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L1[00:10:53] <TheKosmonaut> Nenkin lies!
L2[00:11:54] <Althego> what is nenkin? is that like otherkin? :)
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L5[00:34:00] <Glass|phone> TheKosmonaut: the evaluation after the presentation literally had "DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT YOU HAVE TO PAY THIS" as a question
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L7[00:38:22] <TheKosmonaut> You totally don't btw
L8[00:44:01] <Glass|phone> they seemed to deliberately mix up not being in and being in but not paying in the presentation
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L37[03:58:40] <GlassYuri> this is gonna be expensive https://twitter.com/3door_entrance/status/1036863633014185984 https://twitter.com/hk3077_rk/status/1036896024638287872
L38[03:58:40] <kmath> <3door_entrance> めり込んどるんやが #ミヤネ屋 https://t.co/rwuypDIkTN
L39[03:58:59] <Deddly> Oooh
L40[03:59:02] <Deddly> Ouch
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L42[04:05:40] <GlassYuri> https://twitter.com/Kongikeyaki46/status/1036873517826945024
L43[04:05:41] <kmath> <Kongikeyaki46> えーと僕の住んでる大阪は今こんな状況ですね ⏎ ちなみに4枚目は関西国際空港です ⏎ こちらからは以上です ⏎ ⏎ #台風21号 https://t.co/tagHIxmo9n
L44[04:08:06] <GlassYuri> and that fourth picture is not a ship terminal, that's the airport which the damaged bridge leads to
L45[04:13:09] <Deddly> Is this storm damage?
L46[04:13:11] <JVFoxy> its not often you see planes meet water... https://www.universalhub.com/files/styles/main_image/public/new/floodedjet.jpg?itok=bopWJTNn
L47[04:13:38] <JVFoxy> well other than float planes but that's another matter
L48[04:15:36] <JVFoxy> typhoon Jebi.. huh?
L49[04:17:10] <GlassYuri> Deddly, yes
L50[04:17:38] <GlassYuri> JVFoxy, lots of airports built on reclaimed land
L51[04:18:00] <GlassYuri> (might be more common in asia than elsewhere?)
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L53[04:18:46] <GlassYuri> this looks unreal https://twitter.com/_O512k/status/1036849377883566080
L54[04:18:46] <kmath> <_O512k> あずさの友達が送ってきたらしいんやけど、尾崎駅 ほんまにえぐいやんけ、 https://t.co/wRD2auxvJC
L55[04:19:45] <Deddly> Weird that none of this is on the news
L56[04:20:11] <Deddly> (bbc)
L57[04:25:27] <Kalpa> Certainly is #1 news on Finnish National Broadcaster's frontpage
L58[04:30:03] <GlassYuri> https://twitter.com/mr_bear_3/status/1036873772274335744
L59[04:30:03] <kmath> <mr_bear_3> ワクドナルドになってるやん https://t.co/AZVYDyISNP
L60[04:30:51] <Deddly> I hope the people are OK
L61[04:31:15] <Deddly> Nooooo, not the Mc D's sign!!
L62[04:31:31] <Deddly> Or, should I say, the Wc D's sign
L63[04:32:45] <GlassYuri> Deddly, I've seen a large amount of very near deaths but no reports of deaths so far
L64[04:33:06] <GlassYuri> I'd still assume that there may be a double digit death count
L65[04:33:25] <Deddly> :(
L66[04:33:58] <JVFoxy> GlassYuri sign of Warrio?
L67[04:34:14] <GlassYuri> https://twitter.com/yoji0205/status/1036864142777278465
L68[04:34:14] <kmath> <yoji0205> 社長から画像送られてきたけど ⏎ 台風の影響で南港の中終わってるわ ⏎ ⏎ ここまでひどいと思わんかったな https://t.co/HpgIUvkXWP
L69[04:34:19] <GlassYuri> JVFoxy, wat?
L70[04:34:35] <Deddly> OK just now it appeared on BBC News
L71[04:34:37] <JVFoxy> Mc D fallen..
L72[04:34:44] <Deddly> https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-45406857
L73[04:35:56] <Deddly> "No reports of casualties" so far
L74[04:37:39] <Deddly> Oh man... imagine being in the left-hand seat https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/10FA2/production/_103283596_faa55969-ea96-4227-acb5-a23e67d7754c.jpg
L75[04:37:55] <JVFoxy> meh...
L76[04:39:41] <JVFoxy> truck hauling trailer full of cheese blocks flipped over in my area. Concrete barrier smashed into the A-pillar of the rig.. far as I know, passenger was shooken up pretty good, other than a few bumps and scratches..
L77[04:42:04] <JVFoxy> ... one would hope engineers did their diligence in testing those barriers, making sure things don't go over when hitting them but ya I see what you saying
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L79[04:43:45] <Deddly> True, but I was thinking of what it would be like to be the one hanging over the edge of the bridge
L80[04:46:01] <JVFoxy> or.. could go to las Vegas... https://4yoursensesonly.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/xsream.png
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L82[04:51:26] <sandbox> "Sony has ended its repair service for the PlayStation 2, more than 18 years after it first went on sale."
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L85[05:35:16] <Deddly> PS2 was my first and only console
L86[05:35:44] <Deddly> Bought it as a cheap DVD payer, and for Gran Turismo 2
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L91[05:46:30] <JVFoxy> I didn't really get into playstation, like nentindo, only a few games I liked. GT was cool series.
L92[05:47:04] <JVFoxy> first system..? well.. how far back do you want me to go?
L93[05:47:19] <Deddly> First console
L94[05:47:33] <Deddly> First system, well that's another story :) Amiga A500
L95[05:47:38] <Deddly> No
L96[05:47:45] <Deddly> Amstrad CPC 6128
L97[05:50:57] <GlassYuri> JVFoxy, you can find crash barrier tests on youtube
L98[05:51:23] <APlayer> 'morning!
L99[05:51:28] <JVFoxy> Fairchild Channel F, 1977.. year was born...
L100[05:52:42] <APlayer> Hah, you old folks boasting with your old consoles :P
L101[05:52:58] <JVFoxy> Atari 2400...
L102[05:53:16] <Deddly> Hey APlayer
L103[05:53:33] <JVFoxy> shrug... went through a few systems. parents eventually got frustrated and gave up getting things.
L104[05:53:41] <JVFoxy> and hellos
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L108[06:10:08] <GlassYuri> it appears that there is another destroyed tanker https://twitter.com/antel_/status/1036877625589870592
L109[06:10:08] <kmath> <antel_> 西宮ケーソンにタンカーが乗り上げてます ⏎ 甲子園浜では火災が発生 ⏎ ⏎ #大阪湾 ⏎ #台風21号 ⏎ #西宮ケーソン ⏎ #甲子園浜 https://t.co/z9Vn6x9ZrW
L110[06:10:45] <Deddly> Oh dear. I hope it was empty, at least
L111[06:12:15] <GlassYuri> if you scroll down it appears that this was actually a barge joined to a smaller ship, and did not actually break apart, instead hinging around the connection
L112[06:15:34] <GlassYuri> I didn't even know that that form of ship exists
L113[06:17:13] <Deddly> What about it is unfamiliar?
L114[06:17:34] <GlassYuri> that the pushing ship extends into a slot in the barge
L115[06:18:36] <Deddly> It's a barge? I thought it was a regular ship with a broken stern section
L116[06:18:58] <Deddly> I think you're right
L117[06:19:00] <GlassYuri> yeah that's what I thought at first at well
L118[06:19:23] <Deddly> Then there's the question of whether or not it's SUPPOSED to slot into the barge
L119[06:19:35] <Deddly> ...or if it just made a slot
L120[06:19:37] <GlassYuri> yes it is
L121[06:19:52] <GlassYuri> but in any way it's not supposed to sit on a breakwater
L122[06:20:37] <Deddly> Japan has had more than its fair share of weather phenomena
L123[06:20:44] <Deddly> and other disasters
L124[06:21:36] <GlassYuri> it seams that some of the worst affected areas of this typhoon were the same areas that got hit by the earthquake a few monts ago
L125[06:22:06] <GlassYuri> and in between that there was a flood I think
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L148[09:32:08] <Althego> https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1035615859304062976
L149[09:32:08] <kmath> <✔SpaceX> Forward hatch view of Dragon departing the @Space_Station earlier this month. https://t.co/L1Kc5XI0G7
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L152[09:57:47] <Mat2ch> soooo neeaat
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L176[11:36:13] <Fluburtur> I have aquired fiberglass
L177[11:36:17] <Fluburtur> and a whole bunch of resin
L178[11:36:20] <Fluburtur> for free
L179[11:36:33] <Fluburtur> amazing how talking to peoples around you can help you in your projects
L180[11:36:34] <Althego> hehe acquired fiberglass. quest unlocked
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L182[11:37:14] <Fluburtur> I can staort making th emolds for the plane intheory
L183[11:37:23] <Fluburtur> but the desing of the plane isn't finalized yet
L184[11:43:54] <Fluburtur> also I met a weird old man in the train
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L189[11:49:48] <Fluburtur> https://78.media.tumblr.com/d31c0890bac48dc22253783141018bc6/tumblr_inline_p7spfbuCt41vwb5ph_500.jpg
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L191[11:52:58] <Althego> so what about the weird old man?
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L205[13:29:54] * darsie fetched another surface sample of Duna.
L206[13:30:16] <JVFoxy> eventually... I"ll get out there.
L207[13:30:21] <darsie> With a simpler rocket.
L208[13:30:58] <JVFoxy> ... oh?
L209[13:31:16] <darsie> Yeah. I removed a stage.
L210[13:31:20] <Althego> or a bigger on
L211[13:31:21] <Althego> e
L212[13:31:24] <darsie> The rest had enough dv.
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L214[13:33:05] <JVFoxy> Duna hard to launch back off from?
L215[13:33:58] <darsie> nah
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L217[13:34:12] <Althego> less than 2000 m/s to orbit
L218[13:34:20] <Althego> around 750 back to kerbin
L219[13:34:36] <darsie> Large 1.25 m tank, terrier, piece of cake.
L220[13:35:11] <darsie> Half size tank probably works, too.
L221[13:35:25] <darsie> Or ... 8x and 4x tank.
L222[13:35:31] <JVFoxy> knowing how I go about things.. i'd probably spend a lot of time just trying to decide on mission style... doubt I'd go use a single mk1 pod all the way, nothing else.
L223[13:36:40] <darsie> I had a mission where my return vehicle ran out of fuel during ascent. I went on EVA, grabbed my data and jetpacked to orbit.
L224[13:37:20] <darsie> s/return vehicle/lander
L225[13:38:04] <JVFoxy> I'll probably have a carrier craft for doing transfers between planets.. dedicated lander/launch craft when at Duna
L226[13:39:15] <JVFoxy> a little worried I may have gone from constant, semi serious player to more just casual, mostly messing around
L227[13:41:39] <darsie> JVFoxy: My lander: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot18.png You may get away with half a size tank.
L228[13:42:35] <Althego> i recommand landers to be as flat as possible
L229[13:43:14] <JVFoxy> heh its cool. I'll probably do something bigger. Get more than a single crew to the surface. I'll work the figures, delta V
L230[13:44:10] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/425858490532102154/486595622598868992/435432_x-kurfa-d.jpg
L231[13:44:39] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/380846093002473475/486607353203130378/DSC_9608.JPG
L232[13:44:49] <darsie> JVFoxy: That's the complete rocket: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot19.png
L233[13:45:21] <darsie> Althego: Yeah, you need some luck to land on a level surface with this lander.
L234[13:45:40] <Althego> i prefer to leave luck out of the equation as i dont have any
L235[13:45:53] <Fluburtur> Althego luk at me plane
L236[13:46:12] <Althego> luke, i am your father :) (he did not say that)
L237[13:46:28] <Althego> ar you trying to shape the fiber glass by the printed body?
L238[13:46:40] <Fluburtur> no this one im just painting
L239[13:46:46] <Fluburtur> but there is a lot of fiber tape on it
L240[13:46:58] <darsie> Althego: But flat landers suck at going back to orbit through atmosphere.
L241[13:47:05] <Althego> not much on duna
L242[13:47:14] <Althego> at least angle the legs outward
L243[13:47:15] <darsie> yeah
L244[13:48:33] <JVFoxy> darsie docking port on side so you can get back, fuel again I'm guessing?
L245[13:49:13] <darsie> JVFoxy: Yeah. Lander gets back to orbit and refuels before going back home. Wasn't actually necessary, though.
L246[13:49:33] <Althego> too much complication
L247[13:49:52] <darsie> I forgot to jettison the used parachute and tried to dock with it.
L248[13:49:58] <Althego> i would just stage or use a duna orbit rendezvous
L249[13:50:03] <Althego> hehe
L250[13:50:34] <JVFoxy> meh, more like contingency plan..
L251[13:50:51] <JVFoxy> craft I made for Mun/Minmus, I just brought the lander back with me
L252[13:51:19] <JVFoxy> then again.. carrier doesn't exactly go back, crew has to transfer to kerbin lander craft at the station there
L253[13:51:41] <darsie> The previous rocket had a Dawn return vehicle in orbit. Total overkill.
L254[13:58:44] <JVFoxy> Guess I didn't have a screenshot without the info overlay, oh well. This is from a previous KSP version. Some reason I like the interior view. It also uses the older command pod. The newer one is half the weight. I no idea how new command pod would affect the handling https://imgur.com/a/sds0xGB
L255[13:58:44] <kmath> https://i.imgur.com/kFj3vJA.png
L256[13:59:06] <Althego> i sav a pic like this some time ago
L257[14:00:05] <JVFoxy> I've a few screen shots.. though since then I got a bigger screen now. 720p -> 1080p
L258[14:00:15] <Althego> tiny :)
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L260[14:01:23] <JVFoxy> well ... 15" screen..
L261[14:01:32] <JVFoxy> now a bit bigger..
L262[14:01:37] <Althego> laptops...
L263[14:01:40] <JVFoxy> no
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L265[14:02:09] <Althego> i had a 14" screen for my old pentium (without number)
L266[14:02:21] <JVFoxy> desktop... screen was also for camper tv. only had so much room. Then friend helped out. Its semi retired now for Xbox, but will be used again when I go camping
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L268[14:03:21] <JVFoxy> I built a swing arm for it... can use it in the bed over the cab area, or bring it out into the kitchen, watch it from the table
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L271[14:03:57] <JVFoxy> I keep saying I wanna do videos but eh.. never get around
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L276[14:29:44] <JVFoxy> mmmm... mars.... https://imgur.com/gallery/sW3EL5B
L277[14:29:44] <kmath> https://i.imgur.com/tneFrbC.gifv
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L298[15:33:53] <JVFoxy> I take it people caught news about the ISS hole recently?
L299[15:35:13] <darsie> Many did.
L300[15:35:19] <darsie> New news?
L301[15:35:22] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/236560222133551104/486635167759204353/DSC_9609.JPG
L302[15:36:32] <darsie> https://static.mk.ru/upload/entities/2018/09/02/articlesImages/image/51/bb/15/fd/744c0c599ee56d1333e42293ea621932.jpg
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L305[15:38:12] <JVFoxy> darsie before it was patched up?
L306[15:38:32] <darsie> idk. Someone posted it in #space@freenode .
L307[15:38:52] <JVFoxy> russian agency seems to think its an unstable ISS crew member... :\
L308[15:39:34] <darsie> I read that's one theory of one person.
L309[15:41:51] <JVFoxy> when I saw 'sabotage' and man made on the headlines, I was like... uh.. what? space debris is technically man'made in a sense. Then read more on it. :\
L310[15:43:05] <darsie> How high was the satellite the Chinese blew up?
L311[15:44:27] <darsie> 865 kilometres
L312[15:44:32] <JVFoxy> no idea. .but as far as I'm aware, there is a world wide ban on militarizing space
L313[15:45:05] <JVFoxy> or weapons in space... doesn't mean can't use ballistics, just not space based platforms.
L314[15:45:07] <SnoopJeDi> Last I'd heard, the ISS thing was a circular hole left probably left during manufacturing that was probably temporarily plugged
L315[15:45:14] <darsie> Not everyone signed the outer space treaty, and it's ending.
L316[15:45:27] <darsie> I think.
L317[15:45:32] <JVFoxy> probably time for renewal then
L318[15:45:41] <Fluburtur> I want http://mhm-marc-hauss.eu/mhm/spip.php?article511
L319[15:45:49] <JVFoxy> times do change, though I hope still continue to use space for peaceful means.
L320[15:46:38] <JVFoxy> Fluburtur I would love to test out an engine design... just.. lack shop
L321[15:48:23] <darsie> Maybe I'm confusing it with the antarctic treaty.
L322[15:48:41] * JVFoxy picks up on Kurt's No Man's Sky video.. oh right his floating ship. Took out minerals from under his landed craft, now its just floating in air
L323[15:49:19] <JVFoxy> I'm half tempted to get the game now.. after watching. But.. I don't know.. seen quite a few... 'issues' with it still. :\
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L326[16:04:43] <Eddi|zuHause> a few more trumps in this world, and space will go down the drain
L327[16:05:14] <Eddi|zuHause> tbh, the surface probably, too :p
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L331[16:16:19] <JVFoxy> localized blackhole...
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L342[16:39:47] * darsie wants a small black hole.
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L344[16:40:09] <darsie> 32 proton radii.
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L346[16:50:06] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/429717171002933269/486654189720567809/DSC_9610.JPG
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L355[17:06:19] * UmbralRaptor gives darsie a 42 Jupiter mass black hole.
L356[17:06:46] * UmbralRaptor should perhaps have checked to see if darsie meant proton, or Протон.
L357[17:06:54] <darsie> I'm afraid that's a bit more than I asked for, but thanks nevertheless.
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L360[17:15:59] <SnoopJeDi> UmbralRaptor, HAH
L361[17:17:16] <SnoopJeDi> is the Протон radius a blast radius or a cruising distance?
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L363[17:18:36] <UmbralRaptor> I, uh, looked up the first stage diameter on wikipedia (7.4 m) and did some math.
L364[17:27:17] <SnoopJeDi> fair enough
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L368[17:55:47] <KrazyKrl> I mean... there was already a documentary about these things... I think it was called Gene Roddenberry's Andromeda.
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L370[18:11:35] <Eddi|zuHause> that was a nice series
L371[18:11:46] <Eddi|zuHause> the last season went a bit mental, though :p
L372[18:14:03] <KrazyKrl> too many studio execs that are on the corporate side were making creative decisions.
L373[18:14:47] <KrazyKrl> I dunno about you, but an MBA doesn't nessisarily certify you to be a co-writer in a TV show.
L374[18:15:04] <Eddi|zuHause> i don't think i fully understood the plot of the last season, anyway
L375[18:15:46] <KrazyKrl> dey went 2 hide, spacegod found dem, and freed dem.
L376[18:16:30] <KrazyKrl> I still dunno if there was time hinkyness or not in there. i.e. was it the past or not.
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L378[18:25:50] <Eddi|zuHause> tbh it's been a while since i watched it
L379[18:26:34] <KrazyKrl> it has not aged that well.
L380[18:29:13] <Eddi|zuHause> i'm not even sure they actually broadcast the last season on TV here. i just watched it out of some kind of inner obligation to finish the series
L381[18:30:07] <KrazyKrl> Well, it was pretty heavy into enemies of the week, and deus ex machina.
L382[18:30:09] <Eddi|zuHause> on a related note, i've not managed to finish watching Farscape for some reason
L383[18:30:28] <KrazyKrl> i couldn't even finish the first few episodes of farscape.
L384[18:30:35] <KrazyKrl> but i watched all of stargate universe.
L385[18:31:13] <Eddi|zuHause> which one was that?
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L566[23:46:52] <PirateAE> What roughly would be a 2:1 solar orbit be from kerbin? Contemplating putting out a solar probe, do two laps and have a minimal effort recapture/recover at kerbin.
L567[23:48:18] <Althego> use kepler"'s laws. the ratio of the square of period times is the same as ratio of cubes of semimajor axes
L568[23:48:50] <PirateAE> i dont know the math at all :/
L569[23:49:46] <Althego> but you can get the orbital period and orbital radius from the wiki, from then on it is literally just reorderinig the t1^2/t2^2 = s1^2/a2^2
L570[23:49:58] <Althego> heh a insteqad of s, typo
L571[23:51:17] <Althego> and 3 on the as instead of 2 >(
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L574[23:52:39] <PirateAE> what am i putting in t and a ?
L575[23:54:00] <Althego> t1^2/t2^2 = a1^3/a2^3 put t1 as double of t2, t2 get it from the wiki from the data of kerbin. a1 is then your unknown and a2 is also from the kerbin data
L576[23:55:36] <PirateAE> and what data am i looking for in teh wiki?
L577[23:56:09] <PirateAE> sid real semajor axis ? what?
L578[23:56:55] *** Dalewyn_Lancaster is now known as King_Arthur
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