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L3[00:04:55] <TransitBiker> nice
L4[00:05:10] <Althego> no, i am back, got back my superpower with a boost. infinite mobile net!
L5[00:05:12] <UmbralRaptor> Is unsure quite what JCB means, so I'll suggest Python.
L6[00:05:22] <TransitBiker> haha
L7[00:05:41] <TransitBiker> mhm python
L8[00:06:04] <Althego> scott made a video on proton
L9[00:06:04] <TransitBiker> bbl ^-^
L10[00:06:09] <TransitBiker> oh?
L11[00:06:26] <Althego> because of its removal from service
L12[00:06:33] <TransitBiker> tucking in me lady, will look afterward
L13[00:06:40] <TransitBiker> bbl ^-^
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L16[00:07:42] <JCB> Transit was talking about coding... I've been trying to find something light weight to get into to test some ideas out.
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L18[00:08:03] <JCB> Althego Ya.. I saw that video too..
L19[00:08:10] <Althego> i didnt get to it yet
L20[00:08:23] <Althego> i linked an article about the fact yesterday, but then there was no scott vide
L21[00:08:31] <JCB> some references to KSP... mostly in the design ideas
L22[00:08:36] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TF6GRPaeLbk
L23[00:08:37] <kmath> YouTube - How Asteroid Mining Will Save Earth | Space Time
L24[00:11:30] <UmbralRaptor> The Proton is not a very kerbal rocket. 0 boosters?
L25[00:11:39] <Althego> hypergolic
L26[00:11:43] <Althego> kerbal enough for me
L27[00:11:59] <Althego> no real reason to use that as first stage
L28[00:12:14] <UmbralRaptor> Titan IV, though.
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L30[00:18:03] <JCB> original idea was common parts, they'd just put together build the rocket
L31[00:18:28] <JCB> had limitations on sizes, hence why not boosters, those are bolted on, stay on the whole launch.
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L59[04:17:37] <GlassYuri> I just had four helicopters fly over my house
L60[04:18:23] <GlassYuri> looked like ground SDF camo, possibly OH-1s
L61[04:26:22] <Althego> this sounded like you made them flay over ther
L62[04:26:28] <Althego> and i cant write
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L64[04:30:47] <TheKosmonaut> GlassYuri: where do you stay again?
L65[04:31:04] <GlassYuri> TheKosmonaut, suginami
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L75[06:36:17] <ve2dmn> SGDQ at 725k
L76[06:43:07] <ve2dmn> I made it to work... 2h early
L77[06:43:19] <ve2dmn> I'll just leave earlier
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L82[07:30:50] <TheKosmonaut> ve2dmn: I mean... 30 minutes early I can get
L83[07:30:58] <TheKosmonaut> but how did you arrive 2h early?
L84[07:32:49] <ve2dmn> Went to bed at 20:30 last night
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L86[07:33:42] <ve2dmn> Also, so tired that I posted this earlier message in the wrong chat
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L94[08:26:57] <ve2dmn> TIL that Humidex != Heat index
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L97[08:31:07] <Deddly> Never heard of Humidex but that sounds more related to humidity than heat
L98[08:32:30] <ve2dmn> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humidex vs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_index
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L100[08:33:08] <ve2dmn> both are 'feel like' measure of temperature in high humidity
L101[08:34:16] <ve2dmn> Like, This Sunday, the forecast is a Humidex of 44 (33C with 70%+ humidity)
L102[08:35:08] <Deddly> So basically a "feels like" temperature
L103[08:35:57] <ve2dmn> Yes... but the US and Canada uses differetn formulas
L104[08:36:03] <Deddly> I see
L105[08:36:15] <Deddly> Do either of them include wind chill?
L106[08:36:20] <ve2dmn> no
L107[08:36:29] <Deddly> So we also need a chillex
L108[08:36:44] <ve2dmn> or a Windex
L109[08:37:06] <Deddly> A humichillex
L110[08:39:05] <ve2dmn> Most TV channels have their own formulas for the 'feel like' thingy
L111[08:39:22] <ve2dmn> But I'm use to Humidex in the summer and Wind chill in the winter
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L113[08:44:26] <Deddly> Yeah I like to chillex in the winter, too
L114[08:45:43] <ve2dmn> Today is International Caps Locks day: It's the day we ignore that key completely. Thank you for respecting this tradition
L115[08:57:28] <Deddly> WHAT A WONDERFUL IDEA
L116[08:57:54] <ve2dmn> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caps_lock#International_Caps_Lock_Day
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L136[10:26:40] <Althego> it's business time in 16 days
L137[10:26:53] <Althego> i swear they are just teasin and dont even want to launch
L138[10:27:23] <ve2dmn> ...
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L141[10:37:51] <ve2dmn> https://spaceflightnow.com/2018/06/27/rocket-labs-first-commercial-launch-scrubbed-again/
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L143[10:39:44] <ve2dmn> basically, they have issues with a controller and scrub the whole thing for now
L144[10:40:12] <ve2dmn> So the first commercial launch of Electron is, again, delayed
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L198[12:23:15] <Eddi|zuHause> if that's not kerbal then i don't know anymore https://mobile.twitter.com/harmenbakker/status/1011758202692784130
L199[12:23:16] <kmath> https://twitter.com/harmenbakker/status/1011758202692784130 <harmenbakker> @WesselSchinkel @OffensiveDr Het bewegende beeld Wessel https://t.co/UOUMo8Ewr9
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L204[12:39:25] <APlayer> Eddi: Uh, language in the video...
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L206[12:41:05] <Eddi|zuHause> what? that's perfectly normal german
L207[12:41:45] <APlayer> Come on ;-)
L208[12:45:32] <ve2dmn> what happened?
L209[12:45:42] <Eddi|zuHause> i've seen plenty of american tv shows that didn't beep out foreign language swear words :p
L210[12:45:59] <Eddi|zuHause> ve2dmn: apparently they tried to fire a missile, and it... backfired
L211[12:46:24] <ve2dmn> Someone Set us up the bomb!
L212[12:46:34] <APlayer> Eddi: Well, this is a definitive profanity, and my duty is to beep them out retroactively, so...
L213[12:51:30] <Eddi|zuHause> APlayer: i'm sorry, i don't have a device that can censor other people's speech because of oversensitive cultural differences, that is also completely besides the point of the video
L214[12:52:50] <APlayer> Hey, I'm not accusing you of anything, and nothing bad happened. I just ask you to watch the links you send here more closely and try to avoid ones that might not be family friendly, in any language
L215[12:54:22] <ve2dmn> Eddi|zuHause: APlayer is just doing the job APlayer was hired for
L216[12:55:24] <APlayer> "Hired" as in, "Hey, we need some help over here. You guy got some time?"
L217[12:57:10] <Fluburtur> btw APlayer, anything new with the quadcopter?
L218[12:59:00] <APlayer> Fluburtur: The thing I showed you so far was a prototype. That phase of the project is finished, a report was written and we now moved on to work on the extended version. That is, we soldered and tested a remote control, successfully got the individual components (Raspberry Pi, Camera, RF transceivers, ...) to work, and are currently working on the layout of the quad itself
L219[12:59:20] <Fluburtur> nice
L220[13:00:42] <APlayer> Having a bit of trouble with that. We tried to use mathematics (tm) on it, but when we tried to move the components in place as calculated, we ended up with clipped stuff and basically the battery on one side, and everything else on the other side of the quad
L221[13:01:31] <APlayer> The battery is just too heavy to comfortably move it away from the center, but the closer it is to the center, the closer the power supply parts with large currents are to the magnetometer
L222[13:01:51] <Fluburtur> put the battery under the quad
L223[13:02:10] <APlayer> That'd end up serving as a landing leg, then
L224[13:02:23] <APlayer> I'd rather put the magnetometer under it
L225[13:02:25] <Fluburtur> don't land hard then
L226[13:02:31] <Fluburtur> or use little sticks as legs
L227[13:02:49] <APlayer> We do use sticks, but they protrude only minimally, to save on weight
L228[13:06:50] <APlayer> Fluburtur: From experience, how close can a 20 Amp battery be to a magnetometer to still have reasonable readings?
L229[13:07:13] <Fluburtur> idk
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L239[13:54:37] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/236560222133551104/461967653184077825/20180628205325_1.jpg
L240[14:02:33] <Mat2ch> oh, Fluburtur, today I saw wood insulation foam
L241[14:02:41] <Fluburtur> apparently glow in the dark tattoos are a thing
L242[14:02:54] <Fluburtur> oh good
L243[14:02:57] <Fluburtur> would it work?
L244[14:02:58] <Mat2ch> and I wonder how good it could be used to make planes with it
L245[14:03:05] <Mat2ch> I'm not sure
L246[14:03:18] <Mat2ch> it will be much harder to cut it
L247[14:03:51] <Mat2ch> maybe it's better to find out how it's made and use the raw materials in a mold?
L248[14:04:03] <Eddi|zuHause> now something that can't possibly violate any language rules https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIz3klPET3o
L249[14:04:03] <Fluburtur> expanded foam is very hard to make
L250[14:04:03] <kmath> YouTube - Line Rider - Mountain King
L251[14:04:11] <Fluburtur> you need special machinery
L252[14:04:54] <Fluburtur> otherwise I would use than instead of trying to make planes with fiberglass
L253[14:05:08] <Fluburtur> but who knows, maybe my business will run and I will be able to affrod machinery to make foam models
L254[14:07:32] <APlayer> Eddi: This violates the "Too much grey color in video" rule, which means that you will be, from now on, permanently banned. Do you have anything to say in your defence?
L255[14:07:41] <ve2dmn> colour*
L256[14:07:44] <ve2dmn> :D
L257[14:07:45] <Fluburtur> lmao
L258[14:07:47] <ve2dmn> sorry
L259[14:08:00] <APlayer> ve2dmn: British English vs American English
L260[14:08:20] <APlayer> Color is American and Programmer English ;-)
L261[14:08:42] <ve2dmn> "Do you have anything to say in your defence?" "It's 'grey' and 'colour' your honour"
L262[14:08:57] <Althego> hehe
L263[14:09:04] <Althego> i gave up that fight
L264[14:09:14] <Althego> the majority of english i meet is american
L265[14:09:21] <ve2dmn> I just wanted to humour APlayer
L266[14:09:49] <APlayer> ve2dmn: If there is an actual mistake in the language, please do, because I did not fully understand yet, and I sure do want to
L267[14:09:51] <Althego> that video reminds me of elastomania
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L269[14:10:12] <ve2dmn> I'm just teasing!
L270[14:10:22] <Althego> just as rocketlabs
L271[14:10:29] <ve2dmn> lmao
L272[14:11:00] <Fluburtur> I speak french english
L273[14:11:07] <Althego> hehe
L274[14:11:55] <ve2dmn> Fluburtur: it is Ze obivious
L275[14:12:16] <Fluburtur> how to speak french english: hard R
L276[14:12:24] <Fluburtur> that's also how you speak regular french
L277[14:12:31] <Fluburtur> and ignore half the letters of words
L278[14:12:46] <ve2dmn> I never manage to get the 'ze' out of my old boss. He could says everything else correctly, but the 'th' elluded him completely
L279[14:13:21] <Althego> hehe
L280[14:13:31] <Althego> i cant say it correctly either
L281[14:13:38] <ve2dmn> It annoyed me to no end...
L282[14:14:19] <Eddi|zuHause> my accent is horrible...
L283[14:14:34] <Althego> what are you thinking avout :)
L284[14:14:34] <Eddi|zuHause> because i only type in english, i hardly ever speak it
L285[14:14:35] <APlayer> ve2dmn: In that case, you are hereby sentenced to serve for the channel overlords eternally. No appeals.
L286[14:14:52] <Eddi|zuHause> Althego: exactly...
L287[14:15:17] <APlayer> Althego: What are you sinking about, more like ;-)
L288[14:15:29] <ve2dmn> Nooooooooo!!!!11!!1!one!!!eleven!1
L289[14:15:37] <Althego> hehe hammond is a hamster
L290[14:15:39] <Eddi|zuHause> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmOTpIVxji8
L291[14:15:39] <kmath> YouTube - German Coastguard Sinking - Learn English Commercial
L292[14:15:39] <Supercheese> Germans do seem to have an extremely hard time with "th"
L293[14:15:51] <Supercheese> much like Americans are bamboozled by umlauts
L294[14:15:54] <Althego> i like the überlebensradar
L295[14:16:35] <APlayer> Supercheese: Bamboozled similar to this shocked smiley: ö
L296[14:16:36] <Fluburtur> I should try getting myself so airbrush paint for tattoos
L297[14:16:58] <Fluburtur> all my familly is like "tattoo bad" but I always like a nice one
L298[14:17:24] <Supercheese> bämböözled
L299[14:17:52] <APlayer> Plot twist: The German coast guard commercial actually referenced a vessel of people with German accent afraid to use their cognitive functions. "Mayday, mayday, we are thinking!"
L300[14:18:55] <Draconiator> Okay, why does a CD have a harder time being read vertically? My CD drive has always been like that.
L301[14:19:55] <ve2dmn> APlayer: ï sëë
L302[14:20:47] <Althego> whåtêveř
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L304[14:21:51] <ve2dmn> Overwatch annonced a new character... someone posted this: https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ThirdPerfectBluebreastedkookaburra-size_restricted.gif
L305[14:22:04] <ve2dmn> it needed music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnHmskwqCCQ
L306[14:22:05] <kmath> YouTube - -Yakety Sax- Music
L307[14:22:18] <Althego> it is literally a hamster in a ball
L308[14:22:46] <Althego> there was this site that did this. vine or something
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L310[14:22:56] <Althego> you could put music on videos
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L312[14:23:15] <Supercheese> vine was like for short 6 second clips
L313[14:23:39] <ve2dmn> I tried gifmusic, but it didn't like the .gif file
L314[14:23:59] <Eddi|zuHause> it's not like gif was standardized 30 years ago
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L316[14:24:20] <ve2dmn> Gif87 or Gif89?
L317[14:24:49] <Eddi|zuHause> close enough :p
L318[14:24:54] <Althego> this is still funny https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZe5J8SVCYQ
L319[14:24:55] <kmath> YouTube - The Missile Knows Where It Is...
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L321[14:26:24] <Althego> we spent half a day once in work trying to finding out what it means, by converting the words to variables and the sentences to equations. after that i am pretty sure it is just a clever way of trolling because there was an error in it :)
L322[14:26:54] <UmbralRaptor> intentional?
L323[14:27:31] <UmbralRaptor> And yes, that's the most fun description of an inertial guidance system.
L324[14:29:35] <JCB> .... was was looking at some DV stuff, thought it be cool to check Jool out. But ouch... the requirement, nearly 5km just to get to orbit?
L325[14:30:04] <JCB> Never mind paying a visit to one of the moons even..
L326[14:30:26] <Althego> it is free
L327[14:30:36] <Althego> either by the power of the umbrella :)
L328[14:30:47] <Althego> or tylo/éaythe
L329[14:30:50] <Althego> laythe
L330[14:31:21] <UmbralRaptor> Yeah, gravity and aero tricks help considerably.
L331[14:31:34] <Althego> the inflatable heatshield is really op. old days i was always doing aerocapture, but these days i prefer tylo
L332[14:32:12] <JCB> ok.. what about getting back out? Slingshot with Tylo?
L333[14:32:35] <ve2dmn> what is that heatshield made of? Asbestos?
L334[14:32:39] <Althego> or with laythe, but that is hard to plan, so i usually just leave whenever
L335[14:33:03] <JCB> hmm...
L336[14:33:55] <Althego> tylo is obviously more powerful
L337[14:35:32] <JCB> lol... funny how this DV planner says the sun has atmosphere, good for aerobraking..... ya might get a little toaty
L338[14:35:34] <JCB> toasty
L339[14:35:52] <ve2dmn> it is technically correct
L340[14:35:54] <Eddi|zuHause> well, it technically does :p
L341[14:35:58] <Althego> it has
L342[14:36:03] <Althego> same as jool
L343[14:36:09] <Althego> but these two are special bodies
L344[14:36:12] <JCB> was sorta wondering why specifically tylo... other than the rest too weak
L345[14:36:31] <Althego> and you can go closer to the surface
L346[14:36:34] <JCB> Laythe being too close..?
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L348[14:36:37] <Althego> which means better effect
L349[14:36:53] <Althego> while you cant get too close the laythe because of the atmosphere
L350[14:36:57] <JCB> I was just poking some fun, ya I know you can use Jool.. just careful not to get too low
L351[14:37:18] <JCB> ah ok..
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L353[14:38:24] <JCB> didn't think the sling shot effect had quite /that/ much affect when it came to atmosphere being in the way
L354[14:38:44] <JCB> as in, airless means you can get just a little bit closer, but bigger effect
L355[14:40:03] <Althego> usually you need some correction to hit a moon encounter, because they are hard to get. now doing that from half a solar system away and having limited fuel, i want to get the orbit that is the closest to what is desired
L356[14:40:22] <Althego> in ajool 5 missions tylo is my first target anyway
L357[14:40:39] <Althego> since it gets rid of the biggest chunk of mass
L358[14:41:06] <Althego> so i want to get an orbit that after the flyby is closest to jool
L359[14:41:21] <Althego> or rather the smallest apoapsis
L360[14:41:36] <Althego> still it is elongated
L361[14:42:04] <Althego> so adjusting theencounter usually means when getting closer to the surface my jool apoapsis gets smaller
L362[14:42:32] <JCB> I noticed the planner and DV map... fixed orbital heights, somewhat closest they could get.. there been a few cases where I wouldn't mind something a little higher, nice to know how it affects DV requirements
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L364[14:43:36] <Althego> oberth effect is also the best in lowest orbits, because you are faster there
L365[14:44:33] <JCB> one mission I ran.. put me into a slight elliptical around the Mun. I was suppose to get a good orbit, but I was getting concerned. I got back to kerbin orbit, figured out I only had 137dv left. Wasn't sure that be enough to circularize around the Mun and get back out again
L366[14:45:00] <Fluburtur> would mixing food color and alcohol work for airbrush tattoos
L367[14:45:13] <Fluburtur> I think it needs something else to glue the pigment in place
L368[14:45:22] <APlayer> Alcohol is much too volatile
L369[14:45:33] <Fluburtur> well it is there to dry quickly
L370[14:45:39] <JCB> I guess I could have circularized but then I'd be cutting things pretty close
L371[14:45:40] <APlayer> Dip something in it, and you get a thin film of alcohol all over the place
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L373[14:46:28] <APlayer> Spray something with alcohol, same effect
L374[14:47:21] <Fluburtur> this recipe sounds like trying to make some sort of weird glue https://arthearty.com/airbrush-body-paint
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L441[18:40:10] <Supernovy> Evening, Gentlemen.
L442[18:44:07] <LupiDragon> anyone have a clue how to write a tech tree adjust-y mod
L443[18:44:34] <LupiDragon> I proposed a balance pass to Squad for the Making History parts and I want to test it out a little
L444[18:44:50] <LupiDragon> https://www.reddit.com/r/KerbalSpaceProgram/comments/8octhr/proposed_balance_pass_for_the_making_history/
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L449[19:08:12] <taniwha> LupiDragon: check out community tech tree, or engineer(s|ing) tech tree.
L450[19:08:31] <LupiDragon> is that like what contract configurator is to contracts
L451[19:10:52] <taniwha> more or less, yeah
L452[19:37:12] <Draconiator> https://thenextweb.com/artificial-intelligence/2018/06/28/interstellar-space-travel-will-require-lots-of-sex - I suddenly want to go on that mission. lol
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L460[20:19:10] <LupiDragon> i wrote a modulemanager patch instead, since i'm just worknig within the stock nodes
L461[20:19:14] <LupiDragon> i'm ognna give it a quick test
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L468[20:37:04] <LupiDragon> https://hastebin.com/xohoramupa.hs is this right?
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