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L25[04:08:45] <mabus> are those
weapons
L26[04:09:13] <Gasher_> yes
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L29[04:13:27] <Rolf> I dare you... flying
brick. no wings
L30[04:13:46] <Rolf> in fact, it must be
brick besides back end
L31[04:14:12] <Rolf> it must look like
complete brick even when looking at side of it
L32[04:14:13] <Gasher_> i'd say brick could
be easier cause it's symmetrical
L33[04:16:10] <Rolf> lol ok
L34[04:17:16] <Gasher_> Rolf, also some of
the mods there give slider of weight - strenght so the thing is
light
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L36[04:19:06] <Eclipser> didn't scott
already do the flying brick
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L38[04:22:54] <Eddi|zuHause> to me it
somehow looks a transformer got stuck halfway through
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L41[04:38:49] <Eddi|zuHause> how to tell
google i'm looking for wine (the program) and not wine (the
drink)?
L42[04:39:10] <Rolf> windows wine
L43[04:39:24] <Rolf> (there is actual
windows wine that you drink but thats rare)
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L45[04:39:53] <Eddi|zuHause> query has also
"window" in it, still it's like 70% actual wine
results
L46[04:40:19] <Rolf> google broke how
searching works
L47[04:40:26] <Rolf> so boolean dont
work
L48[04:40:45] <Rolf> maybe duckgogo
something? they have claimed they work like old google does
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L50[04:41:17] <Eddi|zuHause> i've never had
useful results on duckduckgo
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L53[04:47:19] <Eddi|zuHause> just in case
anyone here knows, in regular wine i can run programs in a
simulated desktop, which i usually do with some fullscreen programs
that "misbehave" during alt-tab. anyone know how i can do
that with the steam version of wine?
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L57[04:50:13] <Rolf> how about literal just
windows? in vm
L58[04:50:17] <Rolf> theres free vms
L59[04:50:41] <Eddi|zuHause> vms tend to
have a hard time with 3D graphics
L60[04:50:58] <Rolf> yeah that is sucky
side of vm
L61[04:51:10] <Eddi|zuHause> so that is a
definite no
L62[04:51:14] <Rolf> you could add another
card and use that just for vms but thats extra hardware
L63[04:51:22] <Eddi|zuHause> also, i lose
the whole deal of the steam integration
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L77[07:04:47] <Althego> am i the only one
that feels the main menu rows are now diverging towards the
left?
L78[07:05:29] <UmbralRaptop> Not sure,
could be the 3D effect?
L79[07:05:58] <Althego> there in the
captured image too, even when it is smaller and i move it
around
L81[07:07:31] <Althego> the bottom rows are
sloping down to the left, the top rows are sloping up to the
left
L82[07:08:03] <Althego> maybe they are on
an invisible layer in 3d space
L83[07:08:11] <Althego> and were moved
since 1.4
L84[07:08:45] <Althego> and the font still
has bad kerning (also see xkcd)
L86[07:15:18] <kmath> YouTube - Пуск РН
«Союз-ФГ» с ТПК «Союз МС-10»
L87[07:17:27] <UmbralRaptop> Althego: yeah,
it's trying to look 3D like the right side is tilted away from
you.
L88[07:18:54] <Althego> hehe, we can
clearly see the left booster hitting the core instead of
separating
L89[07:18:56] <Althego> so kerbal
like
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L91[07:19:16] <Althego> how did they get
this footage? was it stored onboard?
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L93[07:20:01] <Althego> based on the huge
flip we can see it was really the right choice to separate the
capsule
L94[07:20:24] <Althego> even though the
rocket remained mostly intact
L95[07:21:19] <Gasher[work]> Althego, no
idea - i can't remember them publishing such footage before
L96[07:21:28] <Althego> i do
L97[07:21:30] <Althego> there ore
some
L98[07:21:37] <JVFoxy> ... something happen
or this in-game?
L99[07:21:44] <Althego> lol
L100[07:21:49] <Gasher[work]> lol
L101[07:21:52] <Althego> you must have
been living under a rock
L102[07:22:08] <Althego> or maybe just
somewhere in alabama
L103[07:22:10] <JVFoxy> just got on..
which rocket we talk'n about?
L104[07:22:25] <Althego> remember the
soyuz accident?
L105[07:22:34] <Gasher[work]> the failed
ISS crew flight
L107[07:22:41] <Althego> eh not this
L109[07:22:48] <kmath> YouTube - Пуск РН
«Союз-ФГ» с ТПК «Союз МС-10»
L110[07:23:05] <JVFoxy> ah.. booster
bump..
L111[07:23:14] <JVFoxy> thought something
else was launched and yet another failure
L112[07:24:20] <Gasher[work]> well there
was another failure recently indeed, but that's about
investigation
L113[07:28:23] <JVFoxy> china on teh
weekend
L114[07:28:29] <Gasher[work]> yeah
that
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L116[07:33:26] <JVFoxy> send one out to
orbital tour.. rescue 3 from orbit... ya I can do that one
mission
L117[07:36:54] <JVFoxy> ... eh...
L118[07:37:06] <JVFoxy> of course one of
them has to be in orbit way past the mun...
L119[07:39:20] <Gasher[work]> ".. far
above the Moon...."
L120[07:43:17] <JVFoxy> just a little past
mun orbit, 35 deg or so inclination.. ya know, just to make things
interesting
L121[07:43:22] <Althego> at least it is
not the typical i can do this, then when you get into orbit you
realize the target is in retrograde :)
L122[07:45:27] <JVFoxy> eh... well this
time not retro grade...
L123[07:45:50] <JVFoxy> though... wonder
how hard would be to sling around mun
L124[07:46:22] <JVFoxy> peh.. maybe not.
launch now.. I can correct for inclination, get out there by the
time he swings over
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L130[08:25:13] <Althego> and this is still
the simplest
L131[08:25:35] <Fluburtur> yeah
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L135[09:16:37] <JVFoxy> I seem to regret
doing missions that seem to take more than a few days..
L136[09:17:32] <JVFoxy> feel like I should
be doing another mission while waiting for some craft to reach a
waypoint that's a few days out.
L138[09:19:01] <JVFoxy> of course..
doesn't help soon as I switch off my current mission, there is no
going back.
L139[09:24:23] <Mat2ch> UmbralRaptop:
rofl. What a headline!
L140[09:24:52] <UmbralRaptop> Mat2ch:
yeah, they're dead
L141[09:29:39] <Mat2ch> bitcoin and
asteroid mining is dead.
L142[09:29:52] <Mat2ch> well, the latter
only for now
L143[09:35:42] <Althego> lol blockchain.
asteroid and cryptocurrency mining company
L144[09:36:08] <Althego> JVFoxy: i always
do missions in parallel
L145[09:36:29] <Althego> sometimes gets a
beat heated when several crafts return to kerbin in a quick
succession
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L147[09:37:29] <Mat2ch> is it possible to
fly two crafts simultaniously in ksp? With krpc e.g.?
L148[09:37:41] <Mat2ch> Or can there only
be one active craft?
L149[09:37:43] <Althego> there is burn
together or something
L150[09:38:41] <Mat2ch> I mean, I have
eight cores and 16 possible threads... sooooooo there should be
enough computation power for more than one craft ;)
L151[09:38:44] <Althego> there is some
company that wants to build an aerospike rocket, with a romanian
ceo, and the guy has like 15 lawsuits against him :)
L152[09:38:57] <Mat2ch> woah
L153[09:39:05] <Mat2ch> space business is
getting serious...
L154[09:39:09] <Althego> sounds about as
fishy and the blockchain and asteroid mining company
L155[09:39:51] <Mat2ch> hm
L157[09:40:12] <Mat2ch> i have to do the
monthly taxes and prepare a few things, but I'm not motivated to do
so
L158[09:40:16] <Althego> Popescu faced 13
counts of fraud, five counts of embezzlement, and one count of
forgery, according to an online arrest report.
L159[09:41:11] <Mat2ch> "In mid-May
2018, criminal charges were dismissed by a grand jury, after 14
hours of testimony and questioning. "
L160[09:41:29] <Mat2ch> not a
criminal
L161[09:41:34] <Mat2ch> says the
jury
L162[09:42:12] <Mat2ch> I still don't get
the concept of a jury. "Come, let's decide about the fate of a
person by 12 random people". Wat
L163[09:43:59] <Althego> maybe they
thought it is harder to influence since they are random
people
L164[09:44:26] <hoglahoo> and maybe not
every randomly selected person is approved
L165[09:45:01] <Althego> no, neil degrasse
tyson was dismissed several times because he was too objective
:)
L167[09:49:23] <kmath> YouTube - Neil
deGrasse Tyson on Jury Duty
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L184[11:26:41] <Althego> aaaaand scott
about the soyuz video
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L187[11:38:05] <Gasher> i can say only
swear words about the handling of that defect (and about making
it)
L188[11:40:15] <Althego> caused by a tiny
bent pin
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L192[11:55:01] <Althego> another one
dies
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L196[11:59:16] <Gasher> it's not pin
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L198[12:01:59] <Gasher> it's some else
type of connection
L199[12:02:02] <Gasher> * other
L200[12:03:43] <Gasher> lap joint where
the stem was bent
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L213[13:32:43] <Althego> yes but i didnt
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L265[16:57:06] <Neal> I'm so glad we can
finally load kerbals into command seats from the vab
L266[16:59:28] <Neal> ooo specular
reflections, is that new?
L267[17:00:10] <UmbralRaptor> On the Beep
beep Mk2? Yeah.
L268[17:02:14] *
BPlayer missed lots of new KSP things
L269[17:02:48] <BPlayer> Eh, /one day/ I
will catch up with it all!
L270[17:04:12] <Eddi|zuHause> someone sure
polished over this stayputnik
L271[17:04:59] *
Eddi|zuHause always thinks of kaputtnik when reading
that
L272[17:05:36] <BPlayer> As a person that
goes by the nickname "TheNik" and "Nik" in
other IRC networks, I am offended by that
L273[17:05:38] <BPlayer> :P
L274[17:09:00] <UmbralRaptor>
Eddi|zuHause: That's an acceptable misreading.
L275[17:13:34] <Eddi|zuHause> i'm assuming
that's a term that was also familiar to the KSP developers?
L276[17:14:33] <UmbralRaptor> Maybe.
Especially if one read up on the snark around the Vanguards
failing.
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L282[17:29:29] <Eddi|zuHause> i never
really knew the origin of that, before i just googled the term when
i said it in here
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L286[17:41:47] <falalilal> so, i put my
asteroid station in a wonky orbit by accident, but as it turns out
its on the same inclination(?) as minmus so woot!
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L288[17:46:27] <BPlayer> inclination is
the angle to the equator
L289[17:46:49] <BPlayer> We have a bot
that explains this sort of term, IIRC
L290[17:46:53] <BPlayer>
Inclination?
L291[17:46:59] <BPlayer> TWR?
L292[17:47:15] <BPlayer> No, looks like we
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L295[17:53:21] <falalilal> i usually think
of it as "the purple one"
L296[17:53:32] <falalilal> i'm playing
some high level kerbal here
L297[17:54:23] <UmbralRaptor> Eh, we can
always be annoying and dig of some PDFs of aerospace
textbooks
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L301[18:17:17] <BPlayer> Fluburtur: Which
way does it fly?
L302[18:17:57] <falalilal> whichever way
you like
L303[18:18:06] <falalilal> speeds may
vary
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L309[18:54:25] <BPlayer> That's a proper
throne
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L317[19:06:29] <JVFoxy> fuh.. trying to
pick up kerbal in badly inclined, just past the mun orbit.. really
wish they'd tell you about where the rescue would be.
L318[19:06:40] <JVFoxy> contract said
kerbin orbit.. wasn't expecting out beyond mun orbit
L319[19:06:48] <falalilal> can't you sort
of tell by the reward?
L320[19:07:06] <falalilal> big reward =
wonky orbit?
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L322[19:07:30] <JVFoxy> didn't exactly pay
attention.. was two other rescues and a tourist trip.. all kerbin
orbit
L323[19:08:00] <JVFoxy> although.. now
I'll use more caution next time
L324[19:08:11] <falalilal> i remember
being greedy once and picking the one with the big reward
L325[19:08:32] <falalilal> then i was like
"oh i need a new ship design for this"
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L328[19:17:33] <falalilal> i can already
tell this 3-part lander-rover/orbital-habitat/return-vehicle is
going to be a b to get in a 75 km orbit
L329[19:22:16] <JVFoxy> Fluburtur wow....
sure someone wasn't seeing doubles?
L330[19:22:35] <Fluburtur> I only care for
the highest quality bootleg
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L332[19:24:09] <falalilal> i am so blind
to marketing i didn't even notice the first time i looked
L333[19:27:41] <JVFoxy> if I could make my
own shoes.. I would. :\
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L335[19:28:19] <JVFoxy> mind you...
someone found an abandoned shoe store, still stocked from the
50s... a lot of people saying things were higher quality back then,
lasts longer. People would pay good money
L336[19:28:53] <Fluburtur> selective
memory is a thing
L338[19:29:15] <Fluburtur> I have a radio
from the late 40s and it works great, that maybe means all the crap
ones are gone
L340[19:29:47] <JVFoxy> Fluburtur does it
use tubes? ^.^
L341[19:30:01] <Fluburtur> yeah, no
transistors back then
L342[19:30:25] <JVFoxy> sweet, would love
to see it working.. been wanting to make one of my own. :(
L343[19:31:05] <JVFoxy> I don't care what
people way about some old tech... sometimes there is a bit of a
charm to them.
L345[19:31:14] <kmath> YouTube - 4.5
Watts
L346[19:31:23] <Fluburtur> I need to get
it out of the attic and use it again
L347[19:31:44] <Fluburtur> I also have one
from 1958
L348[19:31:50] <Fluburtur> I modded jack
plugs into both of them
L349[19:32:14] <Fluburtur> the more recent
one actually works as a guitar amp, gives that amazing tube
override sound
L350[19:32:59] <JVFoxy> ah... quite the
multi band for SW on it..
L351[19:33:20] <Fluburtur> the old ones
all have a pickup input
L353[19:33:32] <JVFoxy> I wish I had a
better setup for SW.. been sort of into radios long ago, even as a
kid.
L354[19:33:33] <Fluburtur> same format as
european power plugs for some reason
L355[19:34:54] <JVFoxy> In one of
CuriousMarc's videos, was talking about in the 50s-60s, a lot of
places didn't start using standards for plugs and power. Which is
why you see quite large power transformers for certain
equipment.
L356[19:35:18] <Fluburtur> I think my
older one is french made
L357[19:35:40] <Fluburtur> I found no
brand or numbers, most indicative was the magic eye tube which is
french made from the late 40s
L358[19:35:51] <Fluburtur> I guesstimate
around 49
L359[19:36:23] <Fluburtur> the other is a
super but 58, easy to find stuff on that one
L360[19:37:07] <JVFoxy> ya I'd like to
make a super... I know you can better out of a regen but a little
unsure on the controls
L361[19:37:41] <Fluburtur> making just the
amplifier part should be somewhat easy if you know about
tubes
L362[19:37:51] <Fluburtur> no idea about
the radio part tho
L363[19:38:01] <JVFoxy> I've a detector
tube...
L364[19:38:17] <Fluburtur> one of the
radio tube on mine is dead, the antifading I think
L365[19:38:21] <Fluburtur> trips the
breaker
L366[19:38:23] <JVFoxy> seems lot of what
I was able to salvage is mostly 12v
L367[19:38:35] <JVFoxy> ah.. short
L368[19:38:52] <JVFoxy> don't suppose you
know if rectifier is tubes also or?
L369[19:39:27] <Fluburtur> most of them
have a simple diode tube and some self or capacitor to regulate the
voltage
L370[19:39:39] <Fluburtur> with a
transformer of course
L371[19:40:04] <JVFoxy> ya the transformer
part is something I'm worried about
L372[19:40:07] <Fluburtur> I think you
need 6.3v for the heater filament, other voltages can vary
more
L373[19:40:45] <JVFoxy> my shop I used to
work at, I found it easier to replace a transformer for a bag
sealer than to just buy a new sealer, but it did cost a bit for a
place to make a new coil
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L375[19:41:12] <JVFoxy> does it matter if
its AC or DC?
L376[19:41:22] <Fluburtur> for the
heater?
L377[19:41:25] <JVFoxy> ya
L378[19:41:59] <Fluburtur> not so much, AC
can induce some buzzing in direct heater tubes but DC is more of a
luxury
L379[19:42:09] <Fluburtur> but it doesn't
matter for indirect heated ones
L380[19:42:44] <JVFoxy> ok so either or..
mostly wanted to test, see if at least heaters working. Finding
sockets or making going to be interesting
L381[19:43:16] <Fluburtur> most sockets
are standard
L382[19:43:21] <Fluburtur> 7 or 9 pin
ones, not sure
L383[19:43:24] <JVFoxy> I know its just
finding them
L384[19:43:40] <Fluburtur> like the ones
used for the 12AX7 or AL84
L385[19:43:55] <Fluburtur> btw it is a
AL84 in both of my radios as power amp tube
L386[19:43:55] <JVFoxy> I've two or three
sizes.. the rectifiers are probably the biggest of them
L387[19:44:07] <Fluburtur> 4.5w of output
power, 9w for heating heh
L388[19:44:11] <JVFoxy> 12AX7... see if I
got one.
L389[19:44:14] <Fluburtur> talk about
efficiency
L390[19:44:22] <Fluburtur> the 12ax7 run
on lower voltage
L391[19:44:26] <Fluburtur> double
triodes
L392[19:44:32] <Fluburtur> can run as low
as 12v
L393[19:44:48] <JVFoxy> most of what I got
is 12v
L394[19:44:49] <Fluburtur> I have a guitar
amp with one
L395[19:44:56] <JVFoxy> oh.. 12AU7
L396[19:45:05] <Fluburtur> it is a hybrid,
12ax7 as preamp for the sound and then a transistor amp
L397[19:45:07] <Fluburtur> similar
L398[19:46:46] <Fluburtur> anyways I need
to go, I will try to get some footage of the radios tomorrow
L399[19:47:05] <JVFoxy> Couple versions of
fullwave rectifiers, RF/IF stage Pentodes, a 6AQ5 audio power
output tetrode 10w output, 6T8 combined AM-FM detector, audio freq
voltage amp.
L400[19:47:31] <JVFoxy> ah ok.. all best
then
L402[19:48:49] <kmath> YouTube -
hohoho
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L404[19:49:52] <Fluburtur> putting my
fingers dangerously close to high voltage
L405[19:49:54] <Fluburtur> always
fun
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L410[20:33:20] <falalilal> do you reckon a
lander for moho can also land on vall and tylo?
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L413[20:39:08] <UmbralRaptor> Vall
probably, Tylo doubtful
L414[20:46:43] <falalilal> well, the moho
lander had some fuel left, i'm gonna give it go
L415[20:51:16] <UmbralRaptor> Bear in mind
that Tylo is 80% the mass of Kerbin.
L416[20:51:37] <falalilal> I am a rebel,
so I will wolf it in mind instead.
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L418[20:53:10] <falalilal> without
attempting to do math, thats like 1500-1700 ms?
L419[20:53:35] <falalilal> and i'd need
some 500 ms for the decent
L420[20:54:13] <falalilal> descent*
L421[20:54:26] <falalilal> my head
hurts
L422[20:55:52] <falalilal> i could put the
lander-satellite in a 30 km orbit around moho, it'll be ok
L423[20:57:22] <UmbralRaptor> ;c
sqrt(9.8*0.8*600e3^2/700e3)
L424[20:57:23] <kmath> UmbralRaptor:
2007.984063681781315
L425[20:58:03] <falalilal> if i understand
this right i'm an effing genius
L426[20:58:08] <falalilal> yes?
L427[20:58:30] <UmbralRaptor> So for a 100
km Tylo orbit, you're moving at 2 km/s.
L428[20:59:15] <UmbralRaptor> ;c
sqrt(9.8*0.8*600e3)
L429[20:59:16] <kmath> UmbralRaptor:
2168.870673876153456
L430[20:59:58] <UmbralRaptor> 2169 m/s
(nice) if you could do an orbit at datum without hitting a
mountain.
L431[21:00:14] <UmbralRaptor> Transfers
are a bit more complicated.
L432[21:11:43] <falalilal> haha, one
straight burn from lift-off and i'm on an intercept with tylo
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AM
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