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L9[01:13:56] <Eddi|zuHause> not having looked at the picture in question, don't lines being far away from the center usually make them more curved?
L10[01:15:18] <Althego> usually the camera is such that the curve is away from the center. since the horizon was below the center this compensated it to a straight line
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L12[01:16:36] <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, right... early morning :p
L13[01:16:58] <Althego> because you can still accuse spacex to be in on the conspiracy with nasa
L14[01:17:12] <Eddi|zuHause> why would they stop that? :p
L15[01:17:22] <Rolf> earth IS locally flat
L16[01:17:26] <Althego> but cant say that for a company that is in new zealand
L17[01:17:28] <Eddi|zuHause> i'm assuming that's a lucrative business
L18[01:17:58] <Althego> depends on the scale, i bet it is quite not flat at planck length :)
L19[01:18:00] <Eddi|zuHause> oh i can say loads of things about new zealand being infiltrated by american spies
L20[01:18:14] <Rolf> Althego: lol true
L21[01:18:30] <Eddi|zuHause> can curves even exist on planck length scale?
L22[01:19:16] <Rolf> since you cant even define the location at that scale, no.
L23[01:19:26] <Eddi|zuHause> i mean, new zealand is after all one of the "five eyes" states
L24[01:19:37] <Eddi|zuHause> you don't get that for nothing
L25[01:19:41] <Althego> what is that
L26[01:19:47] <Rolf> wow where people has 5 eyes?
L27[01:19:58] <Rolf> I thought 2 eyes are standard
L28[01:20:14] <Althego> basically english speaking spy allaince
L29[01:20:29] <Althego> i have never heard of that
L30[01:21:51] <Eddi|zuHause> you know, once upon a time there was this edward snowden dude
L31[01:22:34] <Eddi|zuHause> who was kinda a big deal in germany
L32[01:23:05] <Kalpa> G-Germany?
L33[01:23:12] <Eddi|zuHause> for the german government, because they apparently weren't invited for this party, and for everyone else because of "wtf? this is even worse than all the conspiracy theories"
L34[01:23:24] <Althego> hehe
L35[01:23:37] <Althego> as usualy reality is stranger than fiction
L36[01:23:49] <Kalpa> But where's the flat earth
L37[01:24:02] <Althego> in people's minds
L38[01:25:32] <Eddi|zuHause> isn't it obvious? the 5 eyes are all along the corner of the flat earth, so they can spy on everyone in the center, which is germany.
L39[01:25:42] <Althego> hehe
L40[01:26:18] <Eddi|zuHause> (never mind this china dude who always claims to be in the center)
L41[01:27:47] <Eddi|zuHause> (sidetrack: since today is WWI celebration day and all: germany was part of the "central powers" in that)
L42[01:28:09] <Althego> who would want to celebrate that?
L43[01:28:42] <Eddi|zuHause> well, nobody, everyone in germany is celebrating "fasching" (carneval) instead
L44[01:29:54] <Kalpa> What is this new zealandian space program anyway
L45[01:30:04] <Althego> it is not that
L46[01:30:12] <Althego> a private company with its own launch site and rocket
L47[01:30:17] <Althego> rocketlabs
L48[01:30:29] <Althego> with a tiony orbital rocket powered by electric turbopump engines
L49[01:30:47] <Althego> the electron rocket with rutherford engines
L50[01:31:01] <Eddi|zuHause> just to be sure: this is the same company that launched that shiny space orb a few months ago?
L51[01:31:12] <Althego> the second stage discards batteries instead of staging lol
L52[01:31:13] <Draconiator> Seriously that rocket is like 12 feet longer than my house.
L53[01:31:20] <Althego> yes this is the same
L54[01:31:50] <Althego> and it was a some kind of facetted body instead of a sphere
L55[01:32:29] <Draconiator> I don't think I ever saw that thing.
L56[01:32:35] <Eddi|zuHause> you mean there is no unifying theory between an orb and a flat surface?
L57[01:32:37] <Althego> https://www.skyandtelescope.com/observing/humanity-star/
L58[01:32:39] <Althego> here it is
L59[01:32:44] <Althego> and the ceo of rocketlabs
L60[01:33:14] <Draconiator> was pretty damn excited to actually CONFIRM I saw a Japanese defunct satellite though.
L61[01:33:19] <Draconiator> That was neat.
L62[01:33:40] <Althego> but this time they launched like 6 tiny cubesats
L63[01:33:52] <Eddi|zuHause> i only ever heard about it in context of "well, we hate it, because it destroys our scientific space pictures"
L64[01:34:13] <Althego> exactly
L65[01:34:16] <Althego> most people hated it
L66[01:34:20] <Althego> but that was morel ike a t ech demo
L67[01:34:28] <Althego> it generated free ads :)
L68[01:34:59] <Althego> and since they finished their first paid for launch successfully, the future got brigther for them
L69[01:36:04] <Eddi|zuHause> well, i didn't really care either way, since i'm not into making space pictures
L70[01:36:57] <Eddi|zuHause> as far as the "tech demo" part, i guess it's not that much different from launching a car...
L71[01:37:47] <Althego> tyes but they could have launch maybe a gokart
L72[01:37:51] <Althego> at best
L73[01:37:56] <Althego> or not even that
L74[01:39:04] <Eddi|zuHause> anyway, that thingie is a reasonable approximation of a "sphere" by most measures
L75[01:40:56] <Althego> in the 80s it was :)
L76[01:42:05] <Althego> or maybe it is even today, with good enough shaders
L77[02:13:56] <GlassYuri> I have an inquiry to the shanghai immigration authority
L78[02:14:18] <GlassYuri> their web form requires a postal code, but the character limit is too low for mine
L79[02:14:27] <Althego> hehe
L80[02:15:06] <GlassYuri> what is better, giving them an invalid code or editing their client side verification and entering the correct one
L81[02:15:18] <Althego> lol
L82[02:15:22] <Althego> hack them
L83[02:15:39] <Althego> i am sure then the backend would fail in some unexpected way
L84[02:15:50] <GlassYuri> the question is about a railway ticket which I have to present when entiring china that can also only be bought in china
L85[02:16:00] <GlassYuri> that's what I'm worried about
L86[02:16:41] <Althego> then you have to go through china :)
L87[02:16:56] <GlassYuri> my postcode has a dash and some leading zeroes after it, I'm just gonna omit them
L88[02:17:04] <Althego> maybe you could try teleport and parachute too
L89[02:17:40] <GlassYuri> jump the airport fence
L90[02:18:07] <GlassYuri> don't need no permission to commit crimes
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L93[02:35:01] <Eddi|zuHause> "what do you mean other countries have more than 5 digit postal codes?"
L94[02:35:39] <taniwha> "what do you mean by 'other countries'?"
L95[02:35:47] <taniwha> (the impression I got sometimes)
L96[02:36:02] <Althego> hehe
L97[02:36:23] <Eddi|zuHause> how is it possible the customers of the immigration office are from *other countries*?
L98[02:36:31] <Althego> hehe
L99[02:37:27] <taniwha> or more fun: "You need some valid id." *present passport* "That's not valid id.", "Yes it is, it's the most valid id available."
L100[02:37:41] <taniwha> (to average people, at least)
L101[02:38:04] <Eddi|zuHause> nobody ever questioned my expired ID...
L102[02:38:12] <taniwha> (iirc, the bank was expecting a drivers license)
L103[02:38:21] <Althego> hehe
L104[02:38:24] <Rolf> passport is much stronger id than mere driver id
L105[02:38:31] <Althego> which wouldnt qualify as an id here
L106[02:38:37] <taniwha> Rolf: exactly
L107[02:38:50] <Althego> you can have your actual id or a passport
L108[02:38:55] <taniwha> 'twas an underling, though
L109[02:39:11] <taniwha> an upper came in and said "yup, that's valid"
L110[02:39:18] <Althego> driver's licence is used only to determine if you are allowed to drive the vehicle
L111[02:39:44] <Eddi|zuHause> some of these underlings never accept anything out-of-the-ordinary-but-technically-valid
L112[02:40:30] <taniwha> I suspect she had never seen a passport
L113[02:40:51] <Rolf> I kinda doubt thats legit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XOy6V9g2mw but cool!
L114[02:41:03] <Eddi|zuHause> i've only heard about drivers licences being acceptable ID from america
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L116[02:42:19] <Althego> i never understood what do they do with people who dont have a driver's licence?
L117[02:42:28] <Rolf> theres regular id
L118[02:42:28] <Althego> or if they cant, like blind people
L119[02:42:36] <Althego> but in films they never have id
L120[02:42:39] <Althego> they have only the licence
L121[02:42:51] <Eddi|zuHause> Althego: that's how you keep poor people away from voting
L122[02:43:47] <Eddi|zuHause> because poor people have likely no drivers license, and other id types are barely known
L123[02:44:16] <Eddi|zuHause> and by "poor" they usually mean "black or mexican"
L124[02:44:21] <Althego> i thought public transport in the usa is so bad you practically have to have a car
L125[02:44:26] <Rolf> other ways to do voting control is much lower numbers of polling places in poorer areas
L126[02:44:32] <Rolf> Althego: it is
L127[02:44:53] <Eddi|zuHause> Althego: that's why not having a car is a guarantee of staying poor
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L130[03:10:05] <Eddi|zuHause> finally a realistic depiction of german politics https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ut_zL6INL0
L131[03:11:12] <Althego> hehe
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L133[03:12:41] <Althego> anglea, say something got me
L134[03:13:03] <Althego> because of her reply
L135[03:16:16] <Eddi|zuHause> well, it wouldn't surprise me if that's the key phrase they remember her by in >20 years
L136[03:16:32] <Althego> that is quite sure already
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L138[03:27:19] <Rolf> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ssQh-CdL1Q MAN! thats tough game!
L139[03:27:56] <Althego> eh i cant stand the guy's voice
L140[03:28:05] <Rolf> just mute and turn on caption
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L148[04:30:25] <Overland> Goodevening :)
L149[04:30:48] <sandbox> morning
L150[04:40:23] <Althego> noon :)
L151[04:47:50] <Overland> somehow, embrace - fireworks song feels like a kerbal song.. or land train song.. dunno how.. just has that same failure feeling when things go wrong :) nice
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L153[04:53:46] <Overland> kind of a soundtrack to a failed rescue mission no? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsHURcJCp-4 :)
L154[04:55:45] <Gasher> "your rescue mission now requires a rescue mission"
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L156[05:00:17] <sandbox> 11:00
L157[05:01:16] <Overland> havent been in KSP for better part of 1 and a half years, much happened with wheels since then? they still springy and horrible?
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L176[06:04:39] <Eclipser> ..... sorry
L177[06:04:51] <UmbralRaptop> …
L178[06:05:01] <Eclipser> carrying my laptop around carelessly -.-
L179[06:05:07] <Rolf> lol
L180[06:05:23] <Eddi|zuHause> haven't heard that kind of excuse lately
L181[06:06:27] <Eclipser> had to squeeze through a tight place to get out of the kitchen full of people -.-
L182[06:06:52] <Eddi|zuHause> you know they let you close the lid on these things?
L183[06:07:07] <Eclipser> yeaah... I rarely do that :p
L184[06:07:24] <Rolf> chatting on irc while has lots guests tsk tsk
L185[06:07:37] <Eclipser> I hate people :p
L186[06:10:08] <UmbralRaptop> All too often people on IRC are more interesting than people in meatspace
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L200[08:58:47] <Althego> ben daglish died a few days ago. composer of lot of classic c64 tunes
L201[08:59:04] <Althego> oh wait, more than a month
L202[08:59:10] <Althego> and i didnt even know it
L203[09:11:18] <darsie> Althego: Did you use the C64?
L204[09:11:31] <darsie> #metoo
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L208[09:28:02] <Althego> i did
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L210[09:44:56] <UmbralRaptop> darsie
L211[09:45:03] <darsie> .
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L234[13:30:21] <Althego> i bet scott makes an electron video by the time i arrive to work tomorrow
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L236[13:34:11] * darsie bets 20 dogecoin againts it.
L237[13:45:58] <sandbox> https://twitter.com/DCDeacon/status/1061702496765333505
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L287[18:38:51] <mabus> thought i saw a jet or something last night
L288[18:38:54] <mabus> While not a particularly active shower (you're lucky to get more than 5-8 meteors per hour) this one does produce fireballs. These slow-moving, very bright meteors are memorable if you get lucky enough to see one
L289[18:39:06] <mabus> but its the taurids tho for sure
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L295[19:16:17] <mabus> yup saw a few more meteors since then in same general area. none as spectacular as the one last night though. im lucky i saw it.
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L312[23:37:03] <Althego> scott disappointed me. no electron video
L313[23:38:35] <Eddi|zuHause> poor you, the random famous internet dude didn't do what you said.
L314[23:39:14] <Eddi|zuHause> i'm sure people have commited suicide over similar issues
L315[23:40:15] <Althego> hehe
L316[23:42:40] <Rolf> lol
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