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L1[00:00:01] <mischief> mining rig at
work
L3[00:00:20] <mischief> unfortunately i
didn't pack enough radiators. the convert o tron gets too
hot..
L4[00:02:32] <mischief> guess i'll fix
that.
L5[00:20:15] <Althego> how experienced is
your engineer?
L6[00:25:08] <KrazyKrl> Well, out of 10
attempts... he only burned water 3 times.
L7[00:25:26] <Epsilon> So level 6.
L8[00:25:37] <Epsilon> ;p
L9[00:28:32] <KrazyKrl> Seeing as how he was
watching the joy of painting in his off time... analysts are still
researching how the glass of water adjecent to him spontaneously
caught flame and became charred.
L10[00:28:52] <KrazyKrl> not the glass, the
water itself, on a molecular level.
L11[00:28:55] <KrazyKrl> charred
water.
L12[00:30:44] <JVFoxy> burning water?
easy... h2 o2.. combine
L13[00:31:27] <Althego> let out powers
combine
L14[00:31:58] <JVFoxy> there is a HHO
torch.. pretty hot stuff
L15[00:32:45] <KrazyKrl> No, it's obvious
that when this particular kerbal has a thought, the carbon atoms in
his neurons attempt to escape the "sinking ship" and
attach themselves to the nearest objects. In this case, the water
itself. These radical atoms carry enough energy to quickly burn and
char whatever they contact.
L16[00:33:16] <JVFoxy> mischief the panels
you are using only cool parts connected and the next one after
that.. you'll want the folding radiators if you want cooling to
effected on the craft as a whole
L17[00:33:29] <Epsilon> That's amazing
considering you'd figure it would just explode and fizz.
L18[00:33:31] <mischief> yea, i switched it
out.
L19[00:33:39] <mischief> Althego: he's only
lv 2
L20[00:33:48] <Althego> but even that helps
a lot
L21[00:33:56] <JVFoxy> carbon atoms.. get
enough of them on things, ya, youll end up with things that look
charred
L22[00:34:00] <mischief> career mode you
see
L23[00:34:03] <mischief> i didn't go many
places yet
L24[00:34:17] <Althego> unfortunately for
level 3 you have to go outside of kerbin soi (relatively easy from
minmus but takes a lot of time)
L25[00:35:26] <KrazyKrl> to hit level 3,
don't you just need to grab like 1 flight report from outside of
kerbin's SoI?
L26[00:35:40] <KrazyKrl> it's something
exact like that.
L27[00:35:48] <Althego> you dont need to do
anything just go out and back
L28[00:35:55] <mischief> ah.
L29[00:35:57] <Althego> but it takes a lot
of time, several days
L30[00:36:10] <Althego> but as long as you
are there you might as well take some science too
L31[00:36:11] <mischief> it usually takes
me like 20 days to go to minmus and back
L32[00:36:18] <Althego> then you are doing
it wrong
L33[00:36:33] <Epsilon> JVFoxy: I was
thinking more along the lines of CO2.
L34[00:36:36] <Althego> not even that long
on a hohman transfer
L35[00:36:45] <Althego> that is something
around 7
L36[00:36:56] <JVFoxy> epsilon co2.. after
you breath o2...
L37[00:37:10] <Althego> but you can make it
in around 2-3 with putting in more delta v, to the point where you
are on an escape trajectory.
L38[00:37:16] <JVFoxy> I don't know.. I'm
not too good a chemist
L39[00:37:38] <JVFoxy> Gotta go
faster!
L40[00:37:49] <JVFoxy> .... sorry..
/!sonic
L41[00:37:52] <Epsilon> Everything I know
about chemistry, I learned from Things I Won't Work With. ;p
L42[00:37:59] <Althego> hehe
L43[00:38:16] <Althego> dont ever go near
foof or chlorine trifluoride
L44[00:38:32] <Althego> in fact i would
want to rally avoid any kind of hydrazine too
L45[00:38:44] <Epsilon> ... man. Now I
actually want to make a mod that's got a rocket that runs on
FOOF.
L46[00:38:46] <TheKosmonaut> But foof
sounds so tasty
L47[00:38:49] <Epsilon> Just because that's
kerbal as hell.
L48[00:38:54] <Althego> hehe
L49[00:39:03] <Althego> which had the green
flame?
L50[00:39:06] <Althego> some borane
whateverú
L51[00:39:07] <JVFoxy> ... foof?
L52[00:39:10] <Epsilon> Hexaborane?
L53[00:39:13] <Althego> that
L54[00:39:18] <Epsilon> JVFoxy: Dioxygen
Difluoride.
L55[00:39:25] <Althego> commonly called as
foof
L56[00:39:27] <Epsilon> Explodes if you
look at it funny.
L57[00:39:36] <JVFoxy> oh.. missing a L...
floof.. sorry
L58[00:39:42] <Epsilon> I think JVFoxy
needs an education.
L59[00:39:55] <Althego> not missing, it is
foof
L61[00:40:17] <Althego> there is a better
material for exploding. azidoazide azide
L62[00:40:18] <Epsilon> Anything on that
blog under "Things I Won't Work With" is amazing.
L63[00:40:29] <KrazyKrl> Fluroantimonic
Acid, do it.
L64[00:40:29] <Althego> you dont even need
to look at it and it still explodes
L65[00:40:37] <Epsilon> Althego: Isn't that
the CL-20 stuff, that's "surprisingly stable"?
L66[00:40:48] <JVFoxy> I'm just teasing.. I
know dioxy difluoride...
L67[00:41:05] <JVFoxy> o2f2...
L68[00:41:07] <Epsilon> No, that's the
hexaisohexaazaisowurtizane or whatever the crap it's called. Never
mind.
L69[00:41:22] <JVFoxy> heavy air?
L70[00:41:58] <Epsilon> ... what would that
be, radioactive O2?
L71[00:42:10] *
mischief curses to himself
L72[00:42:14] <mischief> 100m/s short
L73[00:42:18] *
mischief reverts flight
L74[00:43:03] <Althego> eh anot her scott
video
L75[00:43:22] <Althego> but at least i can
watch it now
L76[00:45:06] <JVFoxy> heavy air, aka
sulfur hexafluoride
L77[00:45:53] <JVFoxy> helium makes you
squeak, sulfur hexafluoride makes you sound like some badass
demon
L78[00:47:38] <Epsilon> Huh.
L79[00:47:47] <Althego> a small
epsilon
L80[00:47:57] <Althego> it is somehow
always a small epsilon radius
L81[00:48:09] <Epsilon> Wonder how
dangerous it is, other than the suffocation risk. I assume the
fluorine is bound up pretty nicely.
L82[00:48:17] *
Epsilon looks it up and ends up on another watchlist probably.
:V
L83[00:48:32] <Althego> it is not really
dangerous
L85[00:48:57] <Althego> aside of the thing
that it is heavier than air and i cant imagine how the remaining
amount of it gets out of your lungs
L86[00:49:06] <JVFoxy> dang it.. sorry,
google just being a pain
L88[00:49:07] <kmath> YouTube - Fun With
Gas | MythBusters
L89[00:49:28] <Althego> dont waste helium,
guys. it is a precious resource for science and medical
instruments
L90[00:49:36] <JVFoxy> meh.. just hang
yourself
L91[00:49:41] <JVFoxy> heavy air goes
down
L92[00:49:52] <Epsilon> "Like xenon,
sulfur hexafluoride is a non-toxic gas, yet by displacing oxygen in
the lungs, it also carries the risk of asphyxia if too much is
inhaled."
L93[00:50:01] <JVFoxy> sorry.. mean to say,
hangyourself by the ankles... >_<
L94[00:50:07] <Althego> haha
L95[00:51:13] <JVFoxy> you will eventually
expel it all out... diffusion.. displacement.. otherwise, there'd
always be stale air in your lugs
L96[00:52:03] <Epsilon> True, but it
doesn't take too long to just pass out from huffing stuff that's
not-air.
L97[00:52:21] <JVFoxy> you only really need
a small amount
L98[00:52:38] <JVFoxy> even with heilium,
you'd not want to keep that in your lungs for too long either
L99[00:52:41] <Epsilon> I get the feeling
we're arguing two different things. >_>
L100[00:53:11] <Althego> heilium, must be
an element with people holding one arm up :)
L101[00:53:29] <TheKosmonaut> I got pinged
by that
L102[00:53:31] <Epsilon> I'm just saying
that it'd make you pass out if you breathed too much of it
(something which applies to helium too)
L103[00:53:43] <TheKosmonaut> Helium
L104[00:53:43] <Althego> also helium is
the only working backup program for android
L105[00:53:50] <mischief> damnit
L106[00:53:56] <mischief> the ore scanner
keeps turning off :(
L107[00:53:58] <mischief> now idk where to
land
L108[00:53:59] <Althego> or rather
something that sometimes works
L109[00:54:02] <Epsilon> Not arguing the
wisdom of doing it for a funny voice one way or another. :B
L110[00:54:06] <TheKosmonaut> Heilium is
what their moonbase harvests
L111[00:54:50] <Epsilon> That, and the
original point I had was "huh, even if it's got a lot of
fluorine, looks like it won't kill you through direct
chemistry"
L112[00:54:54] <mischief> is there no way
to switch the ore scan overlay on without switching ships?
L113[00:55:07] <mischief> i don't want to
switch ship because i might need to revert this flight again
>_>
L114[00:55:32] <Althego> you can use it in
the map view
L115[00:55:34] <Epsilon> mischief: You
can't right-click the scanner and twiddle it from that menu?
L116[00:55:37] <Althego> once you have
done it once
L117[00:55:57] <mischief> i do not have a
scanner on this current ship
L118[00:55:59] <Althego> because it
becomes part of the knowledge
L119[00:56:02] <mischief> it's on a
different satellite
L120[00:56:04] <mischief> Althego:
how?
L121[00:56:09] <Althego> or maybe only
from the space center
L122[00:56:22] <Althego> ah yes i think
that icon only appears in the space center
L123[00:56:26] <mischief> :(
L124[00:56:32] <Althego> or rather wats
its name, tracking station
L125[00:56:43] <Althego> but there is the
smaller scanner
L126[00:56:51] <Althego> the big scanner
only gives info by biome
L127[00:57:01] <Althego> tha smallers have
increasing resolution
L128[00:57:12] <JVFoxy> don't you need to
keep ore scanner in orbit.. or the data turns off?
L129[00:57:14] <Althego> while the
smallest gives reading on the ground
L130[00:57:25] <JVFoxy> better yet..
doesn't the scanner have to keep running in order ot use the data
shown?
L131[00:57:36] <Althego> no, it transmits
the data
L132[00:57:37] <mischief> yes but you see,
somehow it got turned off
L133[00:57:40] <Althego> you even get
science for it
L134[00:57:48] <mischief> so the ore
places on the mun don't show up now, and i've no clue where to
land
L135[00:57:52] <JVFoxy> or am I thinking
of the narrow band one?
L136[00:58:05] <Althego> i am talking
about the big thing that opens
L137[00:58:37] <JVFoxy> I know the
clamshell one you have to polar orbit.. the other just has to be
close enough
L138[00:59:50] <mischief> in theory there
is at least some ore everywhere right
L139[00:59:56] <Althego> no
L140[01:00:02] <mischief> so i could just
land anywhere, mine some and then go somewhere else
L141[01:00:04] <mischief> oh.
L142[01:00:08] <mischief> well
dangit
L143[01:00:35] <Althego> at least i once
landed on laythe on a relatively flat island, thinking this was
easy, than it turned tout there was no ore there at all
L144[01:00:46] <Althego> *then
L145[01:00:49] <mischief> well
L146[01:01:01] <mischief> worst case i
lose $180,000 kerb bucks
L147[01:01:01] <Althego> but that may have
been changed
L148[01:01:07] <Althego> sicne now you can
mine underthe sea
L149[01:01:18] <Althego> as i said
L150[01:01:27] <Althego> switch back to
the tracking station and turn on the view
L151[01:01:52] <mischief> if i go to the
tracking station then i can't revert flight any more
L152[01:01:59] <JVFoxy> think the little
drill rigs need a certain percentage of ore below it before it
takes anything
L153[01:02:02] <mischief> idk if i can
land this for sure.
L154[01:02:22] <mischief> last couple
flights with this ship i ran out of fuel before i slowed down
L155[01:02:27] <Althego> ok if it doesnt
work you can still revert
L156[01:02:46] <mischief> i am pretty sure
revert gets disabled if i switch away from the ship....
L157[01:02:49] <mischief> that's the
issue
L158[01:02:59] <Althego> yes
L159[01:03:14] <Althego> but the mun is
pretty much ok anywhere
L160[01:03:24] <Althego> you would get
different speed
L161[01:03:33] <Althego> or time
efficiency
L162[01:04:24] <mischief> eh. i guess i'll
just land some random place.
L163[01:04:31] <mischief> if nothing's
there i'll revert and fix the scanner
L164[01:04:37] <Althego> choose easier
site
L165[01:05:35] <JVFoxy> if you switch to a
ship that flew right next to you.. you still be ok
L166[01:05:47] <JVFoxy> if you switched
while having to use map mode because it was too far.. no you can't
revert
L167[01:06:11] <Althego> yes scene change
is what elminates rever
L168[01:06:34] <Althego> but if you can
land that thing why not just save, and retry
L169[01:07:26] <JVFoxy> could just save
before launch...
L170[01:07:35] <JVFoxy> then different
save each part just in case till landing
L171[01:08:08] <Althego> that doesnt work
for me because before anything gets to the mun, there are already 4
other missions on the way
L172[01:08:38] <mischief> it's ok
L173[01:08:42] <mischief> my ship crashed
anyway
L174[01:08:46] <mischief> revert flight
xD
L175[01:08:56] <mischief> this thing is so
unwieldy
L176[01:09:00] <Althego> lol. liam neeson
once was a teacher, but one student pulled a knife on him and he
instantly punched the kid
L177[01:09:17] <mischief> it's hard to
land and runs out of fuel half the time before i get to the
ground
L178[01:09:19] <mischief> :(
L179[01:09:22] <Althego> note, you want
your landers as flat as possible
L180[01:10:00] <Althego> and also not even
if you are good, a few seconds of cautiousness in landing can costs
you hundreds of m/s in delta v even on the mun
L181[01:10:10] <Althego> so always pack
more fuel for landing
L183[01:10:59] <Althego> that is why i
said it
L184[01:11:05] <mischief> maybe i can move
the bottom around so it's not as tall..
L185[01:11:12] <Althego> what if you
rotated it by 90 degrees?
L186[01:11:21] <Althego> it is tall
anyway
L187[01:11:25] <mischief> what
L188[01:11:33] <Althego> it is a
lighthouse
L189[01:11:35] <Althego> a tower
L190[01:11:37] <mischief> :-P
L191[01:11:58] <Althego> would be ok for
minmu
L192[01:11:59] <Althego> s
L193[01:12:06] <Althego> not for anywhere
else
L194[01:12:22] <mischief> so i should try
flying it to minmus?
L195[01:12:25] <mischief> might work
better
L196[01:12:34] <Althego> and land oin the
flats
L197[01:12:41] <mischief> i'll try
L198[01:16:14] <Althego> do or do not,
there is no try
L199[01:16:26] <mischief> ok yoda
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L201[01:21:59] <mischief> mun's in my way
lol
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L203[01:23:22] <Althego> heh intel fails
again in 10 nm. i dont even know how they manage to fail that many
times
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L205[01:31:26] <mischief> not actually
sure i can make it to minmus xD
L206[01:31:30] <mischief> i think my ship
needs more dv
L207[01:43:44] <mischief> >_>
L208[01:43:49] <mischief> if it's not one
thing it's another
L209[01:43:59] <mischief> i made it to
minmus but i forgot an engineer, and sent my best pilot.
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L211[01:46:27] <Epsilon> A suggestion for
that craft is to make the lowest fuel tank a 3x around a core.
Gives it a wider base for landing.
L212[01:46:42] <Epsilon> (dealing with
other limits is left as an exercise to you)
L213[01:50:01] <mischief> apparently i
also need more batteries.
L214[01:50:08] <Epsilon> Oh. And if you
can put a deployable fairing around that upper stage somehow,
you'll probably save a hell of a lot of drag loss.
L215[01:54:25] <Epsilon> Those liquid
boosters - you can stack a second tank on top of them. Not sure if
that'll give you better dV than the SRBs.
L216[01:54:36] <Epsilon> (or if you can do
that, increase the size of the SRBs, and get some extra dV that
way)
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L218[01:58:15] <mischief> now i've got to
save my best pilot from this dreadful mining rig
L219[01:58:35] <mischief> time to rescue
katbert kerman from the surface of minmus, and deposit some
unfortunate engineer there
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L221[02:18:00] <mischief> this is
crappy
L222[02:18:12] <mischief> my mining rig
runs out of electricity when the sun goes down
L223[02:18:21] <mischief> i have to
restart it when the sun rises
L224[02:18:26] <mischief> i can't leave it
unattended :(
L225[02:20:54] <mischief> hrpmh
L226[02:21:00] <mischief> i guess i'll
just go to the north pole.
L228[02:35:31] <mischief> this doesn't
seem safe
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L230[02:55:56] <Althego> not on highest
timewarp :)
L231[02:56:15] <Althego> also you can try
the big fuel cell
L232[02:58:43] <mischief> i keep trying to
find the true pole of minmus
L233[02:58:49] <mischief> so i don't lose
electricity
L234[02:58:52] <mischief> it's hard to
find..
L235[02:59:02] <Althego> what, the
biome?
L236[02:59:04] <Althego> it is quite
huge
L237[02:59:05] <mischief> no
L238[02:59:13] <mischief> the place i can
land and never have the sun go away
L239[03:05:36] <mischief> maybe there is
not such a place
L240[03:08:20] <Althego> note that the mun
has even longer nights
L241[03:08:28] <Althego> (half a kerbal
month)
L242[03:22:02] <mischief> hm
L243[03:22:10] <mischief> so my mining rig
is not very optimal.
L244[03:22:18] <mischief> might design a
newer, bigger one..
L245[03:24:10] <Althego> or just mine
enough fuel to relaocate it to the sunny side, all the time
L246[03:33:17] <mischief> haha
L247[03:33:25] <mischief> i was doing that
for a bit
L248[03:33:31] <mischief> now i *almost*
found the perfect spot
L249[03:33:38] <mischief> just have to
move another few km
L250[03:38:39] <mischief> idk
L251[03:38:52] <Althego> put it on wheels
:)
L252[03:38:54] <mischief> $183,000 mining
rig seems useless if it has to be on the pole
L253[03:39:03] <Althego> it doesnt need to
be
L254[03:39:19] <Althego> as i said somehow
in highest time acceleration the batteries stop draining at the
night
L255[03:39:26] <mischief> i can't run it
unattended though
L256[03:39:39] <Althego> just as with
anything in ksp
L257[03:39:48] <mischief> wait wat
L258[03:39:49] <Althego> except maybe the
asteroid hunter telescope thing
L259[03:40:09] <Althego> you can leave
things anywhere, but they will not do much ontheir own
L260[03:40:44] <mischief> a drill wont run
while i pilot another ship?
L261[03:40:52] <mischief> i have to sit
here and wait?
L262[03:40:53] <Althego> i never tried
that
L263[03:41:04] <Althego> you can test
it
L264[03:41:14] <Althego> by switchint to
the space center and dorwarding time
L265[03:41:26] <mischief> i was thinking
of reverting still xD
L266[03:41:29] <Althego> but that may be
an exception and still work without focus
L267[03:41:37] <Althego> make a save
L268[03:41:44] <mischief> i guess $180,000
is not that much of a loss
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L273[05:21:51] <mischief> hm
L274[05:21:56] <mischief> how does
SENTINEL work?
L275[05:22:01] <mischief> does it need to
be always running?
L276[05:22:43] <Althego> it is always
running. if it is in a heliocentric orbit
L277[05:23:32] <Althego> you can have some
science transmitted from it, and then leave it there nad discovers
asteroids
L278[05:25:57] <mischief> i have it on a
crewed ship
L279[05:26:13] <Althego> you can get the
single science from itthen
L280[05:26:19] <Althego> if you want to
get the kerbals back
L281[05:26:27] <mischief> i went to solar
orbit for crew xp and brought the SENTINEL with me
L282[05:26:33] <mischief> but didn't have
the intention of leaving it there
L283[05:26:47] <mischief> gotta bring
katbert, bill and buzz back home
L284[05:27:00] <Althego> you havea kebal
named buzz?
L285[05:27:46] <mischief> yep.
L286[05:27:54] <Althego> nice
L287[05:28:17] <mischief> i guess it's a
reference to buzz aldrin
L288[05:30:10] <Althego> have you seen the
things on the mun already?
L289[05:36:06] <mischief> just an
arch
L290[05:36:15] <mischief> i haven't spent
a lot of time on the surface
L291[05:36:23] <mischief> i haven't
figured out how to make a buggy yet really
L292[05:36:24] <Althego> the one on the
equator?
L293[05:36:32] <Althego> at the edge of a
crater?
L294[05:36:36] <mischief> yeah, that one
was fairly obviousl
L295[05:36:39] <mischief> obvious
L296[05:37:07] <Althego> there is an other
interesting spot you can reach on the equator around a southern
edge of a crater
L297[05:37:57] <mischief> i have to figure
out how to get back to kerbin first ;_;
L298[05:38:22] <mischief> for some reason
my map display is kind of messed up
L299[05:38:33] <Althego> use fuel, it's
super effective
L300[05:39:45] <mischief> ah
L301[05:39:53] <mischief> figured out the
right way to go :)
L302[05:42:36] <mischief> only took me 32
days of fartin around to get to solar orbit and back..
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L304[05:43:46] <Althego> yes it takes
long
L305[05:43:52] <Althego> although you can
do it faster
L306[05:44:07] <mischief> with more delta
v as always ;-)
L307[05:46:50] <mischief> uh oh
L308[05:46:54] <mischief> i forgot a
parachute :(
L309[05:46:58] <Althego> hehehe
L310[05:47:06] <Althego> you can still use
the engine
L311[05:47:12] <mischief> i have little
baby engines
L312[05:47:22] <mischief> 4 twitch
L313[05:47:27] <mischief> i have a whole
tank of gas though
L314[05:47:29] <Althego> those work in
atmo
L315[05:47:44] <mischief> well
L316[05:47:48] <mischief> now 2/3
tank
L317[05:48:04] <mischief> i took the
parachute off the top for the SENTINEL
L318[05:48:08] <mischief> forgot to put a
new one on the side
L319[05:48:22] <mischief> hm
L320[05:48:28] <Althego> you can leave
them in orbit then and het a rescue mission
L321[05:48:29] <mischief> possibly worst
case my fuel tank explodes
L322[05:48:32] <mischief> can that kill
me?
L323[05:48:35] <Althego> no
L324[05:48:38] <mischief> i'm already
coming in hot
L325[05:48:39] <Althego> in fact it
protects you
L326[05:48:45] <mischief> okay
L327[05:48:50] <Althego> because it slows
down the rest
L328[05:49:07] <Althego> and if you dont
hit water you can actually survive fast landings that way
L329[05:49:16] <Althego> also can
parachute the kerbals
L331[05:49:24] <Althego> oh wait need 3
stars for that
L332[05:49:47] <Althego> there are 3
parachutes
L333[05:49:47] <mischief> looks like water
landing
L334[05:49:55] <mischief> they are drouge
chutes :/
L335[05:49:59] <mischief> will i
live?
L336[05:50:02] <Althego> those slow you
down
L337[05:50:07] <Althego> add the engines
and it may be survivable
L338[05:50:39] <Althego> also the capsule
is quite touch
L339[05:50:43] <Althego> tough
L340[05:50:58] <Althego> would have been
better without the water
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L342[05:51:37] <mischief> okay nice
L343[05:51:44] <mischief> only 45m/s with
drouge chutes out
L344[05:51:49] <mischief> engines can get
the rest i think
L345[05:51:56] <Althego> i think 30 is
enough
L346[05:52:27] <Althego> dont need
to
L347[05:52:32] <Althego> the capsule has
45 m/s tolerance
L349[05:53:10] <mischief> lost the gas
tank :)
L350[05:53:16] <Althego> not
important
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L352[05:53:46] <mischief> 375
science
L353[05:53:49] <mischief> not too bad i
guess
L354[05:53:57] <Althego> this is how you
land on duna too. a parachute to bleed off most of the speed, and
then use engines to stop
L355[05:54:04] <mischief> pilot and
engineer got 3*
L356[05:54:08] <Althego> yes
L357[05:54:12] <Althego> now they can use
parachutes
L358[05:54:12] <mischief> buzz only 2*
:(
L359[05:54:21] <Althego> take him to
minmus or something
L360[05:54:52] <mischief> ah
L361[05:54:57] <mischief> he needs to
plant flag on the mun
L362[05:55:01] <mischief> bill has
that
L363[05:55:12] <Althego> you know you need
to plant flag with one kerbal
L364[05:55:21] <Althego> now all nearby
kerbals inherit that achievement
L365[05:55:27] <mischief> oh
L366[05:55:31] <Althego> it wasnt that way
originally
L367[05:55:35] <mischief> maybe buzz just
never got to the mun
L368[05:55:35] <Althego> it was kind of
annyoing
L369[05:55:44] <mischief> hes been to
minmus though haha
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L371[06:45:37] <mischief> something seems
wrong with my map screen
L372[06:45:47] <mischief> manuevers always
show these long lines to the target
L374[06:45:54] <mischief> like the purple
one
L375[06:45:58] <mischief> didn't used to
do that
L376[06:47:03] <Althego> that looks
strange
L377[06:47:26] <mischief> yes.
L378[06:49:36] <Althego> is that a new
1.4.5 bug?
L379[06:50:35] <mischief> im 1.4.4
L380[06:50:51] <Althego> then maybe 1.4.5
fixed it :)
L382[06:55:16] <Althego> hehehe
L383[06:55:51] *
mischief squints
L384[06:55:53] <mischief> wat
L385[06:56:47] <Mat2ch> JVFoxy: principiae
mod? ;)
L386[06:57:35] <JVFoxy> no idea... just
screen shot I found.
L387[06:58:00] <JVFoxy> I remember there
been some pretty weird trajectory bugs in past versions
L388[06:58:52] <JVFoxy> where something in
the game goes 'fff this.. I don't care any more' and spits out
garbage ;P
L390[07:04:05] <JVFoxy> I don't know if
this makes kerbals beyond badass or.. just creepy
L391[07:05:48] <Mat2ch> Looks like Danny
was there...
L392[07:06:03] <Althego> hehe
L393[07:06:15] <Althego> lately kerbals
are often spaghettifying
L394[07:07:07] <Althego> it is a
spontaneous reality collapse. things destroy themselves because
physics change
L395[07:07:29] <dnsmcbr> Althego: Have you
considered probing the Kerbosystem for black holes?
L396[07:09:16] <Althego> no
L397[07:10:50] <JVFoxy> black holes... ?
then forget about the krakken, got bigger problems
L398[07:22:27] <mischief> hm.. not much
science left on minmus methinks.
L399[07:22:35] <mischief> unless i go
hunting for the hard to get to biomes.
L401[07:36:08] <kmath> <PGravlis>
Till er grillfantaster som gnäller över förbudet. Från flintastek
till skogsbrand är det ca 20 sekunder. ⏎ ⏎ #svpol…
https://t.co/SJXXSFU03v
L402[07:40:02] <JVFoxy> mean
while.....
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L409[09:16:38] <lordcirth> So, I just got
Making History - is there no 1.825m fairing?
L410[09:16:52] <umaxtu> I thought there
was
L411[09:17:12] <lordcirth> I'm using CTT,
maybe it went somewhere weird?
L412[09:17:44] <lordcirth> 1.25m is in
Stability(8) and 2.5m is in Aerodynamics(90) but nothing in
between
L413[09:17:53] <Althego> there should be
everythin in the new intermediate size
L414[09:18:04] <Althego> anda new bigger
one too
L415[09:18:18] <lordcirth> Ah, it's in
Advanced Construction(90)
L416[09:18:24] <lordcirth> Parallel to the
2.5m.
L417[09:18:45] <Althego> google translate
sounds reasonable: There are barbecue fans who rub over the ban.
From flint sticks to forest fire it is about 20 seconds.
L419[09:24:35] <umaxtu> uh, they didn't
use sonar
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L422[09:34:39] <lordcirth> Because that's
definitely the biggest factual problem here :P
L423[09:35:04] <lordcirth> I'm so
impatient for Kopernicus / Sigma Dimensions to come out for
1.4.5
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L425[09:40:31] <lordcirth> Also CKAN
thinks that everything is 0 size and is 14000% percent done and
climbing, lol. But whatever, it works
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L433[11:08:08] <Epsilon> [28-Jul 07:35:12]
<lordcirth> I'm so impatient for Kopernicus / Sigma
Dimensions to come out for 1.4.5 <-- Same. I'd take the advice
from yesterday and just run 1.4.3, but I'm worried about
compatibility with the mods already compiled against 1.4.4.
L435[11:09:16] <kmath> YouTube - NASA’s
Cold Atom Lab: The Coolest Experiment in the Universe
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L441[12:31:12] <APlayer> Hah! So I am
dropping those probes with kOS CPUs attached. I did not specify
what program they should run, and was wondering for ten or so
minutes why nothing was happening
L442[12:31:49] <APlayer> The bug ended up
being not because of the code, but because of the lack of any
code
L443[12:35:26] <JVFoxy> ... oops
L444[12:35:33] <JVFoxy> what was the code
suppose to do?
L445[12:37:30] <APlayer> Start the engine
and initialize guidance
L446[12:50:09] *** UmbralRaptor sets mode:
-r
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L453[13:30:23] <JVFoxy> hmm.. ok?
L454[13:32:57] *
Epsilon snrks.
L455[13:33:06] <Epsilon> Code works better
when it's installed, yes.
L456[13:34:39] <JVFoxy> I couldn't even
begin to figure out what you could do with kOS..
L457[13:34:47] <Althego> everything
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L459[13:38:59] <Althego> hehe the insight
mission principal investigator is bruce banerdt, really sounds like
bruce banner
L460[13:39:07] <Epsilon> Okay, well...
1.4.3 isn't exploding with 1.4.4 mods installed...
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L465[14:02:02] <Draconiator> SOOOOOOOOO
glad PC's have more or less stopped getting faster for the most
part...used to have to replace mine every 5 years.
L466[14:02:16] <Althego> hehe
L467[14:06:47] <JVFoxy> eh... I know
people used to replace things on their PC every few months
L468[14:07:01] <JVFoxy> just have to have
the latest... ect
L469[14:09:27] <APlayer> Okay, another kOS
experiment. Rocket launcher, starting from the runway. The rocket
is ejected with a decoupler, and the onboard CPU takes over for
guidance. The program runs since boot, but waits until the rocket
is deteched from the launcher before igniting the engine (i.e. it
checks if there is a part tagged "craft" still on the
vessel. That is the command pod of the launcher). Unfortunately, I
forgot to
L470[14:09:27] <APlayer> name my pod
"craft", so the engine starts immediately. It burns a
hole through the back of the rocket launcher, and then proceeds
accelerating the whole truck at 5 G or so over the runway.
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L473[14:17:40] <JVFoxy> umm..
whoops?
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L475[14:18:01] <JVFoxy> new meaning,
'boosted'
L476[14:18:08] <MARS18> Hello
L477[14:18:11] <Mod9000> Hello,
MARS18
L478[14:18:48] <Althego> insight lands at
26th of november
L479[14:18:56] <Althego> still a lot of
time to wait
L480[14:19:01] <MARS18> What new
here
L481[14:19:27] <JVFoxy> gotta head out
now.
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L483[14:20:09] <MARS18> Althego wait when
did insight launched ???
L484[14:20:18] <Althego> in may
L485[14:20:29] <Althego> i think i even
watched it
L486[14:20:43] <MARS18> A crap i missed
the launch date
L488[14:21:07] <MARS18> Dang it
L489[14:21:18] <Althego> drat and double
drat :)
L490[14:22:48] <MARS18> Oh well i guess i
can wait until insight landing date which is when nov 27
L491[14:23:00] <MARS18> Whoops sorry nov
26
L492[14:23:07] <Althego> this tmro space
channel is good that they actually get real jpl people
L493[14:23:13] <Epsilon> So who else
starts their career mode games at -1000 reputation? >_>
L494[14:23:27] <Althego> what does that do
to you?
L495[14:23:48] <Epsilon> Mostly affects
contracts you get, from what I can see.
L496[14:24:01] <Epsilon> Feels more like
you're climbing out of a hole.
L497[14:24:12] <Epsilon> Lined with kerbal
debris, and most likely made by a failed rocket.
L498[14:24:12] <Epsilon> :V
L499[14:25:21] <APlayer> "A failed
rocket"
L500[14:25:34] <APlayer> A bunch of failed
rockets and killed crew, more like
L501[14:25:42] <MARS18> Althego whats the
lastest ksp update ?
L502[14:25:50] <Althego> 1.4.5 as in the
topic
L503[14:25:57] <APlayer> MARS18: See the
topic in the channel for that ;-)
L504[14:26:00] <Althego> was on
thursday
L505[14:26:13] <Althego> actually 1.4.5 is
really a minor bugfix
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L508[14:28:43] <MARS18> Hello again for
some reason i got disconnected
L509[14:28:51] <Althego> you closed the
tab?
L510[14:29:41] <MARS18> Anyway i could not
see the the topic saying the update of ksp because im using my
cellphone
L511[14:30:17] <Epsilon> It's always great
when the boss wants to hand me $70.
L512[14:30:19] <MARS18> No Althego my wifi
took a ****
L513[14:30:36] *
Epsilon got called at home to "catch up" for an hour or
two :V.
L514[14:30:48] <Althego> it wasnt a ping
timeout
L515[14:31:12] <MARS18> No not
really
L516[14:31:36] <Epsilon> What they're
saying is this:
L517[14:31:39] <Epsilon> "[28-Jul
12:26:37] * MARS18 has quit (Quit: webchat.esper.net)"
L518[14:31:51] <Epsilon> Which implies
that whatever happened, it wasn't strictly related to your wifi
taking a dump.
L519[14:32:06] <Epsilon> Doesn't matter
that much though. ;p
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L521[14:32:23] <MARS18> Well i really cant
see all of that info from my cell
L522[14:32:53] <Althego> using a bad
client
L523[14:33:03] <Epsilon> I suggest AndChat
if you've got Android.
L524[14:33:10] <Epsilon> Much more
full-featured phone IRC client.
L525[14:33:12] <Althego> yes andchat is
really good
L526[14:34:10] <MARS18> Hmmm i'll look
into that
L527[14:35:02] <Althego> but really, the
first irc client i used on a phone was running on a nokia 6230, and
even that showed the topic
L528[14:36:09] <MARS18> Well i got a LG
K20 PLUS smartphone
L529[14:36:36] <MARS18> I honestly i
g
L530[14:36:39] <Althego> at that time the
word smatphone did not exist yet
L531[14:36:47] <Epsilon> How -is- the K20?
That's the newest model, right?
L532[14:36:56] <Epsilon> I've been vaguely
considering an upgrade.
L533[14:37:21] <Althego> sudo apt-get
update && sudo apt-get upgrade
L534[14:37:52] <MARS18> Dont really get a
lot of info when i log into my discord channels or in this
channel
L535[14:39:27] <MARS18> Epsilon honestly i
had this phone 8 months
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L537[14:40:22] <MARS18> Brb
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L539[14:41:39] <Draconiator> I wonder how
many of you guys when you were kids would not believe in a million
years the stuff we have now. if I went back and told people, I'd
probably get commited or something...
L540[14:42:01] <Althego> hehe
L541[14:42:15] <Althego> actually not much
has changed
L542[14:42:29] <Althego> still running
internal combustion cars
L543[14:42:43] <Althego> ok we have
internet and mobile phones
L544[14:42:49] <mabus> when i was a kid
the internet was invented, i cant think of an obvious example of
something i couldnt have believed
L545[14:43:08] <APlayer> Electric cars can
too have internal combustion if you don't take proper care of the
batteries
L546[14:43:11] <Epsilon> Not sure how old
you are Althego, but the Internet was hella cool.
L547[14:43:21] <Epsilon> When I was a kid,
at least.
L548[14:43:24] <Draconiator> Spacecraft
that can land by themselves?
L549[14:43:38] <Althego> that existed in
the 6`s<
L550[14:43:39] <Epsilon> Back then, sure,
you had Internet - but it was something that rich people had. Poor
people had BBSes. :V
L551[14:43:41] <Althego> 60s?
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L554[14:43:56] <mabus> canada had
equivalent to aol cds
L555[14:44:06] <mabus> a couple years
later
L556[14:44:08] <mabus> like 98
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L558[14:44:16] <mabus> free ad supported
internet
L559[14:44:20] <Althego> you hadto be rich
to have a phone line, and pay for cost of the bbs
L560[14:44:30] <mabus> phone line was
pretty standard to have
L561[14:44:38] <mabus> you didnt have a
second line unless you were rich
L562[14:44:43] <Epsilon> ^^
L563[14:44:44] <MARS18> What did i
missed
L564[14:44:50] <Epsilon> Old people
talking. :V
L565[14:44:55] <Draconiator> heheh
L566[14:45:01] <MARS18> Lol
L567[14:45:01] <Epsilon> BBSes were
usually single-line affairs, at least around where I was.
L568[14:45:15] <Althego> ah yes there were
2 free internet providers here too,. funny thing i got better
connection with them than the one i was paying for, so i stopped
the paid service
L569[14:45:17] <Epsilon> Although you did
have Software Creations (I think) that had ~16~ lines.
L570[14:45:47] <mabus> i got to run an 8
line wardialer a few times for security tests
L571[14:45:50] <Epsilon> But yeah, I'm...
crap, I'm actually getting towards "late" 30's now. Who
knew?
L573[14:46:15] <Epsilon> It looks
hilarious.
L574[14:46:36] <Draconiator> My parents
have records and video recorders, and old 3mm video projectors, we
have old technology.
L575[14:46:47] <APlayer> Note random
debris 50 m in the air above the impact site
L576[14:46:57] <APlayer> Above and to the
left
L577[14:47:00] <Draconiator> 1.44MB floppy
disks, oh yeah back then that was all the space we ever
needed.
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L579[14:47:55] <Epsilon> Pfft. 1.44MB
floppies were expensive. 720kB floppies FTW!
L580[14:48:11] <Epsilon> Or if you were
REALLY hurting, 360kB 5.25" floppies.
L581[14:48:28] <Eddi|zuHause> you could
format the 1.44MB disks to 1.7MB
L582[14:48:41] <Epsilon> ... crap. I
forgot to put the rescale mod in.
L583[14:48:42] <Epsilon> grumble
L584[14:49:01] <MARS18> Oy enough about
the floppies it hurts my brain :p
L586[14:49:22] <kmath> YouTube - Very Old
Games CYAFT
L587[14:49:39] <Draconiator> Chuck Yeagers
Advanced Flight Trainer
L588[14:49:42] <Epsilon> heh heh heh
L589[14:49:49] <Epsilon> Hah! It's still
Chuck Yeager!
L590[14:49:56] <Epsilon> I had Chuck
Yeager's Air Combat, myself.
L591[14:50:06] <MARS18> ?
L592[14:50:17] <Epsilon> Came on a CD with
Ultima VII, Ultima Underworld, Savage Empire, and a couple of other
games.
L593[14:50:41] <Epsilon> (that was newer
than the one you pasted though)
L594[14:52:30] <Epsilon> ... huh.
L595[14:52:36] <MARS18> Im lost
L596[14:52:38] <Epsilon> What's the newest
equivalent to Kscale64?
L597[14:53:01] <Epsilon> MARS18:
Basically, I had a similarly named game around 1995. ;p
L598[14:53:43] <MARS18> Oh lol i was born
i 94 but we are in 2018
L599[14:55:50] <Epsilon> Ah-hah. It's
"Rescale!" - although it claims it doesn't work with 1.4?
Hrm...
L600[14:58:28] <MARS18> ?
L601[14:58:48] <MARS18> What are you
referring to
L602[14:58:49] <Epsilon> [28-Jul 12:52:46]
<Epsilon> What's the newest equivalent to Kscale64? <--
Answer to that question.
L603[15:00:02] <Epsilon> And apparently
(supposedly,) it does work. So it's just the mod author being
overly careful, similar to how Kopernicus (apparently) has a hard
version lock.
L604[15:00:05] <MARS18> Oh sorry i did not
see that messg before
L605[15:00:28] <Epsilon> Which I totally
get from a support perspective, but it's kind of a pain in the neck
for those of us who actually understand when we're running
incompatible configs. ;p
L606[15:01:59] <Epsilon> Alright, time to
try running KSP again.
L607[15:02:07] <Epsilon> See if it breaks
-this- time. :D
L608[15:02:39] <MARS18> I'll get the duct
tape
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L610[15:02:49] <Althego> untangling space
tape
L611[15:02:56] <Althego> adding k to every
word
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L614[15:03:05] <Epsilon> Effecting
Oberth
L615[15:03:10] <Epsilon> Packing
Toothbrushes
L616[15:03:18] <Epsilon> Calculating
Collision Course
L617[15:03:12] <KerbinExplorer> Did they
redo something on the solar panels?
L618[15:03:23] <Althego> in 1.4.5? no not
really
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L620[15:03:29] <Epsilon> Heh. That reminds
me of the time I accidentally hit the Mun on the way to Minmus.
>_>
L621[15:03:34] <KerbinExplorer> hmm
L622[15:03:45] <KerbinExplorer> Do visual
mods effect the Solar panels?
L624[15:04:05] <KerbinExplorer> because i
seem to always lose charge now after installing mods to enhance the
beauty of Kerbin
L625[15:04:14] <Althego> hehe
L626[15:04:24] <Althego> they shouldnt
change anything, unless cclouds matter now
L627[15:04:36] <Supercheese> Kopernicus
can change solar panel outputs
L628[15:04:45] <Supercheese> if the system
is edited so distances are changed etc.
L629[15:04:46] <KerbinExplorer> maybe
thats the one
L630[15:04:54] <KerbinExplorer> because it
says its not compatible and im still using it
L631[15:04:55] <Epsilon> KerbinExplorer:
Is it an update in another mod that's actually detecting clouds
occluding the sun?
L632[15:05:07] <Supercheese> yeah if
you're trying to use Kopernicus on 1.4.5, don't
L633[15:05:11] <Supercheese> it won't work
right IIRC
L634[15:05:14] <Epsilon> KerbinExplorer:
Funny, I was -just- saying that.
L635[15:05:29] <Epsilon> AFAIK, Kopernicus
has a hard version lock, and flat-out disables itself if the
version isn't right.
L636[15:06:17] <KerbinExplorer> Well
theres my question lol, was about to bash my head against my
keyboard because i couldn't figure it out.
L637[15:06:56] <Epsilon> I've spent the
last day or two getting mods to download, only to find that out for
1.4.4.
L638[15:07:11] <MARS18> Crap i lost all my
data from a mod that i was making for ksp
L639[15:07:15] <Epsilon> Fortunately, it
-seems- like mods compiled on 1.4.4 still work on 1.4.3.
L640[15:07:23] <KerbinExplorer> I wish
they would include some of these mods into KSP its self because
they are so great
L641[15:07:28] <MARS18> Damn ssd
L642[15:07:44] <Althego> at least a delta
v display
L643[15:07:48] <Althego> that should be a
minimum
L644[15:07:57] <KerbinExplorer> Alt meter
as well
L645[15:08:13] <Althego> radar altimeter
is there in the cockpit
L646[15:08:18] <Althego> annoying to use
though
L647[15:08:23] <KerbinExplorer> but who
flys in the cock pit
L648[15:08:25] <KerbinExplorer> lol
L649[15:08:38] <Epsilon> A dV indicator in
stock would probably be valuable in people really understanding
dV.
L650[15:08:52] <Althego> also i never
understood why the altitude is on the top of the screen and
everything else is in the bottom. that islike 40 cm for me, huge
difference
L651[15:09:09] <Althego> havent these
people seen a hud? everything is inentionally packed together
L652[15:09:36] <Epsilon> Althego:
Full-screen 4k?
L653[15:09:39] <Althego> or at least an
mfd
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L655[15:09:45] <Althego> no, jusd
2560x1600
L656[15:09:48] <KerbinExplorer> lol
L657[15:09:55] <Epsilon> ... huh. How big
a monitor?
L658[15:10:02] <Althego> 30"
L659[15:10:04] <KerbinExplorer> and here
im complaining that im locked onto Normal setting on the Aero
effects
L660[15:10:10] <KerbinExplorer> so i can't
see them from afar like i used to
L661[15:10:10] <Epsilon> I've got a
28" 4k monitor, and it's not -that- far apart. :B
L662[15:10:28] *
Epsilon actually plays at 2560x1600 as well, windowed.
L663[15:10:44] <KerbinExplorer> nice
L664[15:10:54] <KerbinExplorer> i have a
144hz monitor
L665[15:11:22] <Althego> anyway it was a
bad idea to separate the instruments, and also not giving instant
access to the radar altimerter
L666[15:12:14] <KerbinExplorer> how many
planets have you guys landed on?
L667[15:12:20] <KerbinExplorer> and
actually gotten back to kerbin from
L668[15:12:31] <Epsilon> mmmm
science
L669[15:12:33] <Althego> i never landed on
jeel, not even back when you could :)
L670[15:12:37] <Althego> jool
L671[15:12:52] <Epsilon> Pfft. I remember
the days when you had to fly the Mun into orbit YOURSELF.
L672[15:12:58] <Epsilon> Uphill both ways
>:(
L673[15:13:06] <Althego> lol
L674[15:13:08] <KerbinExplorer> i've
landed on Duna and could never reach orbit again
L675[15:13:08] *
Epsilon wonders if that thread still exists.
L676[15:13:19] <KerbinExplorer> lol the
mun wasn't in orbit?
L677[15:13:28] <Epsilon> NovaSilisko
actually made a model of the Mun with an attachment point,
yeah.
L678[15:13:48] <Althego> hehe
L679[15:13:49] <Epsilon> This was before
the Mun actually existed as a separate entity.
L680[15:14:10] <KerbinExplorer> oh
jesus
L681[15:14:25] <Althego> there was a time
when there were no other planets
L682[15:14:39] <MARS18> Well guys i gotta
go see y'all in 4days
L683[15:14:43] <Epsilon> Yup.
L684[15:14:45] <Epsilon> \o
L685[15:14:53] <Epsilon> Hrm.
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L687[15:15:08] <Epsilon> I've got a
screenshot of a pre-Mun orbit, but not of the mod-Mun itself.
L688[15:15:38] <KerbinExplorer> well, im
going to fix my KSP now that i know the problem. Thanks, maybe ill
come back here another day xD
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L692[15:21:22] <Zarthus> so has anyone
played NMS yet and is the next update worth it
L693[15:21:30] <Zarthus> it's 50% off
right now but it never really interested me that much
L694[15:21:42] <Althego> hehe
L696[15:21:58] <Zarthus> i think I'd enjoy
space engineers more than NMS because shipbuilding is more up my
alley than whatever they offer
L698[15:23:50] <Epsilon> Space Engineers
is fun when it actually works right.
L699[15:24:02] <Epsilon> It's like
Minecraft in space, but you get to fly what you create.
L701[15:24:53] <kmath> YouTube - SpaceX -
First Leg Retract - Booster Lift 07-27-2018
L702[15:30:43] <Eddi|zuHause> i decided
for me pretty early that NMS wouldn't be a game for me, because
procedurally generated stuff tends to feel very repetitive pretty
quickly
L703[15:31:24] <Epsilon> Yeah, if you have
enough knowledge to guess at how the procedural generation works,
it can be a grind.
L704[15:31:29] <Eddi|zuHause> and that was
before the whole scandal about "this game isn't what it was
advertised as"
L705[15:31:41] <Epsilon> "Oh, I
recognize that exact same rock formation from the last planet...
:I"
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L708[15:35:49] <Eddi|zuHause> procedural
generation can work great if it's used to fill some void between
the interesting stuff, but if it is the sole method of content
generation...
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L710[15:36:34] <Epsilon> It can still be
good - it just gets more noticeable the more complex the graphics
are.
L711[15:36:50] *
Epsilon is a big fan of text-based roguelikes.
L712[15:38:32] <Zarthus> you guys don't
like 50 bajillion unique planet combinations bruv
L713[15:38:42] <Zarthus> where a rock can
move one pixel and be considered an unique combination
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L716[15:43:01] <sandbox> no, that was
Edinburgh's trams
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L718[15:48:08] <APlayer> So, I've just had
a stupid idea, and now I have an even more stupid question. I took
a hair, put it in a laser beam and looked at the projection. What I
got was a strong focused dot from the laser beam, and two
diffraction spikes perpendicular to the hair, on either side.
However, the spikes themselves were dotted, like the thing you see
in the double slit experiment. What am I missing?
L719[15:48:31] <APlayer> Actually, I
intended to ask in another channel, but this one is fine too.
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L722[16:03:16] <Eddi|zuHause> i'd say the
part of the beam going left of the hair will interfere with the
part of the beam going right of the hair, creating this
interference picture
L723[16:03:31] <Eddi|zuHause> so pretty
much the same as a double slit
L724[16:04:56] <APlayer> But it's not two
slits, but rather one narrow shadow
L725[16:05:27] <Eddi|zuHause> doesn't
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L782[16:37:13] <Epsilon> yay
netsplits
L783[16:38:27] <lordcirth> Aww, Unmanned
Before Manned isn't updated to handle 1.4.x's decouplers
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L785[16:40:22] <JVFoxy> network
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L786[16:41:02] <JVFoxy> eh well
L787[16:41:43] <Epsilon> Let's see how
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L823[19:11:23] <Epsilon> bluh. I can't get
this space shuttle to work.
L824[19:12:50] <UmbralRaptor> Realism
achieved?
L825[19:13:27] <Epsilon> Hey, it didn't
fail THAT many times. ;p
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L827[19:15:04] <Epsilon> Hmmmm.
Alllllllmost enough SAS. Even if that's not how I wanted to fix
this. <_<
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L831[19:56:26] <mischief1> MORE reaction
wheels!
L832[19:57:29] <mischief1> so i'm out of
science on the mun and minmus i think :/
L833[19:57:31] <mischief1> what todo
L834[20:03:23] <Epsilon> Go to Duna?
L835[20:03:37] <Rolf> another world is
whole level harder than moons
L836[20:03:54] <Supercheese> yeah, install
a life support mod and then take 5 Kerbals to Duna
L837[20:03:59] <Supercheese> whole new
ball game
L838[20:04:14] <Epsilon> Rolf: True, but
there's not exactly anywhere else to go, unless mischief1 hops
around biomes on Kerbin first. ;p
L839[20:04:34] <Rolf> thats pretty simple.
super effecient plane and hop around
L840[20:04:45] <Rolf> theres 4 biomes
right near base
L841[20:05:05] <Rolf> base biome,
grassland, unknown (forgot) tiny border, then finally beach
L842[20:05:14] <mischief1> well one
problem is i can't fly planes to save my life
L843[20:05:26] <Rolf> I ont know if there
is another biome in water, if even gettable
L844[20:05:26] <mischief1> i think i just
built my first working rover, so i could go around in that.
L845[20:05:41] <mischief1> Rolf: but
that's not much science is it?
L846[20:05:55] <mischief1> i already got
some several thousand science from mun and minmus..
L847[20:05:56] <Rolf> planes is simple
with sas. just point back down to horzional once a while
L848[20:06:16] <Rolf> supereffecient
planes almost fly by itself
L849[20:06:41] <Rolf> longer body, huge
wings. small motor (it'll barely take off)
L850[20:06:47] <Rolf> it'll last
forever
L851[20:07:46] <Rolf> for harder biomes
like mountain you just use rocket short hop
L852[20:09:41] <Epsilon> ... I kind of
want to just drive a rover all around Kerbin now.
L853[20:09:56] <Rolf> much safer than mun
river driving lol
L854[20:10:17] <Rolf> I overdesigned a
rover once, and it spent more time flying than driving
L855[20:10:21] <Rolf> or gliding
L856[20:10:31] <Epsilon> That's the best
way to do it though. >:3
L857[20:10:40] <Rolf> crashed at hill side
because couldnt stop as it wasnt even touching ground
L858[20:11:23] <Rolf> my nephew made a
self-correcting rover because it kept flipping lol
L859[20:11:37] <Rolf> used one landing leg
and nozzles
L860[20:11:47] <mischief1> my rover flips
beautifully
L861[20:13:15] <mischief1> hm
L862[20:13:20] <mischief1> i wonder how to
get it to stop flipping
L863[20:14:33] <Epsilon> heh heh heh
L864[20:15:31] <Rolf> lower weight mass,
if failing that, wider stance
L865[20:16:03] <mischief1> yea im making
it wider
L866[20:16:14] <mischief1> the
not-rockomax micronode is weird :/
L867[20:16:18] <mischief1> i can't mirror
around it
L868[20:17:15] <Rolf> wish its possible to
have "make a rover kit", it'd be possible if kerbins
could build stuff
L869[20:17:22] <Rolf> given they have
materials of course
L870[20:17:32] <Supercheese> that's what
the "Ground Construction" mod does!
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L873[20:18:34] <Rolf> DIY KIT Hanide with
care! lol
L874[20:18:47] <mischief1> GRRRR
L875[20:18:57] <mischief1> i can't set
mirror symmetry mode >:(
L876[20:19:00] <mischief1> wtf
L877[20:18:57] <Rolf> [sic]
L878[20:19:08] <Epsilon> mischief1:
Shift+R?
L879[20:19:19] <mischief1> it's just
r
L880[20:19:30] <mischief1> but when i set
it and try to place the part, it's forced back to radial
L881[20:19:33] <mischief1> i don't want
radial
L882[20:19:35] <Epsilon> Ahh, okay.
L883[20:20:25] <Epsilon> I thought you
might've ended up switched by accident.
L884[20:20:41] <Epsilon> ... I feel like I
should be making a box truck with these structural panels instead
of an all-terrain rover. >_>
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L886[20:21:04] <mischief1> i'm still
really baffled how anyone makes a useable rover
L887[20:21:16] <mischief1> the parts leave
something to be desired, and placing them correctly is
painful
L888[20:21:23] <Epsilon> Kerbal
Foundries.
L889[20:21:34] <Epsilon> Well. Depends on
what you mean by rover, because I typically end up making tanks.
>_>
L891[20:21:48] <mischief1> whenever i
mouse over the octagonal strut, it goes to radial mode :/
L892[20:21:57] <mischief1> and i need that
wheel in mirror mode obviously
L893[20:22:04] <Epsilon> Hrm.
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L895[20:22:17] <Rolf> hex is annoying like
that
L896[20:22:20] <Epsilon> What if you
remove it at the closest octogonal strut, and -then- try to
mirror?
L897[20:22:23] <Rolf> suggest square
one
L898[20:22:37] <Epsilon> i.e. mirror
wheel+strut+strut+strut around them middle?
L899[20:22:55] <mischief1> Rolf: but the
front wheels worked fine in mirror mode!
L900[20:24:21] <mischief1> Epsilon:
:|
L901[20:24:24] <mischief1> that
works
L902[20:24:29] <Epsilon> \o/
L903[20:24:36] <mischief1> making one
wheel/strut and then detatching it and mirroring it
L904[20:24:51] <Rolf> fun
L906[20:25:37] <Rolf> looks good. where is
mass center located at?
L907[20:25:55] <mischief1> pretty much in
the center :)
L908[20:26:08] <Rolf> hmm better if bit
lower but workable :)
L909[20:26:12] <mischief1> in the
micronodes
L910[20:27:12] <mischief1> now i just need
some science bits
L911[20:27:38] <Epsilon> fffffff-
L912[20:27:46] <Epsilon> mischief1: You
cursed me with your symmetry problems. >;o
L913[20:29:27] <mischief1> hehe
L914[20:29:39] <mischief1> just remove it
and then try to mirror ;-)
L915[20:29:47] <Epsilon> Already done.
:V
L916[20:29:59] <Epsilon> It looks like the
structural panels don't support symmetry around themselves?
L918[20:30:11] <mischief1> for
science!
L919[20:32:09] <Rolf> looks
reasonable.
L920[20:32:19] <Rolf> if can add single
RTG is night
L921[20:32:21] <Rolf> *for
L922[20:32:32] <Epsilon> grumble
L923[20:32:41] *
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it...
L924[20:32:47] <Epsilon> Which is the
whole reason I'm building a rover right now. <_<
L926[20:33:18] <Rolf> solars do pretty
good job anyway
L927[20:33:34] <mischief1> yeah no rtg
here yet.
L928[20:33:43] <mischief1> i won't need
them unless i try to go far out
L929[20:33:48] <mischief1> i should be
fine for duna and eve
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L931[20:37:02] <mischief1> one problem:
this antenna is crap
L932[20:37:59] <mischief1> or maybe i just
need more batteries
L933[20:40:45] <mischief1> lesson learned:
don't go too fast
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L935[20:43:13] <Epsilon> grr
L936[20:43:22] <Epsilon> Right, that's why
I've always used spaceplane cockpits for rovers.
L937[20:43:27] <Epsilon> You can't put
someone in a command seat. :(
L938[20:43:44] <mischief1> hm?
L939[20:45:38] <Epsilon> I can't start a
flight with someone in a command seat.
L940[20:46:06] <Epsilon> Hm, maybe I
should redo this to use the planetary cupola as a base. I wonder if
K&K has a piece with a cargo bay...
L941[20:46:50] <Epsilon> ooooo
L942[20:46:56] <Epsilon> Yes. Totally
redoing this. <_<
L943[20:50:10] <Eddi|zuHause> i used to
have a mod that contained a car, that you could use for kerbin
science
L944[20:50:29] <Eddi|zuHause> that is
probably horribly outdated by now
L945[20:50:50] <Eddi|zuHause> also,
there's a lack of roads on kerbin
L946[20:51:42] <Eddi|zuHause> it didn't
really help that i wanted to go to a place behind mountains
L947[20:52:29] <Eddi|zuHause> i was trying
some easteregg mission
L948[20:52:38] <mischief1> takes quite a
while to drive anywhere
L949[20:53:05] <mischief1> at 20m/s anyway
:)
L950[20:53:18] <Eddi|zuHause> well, the
time wasn't really the problem, but one wrong move, and everything
explodes, and you have to go back to a quicksave
L951[20:53:34] <mischief1> yeah
L952[20:53:43] <mischief1> accidentally
hit a ramp earlier at 15m/s
L953[20:53:44] <mischief1> went boom
L954[20:53:57] <Rolf> Epsilon: do same
trick as I do, and have deteching cockpot
L955[20:54:16] <Rolf> just get out, walk
to rover, disconnect and off you go. much ligher which is a
bonus
L956[20:54:19] <Eddi|zuHause> i was aiming
for 30m/s, i think
L957[20:54:42] <Eddi|zuHause> at least on
flat land, that works
L958[20:54:48] <mischief1> oh hey physics
warp works :)
L959[20:55:11] <Eddi|zuHause> i think the
mod broke when they reworked how wheels work
L960[20:55:28] <Epsilon> Eh. The tracks
already weigh 10t. The cockpit isn't going to hurt anything.
<_<
L961[20:57:57] <mischief1> huh
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L963[20:58:08] <mischief1> really easy to
hurt yourself with physics accel on 'flat' ground
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L968[20:59:17] <Epsilon> ... but obviously
something can hurt the cockpit.
L969[20:59:18] <Epsilon> dammit
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L971[20:59:47] <Eddi|zuHause> the ground
isn't actually that flat most of the time
L972[21:00:04] <mischief1> its gonna take
ages to get to the mountains
L973[21:01:06] <Eddi|zuHause> and every
corner potentially destroys your wheels
L974[21:01:06] <Eddi|zuHause> and you need
like 3 star engineer to fix wheels
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L977[21:02:05] <Eddi|zuHause> also, i then
reached the mountains, and there weren't enough flat surfaces to go
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L979[21:02:28] <Epsilon> ...
hahahahahaha
L980[21:02:30] <Epsilon> crap
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L983[21:02:53] <Epsilon> Stuck like a
turtle.
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L985[21:03:08] <Epsilon> These tracks are
great! They're reversible!
L986[21:03:14] <Eddi|zuHause> turn off
reaction wheels on rovers
L987[21:03:20] <Epsilon> They'll work
right side up or upside down!
L988[21:03:28] <mischief1> Eddi|zuHause:
can one at least get to the biome?
L989[21:03:29] <Epsilon> Unfortunately,
SOLAR PANELS don't work the same way.
L990[21:03:29] <Epsilon> <_<
L991[21:03:30] <Epsilon> >_.
L992[21:03:47] <Eddi|zuHause> you can get
to the mountain biome fine
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L995[21:03:54] <Eddi|zuHause> but i wanted
to go BEYOND the mountains
L996[21:04:15] <Epsilon> I'm playing a 10x
rescale mod. This is going to be just a -little- bit of a trip...
>_>
L997[21:05:27] <Epsilon> Oh hey. I -do-
have an RTG.
L998[21:05:30] <Epsilon> ... of
sorts.
L999[21:06:56] <Eddi|zuHause> if you turn
off reaction wheels, you're much less likely to flip over
L1000[21:07:19] <Epsilon> ... I'm not
sure I could put reaction wheels on this that are big enough to
flip it over.
L1001[21:07:23] <Epsilon> Or prevent it
from doing so. >_<
L1002[21:07:25] <mischief1> my rovemate
has no reaction wheels :)
L1003[21:08:04] <Epsilon> It's 25t. I
wasn't joking about the tank comment. ;p
L1004[21:08:35] <mischief1> can it refine
ore? :)
L1005[21:09:03] <Eddi|zuHause> the
rovemate is somewhat terrible, because it makes the navball face
the wrong way
L1006[21:09:30] <Eddi|zuHause> you don't
see the horizon, and the heading is completely wrong
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L1008[21:10:12] <mischief1> ah yeah
L1009[21:10:20] <mischief1> there really
should be a set heading thing in the VAB
L1010[21:10:24] <mischief1> like how you
can rotate a part
L1011[21:10:27] <mischief1> rotate
default heading
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L1013[21:13:37] <Eddi|zuHause> there are
a few workarounds
L1014[21:14:21] <Epsilon> Oooo. If I
wanted to get really cute, I could just put a science lab in here
too. >_>
L1015[21:14:44] <oren> hey! I can switch
vessels while kerbals are on a ladder?!
L1016[21:15:14] <oren> when did they fix
that??
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L1018[21:17:28] <Eddi|zuHause> no idea,
but i'm fairly sure that worked already in 1.3
L1019[21:18:01] <Eddi|zuHause> however,
kerbals have the tendency to randomly slide off ladders
L1020[21:19:13] <Eddi|zuHause> sometimes
i wish there were security cable hooks, so you don't have to mess
around with thrusters to get back to the pod
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L1028[21:38:00] <Rolf> nice
L1029[21:38:11] <Rolf> your rover is
definitely nice and functional
L1030[21:40:23] <mischief1> didn't get a
lot of science from the mission
L1031[21:40:29] <mischief1> but at least
i have a working rover :)
L1032[21:40:43] <mischief1> maybe if i
make it a bit skinnier i can fit it on a ship to the mun or
minmus
L1033[21:41:38] <mischief1> hm
L1034[21:41:45] <mischief1> advanced
motors or ion propulsion o.O
L1035[21:42:08] <Epsilon> Oh come
ON.
L1036[21:42:13] <Epsilon> You've gotta be
kidding me.
L1037[21:42:30] <Supercheese> well, if
all else fails
L1038[21:42:34] <Supercheese> there's
always HyperEdit
L1039[21:43:54] <Epsilon> I need 1000
science to grab the node I was shooting for.
L1040[21:44:01] <Epsilon> Went on a quick
jaunt around KSC.
L1042[21:44:06] <Epsilon> :I
L1043[21:44:51] <Rolf> I hate picture
host sites that dont allow me to zoom in.
L1044[21:45:26] <Rolf> kerbin itself dont
have much science I guess, but still, nice place to start
from
L1045[21:46:25] <Epsilon> I just want an
RTG for my satellite. :(
L1046[21:57:37] <Rolf> does other base
have science to be found?
L1047[22:00:13] <mischief1> Epsilon: take
a strategy that exchanges $ for science and do a quick
contract
L1048[22:00:18] <mischief1> shouldn't
take long..
L1049[22:00:51] <mischief1> what's the
red/orange rep bar?
L1050[22:00:57] <mischief1> is your
reputation really bad?
L1051[22:03:10] <Epsilon> Yeah, I started
at -1000.
L1052[22:09:25] <mischief1> o_o
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L1055[22:10:09] <Epsilon> It just makes
for an interesting hole to climb out of.
L1058[22:11:05] <mabus> what sort of jobs
do you get with -1000 rep
L1059[22:11:14] <mabus> what do they even
trust you to do
L1060[22:11:22] <Epsilon> Not many.
:B
L1061[22:11:55] <Epsilon> As far as
stock, it was all milestone type stuff.
L1062[22:11:58] <mabus> host world
cup
L1063[22:12:00] <Epsilon> Reach orbit,
etc.
L1064[22:12:23] <Epsilon> mabus: I know
that's supposed to be funny, but I don't know why it is. :V
L1065[22:13:00] <Epsilon> ... F1 is the
screenshot key for KSP, right?
L1066[22:13:11] <mabus> russia had that
whole doping scandal during their 2016 olympics so it seemed kind
of wild to have them host the world cup for soccer right after
that
L1067[22:14:15] <Epsilon> Oh, okay, it's
a reference to TWO things I don't care about then. :V
L1068[22:14:32] <Epsilon> ... that -is- a
rather interesting choice though, assuming they have any sort of
authority over the event as hosts.
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L1070[22:16:00] <Epsilon> Ah-hah. It
-was- F1.
L1072[22:16:30] <Epsilon> It is a LONG
trip to the foothills. >_<
L1073[22:17:26] <mischief1> took me 15/20
minutes to go from ksc to the nearby mountains
L1074[22:17:32] <mischief1> at
15-30m/s
L1075[22:17:53] <mischief1> with a rocket
and careful driving you'd get there a bit faster :)
L1076[22:18:04] <Epsilon> It's taken me
about the same to get to the foothills (i.e. where the shores biome
ends) at 60m/s.
L1077[22:18:07] <Epsilon> whee rescale
mod :V
L1078[22:18:42] <mischief1> oh.
L1079[22:19:25] <lordcirth> I'm
impatiently waiting for Sigma Dimensions to be out for 1.4.5.
L1080[22:19:39] <lordcirth> Well, Sigma
is waiting for Kopernicus, too.
L1081[22:19:46] <Epsilon> Yeah, I just
reverted to 1.4.3.
L1082[22:20:00] <Epsilon> But also, it
appears that -some- mods that were recompiled for 1.4.4 don't
work.
L1083[22:20:07] <Epsilon> Which isn't
surprising, but is certainly annoying.
L1084[22:20:20] <lordcirth> Yeah, I
probably should try that, but I just finished installing all the
*other* mods over a slow connection.
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L1087[22:39:50] <Epsilon> 43km from the
grasslands to the shore (the corner, not the straight shot I admit)
at 70m/s.
L1088[22:42:39] <Epsilon> ... okay. Some
of these missions aren't actually paying attention to my rep.
o.o
L1089[22:42:45] <Epsilon> "Launch
Rover to Duna and Land"
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