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L30[04:30:50] <Rolf> Althego: so we went the whole loop
L31[04:31:08] <Rolf> from rubik, machines solving rubik, and now rubik solving itself
L32[04:31:23] <Rolf> whats next? rubik solving machines?
L33[04:39:49] <Althego> hehe
L34[04:41:14] <Rolf> it would get scary when rubik cubes arrive final point of cycle: rubiks solving humans
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L39[05:19:35] * Eddi|zuHause just imagines stargate-style replicators made of rubiks cubes
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L45[05:32:11] <Gasher[work]> Eddi|zuHause, borg rubic cubes
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L47[05:33:03] <Eddi|zuHause> that's, *trek, not *gate :p
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L49[05:34:31] <Gasher[work]> it was another association, not explanation of yours
L50[05:34:52] <Eddi|zuHause> on a completely unrelated note: if in nordic languages "sk" is pronounced like english "sh", do they pronounce "Scandinavia" as "shandinavia"?
L51[05:36:07] <Gasher[work]> 'sk' and 'sc' seems to be different at a glance lol
L52[05:36:49] <Eddi|zuHause> but that is english's fault mainly
L53[05:37:30] <Eddi|zuHause> it's "Skandinavien" in german, which i presume is closer to the original
L54[05:38:46] <Eddi|zuHause> also supported by the region name "Skåne"
L55[05:39:02] <Eddi|zuHause> which in german is occasionally transcribed as "Schonen"
L56[05:39:16] <Eddi|zuHause> which also supports the above theory
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L59[05:56:33] <Gasher[work]> germanic languages, so yeah, might be similar
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L96[10:21:30] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/429717171002933269/495253571802103818/DSC_9686.JPG
L97[10:24:45] <Althego> we can rebuild him!
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L99[10:28:41] <Fluburtur> it became german
L100[10:34:17] <Althego> how?
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L103[10:41:02] <APlayer> Deserted
L104[10:41:26] <Althego> yes, the channel is quite deserted :)
L105[10:41:35] <Fluburtur> yellow nose
L106[10:42:39] <UmbralRaptor> If it desserted, what would it become?
L107[10:42:53] <Althego> with a yellow nose? vanilla puding
L108[10:43:28] <APlayer> Planilla Pudding
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L118[11:13:29] <Althego> #destroyalldrills
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L120[11:26:11] <Althego> i think the best revenge i can get for decades of listening to people drilling, is to buy a drill myself
L121[11:26:21] <Althego> and use it
L122[11:26:34] <Althego> 8-20h
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L133[11:39:52] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y7vs-_-c90
L134[11:39:52] <kmath> YouTube - How To Colonize The Moon And Mars With Andy Weir
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L137[11:55:24] <Althego> finally scott about hayabusa 2
L138[12:13:16] <Althego> hmm, next time is zubrin, have to watch that too
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L145[13:32:44] <Draconiator> https://www.yahoo.com/news/strange-particles-coming-earth-hint-154800300.html
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L151[13:37:39] <darsie> Fairing still have high drag if they are the root part. http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot55.png goes to 750 km Ap, but only to 223 km if the fairing is the root part.
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L155[13:56:48] <R4z3r> Hi @ all
L156[13:57:14] <Althego> hi
L157[13:57:15] <Mod9000> Hello, Althego
L158[13:57:17] <Althego> argh
L159[13:57:28] <Althego> i hate when it does this
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L161[14:01:49] <UmbralRaptor> … got responses and still left?
L162[14:02:06] <Althego> not fast/intersting enouygh
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L167[14:30:36] <Draconiator> https://i.gyazo.com/0d1b86b86ebd530874032685b0b3ed96.png
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L174[14:47:35] <Draconiator> LOL, experimenting with the thing and it's so heavy it ruins the runway on takeoff.
L175[14:47:53] <Rolf> lol
L176[14:48:00] <Rolf> gets expensive
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L179[14:57:11] <Guest68112> Hello
L180[14:57:13] <Mod9000> Hello, Guest68112
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L186[15:20:35] <MARS18> Hello anyone online
L187[15:20:47] <darsie> .
L188[15:21:16] <MARS18> Hello darsie
L189[15:21:21] <darsie> .
L190[15:21:56] <MARS18> Is there an update on the RSS mod for ksp 1.4.5 ??
L191[15:22:04] <darsie> dunno
L192[15:22:23] <darsie> Maybe #ro knows.
L193[15:22:46] <MARS18> Hmmm. I'll ask there
L194[15:23:08] <darsie> Have you checked ckan?
L195[15:23:31] <MARS18> Can you post the link to #ro
L196[15:23:43] <darsie> #ro
L197[15:24:12] <MARS18> No im not a fan of ckan
L198[15:25:36] <Mat2ch> darsie: you have to add that MARS18 should write: /join #ro
L199[15:25:49] <Mat2ch> not everybody knows all the IRC commands :)
L200[15:26:06] <darsie> Well, she joined here, so I thought she would be able to join #ro, too.
L201[15:31:41] <Fluburtur> Mat2ch look https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/429717171002933269/495253571802103818/DSC_9686.JPG
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L205[15:49:33] <transitbiker> bwoop
L206[15:49:41] <Fluburtur> bwoop
L207[15:49:44] <transitbiker> as promised, ksp livestream!
L208[15:49:45] <transitbiker> https://gaming.youtube.com/channel/UCZuDQkMA5GF3Jh29ElK3-uQ/live
L209[15:53:01] <Rolf> burrrry it
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L211[15:54:15] <Rolf> live show thanks to nonecludian deptartment, motto "when tringle angles doesnt add to 180 degrees, here we are!"
L212[15:54:30] <transitbiker> hah
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L214[15:59:16] <Rolf> I still remember some of interesting designs I pulled off
L215[16:01:22] <Rolf> also some... interesting design flaws lol
L216[16:01:39] <Rolf> I had one lander that had ladders a little high
L217[16:01:50] <Rolf> on kerbin its ok as can jump and grab
L218[16:01:56] <Rolf> on mun it was very easy
L219[16:02:08] <Rolf> minimun it was nearly impossible
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L221[16:02:25] <Rolf> almost failed mission there because of that. luckly I figured a way
L222[16:02:38] <transitbiker> heh
L223[16:03:03] <Rolf> i just jumped and carefully landed on one of side motors and carefully walked to ladder
L224[16:06:55] <transitbiker> most of my aircraft can "kneel" to allow kerbals to re-board
L225[16:07:31] <Fluburtur> one of my fighters has two wheels in the nose, one steerable for ground handling and the main one for landign and takeoff
L226[16:07:32] <Rolf> not my lander, it was great moon lander, great design besides ladder
L227[16:07:52] <Rolf> it even had landing lights so it was very easy to know when to slow down and land
L228[16:08:00] <transitbiker> tandem?
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L230[16:08:53] <Fluburtur> one short steering one and one big
L231[16:08:57] <Rolf> 4 downwards pointing lights
L232[16:09:05] <Fluburtur> I wish the bigger wheels were steerable
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L234[16:09:21] <Rolf> going past TV isnt that waste of energy?
L235[16:11:21] <Rolf> damn youre good
L236[16:11:49] <Rolf> issues with mass balance?
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L238[16:17:52] <Rolf> thought you'd land plane. poor plane lol
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L240[16:38:31] <transitbiker> one sec, gotta put in dinner order online ^-^
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L242[16:59:40] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: pretty as usual :)
L243[17:02:28] <Fluburtur> yeah
L244[17:05:08] <Fluburtur> I want a krytron
L245[17:05:11] <oren> That's waht I keep forgetting: landing lights
L246[17:06:10] <oren> I used to always put on a bunch of white ones and a blue one indicating the orientation
L247[17:07:28] <oren> orientation is mostly only important for takeoff though
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L257[17:42:48] <senray> Any advice on an airplane that yaws when braking?
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L266[18:07:49] <oren> senray: use two landing gear, not just one
L267[18:09:18] <transitbiker> -_-
L268[18:10:15] <senray> lol
L269[18:10:17] <oren> x_x
L270[18:10:43] <senray> i'll record it
L271[18:10:55] <oren> like, basically, even if you put the landing gear in the centre on the nose it woun
L272[18:11:04] <oren> actually be centred
L273[18:11:19] <oren> so there will be a torque
L274[18:12:24] <senray> It's not that.I get yaw from the horizontal stabilizer when braking through ~45 m/s
L275[18:12:31] <senray> Wait, two nose gear?
L276[18:13:02] <oren> yes
L277[18:13:24] <senray> hmm...let's see if that helps
L278[18:13:44] <senray> but does that explain why it would only happen when braking?
L279[18:14:12] <oren> yeah, the nose gear when braking is exerting a force
L280[18:14:20] <senray> hmm...let's see
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L282[18:16:14] <senray> that does not seem to have helped. I'll record it in shadowplay
L283[18:24:12] <oren> senray: what parts is your tailfin made of?
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L286[18:28:35] <oren> senray: I've replicated the problem, it can occur on a craft with no tailfin
L287[18:29:02] <senray> I'm restarting KSP, I forgot what the part was called lol
L288[18:29:09] <senray> I'll grab a picture too
L289[18:29:16] <senray> It's got a tailfin tho
L290[18:34:05] <transitbiker> when your craft is so well made that it takes 4 bounces to slow enough that the lift stops
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L292[18:37:38] <senray> My horizontal stabilizer is a B9 Elevon and a B9 structural wing
L293[18:38:11] <senray> er vertical stabilizer
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L295[18:39:44] <senraydesktop> https://imgur.com/a/4ytd4J7
L296[18:39:45] <kmath> https://i.imgur.com/UPgVZXw.jpg
L297[18:42:10] <oren> uh
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L299[18:42:39] <oren> try using the retractable landign gear and not tweakscaled mini landing gear
L300[18:43:58] <senray> think thats the issue? It's definitely not the gear, I Don't think, because I see on the aero visualization that I'm getting yaw on the side of the vertical stab
L301[18:44:32] <oren> senray: that's the vertical stabilizer trying to correct, probably
L302[18:45:01] <UmbralRaptor> I'd be tempted to delete the forward part of the central vstab
L303[18:45:32] <oren> also the airbrakes should be in back, not in front
L304[18:45:36] <senray> I need that to stabilize yaw
L305[18:46:07] <UmbralRaptor> Just the part that's potentially in front of the CoM
L306[18:47:31] <senray> I tried a run up and brake without the vertical stab at all, and it still yawed/rolled. Does that point to a gear issue?
L307[18:47:45] <UmbralRaptor> yeah
L308[18:47:54] <senray> Let's see if I move the airbrakes back
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L310[18:49:00] <UmbralRaptor> Probably the chute also?
L311[18:49:02] <senray> otherwise yeah, it's probably the gear, and I misled myself by looking at the aroviz
L312[18:49:13] <senray> I'm not using the chute to land
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L314[18:51:49] <senray> Let me just check: If it only happens around 45/ms and lower, does that point to gear or aero?
L315[19:06:39] <senray> Looks like just rieoff the brake briefly when that happens, and moving the airbrakes is good
L316[19:06:51] <senray> rieoff/s/letting off
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L327[20:10:00] * darsie rescued another Kerbal from Kerbin orbit.
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L330[20:28:20] <maltesh> Hmm.
L331[20:28:29] <UmbralRaptor> Is there a cloud of kerbal spores in LKO?
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L333[20:34:18] <darsie> mhm
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L335[20:48:28] <iplop> Anyone here familiar with professional thermography tools?
L336[20:51:14] <iplop> -Trying to figure out if there's anything to justify the $10k FLIR E95 vs the $4k Therm-App Pro
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L338[20:51:57] <iplop> therm-app's camera seems better in all respects
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L341[20:57:44] <iplop> FLIR makes me upset. Only their $6k+ cameras offer any benefit over my 13 year old thermal camera due to their stupid artificially imposed imaging limitations.
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L343[21:08:16] <iplop> and SEEK is full stupid with their datasheets --not sure why anyone would buy their camera with what little info their offer on their sensors
L344[21:20:19] <UmbralRaptor> ITAR limitations?
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L346[21:24:59] <senraydesktop> Being a space geek has convinced me that, whatever ITAR is, it should be repealed
L347[21:25:04] <Rolf> iplop: isnt there hacks to remome firmware limits?
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L349[21:41:17] <UmbralRaptor> ITAR feels especially silly once you notice what happened with ion and kerolox engines.
L350[21:57:04] <iplop> Rolf: Those don't work anymore
L351[21:57:17] <Rolf> oh too bad :(
L352[21:57:25] <iplop> they were a thing for 1 firmware revision on 1 model thermal camera
L353[21:57:31] <iplop> I wish I could get one of those
L354[21:57:45] <iplop> that camera was amazing after being unlocked
L355[21:59:16] <iplop> ITAR shouldn't be an issue for anything I'd need
L356[22:00:02] <iplop> my understanding is that ITAR mostly only becomes an issue with fancier optics and higher framerates
L357[22:00:58] <iplop> the limits imposed for thermal imaging cameras (so long as you don't leave the country with it) are pretty reasonable
L358[22:05:08] <iplop> cooled optics definitely run afoul of ITAR :v
L359[22:06:23] <iplop> using those and a bit of processing gets you a much increased effective imaging range (distance-wise)
L360[22:07:11] <iplop> why you won't see passive thermal imaging on any cars.. ever^
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L365[22:43:30] <Rolf> iplop: https://www.instructables.com/id/Make-Infrared-Thermal-Imaging-Camera-for-Cheap-Con/ ?
L366[22:44:02] <Rolf> guy loves to start all words with caps. ugh
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L369[23:13:47] <Neal> I think it's interesting that I can get gps receivers without any ITAR limits imported from china of all places
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L372[23:23:15] <Neal> UmbralRaptor, what happened with ion engines?
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