss of techology
L33[02:08:15] <Rolf> aliens just dissolved
everything manmade
L34[02:08:37] <Rolf> and any human who dare
go there dies
L35[02:08:43] <JVFoxy> I know it wasn't
talked about much.. just enough to place the setting
L36[02:09:59] <JVFoxy> later on, he talked
about Heinlein tech, which I hadn't even ehard of up till
then
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L39[02:31:05] <Althego> hehe itmestamp is
in utc
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L45[02:51:28] <Althego> although they will
have practically the same orbit
L46[02:51:59] <Althego> looks quite
kerbal
L47[02:53:54] <Althego> perfect, this is
monday evening for me, so i can watch the deployment too
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L50[02:56:01] <JVFoxy> 'rideshare'.... ok..
so not just rockets now huh?
L51[02:56:28] <JVFoxy> term wise at
least
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L53[02:57:48] <JVFoxy> geez... 49 cube
sat.... so going to shotgun the sky with stuff huh?
L54[03:00:49] <JVFoxy> .....
L55[03:02:25] <JVFoxy> oh flight to
ISS
L56[03:03:12] <Althego> and docking of the
progress is coming up in less than a day
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L58[03:06:00] <Althego> hehe why does it
have the fairing on
L59[03:06:04] <Althego> above 100 km
L60[03:07:00] <JVFoxy> second stage solid
huh...
L61[03:07:11] <Althego> i never understand
that
L62[03:07:12] <JVFoxy> for
simplicity?
L63[03:07:19] <Althego> ok, they are simple
and probably not fail
L64[03:07:54] <Althego> i like the perigee
readout
L65[03:07:59] <Althego> you can imagine the
orbit ksp like
L66[03:08:06] <JVFoxy> wonder what kind of
delta V deviation on the fuel is factored in..
L67[03:08:07] <Althego> it is still below
the surface
L68[03:08:43] <Althego> and the typical
burning down happens
L69[03:08:47] <Althego> i rarely do that in
ksp
L70[03:08:57] <JVFoxy> LF rocekts you can
sort of throttle... not so much on the solid.. those things are
built to spec, long time before launch. Then its... kick it, hope
it doesn't go too far off as it burns
L71[03:09:02] <Althego> it means this much
that you cant throttle in real life
L72[03:09:54] <Althego> and as usual they
never tell us how they get rid of that stage in orbit
L73[03:10:18] <Althego> 278x207 km it will
be there for a long time
L74[03:11:06] <Althego> strangely while
100k people were watching spacex, only 4500 are interested in
this
L75[03:13:07] <JVFoxy> did it show per and
ap..?
L76[03:13:23] <JVFoxy> ah.. ya series of
burns
L77[03:13:30] <Althego> series of tubes
:)
L78[03:13:41] <JVFoxy> SRB will drop
eventually... still gotta finalize the circularization
L79[03:14:21] <Althego> yes after a
while
L80[03:14:30] <Althego> at least the spacex
second stage can make a deorbit burn
L81[03:16:39] <Althego> stream over
L82[03:16:42] <JVFoxy> I noticed the stage
sep, RCS started it into a tumble...
L83[03:16:59] <Althego> or not. maybe as in
apollo it helped to separate
L84[03:17:25] <JVFoxy> apollo needed ullage
to fire engines
L85[03:17:51] <JVFoxy> the docking target
for the gemini, they had special fuel bellows to help with
restarts
L86[03:18:21] <Althego> ok, the solid does
not need that
L87[03:18:47] <JVFoxy> solid.. no
L88[03:19:30] <JVFoxy> does need a pretty
strong ignition though.
L89[03:19:51] <JVFoxy> and maybe a touch of
prediction
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L91[03:27:33] <JVFoxy> ... take pressure
reading at Scott's Secret... still kept the report from Scott's
Sanity from a while back...
L92[03:27:43] <Althego> hehe
L93[03:27:51] <Althego> are they all
alliterating?
L94[03:29:35] <JVFoxy> I don't know.. just
the fact that Scott came up twice already on this one career.
L95[03:29:49] <JVFoxy> pretty close to the
center
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L99[03:35:53] <JVFoxy> nice
L100[03:37:40] <Althego> from ksp
twitter
L101[03:40:07] <JVFoxy> I got a bit into
flight sim... a bit later on. It wasn't till a little past that I
started seeing some of the 'not so good' stuff about it. The simple
magic of just having a flight sim period back in those days.
L102[03:40:46] <JVFoxy> now you have
ultra-realisim.. with a few various products, flight-sim sorta got
buried
L103[03:41:53] <JVFoxy> KSP is fun to mess
with, there been times I wish I had a few specific planes to mess
around in it... not so much fighter jockey myself, there are soem
aviation favs I do have
L104[03:42:14] <Gasher> one of the first
games i had on PC was flight sim - Red Baron 2
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L106[03:44:40] <JVFoxy> I played around
with Flightsim 1... I think 2 as well. I still remember 4 and
Flightshop for Flightsim.
L107[03:45:01] <JVFoxy> downloading region
maps made by other players from library database.
L108[03:45:16] <JVFoxy> Even had UFO, I
still have Spacesim
L109[03:47:50] <JVFoxy> heh.. before all
that, 'Jet'... also had Chuck Yeager's Air combat, may even still
have the cassette where he talks about things
L110[03:50:10] <JVFoxy> .... oh according
to net, it was included in advanced flight trainer 2.0.... eh its
been a while.
L112[03:53:09] <Althego> they really
suck
L113[03:54:26] <Althego> later it turned
out that playing ksp helps you to fly helicopters, and even GA is
flyable if i turn off the computerized help, i realized that after
trying the older GS what i could fly easily
L114[03:57:14] <JVFoxy> I've helped at the
museum of flight. They took in a GA trainer from the 70s or so,
made by Singer called the GAT-1 (general aviation trainer 1)
L115[03:57:35] <Althego> probably other GA
:)
L116[03:57:47] <Althego> this has been
flying for the last few years
L117[03:57:47] <JVFoxy> turns out someone
blew out one of the control transistors that runs the motor for
banking.. putting all the power load on the second.
L118[03:57:56] <Rokker> MUSEUM
L119[03:58:02] <Althego> argh
L120[03:58:34] <JVFoxy> then later... I
heard they wanted to computerize it but then later realized it
would have been too much.
L122[03:59:05] *
Rokker museum
L123[03:59:24] <JVFoxy> hey.. the guys
that ran the place actually flew a number of older planes... a
TigerMoth, one of the helpers even owns a Staggerwing, still
flying.
L124[04:00:36] <JVFoxy> couple of
Harvards
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L126[04:02:59] <falalilal> year 6 of the
space program... and then i realize the dessert launch platform is
called 'dessert' and not 'desert'
L127[04:03:14] <Althego> hehe
L128[04:03:18] <Althego> i took me a few
months too
L129[04:04:00] <falalilal> sometimes i
wonder why bothered to learn how to read at all
L130[04:05:47] <JVFoxy> desert... hot..
desert, sometimes cold... for someone who doesn't know english too
well, I can see how that would be so much trouble to learn
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L176[07:29:22] <kubi> ukrania-hungary
smuggler drone :)
L177[07:29:51] <Fluburtur> nice
L178[07:31:05] <Fluburtur> I can show them
how to do it properly
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L194[10:03:36] <lordcirth> MM question:
@entryCost = cost * 2 doesn't seem to work. What's the
syntax?
L195[10:03:59] <lordcirth> I guess I could
copy and then *= ?
L196[10:05:47] *
darsie tries to collide two ships, one in prograde and one in
retrograde orbit.
L197[10:06:02] <Althego> hehe
L198[10:06:10] <Althego> almost
impossible
L199[10:06:16] <Althego> because of the
physics step
L200[10:06:28] <lordcirth> You can retune
the step time
L201[10:06:40] <lordcirth> Or even get
better time warp and do 0.25x physics warp
L202[10:06:51] <Althego> basically that is
the only way to do it
L203[10:06:58] <darsie> Is that
stock?
L204[10:07:13] <Althego> no
L205[10:07:19] <lordcirth> the first one
is
L206[10:07:22] <Althego> scott did
something like this
L207[10:07:27] <Althego> slow motion
station collision
L208[10:18:26] <Fluburtur> alright I need
some inputs on stuff
L209[10:18:41] <Fluburtur> in parallel to
my planes I will be trying to build and sell some antenna
trackers
L210[10:19:52] <Fluburtur> they should be
cheaper and sell more easily so should I focus more on that
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L213[10:25:54] <Fluburtur> also, to make a
ring gear I can just make the negative of a regular gear and they
will mesh?
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L220[10:57:54] <lordcirth> What's wrong
with this MM syntax: @entryCost = #$cost$ * 2 ?
L221[10:58:11] <lordcirth> Is '*' not
multiply?
L222[11:01:04] <lordcirth> Well,
@entryCost = #$cost$ \n @entryCost *= 2 works
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L248[13:05:31] <Althego> slow day
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L250[13:55:25] <Eddi|zuHause> so, i
provoked this fallen empire, and i can take on one of their fleets
with all my fleets combined, but i have no idea how to separate
theirs...
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L262[15:29:05] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: watcha
building?
L263[15:29:17] <Fluburtur> that's the
video system for my glider
L264[15:29:30] <Fluburtur> HD and fpv
video+tx, all in that
L265[15:30:32] <Mat2ch> sending even in
HD?
L266[15:31:24] <Fluburtur> nah, the fpv
signal is ugly as always but it records hd
L267[15:31:29] <Fluburtur> this way it
needs only one camera
L268[15:32:30] <Mat2ch> what plane are you
working on right now?
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L271[15:34:20] <darsie> <lordcirth>
You can retune the step time <-- Max Physics Delta-Time per
frame? It's 0.04, I can put it to 0.03.
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L274[15:37:56] <Fluburtur> however I don't
know how deep the glider will be so I can't design the mount
yet
L275[15:47:03] <Mat2ch> oh nice, a glider
for once. :D
L276[15:49:42] <Fluburtur> yeah for long
flight time and long range hopefuly
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L278[15:58:07] <darsie> My argument of
periapsis drifts :(.
L279[15:58:39] <darsie> I had Ap/Pe with
my target aligned, but it drifted apart. Altitudes are
unchanged.
L280[15:59:05] <UmbralRaptop>
Principa?
L281[16:00:00] <darsie> no
L282[16:00:06] <darsie> Ahh, no, altitudes
changed, too.
L283[16:00:53] <darsie> KER, EER, dated
quicksaves.
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L314[18:20:22] <Scolar_Visari> Sons and
daughters of Kerbin: It's not called retreating, it's running away
from danger as fast as you can!
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L318[18:28:37] *
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very seriously given the bite a reusable upper stage would've taken
out of payload capacity.
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L321[18:35:20] <UmbralRaptop> pod racing,
but it's which dolphin can eat the most tuna
L322[18:36:42] <JVFoxy> wish I had money,
some space stuff I'd like to do too
L323[18:37:04] <Scolar_Visari>
UmbralRaptop: Bonus points if you just stay home and train humans
to give you fish.
L324[18:37:33] <Scolar_Visari> JVFoxy:
Space Engine is space stuff for free.
L325[18:43:07] <JVFoxy> Scolar_visari I
was thinking more developmental stuff, maybe launch to test it
actually works.
L326[18:44:53] <Scolar_Visari> JVFoxy: But
Space Engine IS in development!
L327[18:46:36] <UmbralRaptop> JVFoxy:
design controls in kRPC?
L328[18:47:50] <JVFoxy> space engine more
eye candy... knowledge database. I was thinking more systems to
help explore space to expand on it that knowledge.
L329[18:48:45] <JVFoxy> the other day, on
the news, Canadians don't want to see just Americans landing on the
moon, rather a mixed nationality project
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L331[18:53:04] <Scolar_Visari> JVFoxy: Er,
I think the big story was general skepticism over a Lunar
gateway.
L332[18:53:41] <Scolar_Visari> There are
budgetary, leadership and R&D deadline concerns surrounding the
plans, which were admittedly never that concrete to begin
with.
L334[18:56:29] *
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four or eight years.
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L336[18:57:48] <JVFoxy>
Interesting..Victoria.. not far from me...
L337[18:58:07] <JVFoxy> I'd actually like
to see us Canadians get more involved.. not just build robotics and
imagery
L338[19:00:07] <JVFoxy> Growing up.. was
big on space. Wanted to go up there. The whole nationality wasn't
even a thing for me back then. Yet, parents insisted it was an
'American only thing'...
L339[19:00:55] <UmbralRaptop> gah
L340[19:01:23] *
UmbralRaptop is aware of a number of Canadians working on
exoplanets, though
L341[19:02:08] <UmbralRaptop>
Scolar_Visari: just as long as there's not another admin/decadal
report mismatch like almost killed WFIRST.
L342[19:02:47] <JVFoxy> well.. childhood
for me was like early 80s...
L343[19:03:05] <JVFoxy> ... '80s... um ya
ways..
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L347[19:21:29] <Scolar_Visari> JVFoxy:
Space is expensive, however, there is a lower equilibrium region
between the quantity of space stuff supply curve and the quantity
of space stuff demand curve.
L348[19:22:04] <Scolar_Visari> Whether or
not the starting point of the former curve will lower appreciably
in the near future remains to be seen.
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L350[19:23:48] <Scolar_Visari>
UmbralRaptop: I think the biggest potential threat to large NASA
projects in the near future is bald or thinly guised
anti-intellectualism.
L351[19:25:31] <UmbralRaptop> The
earth/climate/weather ones, definitely. Other ones more political
details or giving the appearance of cutting costs.
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L353[19:28:36] <Scolar_Visari>
UmbralRaptop: There was a recent attack ad which specifically
disparaged the Europa Clipper.
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L355[19:29:04] <Scolar_Visari> Not for the
lander requirement, mind you, but because of it involving
astrobiology
L356[19:31:16] <UmbralRaptop> uh
L357[19:31:45] <UmbralRaptop> o_O
L358[19:33:01] <UmbralRaptop> I mean,
right now I'm biased towards ice giant orbiters (and a Venus return
because it can teach us about exoplanets), but o_O
L359[19:34:33] <Scolar_Visari> Go Jovian
or go home!
L360[19:34:47] <Scolar_Visari> All Neptune
has is a moon that orbits backwards!
L361[19:35:31] <Scolar_Visari> Jupiter has
theme parks orbiting it, like Lava World, Ocean World, Ice World
and Plate Tectonics World!
L362[19:36:13] <UmbralRaptop> hah
L363[19:36:14] <Eddi|zuHause> we haven't
even dared to do a mars return, why would anyone consider a venus
return?
L364[19:36:47] <Scolar_Visari> Eddi: I
suppose you could return Venusian atmospheric samples
L365[19:36:58] <UmbralRaptop> … return? We
have a lander arriving at Mars in just over a week.
L366[19:37:14] <Scolar_Visari>
UmbralRaptop: I think Eddi thoguht you meant sample return.
L367[19:37:26] <UmbralRaptop> Plus a
current rover, and at least 3 orbiters
L368[19:37:27] *
Scolar_Visari sighs as the hopes for a new Venera mission
fade.
L369[19:37:57] <UmbralRaptop>
Eddi|zuHause: the last US mission to Venus was Magellan in, uh,
1992?
L370[19:38:14] <Eddi|zuHause> ah yes, i
thought you meant "return from venus", not "return
to venus"
L371[19:38:25] <Scolar_Visari> Eddi: That
would be a goldmine of geological data, however.
L372[19:38:38] *
Scolar_Visari ponders what part of Venus one would best stab to get
old rocks.
L373[19:39:04] <Eddi|zuHause> isn't venus
surface weirdly uniform?
L374[19:39:12] <UmbralRaptop> A Venus
sample return would give way more bang for the kg returned than a
Mars one. Though I don't know for the $.
L375[19:39:56] <UmbralRaptop>
Eddi|zuHause: maybe, but there is some ambiguity. We could do with
better evidence for/against the resurfacing event
L376[19:39:58] <Scolar_Visari> Eddi: No
more than Earth, in a way, due to geological resurfacing. Like the
Earth, however, there should be holdouts of ancient rocks.
L377[19:41:01] <Scolar_Visari> There are
also interesting volcanological features, though how active they
are is something that requires further investigation.
L378[19:41:24] <UmbralRaptop> (granted,
Eddi|zuHause might be paying more attention to ESA, which did have
a Venus orbiter more recently)
L379[19:42:16] <Scolar_Visari> Don't
forget Akatsuki!
L380[19:43:22] <UmbralRaptop> Yeah
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L382[19:46:05] <Scolar_Visari> Also, why,
"ice giant orbiter" *or*, "icy moon orbiter".
Is it too much to ask for both?
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L384[19:47:48] <UmbralRaptop> Decadal
deathmatch^W report
L385[19:48:58] *
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responsible for approving NASA's budget.
L386[19:50:43] *
un214 still wants a working warp drive
L387[19:51:14] <Scolar_Visari> I'm not
sure that one is physically possible.
L388[19:51:31] <Eddi|zuHause> thre are
some theories about that
L389[19:51:45] <un214> well dark energy
has a negative sign, and something with negative energy is
required
L390[19:51:56] <un214> basically, if you
can make the negative energy source the rest is doable
L391[19:52:35] <Eddi|zuHause> it's a lot
of "well, mathematically that should work, no idea how to get
there physically, though"
L392[19:54:14] <Scolar_Visari> un214: I
don't think any cosmologist or physicist would actually describe
dark energy as something that could be used in the manner you're
thinking.
L393[19:54:30] <Eddi|zuHause> well, we
barely managed to make a handful of atoms of antimatter. nobody has
even a clue how to approach exotic matter
L394[19:54:39] <Scolar_Visari>
Particularly if DE's a cosmological constant . . .
L395[19:55:49] <UmbralRaptop> The negative
sign is in pressure, but as best I'm aware, works out to positive
energy density.
L396[19:55:59] <Scolar_Visari> Eddi: There
are also theoretical issues that haven't really been resolved, such
as, "will warping space time build up an extinction level
event's worth of charged particles?"
L397[20:02:56] <un214> Scolar_Visari then
don't point your drive directly at the target
L398[20:03:26] <Scolar_Visari> Un214: I
think it's less an issue at what you're point at but rather in
every direction.
L399[20:03:45] <un214> ah; definitely
doesn't do that
L400[20:03:47] <Scolar_Visari> I wouldn't
make any bets on warp drives ever being a thing, or any FTL for
that matter.
L401[20:04:19] <un214> well it's kind of a
toss-up whether or not man will get one working before he runs out
of time
L402[20:05:15] <Scolar_Visari> Like,
"Earth turns into Kharak time" or, "Heat Death of
the Universe" time?
L403[20:05:27] <Eddi|zuHause> i'm going
out on a limb here and postulate that we won't see any practical
use of a warp drive in our lifetime
L404[20:05:45] <un214> like God says
"enough" time
L405[20:05:58] <Scolar_Visari> Eddi: I'll
stay on my tree and say humanity won't see any practical use of
space-time warping technology before maximum entropy
L406[20:06:25] *
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L407[20:06:47] <un214> on the other hand,
if you have arbitrary space warping (which the warp drive isn't)
than maximum entropy is not an issue
L408[20:07:44] <Scolar_Visari> In any
event, you don't need FTL for semi-reasonable interstellar
travel.
L409[20:07:54] <Eddi|zuHause> i'm assuming
a warp drive still can't violate the 2nd law of
thermodynamics
L410[20:08:08] <Scolar_Visari> While Mr.
Torgue would not approve, LASER SAILS can do the trick without
magictech!
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L412[20:10:19] <un214> correct the second
law is still in play. There are metrics that defeat the first law
but a warp drive will not suffice to set them up
L413[20:15:38] <UmbralRaptop> laser sails
make me optimistic (!) about interstellar travel
L414[20:17:56] <Scolar_Visari> Now we just
need several hundred teraWatt lasers emitters in Solar orbit . .
.
L415[20:19:36] <UmbralRaptop> Sell it as a
weapons system!
L416[20:19:58] <un214> lol man you'll
never reach high relavisitic speeds that way
L417[20:20:51] <Scolar_Visari> un214: Yes
you can!
L418[20:21:03] <Scolar_Visari> It's a
matter of lowering your payload mass, increasing laser
output.
L419[20:21:53] <Scolar_Visari> Or, better
yet: Moar lazors.
L420[20:22:35] <Scolar_Visari> If you can
push a manned spacecraft to a decent fraction of C, getting an
unmanned one to ludicrous fractions of C would be trivial.
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L422[20:27:46] <un214> it's the heat
dissipation
L423[20:29:12] <Scolar_Visari> That really
shouldn't be an issue unless you're using a very focused beam at
very close range.
L424[20:30:05] <Scolar_Visari> Even for a
relativistic craft, you're still talking about months or years of
acceleration by a wide beam against a sail many dozens or hundreds
of square kilometers in area.
L425[20:30:18] <Scolar_Visari> Preferably
thousands too, I guess.
L426[20:32:51] <Scolar_Visari> I'm not
even sure the payload would even need to be very well shielded. In
practice, it'd be a lot easier protecting it against laser light
than it would be engineering a heat rejection system for a high
thrust fusion rocket.
L427[20:35:47] <Scolar_Visari> The laser
stations themselves would generate horrendous amounts of waste
heat, but they're also largely stationary once finished and need
not concern themselves with staying lightweight.
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Scolar_Visari admits, however, that stopping a relativistic laser
sailcraft would likely require the use of a rocket unless you've
the appropriate infrastructure on the receiving end.
L432[20:42:03] <Scolar_Visari> Still a lot
easier than a rocket for both acceleration and braking!
L433[20:43:22] *
Scolar_Visari ponder aerobraking . . . in a star's
atmosphere.
L434[20:43:28] *
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into Sirius orbit faster than alpha cen
L435[20:46:01] <Scolar_Visari> The
ablation of your spacecraft's will produce thrust!
L436[20:47:03] <UmbralRaptop> Kind of low
Isp (in this case o_O)
L437[20:47:57] <lordcirth> Scolar_Visari,
In the book Accelerando, they cut loose half the sail to act as a
mirror to reverse the laser that accelerated them. However, that
requires insanely good collimation, among other things.
L438[20:48:00] <Scolar_Visari> A white
dwarf mission would be kind of interesting. Though, admittedly, not
as cool as a neutron star or black hole rendezvous.
L439[20:48:28] <Scolar_Visari> lordcirth:
There have been papers on the subject of using moar laser sails for
reversing thrust on the receving end for a few decades now.
L440[20:48:55] <Scolar_Visari> I'd think
that'd be too far out for longer distance missions.
L442[20:52:23] <lordcirth> The randomly
missing spaces are annoying
L443[20:52:27] <lordcirth> Cool paper,
though!
L444[20:53:24] *
Scolar_Visari notes the article discusses maximum speeds of 30% the
speed of light, with ships completing trips at distances of ~11
light-years within a very reasonable 40 years
L445[20:55:07] <Scolar_Visari> Yes, they'd
require tens of thousands of teraWatts of laser output, but there's
nothing physically impossible aboot that!
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