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L5[00:51:56] <Rolf> probably not laggy
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L6[00:52:44] <Rolf> lol that video
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L38[04:18:27] <taniwha> if anyone is
interested, that is :P
L39[04:20:48] <Althego> hehe a cute sience
collector
L40[04:26:36] <JVFoxy> Hellos...
L41[04:26:49] <JVFoxy> watch'n yer twitch..
no account myself
L42[04:27:11] <Althego> i thought you didnt
need an account to watch
L43[04:27:20] <Althego> in fact i am not
logged in either
L44[04:27:30] <Althego> hes is playing
career
L45[04:27:40] <JVFoxy> says it wants login
and password before I can say anything
L46[04:27:49] <Althego> that is true
L47[04:27:57] <Althego> probably not
watching irc rioght now
L48[04:28:40] <JVFoxy> its always required
login for chat far as I remember
L49[04:30:51] <Althego> and this is the
reason i dont take these atmospheric measurement missions most of
the time. they take too much time
L50[04:30:57] <Althego> from my time, not
game time
L51[04:31:53] <Althego> why am i getting
hungry
L52[04:32:14] <JVFoxy> ok so high alt
mission.. joy
L53[04:32:23] <darsie> Althego: Because you
burned your fuel.
L54[04:32:24] <Althego> yese those are the
worst of all
L55[04:32:33] <Althego> lot of fat
left
L56[04:32:43] <JVFoxy> if its near the
center.. I just rocket engine it up...
L57[04:32:51] <JVFoxy> I sorta hate the
ones further out..
L58[04:33:06] <Althego> yes, but when it is
far away, it is really impractical
L59[04:33:17] <Althego> unless a parabolic
flight
L60[04:33:31] <Althego> anf even then you
need to do multiple to get all points
L61[04:33:54] <darsie> Parabolic flight is
for flat Earthers. Round Earthers go elliptic.
L62[04:34:27] <Althego> cant really do that
inside the atmosphere
L63[04:34:39] <JVFoxy> once I deal with my
station contract.. and maybe the mun landing thing. Going to see
about a polar surface station. I was debating if I should do tier
one attempt and record it or..
L64[04:35:01] <darsie> Can't fly a complete
parabola within the atmosphere, either.
L65[04:35:28] <Althego> it becomes a drag
distorted parabola
L66[04:36:08] <Althego> now if i remembered
my twitch password
L67[04:37:01] <darsie> I said complete, not
exact.
L68[04:37:31] <Althego> ah in the sense it
is not infinite
L69[04:37:37] <darsie> mhm
L70[04:38:20] <darsie> Free fall in the
atmosphere is a distorted ellipse, just like an orbit.
L71[04:39:02] <Althego> distorted conic
section :)
L72[04:40:11] <darsie> Yeah, you could skim
the atmosphere during a flyby.
L73[04:41:36] <Althego> but normally i
would think of it as parabola, because of the basic projectile
motion. of course if it is big enough for the curvature to be
noticable, then it is closer to an ellipse
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L76[04:55:54] <Althego> 16 hours until it's
business time
L77[04:56:02] <Althego> let's hope they can
launch it now
L78[04:57:54] <JVFoxy> ah.. electron.. 3rd.
cool
L79[04:58:54] <Althego> that date moved a
lot during this year
L80[05:01:53] <JVFoxy> saw it was
scrubbed/delayed, but didn't catch reason behind
L81[05:16:38] *
darsie builds a sample return mission for Moho.
L82[05:17:08] <Althego> too bad there is no
sample taking with stock probes
L83[05:17:13] <Althego> i really want a
sampling arm
L84[05:17:18] <Althego> similar to a
drill
L85[05:17:42] <Althego> because then you
wouldnt need tto take the kerbals there just for a sample
L86[05:25:25] <Althego> this test run was
not very successful. lots of cores. luckily seem to be the same
one
L87[05:36:26] <JVFoxy> lol... sample
probes? I seem to recall people dropping whole asteroids onto
kerbin
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L98[06:17:53] <Althego> where is the
parachute?
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L100[06:24:22] <darsie> good
question.
L101[06:24:36] <darsie> On Valentina's
back.
L102[06:25:07] <Althego> hehe
L103[06:25:10] <darsie> :)
L104[06:25:13] <Althego> then you dont
need the cabin :)
L105[06:25:24] <Althego> huge
savings
L106[06:25:37] <darsie> It's for
aerobraking at Kerbin.
L107[06:26:13] <Althego> no, the
heatshield is for that
L108[06:26:21] <Althego> the rest is just
useless baggage
L109[06:26:49] <darsie> Strap Valentina to
the heat shield? I tried such a thing. Not really comfortable with
it.
L110[06:28:21] <Althego> now you even can
start from a command seat
L111[06:28:30] <Althego> just need a
reaction wheel
L112[06:28:40] <darsie> cool
L113[06:28:55] <Althego> and one battery
above the heatshield
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L116[06:29:43] <darsie> I thougt of doing
a rescue mission with capsule on Valentina's fly by back at
Kerbin.
L117[06:29:53] <darsie> But meh.
L118[06:30:42] *
darsie refuels at the orbital fuel depot.
L119[06:30:59] <darsie> But hey, it'll be
cool if it works on the first iteration. It made orbit.
L120[06:31:53] <darsie> I'm looking
forward to the Moho landing and reorbit with the tiny lander. Oscar
B + Ant.
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L122[06:36:48] <darsie> I hope I have
enough dv to get to Moho. Need a good route.
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L134[07:39:30] <GlassYuri> is there any
rocket that from the launch pad is pitched at some angle from
vertical?
L135[07:40:07] <Althego> in real
life?
L136[07:40:21] <GlassYuri> yeah
L137[07:40:31] <Althego> that tiny
japanese rocket looked like that
L138[07:40:43] <GlassYuri> asking because
I just had a rocket picth in the direction I wanted due to a
physics bug
L139[07:40:43] <Althego> that launches
from a truck
L140[07:41:23] <GlassYuri> the one behind
the museum in ueno
L141[07:41:24] <GlassYuri> ?
L143[07:43:00] <GlassYuri> I think that is
the same as in ueno
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L149[08:42:46] <Rokker> MUSEUM
L150[08:43:13] <Althego> gcc
L151[08:43:19] <Eddi|zuHause> and it took
you 1 hour to respond to a highlight?
L152[08:43:26] <Althego> lol
L153[08:44:30] <Fluburtur> the imgur video
to gif thing is broken for the only video I want to make to a
gif
L154[08:44:39] <Althego> hehe
L155[08:45:11] <Eddi|zuHause> i've never
understood the craze to turn videos into gifs
L157[08:46:37] <Eddi|zuHause> "let's
take a regular video, remove the possibility of having audio,
replace it with crappy limited colour space, inability to pause,
and constantly looping without any benefit"
L158[08:47:12] <Althego> but it works
without any magical codecs
L159[08:47:29] <Eddi|zuHause> if anything,
that codec is even more magical :p
L160[08:47:38] <Eddi|zuHause> it's just
builtin in browsers
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L163[09:26:48] <UmbralRaptop> GlassYuri:
IIRC a bunch of the smaller Japanese rockets launch(edge) at an
angle. Also sounding rockets and their derivatives (Black Brant,
Super Strypi, etc)
L165[09:38:31] <darsie> Will need some
jetpacking to get back up.
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L167[09:47:29] <darsie> lol, I launched
the counterorbit to my home ship.
L168[09:48:49] <Eddi|zuHause> i hate when
that happens
L169[09:49:44] <Eddi|zuHause> i once did
that for a beyond-mun-rescue mission, where i didn't realize the
orbit was retrograde
L170[09:54:33] <darsie> should have landed
the other way. Hmm, but I chose the sunny side for the orbit
insertion burn.
L171[09:55:05] <darsie> Or does Moho by
any chance rotate retrograde?
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L173[10:11:37] <darsie> Looks like Moho is
something like tidally locked to the Sun, so doesn't rotate much.
Orbital direction doesn't matter.
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L177[10:45:05] <darsie> :)
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L181[10:56:41] <UmbralRaptop> I want to
type that Moho was locked in 0.17, but is now in a 2:3 spin-orbit
resonance.
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L184[11:11:31] <lordcirth> Anyone try Luna
Multiplayer? Seems to work well
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L209[13:50:36] <Althego> electron is still
scheduled in 7 hours
L210[13:50:53] <Althego> i think i am
going to sleep through it
L211[13:50:59] <Althego> unless it is
delayed
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L213[14:01:37] <darsie> Valentina
parachuted to the launchpad with a surface sample of Moho.
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L217[14:03:44] <Althego> nice
L218[14:03:55] <Althego> really fast
execution of a hard mission
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L224[14:10:54] <darsie> Fast? I cooked and
ate pancakes inbetween.
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L227[14:13:26] <darsie> The Ant was a bit
low thrust and had significant gravity losses when landing on Moho,
but with the jetpack it worked out.
L229[14:14:26] <darsie> Fluburtur: air
brakes
L230[14:14:35] <Fluburtur> pretty
much
L231[14:15:08] <darsie> Hmm, do air brakes
go up?
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L233[14:15:22] <Fluburtur> when flaps go
up it is called reflex
L234[14:15:33] <Fluburtur> gliders use
that to reduce lift and drag to go faster
L235[14:16:05] <Althego> how does that
reduce drag?
L236[14:16:09] <Althego> because it
reduces lift?
L237[14:16:15] <Fluburtur> yeah
L238[14:16:20] <Fluburtur> they don't go
up by much
L239[14:16:28] <darsie> Why not pitch down
instead?
L240[14:16:44] <Fluburtur> they don't want
to go down
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L242[14:17:05] <darsie> Hmm, keep going
up/straight, but faster?
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L244[14:17:11] <Fluburtur> yeah
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L262[15:58:39] <falalilal> i just spent 5
hours driving over the surface of duna to get a surface sample from
outside the northeast basin -_-
L263[15:58:51] <raptop> Uh
L264[15:59:13] <raptop> Hopefully(?) in 4x
warp?
L265[15:59:54] <Eddi|zuHause> the main
problem i have with that kind of stuff is you cannot quicksave
while the rover moves
L266[16:00:02] <falalilal> i varied the
warp cause 4x starts getting slidy, most of it in 2
L267[16:00:17] <Eddi|zuHause> so any wrong
button press might result in you having to do it all over again, or
you need to stop every few minutes
L268[16:00:25] <falalilal> but it still
took me 5 hours cause ^
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L270[16:07:08] <darsie> falalilal: Land
near a 2/3 biome border.
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L272[16:07:30] <falalilal> i landed near
the pregnant lady
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L274[16:07:54] <falalilal> i just decided
to find some more surface samples on a whim
L275[16:08:22] <falalilal> took longer
than expected... but i was like "I can't stop now!" ->
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L277[16:08:55] <Eddi|zuHause> that's what
happened to me trying to relocate my minimus base a few km
uphill
L278[16:09:09] <Eddi|zuHause> a few hours
later, no significant progress
L279[16:09:30] <Eddi|zuHause> just an
endless descent into glitching through the terrain
L280[16:09:33] <darsie> Use AI.
L281[16:09:46] <falalilal> No.
L282[16:10:18] <Eddi|zuHause> darsie: you
mean a "have the game play itself for me" button?
L283[16:10:32] <darsie> yeah :)
L284[16:11:07] <darsie> fast forward a
Scott Manley video ;).
L285[16:11:08] <Eddi|zuHause> not sure
what problem that is exactly meant to solve here :p
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L292[16:38:03] <markovify> falalilal i do
not envy you. tbh i never drive rovers over long distances by hand,
just isn't fun for me
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L295[16:45:54] <Eddi|zuHause> i once tried
to drive to an anomaly on kerbin by car
L296[16:46:21] <Eddi|zuHause> that was
pre-wheel-rework (1.1-ish)
L297[16:47:26] <Fluburtur> and then there
is me who drives submarines
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L299[17:09:38] <markovify> at least
submarines go in straight lines
L300[17:19:54] <Fluburtur> exept when you
make a route to follow
L301[17:20:05] <Fluburtur> but I still
went in a straight line most of the time
L302[17:21:52] <Rolf> I made a carplane.
used fly only when land got rough
L303[17:21:57] <Rolf> very long fuel
life
L304[17:22:30] <Rolf> I guess subplane is
possible also, to cross land thats on way for shorter path
L305[17:23:14] <Eddi|zuHause> i've had a
really hard time "landing" on water with a plane without
disintegrating
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L309[17:35:06] <Fluburtur> there was a
heli with a fantar that flew over earlier
L310[17:35:33] <Fluburtur> at first it
sounded like a normal heli but louder but then it made a very
characteristic jet engine screech
L311[17:36:42] <falalilal> it's been
surprisingly easy for me to land on water with planes
L312[17:36:56] <Fluburtur> some planes
like water more than other
L313[17:38:36] <falalilal> huh, this is
wonky - i've got an orbital station with several asteroids attached
to it, but when i start mining with the drill stuck in the biggest
one, ore is extracted from roid attached most recently
L314[17:39:12] <Fluburtur> maybe it counts
the asteroids as one body
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L330[19:42:42] <Eddi|zuHause> clearly you
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L332[19:45:49] <GlassYuri> it failed me
two contracts to test the RT-5 at the launch pad
L333[19:46:18] <GlassYuri> maybe related
to having two identical contracts at the same time?
L334[19:46:20] <Eddi|zuHause> did they
time out?
L335[19:46:41] <GlassYuri> no, I tested
the RT-10 for another contract and they seemed to fail in that
moment
L336[19:47:28] <GlassYuri> is it even
possible to have two identical contracts, I got the second one
after a save-load cycle so it may have been a bug
L337[19:47:53] <Eddi|zuHause> no
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L362[22:13:19] <Draconiator> lol I want
one of those Rutherford engines to use as a unique grill.
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L364[22:14:46] <KrazyKrl> using an 18kN
rocket engine as a grill... that will go well.
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L371[22:42:13] <Althego> hah it is still
not launched
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L373[22:42:19] <KrazyKrl> what
L375[22:42:35] <Althego> or is it
L376[22:42:37] <KrazyKrl> they are already
in a polar orbit and are waiting for third stage
L377[22:42:41] <Althego> heh
L378[22:43:14] <Althego> oh yes i forgot
that we are in utc+1 now
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L381[22:43:46] <KrazyKrl> be afraid... be
very afraid... the third stage engine has 0.12kN thrust.
L382[22:43:55] <Althego> hehe
L383[22:44:22] <Althego> lot of sats in
there
L384[22:44:34] <Althego> tiny
L385[22:44:46] <KrazyKrl> cubesats
L386[22:45:16] <KrazyKrl> this launch cost
~$6,000,000 US, at a cost of ~$26,666 to sun sync orbit.
L387[22:45:22] <KrazyKrl> per kg*
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L389[22:47:16] <Althego> in the interview
with everyday astronaut the ceo said they redesigned something in
the rocket to avoid the issues they had previously
L390[22:47:18] <KrazyKrl> yea... btw that
ELaNa launch is due for this month, currently I don't have a dat
for it.
L391[22:48:28] <KrazyKrl> this rocket also
is only 10,500kg, with a max SSO payload of 225kg, lol.
L392[22:48:41] <Althego> so small
L393[22:49:10] <Althego> but with being
this cheap even i could put some small sat into orbit
L394[22:49:10] <KrazyKrl> 17m tall, 1.2m
in diameter.
L395[22:49:42] <KrazyKrl> first stage is a
TOTAL thrust of 162kN... so yea, teeny
L396[22:50:11] <Althego> supposedly the
smoothest ride in the industry because of the electric
turbopumps
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L398[22:51:34] <KrazyKrl> yea... the
rocket is so tiny, the turbopumps are only 50 horsepower.
L399[22:51:58] <Althego> but with an
engine smaller than a fist
L400[22:52:04] <KrazyKrl> the SSME's
turbopumps are ~50,000 HP by comparison.
L401[22:52:11] <KrazyKrl> yep.
L402[22:52:57] <Althego> they had a cam on
the top stage, but somehow they didnt have coveerage during
deployment
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L404[22:53:45] <Althego> i really want
theis new space age
L405[22:53:48] <KrazyKrl> probably didn't
have a video link, or the capability. since they are in a polar
orbit.
L406[22:53:52] <Althego> that didnt happen
during the 70s
L407[22:54:13] <KrazyKrl> we're already in
the space age, rockets are going up almost daily.
L408[22:54:31] <Althego> not if every one
is an event
L409[22:55:00] <Althego> you dont see an
airplane taking off in the news, in contrast to rockets
L410[22:55:27] <KrazyKrl> well, most of
the launches are proven technology that isn't expected to be that
exciting.
L411[22:55:32] <Althego> and they
generated flat earth cgi footage :)
L412[22:55:57] <KrazyKrl> i mean, you
kinda need to unless you have a spherical computer monitor or
television.
L413[22:59:54] <Althego> hehe i meant the
horizon was flat because it was far away from the center of the
camera, but this is going to fuel flat earthers
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