OCLogs: 2018-07-29.log

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L9[00:49:05] <Epsilon> ... oh wow, I'm dumb. 1.4.3 didn't disable NFP. I forgot to install it. -_-

L10[00:55:16] <Althego> yes, works better if it is installed :)

L11[00:55:32] <Althego> just as yesterday the kos scripts

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L13[01:04:31] <Epsilon> heh heh

L14[01:05:08] <Epsilon> KSPI-E installs a lot of random crap. :I

L15[01:05:26] * Epsilon pesters FreeThinker to ask what all the stuff is in the folder for.

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L23[02:07:02] <oren> https://imgur.com/LG0ZKLy

L24[02:07:02] <kmath> https://i.imgur.com/LG0ZKLy.jpg

L25[02:07:16] <Epsilon> hahahaha

L26[02:07:23] <oren> these wheels seem alot stronger than they used to be

L27[02:07:26] <Althego> hehe

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L35[02:50:10] <oren> https://imgur.com/Kx8gvgy another 10 tourists

L36[02:50:11] <kmath> https://i.imgur.com/Kx8gvgy.png

L37[02:50:45] <Mat2ch> so, you're better than BlueOrigin then. :D

L38[02:51:12] <oren> I wonder how long I can make this design

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L40[02:53:04] <mischief1> probably quite long if you keep adding parachutes

L41[02:53:11] <mischief1> but can you get enough passengers?

L42[02:53:33] <Rolf> infinite

L43[02:53:47] <Rolf> though you need infinite parts and parachutes so probably not

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L46[02:59:01] <oren> ok, trying it with 12

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L59[04:41:48] <Althego> hah where have you been

L60[04:42:17] <Fluburtur> out because I was too lazy to register and stuff

L61[04:42:30] <APlayer> Sorry guys :/

L62[04:42:37] <APlayer> It seems to be over now, though

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L64[04:44:29] <Althego> there was no wintergatan upload either

L65[04:44:35] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/254984631512858634/472859829472460820/DSC_9379.JPG

L66[04:44:58] <sandbox> the spambots are still doing their thing, but the message has changed

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L73[04:53:52] <Fluburtur> https://78.media.tumblr.com/3bf12b3a34af5f6ae7b032151f94a17e/tumblr_p4at2aH30y1wsbn2ao1_540.jpg

L74[04:54:56] <Fluburtur> I saw someone on tumblr go like "rejoice, nasa decided pluto is a planet again"

L75[04:54:57] <Triffid_Hunter> woah, they're actually checking my 4 year old bug report about gilly's terrain in map view being radically different to ship view.. if anyone's curious; https://bugs.kerbalspaceprogram.com/issues/1735

L76[04:55:32] <Althego> i hit joolian moons while above the surface according to map

L77[04:55:34] <Althego> similar issue

L78[05:02:29] <Althego> 1.4.5 was really a minimalé change release. coupled with the mention of 1.5 in the previous devnote, they might be partially working on the next release already

L79[05:07:33] <mischief1> seemed just like bug fixes

L80[05:07:45] <Althego> but very few of them

L81[05:11:54] <Deddly> Awesome, Triffid_Hunter. Congrats

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L86[05:39:02] <Mat2ch> https://youtu.be/L2tc2r3jwhE?t=373 folding legs :D

L87[05:39:18] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: and then she got stuck :D

L88[05:41:50] <Althego> i linked this yesterday. yes they are floding slowly. but at least no more need to take them off as i used to be

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L90[06:02:08] <Mat2ch> Althego: I guess they'll speed this up, when they are confident, that it works

L91[06:05:58] <Althego> how do they clean up all the soot?

L92[06:09:55] <Fluburtur> btw have you seen the new flite test forum challenge?

L93[06:10:00] <Fluburtur> https://forum.flitetest.com/index.php?threads/draft-2019-fantasy-aircraft-design-build-challenge-guidelines.54574/

L94[06:10:19] <Fluburtur> fiction aircrafts, I suggested the theme and peoples went with it so that's cool

L95[06:10:26] <Althego> what, no nausicaa plane?

L96[06:10:51] <Fluburtur> I remember last year's challenge, some peoples already had flying protos before the challenge was officially started

L97[06:10:57] <Fluburtur> dude made a plane in one week

L98[06:13:07] <Mat2ch> Althego: they wont.

L99[06:13:27] <Althego> but then the rocket gets heavier with each launch

L100[06:21:54] <Mat2ch> Maybe give it a power wash

L101[06:22:08] <Mat2ch> but I don't think that they'll do more

L102[06:48:06] <Fluburtur> time to start yet another complex plane project

L103[06:48:11] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/254984631512858634/473087885013286912/falken.jpg

L104[06:48:38] <Althego> now that you have 3dprinting

L105[06:48:53] <Fluburtur> only a few parts will be printed

L106[06:48:59] <Fluburtur> will mostly be foam and cardboard

L107[06:49:16] <Fluburtur> it's for the flite test forum challenge so anyone needs to be able to make one from plans

L108[06:50:13] <Fluburtur> and even if I make it at 1/12 sclae it will be 2 meters long

L109[06:50:19] <Fluburtur> because the real one is supa big

L110[06:51:24] <Fluburtur> I will try to get a profile prop slot version done int he next few days to prove it can at least fly before making the more complicated one

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L116[08:21:32] <Fluburtur> "The Cub is the safest airplane in the world; it can just barely kill you"

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L119[08:46:01] <AndroUser> o/

L120[08:46:07] *** AndroUser is now known as BadRocketsCo

L121[08:46:09] <BadRocketsCo> Oups

L122[08:46:14] <Fluburtur> lel

L123[08:46:24] <BadRocketsCo> There we go

L124[08:46:30] <BadRocketsCo> Zup Fluburtur?

L125[08:46:42] <Fluburtur> im working on too many complcayed projects

L126[08:47:06] <Fluburtur> luckily I have until february to finish the most difficult one

L127[08:47:11] <BadRocketsCo> Hehe. How's your rocket engine/plane going?

L128[08:47:21] <Fluburtur> no progress since last time

L129[08:47:43] <BadRocketsCo> Ah, okay. What else are you working on?

L130[08:47:54] <Fluburtur> lemme show you

L131[08:48:00] <Fluburtur> you have seen the vg33 right?

L132[08:48:10] <Fluburtur> this is the other one https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/254984631512858634/473087885013286912/falken.jpg

L133[08:49:26] <BadRocketsCo> Oooh, nice!

L134[08:49:44] <Fluburtur> for the flite test forum challenge

L135[08:50:25] <BadRocketsCo> Noiss

L136[08:51:04] <BadRocketsCo> Fluburtur: oh btw, did I show you my RO Mars mission yet?

L137[08:51:11] <Fluburtur> no

L138[08:52:29] <BadRocketsCo> Fluburtur: https://imgur.com/a/dB5yE4R

L139[08:53:20] <Fluburtur> nice

L140[08:53:28] <BadRocketsCo> Thx

L141[08:56:26] <BadRocketsCo> Sooo, you getting this heatwave aswell?

L142[08:56:59] <Fluburtur> yeah

L143[09:00:11] <BadRocketsCo> Heh. It's absolutely murderous...

L144[09:00:42] <Fluburtur> I also have the 3d printer running all the time so even more heat

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L152[09:08:12] <APlayer> BadRocketsCo: Is that all you show people of your mission?

L153[09:08:20] * APlayer wants MOAR pics

L154[09:12:12] <BadRocketsCo> APlayer: Ares I Propulsion Stage https://imgur.com/a/UB4gBIy

L155[09:13:03] <APlayer> Yay! Thanks! :D

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L160[09:15:31] <AndroUser2> Ugh

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L166[09:16:26] <BadRocketsCo> There, back

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L168[09:18:03] <BadRocketsCo> APlayer: anyway, that's all I have I am afraid :D

L169[09:18:27] <APlayer> No problem. Will have to produce some images myself then :P

L170[09:20:21] <mischief1> haha

L171[09:20:35] <mischief1> i kinda want prop planes in ksp

L172[09:20:42] <mischief1> https://cdna.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/004/208/494/large/christian-pearce-battlesandwich-pearce.jpg :)

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L181[09:54:18] <Draconiator> https://i.gyazo.com/3d097874967fcb1db97b82b8035bd067.png - lol, I guess modern computers depreciated these things heh

L182[09:55:14] <Althego> i have never seen a 720 kb disk

L183[09:55:20] <Althego> 1.2 m or 1.44 m

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L185[09:58:59] <TheKosmonaut> Whoa whoa

L186[09:59:02] <TheKosmonaut> 720kb?

L187[09:59:11] <TheKosmonaut> what would you ever need that much storage for?

L188[09:59:11] <Althego> yes supposedly they existed

L189[09:59:32] <Althego> 640kb shhould be enough for everybodY?

L190[09:59:46] <TheKosmonaut> You could fit like 1000 books on that

L191[10:00:29] <TheKosmonaut> Let me just spool up my hard disk

L192[10:00:34] <TheKosmonaut> it is a whopping 2mb

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L195[10:15:13] <Draconiator> I sort of typoed the drive letter too once....Ahhhh I'm still me lol

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L200[10:22:05] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/254984631512858634/473148174685700097/DSC_9382.JPG

L201[10:25:35] <JVFoxy> trying out a method of hinge or this a repair?

L202[10:26:35] <Fluburtur> im just makign the tail of a plane

L203[10:26:44] <Fluburtur> all the control lines will be hidden inside

L204[10:29:05] <JVFoxy> asking if repair because I've a few foam hinges that snapped on me..

L205[10:29:22] <Fluburtur> fiber tape works good

L206[10:29:33] <JVFoxy> ok

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L209[10:32:18] <JVFoxy> pair of Flyzone Millennium Masters been in storage, took a bit of damage from being through a number of moves. :\

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L211[11:01:06] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231106102693986314/473158012819996672/20180729174427_1.jpg

L212[11:24:08] <JVFoxy> um.. whoops?

L213[11:25:49] <Althego> challenge, build a doorway above a helicopter (with spinning blades for hard mode)

L214[11:29:33] <JVFoxy> build..? Here I thought someone slide the heli in under the frame by accident

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L216[11:40:24] <Althego> axl looks like a cross of short circuit and some dog movie

L217[11:43:20] <sandbox> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibeon_(meteorite)#/media/File:Widmanst%C3%A4tten_pattern_kevinzim.jpg

L218[11:55:02] <Althego> is it kryptonite?

L219[12:01:19] <GlassYuri> I thought I may have fever so I measured and the thermometer said 90 degrees https://twitter.com/tatsusoccer0907/status/1023568664371462144

L220[12:01:19] <kmath> <tatsusoccer0907> 熱っぽいから体温測ろうと思ったら90度だった https://t.co/9JaZb0kPwE

L221[12:01:48] <Althego> looks broken

L222[12:01:52] <Althego> in what units?

L223[12:02:10] <Althego> japanese use si, so c

L224[12:04:20] <GlassYuri> I am pretty sure that thermometer is only good for degrees of angle now

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L226[12:04:34] <Althego> ah it was a joke

L227[12:05:01] <JVFoxy> thats so 'rad'

L228[12:05:07] <Althego> heh

L229[12:05:13] <JVFoxy> si...

L230[12:06:34] <JVFoxy> sigh... not spanish.. oops

L231[12:10:59] <Althego> must be silicon then :)

L232[12:13:43] <Fluburtur> speaking of, last thing I did at my job was a series of very difficult to build thermometers

L233[12:13:57] <Fluburtur> that are made to correct refractometer readings

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L235[12:14:51] <Althego> we can see you badrockets

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L240[12:39:33] <Fluburtur> https://youtu.be/5ZpFVARvo5w

L241[12:39:33] <kmath> YouTube - elevator music

L242[12:42:10] <Althego> this is what i always think of when reading elevator music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdsXggne6sA

L243[12:42:10] <kmath> YouTube - Return of the Jedi - Missing Elevator Scene

L244[12:42:51] <Fluburtur> lmao

L245[12:45:50] <Fluburtur> https://forum.flitetest.com/index.php?threads/f14-build-and-aluminum-build.54610/#post-423288

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L248[13:04:51] <Fluburtur> https://youtu.be/RQGa0DPwes0

L249[13:04:51] <kmath> YouTube - A calculator made from rollercoasters in Rollercoaster Tycoon 2

L250[13:05:23] <Althego> there are some really sick people

L251[13:05:32] <Epsilon> That's amazing.

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L254[13:16:04] <JVFoxy> wow..

L255[13:16:09] <JVFoxy> sick as in good or bad c.c;

L256[13:16:32] <Epsilon> I'd say "yes"

L257[13:16:46] <Epsilon> You've definitely got some weird issues if you do stuff like that, but it doesn't make it any less impressive. ;)

L258[13:17:33] <JVFoxy> mm... I can build.. but probably not as good as I can 'fly' stuff.

L259[13:17:46] <Althego> the red guy once said in cow and chicken: corn cobb man? there are some really sick people in this town

L260[13:17:49] <JVFoxy> er well... I don't know. I've meaning to put videos out

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L264[13:40:09] <UmbralRaptop> https://twitter.com/Casillic/status/1023597701676642304

L265[13:40:09] <kmath> <Casillic> Nuclear Physics Made Very, Very Easy ⏎ Space Nuclear Propulsion Office ⏎ #Nuclear #Physics #Rockets #Space… https://t.co/f6Pz9pu6ZZ

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L270[14:01:50] <Eddi|zuHause> in germany there's a law that if you cause a nuclear explosion, you get up to 5 years in prison (or a fine)

L271[14:03:28] <Zarthus> what if that's an intentional explosion

L272[14:03:53] <Althego> how many people have been sentenced to this? :)

L273[14:04:46] <Eddi|zuHause> if you can prove intent, you generally get double the penalty

L274[14:05:36] <APlayer> Oh no! How am I going to dispose of my nuclear arsenal now?

L275[14:05:50] <JVFoxy> how 'loosely' do they define nuclear?

L276[14:05:52] <Althego> outside germany

L277[14:05:53] <APlayer> Guess I'll have to detonate it outside of Germany

L278[14:06:04] <sandbox> or make a bigger one

L279[14:06:38] <Eddi|zuHause> APlayer: there's probably a law about exporting nuclear material that you violate in that case :p

L280[14:06:57] <APlayer> I will not export it, I will launch it

L281[14:07:04] <Althego> hehe

L282[14:07:21] <APlayer> I may even get an amateur rocket permit for that

L283[14:16:03] <Eddi|zuHause> so, actually, the law seems to be if you unintentionally cause it ("fahrlässig") you get 1-10 years prison, and intentionally 5+ years. and when someone dies the minimum penalty increases

L284[14:16:32] <JVFoxy> thankfully getting material isn't exactly.. easy

L285[14:16:58] <APlayer> Just mine some in the local uranium rich hills

L286[14:17:20] <sandbox> it was like that when I got here

L287[14:17:24] <Eddi|zuHause> the russians did that during their occupation period

L288[14:17:47] <Eddi|zuHause> -> see "Wismut AG"

L289[14:18:11] <JVFoxy> I would love to tiny RTG.. power something like lights

L290[14:18:13] <KrazyKrl> Don't worry, nukes are ez. See: Castle Bravo.

L291[14:18:16] <JVFoxy> well.. LED lights

L292[14:19:01] <Eddi|zuHause> the ligts on watches used to be like that

L293[14:19:23] <Eddi|zuHause> caused a lot of health troubles for the people who applied the radioactive paint

L294[14:19:29] <JVFoxy> just.. don't lick them. last I remember, radiactive material that clowed

L295[14:19:37] <JVFoxy> glowed.. ugh

L296[14:19:39] <APlayer> Well, those were substances that emitted light and were stimulated by beta decay or something

L297[14:19:43] * JVFoxy shoots own hands. work dang it

L298[14:19:49] <Eddi|zuHause> they were told to lick the tips of the brushes

L299[14:19:55] <Althego> eh

L300[14:20:28] <JVFoxy> :\

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L302[14:20:55] <APlayer> Anyway, I'm pretty sure nobody would let you lick your brush in a corporate environment nowadays. No matter if it's a brush with radioactive material, regular paint or even nothing on it

L303[14:21:21] <JVFoxy> I wouldn't want to lick a brush period

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L305[14:24:26] <APlayer> That sounds reasonable

L306[14:26:22] <Zarthus> not even if it's a really nice brush?

L307[14:26:35] <Zarthus> i'd probably do it for 50 or 100 bucks

L308[14:26:53] <Zarthus> licking hair isn't that disgusting, you get enough of your own hair in your mouth in a lifetime

L309[14:26:57] <JVFoxy> think a cup of water would do more justice than my tongue

L310[14:27:20] <Zarthus> well yeah, for cleaning it.

L311[14:33:50] <Eddi|zuHause> the licking is not for cleaning

L312[14:34:07] <Eddi|zuHause> it is to make the tip sharper, to make it more accurate

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L315[15:00:53] <oren> it doesn't seem like I can get any more than 12 tourists on contract at once

L316[15:03:29] <oren> https://imgur.com/FBo0ruo

L317[15:03:29] <kmath> https://i.imgur.com/FBo0ruo.jpg

L318[15:03:47] <JVFoxy> I wouldn't want more than 12 anyways

L319[15:06:59] <Epsilon> Stupid ladders. >:(

L320[15:08:19] <Epsilon> Surprisingly nice little plane, but the ladder was just a LITTLE too far to the right and I couldn't climb past the wing to get back in. >_<

L321[15:09:30] <JVFoxy> my kerbin system cruise ship.. early career edition: https://imgur.com/a/mghtZHD

L322[15:09:31] <kmath> https://i.imgur.com/AsFSSxW.jpg

L323[15:10:25] <oren> https://imgur.com/53kERW3

L324[15:10:25] <kmath> https://i.imgur.com/53kERW3.png

L325[15:10:49] <Epsilon> I still find that design hilarious. <_<

L326[15:11:13] <oren> it really should not work so well

L327[15:11:55] <JVFoxy> so.. hollowed out pencil craft?

L328[15:12:03] <JVFoxy> hey.. sometimes simple works too

L329[15:12:43] <oren> well it has fins on it to keep the COL on the side opposite the heat shields

L330[15:12:47] <Epsilon> I'm finding the 10.625x rescale mod to be really hard to design for, but kind of in a good way.

L331[15:13:04] <Epsilon> I suspect I'm going to have to "cheat" with KSPI to get anywhere outside the Kerbin system though.

L332[15:13:07] <JVFoxy> I'm debating if I should bring Val/Jeb back down from orbit.. 16 days now

L333[15:13:31] <JVFoxy> Epsilon may consider building in orbit..

L334[15:13:41] <Epsilon> That's kind of what I was considering.

L335[15:13:58] <Epsilon> FreeThinker was actually talking about making KSPI-E modular. I'd love to keep the reactors but not have the engines.

L336[15:14:01] <JVFoxy> I launched my cruiser type ship half full..

L337[15:14:21] <JVFoxy> now it stays in orbit.. has docking ports so I can add options if need

L338[15:14:45] <oren> https://imgur.com/BKJexSo

L339[15:14:46] <kmath> https://i.imgur.com/BKJexSo.jpg

L340[15:15:22] <JVFoxy> ok so.. now its become flaming pencil ;P

L341[15:15:35] <JVFoxy> or .. minecraft terms, blaze rod

L342[15:15:44] <Epsilon> snrk

L343[15:16:26] <KrazyKrl> electroboom.electric_guitar

L344[15:17:12] <Rolf> lol

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L346[15:28:29] <Neal> are the turbofan engines supposed to have a massive flame shooting out the back

L347[15:28:35] <Neal> I feel like its running a little rich

L348[15:29:00] <Eddi|zuHause> you can turn that on and off

L349[15:29:20] <JVFoxy> lol..

L350[15:29:21] <KrazyKrl> afterburning turbofans... because why the hell not?

L351[15:29:32] <JVFoxy> which turbofans?

L352[15:29:35] <KrazyKrl> what's this "overspeed alarm" thing anyhow?!?!?!

L353[15:30:02] <UmbralRaptop> You don't want to pull a МиГ-25, do you?

L354[15:30:08] <Eddi|zuHause> i usually put the toggle for the afterburner on 'R'

L355[15:30:38] <JVFoxy> someone mod'd the panther jets into the goliath?

L356[15:31:13] <Neal> the massive turbofan engines

L357[15:31:21] <Neal> the larget diameter ones in the game

L358[15:31:29] <KrazyKrl> i mean, realistically speaking; is the exaust gas from the low pressure fan turbine really decent enough to reliably afterburn?

L359[15:31:39] <Neal> unlikely

L360[15:31:48] <KrazyKrl> you're already extracting like 60% of the power for the compressor, then most of the rest for the fan.

L361[15:32:04] <JVFoxy> ok ya those the Goliath engines

L362[15:32:24] <JVFoxy> you could get a slight bit of visible flame at high power, maybe at night? Or at least older versions did

L363[15:34:04] <KrazyKrl> they may have... but they shouldn't.

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L365[15:34:22] <KrazyKrl> if it glows after the low pressure turbine, there is still usable work to do.

L366[15:34:28] <Neal> https://i.imgur.com/uoU0ZgR.png

L367[15:34:45] <Neal> is this how you fly a 747

L368[15:39:32] <Eddi|zuHause> what plane are the americans using for parabola flights?

L369[15:39:50] <Neal> I don't think we have an official one

L370[15:39:50] <KrazyKrl> a comet of vomit.

L371[15:40:15] <KrazyKrl> practically any plane can be put into zero g.

L372[15:40:25] <Eddi|zuHause> the europeans use a more or less stock airbus

L373[15:40:26] <KrazyKrl> the negative Gs are the problem for the airframe.

L374[15:40:35] * JVFoxy ughs trying to find pics.. all he keeps coming across are planes having burnt down.

L375[15:40:45] <JVFoxy> did find one pic but its pinterest.. won't let me link

L376[15:40:55] <Neal> we used 727s for a while but I'm pretty sure nasa stopped the 0-g flights

L377[15:41:37] <Eddi|zuHause> and one of the 3 pilots must click away all the "wait, you shouldn't do THIS maneuver" error messages :p

L378[15:42:28] <JVFoxy> at least its not like what happened with airbus...

L379[15:42:42] <JVFoxy> crew tried to abort a landing, ended up fighting computer for control, crashed into woods

L380[15:43:40] <Neal> was that the first flybywire flight

L381[15:43:45] <Neal> for an airshow

L382[15:44:20] <JVFoxy> ya... back when they let computers have full control..

L383[15:44:29] <Eddi|zuHause> i think that one was a "the pilots wanted to do a non-standard maneuver and disabled the security systems" error

L384[15:44:38] <JVFoxy> now.. its changed since.. computers asist for most part

L385[15:45:37] <Eddi|zuHause> my professor collected a few of these fails for a lecture on "how to not develop software"

L386[15:45:53] <Eddi|zuHause> like the milan stock market crash or ariane 5 crash

L387[15:46:25] <Neal> f22 had a crash where the elevator controls got reversed

L388[15:46:28] <Eddi|zuHause> and one of the comments he had was "these are all airbus crashes, but just because it's more difficult to get information on the boeing ones" :p

L389[15:46:36] <Neal> engineer who was working on that part got arrested

L390[15:49:59] <JVFoxy> ah here we go: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_296

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L398[16:31:56] <Rokker> Neal: um... you sure about that?

L399[16:32:04] <Neal> Yes

L400[16:33:30] <Rokker> Neal: when?

L401[16:33:50] <Neal> before the f22 entered mass production

L402[16:35:25] <Rokker> so... YF-22

L403[16:35:31] <Rokker> not F-22

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L406[16:36:57] <Neal> yeah ok

L407[16:37:22] <Neal> you were the one who was anal about calling it the f/a-18 and not the f-18 too

L408[16:37:28] <Neal> it really doesn't matter

L409[16:38:22] <Rokker> f-18 is more understandable

L410[16:38:38] <Rokker> F-22 is a different aircraft from the YF-22

L411[16:38:50] <Rokker> also that's not my understanding of the incident

L412[16:39:45] <KrazyKrl> When a plane takes off, is it wheely good?

L413[16:40:52] <Neal> my professor who worked in the same department in Lockheed during that is my source

L414[16:41:27] <Rokker> Neal: the YF-22 crash, at least the only one I know of was pitch induced oscillation.

L415[16:41:47] <Rokker> not complete reversal of the controls

L416[16:42:11] <Rokker> that's kinda something you notice before takeoff and something you would notice before the 100th program flight

L417[16:42:56] <KrazyKrl> See: Will Smith in Independence Day during the first flight.

L418[16:43:21] <Rokker> https://youtu.be/4JkcrtvN60s

L419[16:43:22] <kmath> YouTube - YF-22 PROTOTYPE JET CRASH!

L420[16:43:46] <Rokker> that's one of my sources

L421[16:45:43] <Rokker> pilot induced*

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L423[16:48:27] <Rokker> Perhaps your professor, as I have found many do, misremembered the event from 30 years ago or wasnt completely in the loop on the situation

L424[16:48:52] <Eddi|zuHause> looks like every of my ksp landings, ever

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L428[16:59:48] <JVFoxy> I haven't had that much troubles myself...

L429[17:00:20] <JVFoxy> its just getting my descent close enough while using spaceplanes

L430[17:00:50] <Eddi|zuHause> I haven't actually left the atmosphere with a plane yet

L431[17:01:23] <JVFoxy> some of my designs, even with just two engines, have the potential to eplode from overheating before even reaching outerspace

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L433[17:07:18] <Rokker> Neal: I found an ERAU archive of an Aviation Week article on it in 92, if you wanna read about it. Pretty interesting case really

L434[17:13:59] <Rokker> Eddi|zuHause: also NASA used a variety of aircraft for the vomit vomet

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L436[17:16:18] <Rokker> C-131 initially, then KC-135 Stratotanker which was the most well known, then in 2005 they switched to C-9B Skytrain II, and now they have a contract for 727-200s

L437[17:16:24] <Rokker> Eddi|zuHause: ^

L438[17:18:05] <Rolf> lol so much funny https://imgur.com/a/3O582pr

L439[17:18:59] <Rokker> Rolf: slap an ifunny watermark on that baby and ship it out

L440[17:19:09] <Rolf> lol

L441[17:19:36] <Rolf> man sometimes its so hard to find orginial picture due to all those crap sites

L442[17:20:23] <Rolf> sometimes people clip out orginial creator marks and insert their own, sometimes its been recopied so many times its blurry and tons artificts

L443[17:20:33] <Rolf> oh and pinterest. I hate that site

L444[17:20:48] <KrazyKrl> most of the time they are stock photos complete with watermarks.

L445[17:21:13] <KrazyKrl> i have only 2 sites blocked via my router... 9gag, and pintrest. lol.

L446[17:21:40] <Neal> I'm sad google removed the ability to blacklist sites from search results

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L448[17:22:09] <Rolf> I hate pinterest so much because it collects interest pictures, and does not show where it come from. what if I wanted more info?

L449[17:22:20] <Rolf> Neal: use boolean

L450[17:22:26] <Rolf> whatver -pinterest

L451[17:22:33] <Neal> it doesn't always work

L452[17:23:27] <JVFoxy> you can add -pinterest to search profile

L453[17:23:30] <JVFoxy> but ya...

L454[17:23:49] <Neal> or if I want to search for something *about* buzzfeed but not written by buzzfeed, well it's pretty much impossible because the first several pages will be nothing but buzzfeed

L455[17:24:04] <Neal> because they've mastered SEO

L456[17:24:06] <JVFoxy> its annoying seems to grab the site quite a lot... and pics you couldn't always view, site wants you to sign up so badly

L457[17:24:25] <Rolf> maybe buzzfeed -buzzfeed.com

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L459[17:28:37] <Rokker> oh crap https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/TxyzPySV/20180729_182810.jpg

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L461[17:29:55] <Rolf> active desktop? dang! 98 se!

L462[17:30:13] <Neal> my god why are they on windows

L463[17:30:14] <Eddi|zuHause> isn't there "site:" stuff as well?

L464[17:30:27] <Rolf> Eddi|zuHause: its for site specific searches

L465[17:30:46] <Eddi|zuHause> so you can't exclude a site with that?

L466[17:30:50] <Rolf> there is no "not this site" option, besides just removing domain by -whatever.com

L467[17:31:07] <Neal> site: is pretty much the only way to search reddit because their search algorithm is so bad

L468[17:31:09] <Rolf> which unfortunately will also tag articles that also have link

L469[17:33:03] <Supercheese> KSP eating all my RAM

L470[17:33:05] <Supercheese> as usual

L471[17:33:17] <Rokker> Neal: -buzzfeed.com is working fine for me

L472[17:33:22] <Rokker> Supercheese: download more

L473[17:33:33] <Supercheese> I did

L474[17:33:37] <Supercheese> still ate it all

L475[17:33:41] <Supercheese> hungry hungry

L476[17:33:43] <Neal> how much do you have?

L477[17:33:54] <Supercheese> 16 GB

L478[17:34:06] <Supercheese> KSP currently using 13 GB of that

L479[17:34:15] <Neal> uhhhhh

L480[17:34:20] <Neal> how many mods do you have??

L481[17:34:22] <Supercheese> a lot

L482[17:35:23] <Rokker> I have like ro and most mods recommended and otherwise...

L483[17:35:29] <Rokker> I dont touch 13 at all

L484[17:36:53] <Supercheese> well, it's mostly because I have MemGraph set to add extra padding to reduce garbage-collection stuttering

L485[17:37:07] <Supercheese> more RAM = less stutter

L486[17:37:18] <Supercheese> well, less *frequent*

L487[17:41:21] <Rokker> anyways, if anyone wondered about the crash http://pages.erau.edu/~rogers/as309/Videos/YF-22%20Crash.htm

L488[17:42:09] <Rokker> Eddi|zuHause: also as my ADHD riddled mind rears its ugly head, I've seen one of the KC-135 Vomit Comets

L489[17:42:27] <Rokker> the one used in the filming of apollo 11

L490[17:42:36] <Rokker> apollo 13*

L491[17:44:12] <Eddi|zuHause> do i want to know what that is?

L492[17:45:33] <Rokker> Eddi|zuHause: the parabola flight planes

L493[17:45:37] <Rokker> that's their name

L494[17:45:44] <Rokker> vomit comet

L495[17:46:23] <Eddi|zuHause> aha

L496[17:47:52] <Rokker> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/ALbLHvQp/20180302_135043.jpg

L497[17:48:30] <JVFoxy> ya remember the access hatch down below there... instead of a normal door on teh body

L498[17:48:58] <JVFoxy> guess so they don't have to worry about making space in the activity area for door protection or osmething?

L499[17:51:09] <Rokker> JVFoxy: nah that's just the norm for the C-135 family

L500[17:51:22] <Rokker> military planes, gotta take off fast

L501[17:51:42] <Rokker> no time or room for a jetway

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L503[17:56:29] <JVFoxy> ah right...

L504[17:56:33] <JVFoxy> wasn't familiar with 135's

L505[18:00:55] <Rokker> JVFoxy: known internally in Boeing as the 717, it shares a common heritage with the 707 in that both are based of the boeing 367-80 commercial jet concept. It uses the same engines as the 707 but a smaller fuselage and different electronics. the basic cargo variant has been dead for a while but it serves the US Air Force in a number of refueling, electronics and reconnaissance rolls, the refueling variant being what the NASA KC-135s were before

L506[18:00:55] <Rokker> they flew as vomit comets

L507[18:01:04] <Rokker> I like them

L508[18:01:10] <Rokker> solid planes

L509[18:01:29] <JVFoxy> ok.. a little familiar with the 707

L510[18:02:16] <Eddi|zuHause> ok, i recognize most of the words in that, but the text makes no sense whatsoever

L511[18:03:07] <Eddi|zuHause> also i think the cat wants some food

L512[18:03:45] <Rokker> JVFoxy: the Boeing 367-80 is the one famous for doing a giant barrel roll

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L514[18:04:20] <Rokker> commonly misidentified as the 707

L515[18:06:05] <Rokker> https://youtu.be/2Bvhov0nxPQ

L516[18:06:06] <kmath> YouTube - Boeing company 707 dash 80 completes a barrel roll during early flight testing to show the aircrafts abilities

L517[18:13:37] <Rokker> Eddi|zuHause: what doesnt make sense

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L519[18:17:22] <Rokker> gtg

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L521[18:31:03] <oren> https://imgur.com/slZRubP

L522[18:31:04] <kmath> https://i.imgur.com/slZRubP.jpg

L523[18:32:06] <oren> this is not enough to get into orbit

L524[18:34:22] <JVFoxy> ... no booster?

L525[18:36:02] <oren> there was a booster, just not enough of one.

L526[18:36:43] <Rolf> sure it can with infinite fuel cheat :P

L527[18:37:13] <Rolf> anyway the answer is ALWAYS "more booster!" even when its too many boosters.

L528[18:40:56] <Azander> or more struts, if it like to rapid disassemble before you are ready

L529[18:41:01] <Azander> *loikes

L530[18:41:03] <Azander> *likes

L531[18:41:58] <Rolf> yeah struts ward off kraken

L532[18:42:47] <Rolf> one time I was bored so I played with one ship file

L533[18:43:00] <Rolf> I made clamp 10000m tall

L534[18:43:04] <Rolf> worked lol

L535[18:43:30] <Rolf> it made launching easier :P though ship was moving way too slow and had to get up to orbital speed

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L538[19:16:14] <oren> https://imgur.com/5jdaIQc

L539[19:16:14] <kmath> https://i.imgur.com/5jdaIQc.jpg

L540[19:16:25] <oren> been a while since I made a spaceplane

L541[19:19:10] <Rolf> wow pretty short wings lol

L542[19:19:17] <Rolf> great for supersonic flights

L543[19:19:31] <oren> https://imgur.com/hxPMBt6 made it to orbit

L544[19:19:31] <kmath> https://i.imgur.com/hxPMBt6.jpg

L545[19:19:45] <Rolf> nice!

L546[19:19:59] <Rolf> I tried to have a kinda spacex type plane and rocket

L547[19:20:05] <Rolf> but never succeed on it

L548[19:20:13] <Rolf> even with fairly small rocket cargo

L549[19:20:21] <Rolf> plane simply couldnt do it lol

L550[19:20:31] <Rolf> or rocket couldnt orbit after deteching from plane

L551[19:37:12] <Eddi|zuHause> what are those overlay lines?

L552[19:37:14] <mabus> first time on a bike in like 6 years, did 9km. not bad!

L553[19:37:32] <Rolf> bleh need to fix mine

L554[19:37:52] <Eddi|zuHause> i wanted to get a new bike for ages

L555[19:37:54] <mabus> my friend did 100km the other week

L556[19:38:10] <mabus> in one go that is

L557[19:38:12] <mabus> not over a week

L558[19:38:59] <Eddi|zuHause> well, some tour de france etappes are over 200km

L559[19:39:01] <Rolf> and new gearing system for mine. ugh forgot that till now

L560[19:39:18] <Rolf> I probably reached 500 miles on the cheap bicycle

L561[19:39:48] <Rolf> im poretty sure its over thousand but not certain, I certainly did a lot of 50 mile trips.

L562[19:39:55] <mabus> yeah im not exactly tour de france shape

L563[19:40:02] <mabus> i had cigarettes and pizza along that 9km

L564[19:40:04] <Eddi|zuHause> that does not sound like a lot

L565[19:40:05] <Rolf> neither am I lol

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L567[19:40:50] <Rolf> I dont know if I can do 10 mile now, been years lol

L568[19:41:55] <Eddi|zuHause> the trouble with my village is, each direction you could exit it, it is uphill. and any places where you'd want to go is >15km away

L569[19:42:29] <Eddi|zuHause> and you'd need a shower at the destination

L570[19:43:40] <Eddi|zuHause> those are the 3 main reason that kept me from hopping on a bike in the last ~10 years

L571[19:44:21] <Rolf> wow

L572[19:44:29] <Rolf> free exercise "bowl"

L573[19:44:53] <Rolf> gradient is great for your muscles.

L574[19:45:16] <Eddi|zuHause> i bought an indoor bike thingie, which i don't use nearly as often as i should

L575[19:50:21] <mabus> its extreme hills where i'm at, too

L576[19:50:33] <mabus> on the plus side the way back was mostly downhill

L577[19:50:52] <Rolf> heh I reember old days at calfornia

L578[19:51:01] <Rolf> I lived near extreme hills, and I was very curious kid

L579[19:51:16] <Rolf> after couple years of that, I was a very curious iron legs kid

L580[19:51:53] <Eddi|zuHause> the area is theoretically rather flat here, just it's cut through by all these tiny valleys... each village is in a valley, and all the travel paths are on the upper plane

L581[19:52:34] <Eddi|zuHause> and you have to cross like 3 of these valleys before you get to the city

L582[19:54:18] <Eddi|zuHause> you could theoretically get from each valley to the city on water level, but there are no paths that go along all the little streams, or the big river

L583[19:54:55] <Rolf> fun

L584[19:55:55] <Eddi|zuHause> each valley is like 50m height difference

L585[19:56:15] <Eddi|zuHause> to the surrounding plane

L586[19:56:27] <Eddi|zuHause> plain?

L587[19:56:31] <Eddi|zuHause> one of those

L588[19:57:36] <Rolf> pretty high but not too bad

L589[19:57:47] <Rolf> calfornia one I went up 45 degree angled roads lol

L590[19:58:04] <Rolf> I didnt have nice street bike but old steel one. fun

L591[19:58:08] <Eddi|zuHause> grades here are like 8%

L592[19:58:32] <mabus> theres like 3 45 degree hills on my little route

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L594[20:00:05] <Rolf> heh I always thought 45 was max till I drove up a 50 degree one. insane.

L595[20:00:20] <Rolf> just glad I wasnt on bicycle that time :P

L596[20:00:32] <Rolf> it looked like a wall

L597[20:01:32] <Eddi|zuHause> ;wa arctan(50°)

L598[20:01:37] <kmath> Eddi|zuHause: tan^(-1)(50 °) = tan^(-1)((5 π)/18), (result in radians)

L599[20:01:49] <Eddi|zuHause> thanks, dude.

L600[20:02:31] <Rolf> lol now thats very clear

L601[20:03:09] <Eddi|zuHause> he's a true mathematician. the answer is both 100% correct and 100% useless

L602[20:03:21] <Rolf> reminds me of microsoft one

L603[20:03:59] <mabus> ;wa calories in cubic lightyear of mayonnaise

L604[20:04:03] <kmath> mabus: mayonnaise->amount->1 ly^3 (cubic light year)->total calories: 3.5×10^54 Cal (dietary Calories)

L605[20:04:24] <Rolf> that'd feed humanity for next billion years

L606[20:04:32] <mabus> thats all?

L607[20:04:43] <Eddi|zuHause> how many days worth of daily nutrition is that?

L608[20:05:04] <mabus> whats a normal daily intake, like 3k cals?

L609[20:05:20] <Rolf> times 8 billion

L610[20:05:29] <mabus> so like 1.15x10^51 mandays?

L611[20:05:49] <Eddi|zuHause> on the thingies they always say something like 2000, if you're an average height female that doesn't do sports...

L612[20:06:33] <mabus> The average American consumes more than 3,600 calories daily - a 24% increase from 1961, when the average was just 2,880 calories

L613[20:06:48] <Rolf> ;wa ( (calories in cubic ly)(3000 * 8000000000 )) / 365

L614[20:06:53] <kmath> Rolf: Wolfram couldn't understand your gibberish

L615[20:07:06] <Rolf> ;wa ( (calories in cubic ly)/(3000 * 8000000000 )) / 365

L616[20:07:11] <kmath> Rolf: Wolfram couldn't understand your gibberish

L617[20:07:13] <Eddi|zuHause> ;wa recommended daily nutrition

L618[20:07:15] <kmath> Eddi|zuHause: Wolfram couldn't understand your gibberish

L619[20:07:18] <mabus> ;wa ( (calories in cubic ly of mayonnaise)/(3000 * 8000000000 )) / 365

L620[20:07:23] <kmath> mabus: (mayonnaise->amount->1 ly^3 (cubic light year)->total calories/(3000×8000000000))/365: 4×10^38 Cal (dietary Calories)

L621[20:07:39] <Eddi|zuHause> ;wa calories per day

L622[20:07:41] <kmath> Eddi|zuHause: (cal_th (thermochemical calorie))/day: 4.843×10^-5 kg m^2/s^3 (kilogram meters squared per second cubed)

L623[20:08:01] <Rolf> ;wa 4x10^38 / 1000000

L624[20:08:02] <kmath> Rolf: (4×10^38)/1000000: 400000000000000000000000000000000

L625[20:08:04] <mabus> yeah thats not dietary calories

L626[20:08:12] <Rolf> thats how many ,illion years it would last

L627[20:08:15] <Eddi|zuHause> ;wa thermochemical calories to dietary calories

L628[20:08:17] <kmath> Eddi|zuHause: convert 1 cal_th (thermochemical calorie) to dietary Calories: 0.001 Cal (dietary Calories)

L629[20:08:22] <Rolf> ;wa 4x10^38 / 1000000000

L630[20:08:23] <kmath> Rolf: (4×10^38)/1000000000: 400000000000000000000000000000

L631[20:08:37] <Rolf> heh thats well past end of universe

L632[20:08:48] <mabus> assuming we can live an existence of billions of years of eating mayo

L633[20:08:55] <mabus> without giving up on life

L634[20:09:02] <Rolf> we would evolve into using mayo as ideal meal

L635[20:09:20] <Rolf> hmm curious heh

L636[20:09:36] <Eddi|zuHause> i'm sure if you only ate mayonnaise for the rest of the length of the universe, you'd get a ton of nutritional deficite problems

L637[20:09:48] <Rolf> ;wa calories in cubic lightyear of soylent

L638[20:09:53] <kmath> Rolf: Wolfram couldn't understand your gibberish

L639[20:10:05] <Rolf> guess it dont know soylent

L640[20:10:07] <Eddi|zuHause> and that's before you consider salmonella and other things that make mayonnaise go bad

L641[20:10:18] <mabus> salmonella doesnt grow in space duh

L642[20:10:25] <Eddi|zuHause> ;wa soylent green

L643[20:10:26] <mabus> checkmate

L644[20:10:29] <kmath> Eddi|zuHause: Soylent Green (movie): title->Soylent Green, director->Richard Fleischer, release date->May 9, 1973 (45 years 3 months ago), runtime->97 minutes (1 hour 37 minutes), writer->Harry Harrison, -- this crap is too long.

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L646[20:11:05] <Eddi|zuHause> ;wa calories in soylent green

L647[20:11:10] <kmath> Eddi|zuHause: Wolfram couldn't understand your gibberish

L648[20:11:12] <mabus> ;wa words in war and peace

L649[20:11:16] <kmath> mabus: Wolfram couldn't understand your gibberish

L650[20:11:34] <Eddi|zuHause> in which language?

L651[20:12:11] <Eddi|zuHause> ;wa length of war and peace

L652[20:12:15] <kmath> Eddi|zuHause: War & Peace (music album)->runtime: 38 minutes 50.21 seconds

L653[20:12:26] <Eddi|zuHause> err, sure

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L655[20:12:34] <Eddi|zuHause> that's what i meant

L656[20:13:39] <Eddi|zuHause> ;wa lense flares in star trek

L657[20:13:44] <kmath> Eddi|zuHause: Wolfram couldn't understand your gibberish

L658[20:14:06] <Eddi|zuHause> that would have been too easy :p

L659[20:14:33] <Eddi|zuHause> ;wa google energy consumption per day

L660[20:14:38] <kmath> Eddi|zuHause: Wolfram couldn't understand your gibberish

L661[20:14:50] <mabus> ;wa witch of agnesi

L662[20:14:51] <kmath> mabus: witch of Agnesi (plane curve):

L663[20:15:15] <mabus> ;wa apple vs orange

L664[20:15:20] <kmath> mabus: apple->amount->1 apple->orange->amount->1 orange: serving size 1 apple (182 g), total calories 91->fat calories 2, % daily value^*->, total fat 273 mg->0%, saturated fat 45 mg->0%, trans fat->, -- this crap is too long.

L665[20:15:40] <Eddi|zuHause> ;wa apple vs pc

L666[20:15:42] <kmath> Eddi|zuHause: Wolfram couldn't understand your gibberish

L667[20:15:45] <mabus> ;wa am i drunk

L668[20:15:46] <kmath> mabus: blood alcohol: number of drinks->2, time->1 hour, body weight->140 lb (pounds), gender->male

L669[20:16:52] <mabus> ;wa speed of unladen swallow

L670[20:16:54] <kmath> mabus: estimated average cruising airspeed of an unladen European swallow: 11 m/s (meters per second), (asked, but not answered, about a general swallow in the 1975 film Monty Python and the Holy Grail)

L671[20:17:39] <Rolf> fun

L672[20:17:53] <Eddi|zuHause> i always thought that the real joke in that scene is that he asks "european or african?" where swallows are migrating birds, so they travel between those two places

L673[20:19:17] <mabus> there are 47 species of african swallow

L674[20:19:58] <Rolf> have a ice car! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHtni5njdrQ

L675[20:19:58] <kmath> YouTube - ICE car: first drive

L676[20:20:43] <mabus> who are you going to deport first?

L677[20:25:30] <Epsilon> Ah-hah. That's why my plane wouldn't work. It was Jeb flying, not Valentina.

L678[20:26:10] <Eddi|zuHause> nothing good ever came out of jeb flying a thing :p

L679[20:30:10] <Rolf> lol

L680[20:32:49] <Epsilon> Hm. Maybe a bit heavy for a glider, but it's still under 1t.

L681[20:33:21] <Epsilon> Jet engines, and smaller gas tanks than some cars.

L682[20:35:32] <Epsilon> Alright. Let's see how this flies.

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L684[20:40:12] <Epsilon> ... surprisingly well, although it STILL has a bit too much engine power for its size...

L685[20:40:25] <Epsilon> SLT: 40.76.

L686[20:40:36] <Epsilon> Maybe "a bit" is an understatement. <_<

L687[20:40:59] <Eddi|zuHause> you can right-click on the engine and throttle down?

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L689[20:43:12] <Epsilon> I was actually just considering that.

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L691[20:43:31] <Epsilon> I'm trying to do the GAP contracts, and I have a hell of a time doing the barnstorming ones.

L692[20:43:50] <Epsilon> Something slow-but-agile seems to be right for those - it's just a matter of hitting that sweet spot.

L693[20:43:55] <Eddi|zuHause> no clue what that is

L694[20:44:03] <Epsilon> Giving Aircraft a Purpose.

L695[20:44:11] <Epsilon> It's cool if you like planes.

L696[20:44:20] <Eddi|zuHause> oh yeah, i think i tried that

L697[20:44:45] <Eddi|zuHause> but got stuck with every other mission being "ferry two crew to KSC island"

L698[20:45:33] <Epsilon> https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/129208-contract-pack-giving-aircraft-a-purpose-gap-14-beta-milestones-air-flights-coast-guard-march-17-2018/

L699[20:47:07] <Epsilon> I'd have played FSX a lot more if I could've made my own planes. :V

L700[20:47:30] <Epsilon> hm

L701[20:47:38] <Epsilon> What I -really- need is a small electric prop.

L702[20:47:55] <Eddi|zuHause> that's called a fan

L703[20:48:31] <Epsilon> ... I know you're being a little snarky there, but now I'm wondering if that actually exists in that junk parts pack. >_>

L704[20:50:46] <Epsilon> Huh. I can't find it. I could've sworn I had that last version...

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L706[20:56:52] <Eddi|zuHause> i had some problem when i started my last game that made me not include any of the contract packs

L707[20:57:17] <Eddi|zuHause> plus one of them added a nazi flag and i can't really support that kind of stuff

L708[20:57:44] <TheKosmonaut> What mod has a nazi flag

L709[20:57:51] * TheKosmonaut puts moderator pants on

L710[20:58:06] <Epsilon> Seriously? -_-

L711[20:58:08] <Eddi|zuHause> i believe it was some historic mission pack

L712[20:58:17] <Epsilon> ... ehhhhhhh

L713[20:58:19] <TheKosmonaut> Can you link to it please?

L714[20:58:30] <Eddi|zuHause> that was like a year ago...

L715[20:58:31] <TheKosmonaut> That's not kosher

L716[20:58:33] <TheKosmonaut> Oh

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L718[20:58:53] <TheKosmonaut> I am pretty sure we cracked down on a mod with swastika flags in it before

L719[20:58:57] <Rokker> TheKosmonaut: then why do we allow the USSR flag...

L720[20:58:57] <Epsilon> Unless it's literally a... what was it, the Komet? Me-161 or something? No excuse at all, and poor taste even if it -was- historical planes.

L721[20:59:18] <TheKosmonaut> Rokker: D O U B L E S T A N D A R D S

L722[21:00:23] <Rokker> Epsilon: Nazis happened, cant erase that no matter how many flags you get rid of

L723[21:00:30] <Rokker> but that might be too political

L724[21:00:47] <Eddi|zuHause> Rokker: doesn't mean you should put it into games

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L726[21:01:07] <Epsilon> My take on it is that stuff like that is what the iron cross is for. *shrug*

L727[21:01:20] <Rokker> not gonna take advice from a german on what should and shouldn't be allowed in video games, no offense, Eddi|zuHause

L728[21:01:27] *** Rokker was kicked by TheKosmonaut (Rokker))

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L730[21:02:00] <TheKosmonaut> Alright that's enough.

L731[21:02:03] <Epsilon> On a less touchy subject, why the crap is my plane sitting like this? -_-

L732[21:02:16] <Rokker> Epsilon: also it's Me 163

L733[21:02:21] <Rokker> or Me 262

L734[21:02:31] <Epsilon> No, it was the 163 I was thinking of.

L735[21:02:42] <Rokker> fat little plane

L736[21:02:46] <Epsilon> I knew it was 16-something.

L737[21:02:47] <Rokker> very explodey

L738[21:02:58] <Rokker> theres also the He 162

L739[21:03:02] <TheKosmonaut> Under the current rules, nazi flags are not allowed to be featured on the KSP forums, what you add in your own time is up to you, but you probably shouldn't post them to the forum. If there's a mod with such flags please report then to moderators.

L740[21:03:18] <TheKosmonaut> Thank you for being oppressed today, your cooperation is mandatory.

L741[21:04:08] <Epsilon> https://www.dropbox.com/s/11vlv8r6icnsjcc/Nosesitter.PNG?dl=0

L742[21:04:15] <Epsilon> I think it's something weird with my wheel scaling.

L743[21:04:19] <Eddi|zuHause> Rokker: what's wrong with replacing nazis with robots and red blood with green goo?

L744[21:04:42] <TheKosmonaut> Epsilon: Damn your kerbal must be fat

L745[21:04:58] <Epsilon> Note that the back wheels are actually off the ground. :P

L746[21:05:06] <Rokker> Eddi|zuHause: I was talking about south park stick of truth

L747[21:05:36] <Rokker> "oh an alien satellite dish pops out of his butt? cant allow that, too offensive"

L748[21:05:41] <Eddi|zuHause> Rokker: never played that

L749[21:05:52] <Rolf> still bigger than smallest plane ever built lol

L750[21:06:01] <Rolf> *i ever

L751[21:06:11] <TheKosmonaut> Rokker: did you see the screen cap I sent you of Ireland in EU4?

L752[21:06:15] <Epsilon> ... aaaaaand I tip over.

L753[21:06:22] <TheKosmonaut> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/udfT8S9H/Screen+Shot+2018-07-29+at+6.05.52+PM.png

L754[21:06:29] <TheKosmonaut> GLOREEYUS

L755[21:06:29] <Rokker> Epsilon: I remember a time when you didnt need contracts to give planes a purpose, or anything a purpose for that matter

L756[21:06:42] <Rokker> I remember when ksp was about creating your own purpose

L757[21:07:03] * Rokker squints

L758[21:07:10] <Rokker> that's not how england is spelled

L759[21:07:12] <TheKosmonaut> Says the guy with a contract company named after him

L760[21:07:25] <TheKosmonaut> Rokker: englalonde!

L761[21:07:27] <Eddi|zuHause> TheKosmonaut: that's a tiny bit on the detailed side?

L762[21:07:39] <Rokker> TheKosmonaut: I do?

L763[21:07:50] <TheKosmonaut> Eddi|zuHause: Germany / the HRE is made up of like 367 provinces

L764[21:07:57] <TheKosmonaut> It's borderline obsessive

L765[21:08:00] <Epsilon> You mean like this? https://www.dropbox.com/s/1ujekefldfhuc5i/screenshot0.png?dl=0

L766[21:08:01] <Epsilon> :V

L767[21:08:06] <Rokker> Eddi|zuHause: hes playing voltaires nightmare

L768[21:08:21] <Eddi|zuHause> Rokker: there's an achievement for that

L769[21:08:24] <TheKosmonaut> Rokker: France is basically another HRE, which is cool

L770[21:08:33] <Eddi|zuHause> Rokker: like "make the HRE have more than 75 members"

L771[21:08:56] <Eddi|zuHause> TheKosmonaut: does that mod have a name?

L772[21:09:08] <TheKosmonaut> Rokker: Austria is Austria and Styria

L773[21:09:09] <TheKosmonaut> Eddi|zuHause: yeah. Voltaire's Nightmare

L774[21:09:11] <Rokker> Eddi|zuHause: I mean I remember when ksp was like that but I was more thinking of the hayday when you had mods like... something

L775[21:09:18] <Rokker> Eddi|zuHause: I just told you dammit

L776[21:09:26] <TheKosmonaut> Rokker: Rokkea is named after you I thought.

L777[21:09:34] <Rokker> TheKosmonaut: prolly not

L778[21:09:52] <Rokker> I did help what's his name out with stuff that made it into the game tho

L779[21:10:00] <Epsilon> I mean, I get making your own purpose in KSP, but I like having some structure around the gameplay, mostly because it actually -does- get boring otherwise.

L780[21:10:04] <Eddi|zuHause> last time i played i tried to get some of the new stupid achievemnts

L781[21:10:05] <Epsilon> Because I've basically done everything I want to.

L782[21:10:14] <Rokker> the contract code i helped out with

L783[21:10:17] <Eddi|zuHause> like "own the provinces of Haha, Hehe and Lolland"

L784[21:10:21] <Rokker> the orbital mech part

L785[21:10:23] <Rokker> not much

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L787[21:12:16] <Epsilon> ffffffff

L788[21:12:19] <Epsilon> stupid mirroring

L789[21:12:19] <Eddi|zuHause> i was playing as congo, but got a bit stuck because all the people i could reasonably expand into were sunni, and the ammassment of aggressive expansion got too crazy i was fighting coalitions with ottomans and QQ all the time

L790[21:13:50] <Rokker> Eddi|zuHause: I thought about kongo but I heard it's awful to get around the small expandable area and the tech penalty

L791[21:13:58] <Rokker> playing timbuktu was bad enough

L792[21:14:24] <Eddi|zuHause> tech penalty is easy to get around, just develop a province to 37-ish

L793[21:14:51] <TheKosmonaut> Rokker: you suck at African countries because you're just bad at the game

L794[21:14:53] <umaxtu_mobile> So my Comcast just died

L795[21:15:03] <TheKosmonaut> Unless it is Ethiopia

L796[21:15:09] <TheKosmonaut> umaxtu_mobile: f

L797[21:15:12] <Rokker> no u

L798[21:15:13] <Eddi|zuHause> and for expanding into unconnected territory, just vassalize one dude over there

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L800[21:15:41] <Eddi|zuHause> then you can freely expand

L801[21:15:48] <ConductorCat> :3

L802[21:15:53] <TheKosmonaut> Colonial ideas, put a colony down, get a claim, abandon colony

L803[21:16:01] <umaxtu_mobile> What pdx game?

L804[21:16:05] <Eddi|zuHause> i got to east africa that way

L805[21:16:22] <Eddi|zuHause> i didn't even need a claim

L806[21:16:38] <Eddi|zuHause> i think someone was allied with someone i attacked

L807[21:17:00] <Rokker> umaxtu_mobile: eu4

L808[21:17:01] <Eddi|zuHause> i got colonial ideas anyway, to claim some coast before the europeans did

L809[21:18:07] <Eddi|zuHause> however the portuguese were a bit too quick so i didn't get the gold coast province with the bonus trade

L810[21:18:13] <TheKosmonaut> Rokker: if I can't hack it in VN Im gonna go back to vanilla and play as Maguindanao

L811[21:18:21] <TheKosmonaut> PILIPINAS STRONK

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L813[21:19:02] <TheKosmonaut> Rokker: get Voltaire's nightmare and play as Saxony

L814[21:19:11] <Rokker> no

L815[21:19:13] <TheKosmonaut> Though I heard that revoking privilegia in this mod may crash your comp

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L817[21:19:17] <Rokker> only war thunder now

L818[21:19:22] <TheKosmonaut> Rokker: tell me

L819[21:19:23] <Rokker> no other game

L820[21:19:24] <Eddi|zuHause> i played as saxony in vanilla a while back

L821[21:19:28] <TheKosmonaut> When did you become a lower

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L823[21:19:33] <TheKosmonaut> Loser

L824[21:19:35] <Rokker> ur mom

L825[21:19:40] <TheKosmonaut> No u

L826[21:20:00] <TheKosmonaut> Eddi|zuHause: I managed to play as Brandenburg and get like halfway through the reforms

L827[21:20:18] <TheKosmonaut> Rokker: you can be hussite in VN

L828[21:20:42] <Eddi|zuHause> saxony was my first proper game as a noob, actually

L829[21:20:53] <Rokker> mine was denmark

L830[21:21:01] <Rokker> which was both a good and bad idea

L831[21:21:17] <TheKosmonaut> Ethiopia was my first good game that I played until like 1800

L832[21:21:22] <Eddi|zuHause> my second try as saxony went as far as becoming emperor

L833[21:21:33] <Rokker> ugh

L834[21:21:40] <Rokker> I became emperor as bohemia

L835[21:21:41] <Eddi|zuHause> then everything went to shit because i kept losing against venice+france alliance

L836[21:21:44] <Rokker> awful idea

L837[21:21:46] <Rokker> awful

L838[21:21:51] <Rokker> worst idea ever

L839[21:21:56] <TheKosmonaut> Rokker: Bohemia is lame

L840[21:22:00] <Rokker> cause my king wasnt germanic

L841[21:22:07] <TheKosmonaut> My PLC game got pretty far.

L842[21:22:07] <Rokker> and then I kept getting reelected

L843[21:22:12] <umaxtu> looks like its back

L844[21:22:15] <Rokker> literally couldn't pass anything

L845[21:22:21] <Eddi|zuHause> the third time and 1900 hours into the game later, i actually managed to conquer the world as saxony

L846[21:22:23] <umaxtu> whether or not it stays that way...

L847[21:22:24] <Rokker> umaxtu: boooo

L848[21:22:28] <TheKosmonaut> I managed to take everything up to the Rhine

L849[21:23:09] <TheKosmonaut> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/hph0BVjW/PLC+Empire.png

L850[21:23:29] <TheKosmonaut> I guess I went further than I thought

L851[21:23:32] <Rokker> I want to make england Danish again

L852[21:24:35] <TheKosmonaut> I made Ottoman go into like 5k+ in debt

L853[21:24:42] <TheKosmonaut> Kept stack wiping his mercs

L854[21:25:19] <Eddi|zuHause> how are your ottomans not massive?

L855[21:26:03] <TheKosmonaut> Eddi|zuHause: I was allied with Austria, France, and Spain in the league wars, and we maintained that alliance.

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L857[21:26:11] <Rokker> Eddi|zuHause: ottomans are easy to beat if you do it right

L858[21:26:14] <TheKosmonaut> Then declared on Ottomans and I demanded they release nations

L859[21:26:39] <TheKosmonaut> They even released Byzantium

L860[21:26:47] <TheKosmonaut> It took several wars

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L862[21:27:23] <TheKosmonaut> I can't stand how easily the AI is willing to go into debt. It's insane.

L863[21:27:40] <TheKosmonaut> The Ottomans entire military were mercenaries

L864[21:27:54] <umaxtu> TheKosmonaut, have you seen the real world?

L865[21:28:09] <Rokker> TheKosmonaut: I just realized something

L866[21:28:15] <Rokker> my mouse has 12 buttons

L867[21:28:22] <Eddi|zuHause> as kongo i avoided mercenaries so far

L868[21:28:36] <Rokker> TheKosmonaut: I can macro all the tabs to my mouse

L869[21:28:46] <TheKosmonaut> Mercenaries aren't the end of the world, some nations make them all viable options. Ming for example.

L870[21:28:52] <Rokker> maximum efficiency

L871[21:29:02] <TheKosmonaut> But Ottomans literally lost like 2m in mercenaries

L872[21:29:02] <Rokker> M A X I M U M

L873[21:29:12] <TheKosmonaut> Where the heck were they getting them from?

L874[21:29:41] <umaxtu> Rokker, if you want maximum efficiency, you need buttons for your feet

L875[21:29:55] <Eddi|zuHause> my saxony game was a bit weird. i went humanistic ideas, but didn't convert, then practically everyone in the empire went protestant, except austria and the theocraties. so they ousted me as emperor and elected the austrian

L876[21:29:56] <Rokker> umaxtu: foot keyboard?

L877[21:30:09] <Eddi|zuHause> at that point i immediately switched to protestant and declared league war

L878[21:30:20] <TheKosmonaut> They just kept trying to send them through my marches too. Wallachia and Bulgaria were forted up something fierce.

L879[21:30:23] <Eddi|zuHause> with the ottomans on the protestant side, and france neutral

L880[21:30:44] <umaxtu> and a button or two for each knee

L881[21:31:00] <TheKosmonaut> My PLC was reformed. Haha

L882[21:31:05] <Eddi|zuHause> well, "immediately" as in, i waited 5 years for my broken alliance with austria to expire

L883[21:31:30] <Rokker> Eddi|zuHause: I did well as byzantium by just capping their only way across the straits and then holding it hostage with my full navy

L884[21:31:38] <Rokker> then bit by bit I took land

L885[21:31:57] <TheKosmonaut> EMPIRE OF THE ROMANS

L886[21:32:13] <Rokker> took on the 20k troops they had in my land and placed out taking back that crossing land

L887[21:32:16] <TheKosmonaut> Rokker: i still haven't attempted mare nostrum

L888[21:32:21] <Rokker> they were no longer allowed in

L889[21:32:56] <Eddi|zuHause> i tried byzantium once. managed to hold out the first war against ottomans with like 6 small allies, but didn't gain any territory

L890[21:33:13] <Eddi|zuHause> then for the next war they broke off my allies and stomped me

L891[21:33:16] <Rokker> TheKosmonaut: I hate how 2k is too high def to play eu4

L892[21:33:52] <TheKosmonaut> The Ottomans are quite vulnerable at the very start. If you're quick then fighting them isn't so hard. I've seen AI Byzantium a couple of times.

L893[21:34:28] <Eddi|zuHause> i guess it's harder to block the strait now with the new rule that you can't block when it owns both sides

L894[21:34:40] <TheKosmonaut> Dumb rule.

L895[21:34:53] <Eddi|zuHause> i think i like that rule

L896[21:35:16] <TheKosmonaut> It should be thst you just take massive attrition

L897[21:35:24] <Rolf> ;wa 88f to c

L898[21:35:26] <kmath> Rolf: convert 88 °F (degrees Fahrenheit) to degrees Celsius: 31.11 °C (degrees Celsius)

L899[21:35:31] <TheKosmonaut> If you attempt crossing a blockaded strait

L900[21:36:53] <UmbralRaptop> TFW you get deep into a Zachtronics game, and notice that none of your steam friends have high scores to compete with.

L901[21:37:31] <KrazyKrl> because most people on steam have 2000 games to play through.

L902[21:37:48] <Eddi|zuHause> i'd dispute that statement

L903[21:38:28] <UmbralRaptop> KrazyKrl: no, no. They do for the earlier puzzles.

L904[21:39:01] <KrazyKrl> zachtronics games certainly have a unique appeal.

L905[21:39:06] <Eddi|zuHause> i have like 80 hours in space chem and don't even know why

L906[21:39:29] <umaxtu> i've got spacechem, never played it

L907[21:39:46] <Rokker> TheKosmonaut: orthodox can PU right?

L908[21:39:51] <Rokker> umaxtu: its fun

L909[21:39:53] <Eddi|zuHause> it starts so innocently, and then it goes crazy

L910[21:39:53] <Rokker> play it

L911[21:39:55] <UmbralRaptop> umaxtu: you should try it.

L912[21:40:01] <TheKosmonaut> I think so?

L913[21:40:26] <Eddi|zuHause> i'm pretty sure any christian can PU

L914[21:40:31] <TheKosmonaut> SpaceChem sounds like a drug you'd get on Mars

L915[21:41:24] <UmbralRaptop> I think in a few cases you make drugs? Though it's mostly industrial chemicals.

L916[21:41:32] <Eddi|zuHause> but i haven't really figured out how to force PUs

L917[21:41:51] <Eddi|zuHause> i randomly got one as saxony for no reason

L918[21:42:26] <umaxtu> the only pdx game I feel mostly comfortable with is Stellaris

L919[21:42:32] <Eddi|zuHause> was one of the theocraties i converted during the league war, that secularized

L920[21:42:49] <Rokker> TheKosmonaut: imereti is as good as mine then

L921[21:42:50] <Eddi|zuHause> then their ruler died pretty quickly and i got union

L922[21:43:19] <TheKosmonaut> Rokker: yeah you can get PU with any of the Christian faiths. Even if you're protestant and the JP is orthodox or even corticosteroids

L923[21:43:21] <TheKosmonaut> ....

L924[21:43:23] <TheKosmonaut> What

L925[21:43:25] <TheKosmonaut> Coptic

L926[21:43:27] <Eddi|zuHause> the funniest part about that was, i awarded them elector status immediately before that

L927[21:44:09] <Eddi|zuHause> so i was elector myself, and had an elector union partner

L928[21:44:35] <Epsilon> Eddi|zuHause: Spacechem was kinda fun, but I couldn't handle the eyestrain from not being able to resize the window. >_<

L929[21:44:59] <Eddi|zuHause> uhm, it has window size options?

L930[21:45:22] <Epsilon> ... let me double check, but I'd swear I couldn't get it past something ancient like 1024x768.

L931[21:45:25] <TheKosmonaut> Eddi|zuHause: the others probably wouldn't vote for you though right?

L932[21:45:42] <Eddi|zuHause> they got a bit of a penalty, but most of them loved me

L933[21:45:46] <TheKosmonaut> Usually if you control a voter, that means the others get -25 or -50 reasons to vote

L934[21:45:54] <TheKosmonaut> I can't remember how much it is

L935[21:45:58] <Eddi|zuHause> -50

L936[21:46:09] <Eddi|zuHause> but you get +200 from good relations

L937[21:46:27] <TheKosmonaut> Diplomatic reputation advisors help too

L938[21:46:31] <Eddi|zuHause> and all the "bad" electors got eleminated in the league war

L939[21:46:56] <Eddi|zuHause> i had diplorep from influence ideas, and saxony gets innate diplorep

L940[21:47:04] <Epsilon> Eddi|zuHause: Nope, not at a brief look. I know there was some way to tweak the config, but it didn't work right.

L941[21:47:10] <Epsilon> TIS-100 was cool though.

L942[21:47:58] <TheKosmonaut> Rokker: apparently you can make the HRE orthodox too

L943[21:48:07] * TheKosmonaut writes that down for the next run

L944[21:48:14] <TheKosmonaut> THIRD ROME INTENSIFIES

L945[21:48:29] <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, you have to force the league war to drag on

L946[21:48:42] <Eddi|zuHause> so it ends in a draw

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L948[21:49:46] <Eddi|zuHause> after that, emperor can be any christian religion

L949[21:50:25] <Rokker> TheKosmonaut: I'm very conflicted right now on if I should declare on ottomans right now

L950[21:50:34] <Rokker> while most ld their military is on crimea

L951[21:50:41] <Rokker> most of

L952[21:50:56] <Rokker> if it goes wrong tho, I'm dead

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L954[21:53:16] <ConductorCat> Corticosteroid Pope

L955[21:53:30] <Eddi|zuHause> what's bad about my congo game is that every single european power i ment immediately declared me as rival

L956[21:53:47] <Rokker> I need advice

L957[21:54:00] <ConductorCat> Advice is illegal.

L958[21:54:05] <Eddi|zuHause> so i have no useful allies against ottomans

L959[21:54:07] <Rolf> illegal is illegal

L960[21:54:13] <Rokker> I can basically end the ottoman rule of the Balkans here and now

L961[21:54:19] <Rokker> if I win

L962[21:55:49] <oren> https://imgur.com/QkqcbUW

L963[21:55:49] <kmath> https://i.imgur.com/QkqcbUW.jpg

L964[21:56:08] <oren> my stupid spaceplane has proven versatile at landing

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L966[21:56:23] <Rokker> if I dont I'm dead

L967[21:56:45] <Epsilon> Stupid rescale not making these contracts trigger. >:(

L968[21:57:31] <oren> Rokker: when in doubt, beat the ottomans

L969[21:59:52] <Rokker> well crap

L970[21:59:58] <Rokker> immediately went to crap

L971[22:00:30] <Rokker> peace with Crimea, giving them exiled troops able to pass through any country

L972[22:00:59] <Rokker> instaded

L973[22:01:34] <Rokker> refresh

L974[22:02:14] <Eddi|zuHause> the trick with being the smaller/defensive side of the war is to drag it out

L975[22:02:24] <Eddi|zuHause> try to avoid direct confrontation

L976[22:02:54] <Eddi|zuHause> or be quicker at sieging their stuff than they are sieging yours

L977[22:05:25] <Eddi|zuHause> like, as congo i won the last war against ottomans, even though they had twice the army strength and were ahead in miltech

L978[22:05:41] <Eddi|zuHause> by just sieging the smaller members of the coalition

L979[22:06:28] <Eddi|zuHause> well, it helped that they were fighting another war

L980[22:06:45] <Eddi|zuHause> but so was i :p

L981[22:11:17] <Rokker> TheKosmonaut: the king of imereti is 63 with no heir

L982[22:11:28] <Rokker> and I'm married to him

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L984[22:14:08] <Rokker> TheKosmonaut: this will provide a fine distraction for the turks

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L987[22:27:33] <Rokker> mamluks declared on ottomans

L988[22:27:38] <Rokker> here is my chance

L989[22:30:40] <Rokker> Hungary is willing to accept if I wait until january

L990[22:31:51] <Rokker> hmmm no land border between mamluks and turks

L991[22:46:25] <TheKosmonaut> Rokker: what's between them?

L992[22:46:47] <TheKosmonaut> AT?

L993[22:46:51] <TheKosmonaut> AQ*

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L995[22:53:02] <Rokker> TheKosmonaut: nvm, they got through

L996[22:53:08] <Rokker> this is glorious

L997[22:53:13] <Rokker> TheKosmonaut: GLORIOUS

L998[22:55:25] <Rokker> TheKosmonaut: ottoman army screen on ledger

L999[22:55:31] <Rokker> Total: 0

L1000[22:55:43] <TheKosmonaut> Rokker: It means NOTHING

L1001[22:55:58] <TheKosmonaut> I've seen them there and then a 76 stack of mercs come rolling to me

L1002[22:56:08] <TheKosmonaut> They will take massive loans

L1003[22:56:31] <Rokker> TheKosmonaut: treasury 167

L1004[22:56:44] <TheKosmonaut> Rokker: pause

L1005[22:56:45] <Rokker> all of anatolia is mamlukian

L1006[22:56:55] <TheKosmonaut> ~ tag TUR

L1007[22:57:01] <Rokker> most of the Balkans are mine and hungary

L1008[22:57:09] <TheKosmonaut> See exactly what their finances are

L1009[22:57:15] <Rokker> TheKosmonaut: I'm playing iron fist dummy

L1010[22:57:18] <Rokker> I've won

L1011[22:57:20] <Rokker> that simple

L1012[22:57:21] <TheKosmonaut> Nice

L1013[22:57:30] <TheKosmonaut> Wait are you Byzantium?

L1014[22:57:30] <Rokker> edirne is mine

L1015[22:57:33] <Rokker> yes

L1016[22:57:46] <TheKosmonaut> Oh you just started

L1017[22:57:53] <TheKosmonaut> Yeah you got it then.

L1018[22:58:02] <oren> Rokker: for some reason I assumed you were serbia

L1019[22:58:16] <TheKosmonaut> Mamlukes will be a terrible headache down the road

L1020[22:59:09] <Rokker> oren: I'm the OG kebab remover

L1021[22:59:18] <TheKosmonaut> Rokker: I wanna form Romania and build Mare Nostrum Romanian empire

L1022[22:59:19] <Rokker> oren: serbia would be much harder

L1023[22:59:42] <TheKosmonaut> Albania is the hardest

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L1026[23:02:02] <Rokker> TheKosmonaut: oh god, the rebels

L1027[23:02:05] <Rokker> so many rebels

L1028[23:02:28] <Rokker> TheKosmonaut: what's the peasant to soldier ratio?

L1029[23:02:33] <Rokker> to kill em

L1030[23:02:53] <TheKosmonaut> I've done as much as 2-1. But i dunno.

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L1032[23:03:32] <Rokker> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/2gX8YEgy/RokkersKebabRemovalService

L1033[23:03:44] <Rokker> TheKosmonaut: byzantine stronk

L1034[23:05:09] <Rokker> TheKosmonaut: decided to end the war instead

L1035[23:06:04] <TheKosmonaut> Bordergore

L1036[23:06:23] <Rokker> TheKosmonaut: and the ottomans cant reach the rebels

L1037[23:06:28] <Rokker> 10/10

L1038[23:06:31] <TheKosmonaut> At least take tirhala

L1039[23:06:37] <TheKosmonaut> Then you get an estuary

L1040[23:06:40] <TheKosmonaut> I think

L1041[23:06:40] <Rokker> TheKosmonaut: the ottoman empire is bordergore

L1042[23:06:53] <Rokker> next war

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L1044[23:07:21] <oren> https://imgur.com/ZaK62GS

L1045[23:07:21] <kmath> https://i.imgur.com/ZaK62GS.jpg

L1046[23:07:31] <TheKosmonaut> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/AONkf6bz/Screen+Shot+2018-07-28+at+3.37.59+PM.png

L1047[23:07:38] <TheKosmonaut> Best bordergore

L1048[23:07:59] <oren> https://imgur.com/vLDv2gL

L1049[23:08:00] <kmath> https://i.imgur.com/vLDv2gL.jpg

L1050[23:08:28] <TheKosmonaut> oren: he's seen... Things

L1051[23:08:32] <TheKosmonaut> Things you wouldn't believe

L1052[23:08:36] <oren> GUYS APPARENTLY if you aerobrake hard enough the flames go inside the capsule

L1053[23:09:36] <Rokker> TheKosmonaut: oh my god

L1054[23:09:49] <Rokker> ottomans are so weak that wallachia just declared on them

L1055[23:09:57] <TheKosmonaut> Rokker: ayy

L1056[23:09:59] <Rokker> wallachia stronl

L1057[23:10:01] <Rokker> stronk

L1058[23:10:10] <TheKosmonaut> oren: you may have a compromised capsule

L1059[23:10:19] <TheKosmonaut> Rokker: DRACULA RISING

L1060[23:13:43] <oren> https://imgur.com/ZHv15Ii

L1061[23:13:44] <kmath> https://i.imgur.com/ZHv15Ii.jpg

L1062[23:16:22] <Supercheese> Serious Byzness

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L1065[23:23:17] <Rokker> Albania declared on the turks

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L1070[23:40:17] <Rokker> TheKosmonaut: oh... oh dear

L1071[23:40:20] <Rokker> oh no

L1072[23:40:44] <Rokker> TheKosmonaut: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/BmKZToCK/the%20real%20border%20gore

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L1074[23:43:43] <oren> Rokker: GENOA NOOOOOOOO

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L1076[23:57:22] <oren> gah. I specifically timed this mun flyby so that the spacecraft would be in sun and could see kerbin

L1077[23:57:35] <Althego> eclipse<

L1078[23:57:38] <Althego> ?

L1079[23:57:42] <oren> yup

L1080[23:57:45] <oren> gah

L1081[23:57:48] <Althego> hehe

L1082[23:58:02] <oren> https://imgur.com/srmyYf9

L1083[23:58:02] <kmath> https://i.imgur.com/srmyYf9.png

L1084[23:58:18] <oren> well, I packed enough capacitors

L1085[23:59:07] <Althego> the capacitor is empty. you are unable to warp because you are warp scrambled