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L13[01:32:50] <GlassYuri> ...what were the last technical and non-technical books I've read
L14[01:34:38] <Gasher[work]> so Harlan Ellison died
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L31[04:06:53] <Neal1> 1.1km off of gilly's surface and I'm still "in space high over" it
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L40[04:37:55] <Rokker> SpaceX launch
L41[04:38:02] <Rokker> 5 min
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L43[04:39:32] <Rokker> https://youtu.be/ycMagB1s8XM
L44[04:39:33] <kmath> YouTube - CRS-15 Mission
L45[04:39:33] <Epppi> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycMagB1s8XM&feature=push-lsb&attr_tag=DLI_KE7yPmpBMm2x-6 link to launch
L46[04:39:34] <kmath> YouTube - CRS-15 Mission
L47[04:39:40] <Epppi> aha that link is better :D
L48[04:39:47] <Rokker> FLHerne: just in time for launch
L49[04:39:47] <Epppi> so much smaller
L50[04:40:02] <FLHerne> Rokker: Oh, thanks for the heads-up
L51[04:40:40] <FLHerne> (I completely forgot, while disaggregating my bike all over the kitchen)
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L53[04:57:45] <Mat2ch> oh, I missed the launch :|
L54[04:57:55] <Mat2ch> but no 1st stage landing, boring ;)
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L57[05:06:32] <Gasher[work]> well it would land patially
L58[05:06:35] <Gasher[work]> * partially
L59[05:09:01] <Truga> hydrobraking
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L63[05:14:04] <Rokker> Mat2ch: last expendable launch for a while
L64[05:14:11] <Rokker> block 5 from here on out
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L66[05:35:06] <Mat2ch> Rokker: \o/
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L75[06:16:48] <PrefixCactus> o/
L76[06:18:16] <Gasher[work]> hi
L77[06:18:17] <Mod9000> Hello, Gasher[work]
L78[06:20:33] <PrefixCactus> Hey Gasher
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L187[07:55:35] <Althego> i oculd have watched the spacex launch... but i was in a meeting
L188[08:10:34] <Althego> https://i.imgur.com/lOdIcY3.gifv
L189[08:12:23] <Althego> even better with high heels
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L191[08:29:55] <PrefixCactus> heh
L192[08:30:31] <PrefixCactus> I'm running around the cosmonaut training centre
L193[08:32:36] <PrefixCactus> and occasionally getting some time in on the simulators
L194[08:32:56] <Althego> irl?
L195[08:33:23] * Mat2ch looks severe at PrefixCactus
L196[08:33:28] <Mat2ch> No running at this point!
L197[08:34:07] <Althego> this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuri_Gagarin_Cosmonaut_Training_Center
L198[08:36:24] <PrefixCactus> yep
L199[08:36:27] <PrefixCactus> http://i66.tinypic.com/2vdsmbk.jpg
L200[08:36:27] <Althego> nice
L201[08:36:58] <PrefixCactus> three years of not playing ksp and now I'm here
L202[08:37:04] <Althego> hehe
L203[08:37:16] <PrefixCactus> refreshing mah skills
L204[08:37:35] <Mat2ch> you came to the right place
L205[08:37:45] <PrefixCactus> the RCS handles are ingenious
L206[08:38:06] <PrefixCactus> I wanna have them at home now
L207[08:38:09] <Althego> the two joysticks
L208[08:38:15] <Althego> a good idea
L209[08:38:20] <PrefixCactus> yeah
L210[08:38:27] <Althego> but that button pushing stick is silly :)
L211[08:38:32] <PrefixCactus> the left one is translation
L212[08:38:56] <Althego> ksp has the right one for that :)
L213[08:39:31] <PrefixCactus> joystick is up/down/left/right with a separate pro/retro switch on the left
L214[08:39:49] <PrefixCactus> works exactly like ijklhn
L215[08:39:52] <PrefixCactus> i
L216[08:39:53] <PrefixCactus> e
L217[08:39:56] <PrefixCactus> on/off
L218[08:40:25] <PrefixCactus> but it also has what's called the "pulse mode"
L219[08:41:05] <Althego> we are way past even "tone" mode already :)
L220[08:41:12] <PrefixCactus> when you move it, it makes a very short pulse, about .02 m/s
L221[08:41:16] <PrefixCactus> thn
L222[08:41:29] <PrefixCactus> then you have to release it and move again
L223[08:41:41] <Althego> that is nice
L224[08:42:26] <PrefixCactus> the vutton pushing stick is unnecessary when you're not strapped in
L225[08:42:35] <PrefixCactus> and not in a spacesuit
L226[08:42:52] <PrefixCactus> as for the rotation handle
L227[08:43:33] <PrefixCactus> it's a regular 3dof joystick (twistable for roll)
L228[08:43:41] <PrefixCactus> but with some quirks
L229[08:44:58] <PrefixCactus> first, the angle corresponds not to angular acceleration, as is usual in ksp, but to a constant angular speed
L230[08:45:04] <Althego> oh yes, two flat earth videos
L231[08:45:33] <PrefixCactus> then there's that button on the handle
L232[08:45:51] <Althego> i always hated that you had to do this pulse thing manually. only logical that it does the differentiation for you
L233[08:46:02] <PrefixCactus> when pressed it deactivates the spring and you can leave the stick in any position you like
L234[08:46:31] <Althego> like a trim button
L235[08:46:32] <PrefixCactus> the green/yellow one
L236[08:46:39] <PrefixCactus> yeah, kinda
L237[08:47:29] <PrefixCactus> except it's autostabilised to a constant angular speed, not a constant torque
L238[08:48:16] <PrefixCactus> so basically leaving the handle off-center gives you a steady spin with zero fuel consumption
L239[08:48:21] <Althego> so why are you there? do they take tourists now? or as a real astronaut on training?
L240[08:49:07] <PrefixCactus> I'm studying for a master's degree at the MSU Faculty of space exploration
L241[08:49:49] <PrefixCactus> (It's a new one, created this year, right when I got my bachelor's at CMC)
L242[08:50:15] <PrefixCactus> and they sent us here for two weeks
L243[08:51:34] <PrefixCactus> today's the last day, unfortunately
L244[08:52:24] <PrefixCactus> and I got to the simulators just yesterday, and before that I just sat in a room and did random stuff on my laptop
L245[08:52:44] <PrefixCactus> my fault though, should've asked earlier
L246[08:52:51] <Althego> hehe
L247[08:53:14] <PrefixCactus> still, I got to dock
L248[08:53:32] <PrefixCactus> (first try, top grade)
L249[08:53:46] <Althego> with some experience from ksp it wouldnt be strange
L250[08:53:55] <PrefixCactus> so apparently ksp skills do transfer to real life quite nicely
L251[08:54:17] <Althego> it also helps to fly helicpters :)
L252[08:54:20] <PrefixCactus> it's still different, but in a pleasant way
L253[08:54:35] <PrefixCactus> I don't ;)
L254[08:54:55] <Althego> at least that is y experience from simulators
L255[08:55:00] <Althego> *my
L256[08:55:11] <PrefixCactus> I have flown paragliders and regular gliders though
L257[08:55:15] <Althego> because hovering is much like landing on the moon
L258[08:55:27] <PrefixCactus> and clocked in lots of hours in x-plane
L259[08:55:43] <PrefixCactus> ah, hovering
L260[08:55:53] <PrefixCactus> yeah, the mechanics are the same
L261[08:56:02] <Althego> hovering and landing vertically is very similar tothat
L262[08:56:25] <PrefixCactus> though ksp lacks a very significant channel: accelerations sensed by the body
L263[08:56:38] <Althego> not really significant
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L265[08:56:57] <Althego> even simulators acn fake it easily, because it has very little effect
L266[08:57:07] <Althego> most of the feeling comes from your eyes
L267[08:57:34] <Althego> and that is why i get simulator sickness when motion is not on
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L269[08:58:20] <cactus> well, kinda
L270[08:58:38] <cactus> depends on the situation
L271[08:59:09] <cactus> anyway, the lab I study in works on these dynamic imitation platforms mostly
L272[08:59:33] <cactus> (and also on other VR stuff, naturally)
L273[08:59:57] <cactus> we have a moon rover simulator there
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L275[09:03:55] <cactus> also, there's a very simple but awesome system to verify that you're in the docking port axis translationally
L276[09:04:31] <Althego> there is that target what you can see in the docking videos. is that it?
L277[09:04:36] <cactus> it consists of a colored plate and a cross on a stick
L278[09:04:42] <Althego> that
L279[09:06:48] <cactus> yeah, probably
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L282[09:07:58] <cactus> it's either circular or a крщьигы
L283[09:08:03] <cactus> rhombus*
L284[09:10:50] <UmbralRaptor> That's a lot of consonants in a row.
L285[09:10:58] <Althego> hehe
L286[09:10:58] <cactus> tinypic
L287[09:11:05] <cactus> http://i63.tinypic.com/28hids4.jpg
L288[09:11:07] <cactus> er
L289[09:11:10] <cactus> derp
L290[09:11:14] <cactus> hi raptop!
L291[09:11:18] <cactus> long time no see
L292[09:11:46] * UmbralRaptor waves at cactus
L293[09:11:51] <Althego> here, this https://youtu.be/GQAmV_kv2Sk?t=439
L294[09:12:44] <cactus> yeah that one
L295[09:12:51] <cactus> there are two of them
L296[09:13:07] <cactus> offset differently
L297[09:13:27] <cactus> the small circular one os for the cam
L298[09:13:33] <Althego> this is from the recent docking. i liked the launch for that one because finally there was a camera on the upper stage. and you could see hw the lower stage detaches and spins away inksp style
L299[09:14:01] <cactus> the large rhomboidal one is for the circular optical visor between the legs
L300[09:15:02] <cactus> btw you can see in th vid how the cross moves as the soyuz vibrates left and right
L301[09:15:21] <cactus> http://i66.tinypic.com/1183tjp.jpg
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L303[09:16:09] <Althego> americans would have made some laser guided thingy, russians used a cross :)
L304[09:16:31] <cactus> it's extremely natural and convenient to use
L305[09:16:50] <cactus> like, you get used to it in the first 20 seconds or so
L306[09:19:09] <cactus> here's the instructor's side of the simulator http://i63.tinypic.com/se5a8n.jpg
L307[09:19:33] <Althego> expected as much
L308[09:19:51] <Althego> these look universally outdated, both east and west :)
L309[09:21:45] <cactus> top row, left to right: CM cam; image shown on the left screen in the module; all the panel indicators; right screen of CM
L310[09:22:22] <cactus> bottom center: copy of what the guy inside sees in the optical visor
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L312[09:23:35] <cactus> bottom left two screens: mission loader and lots of mechjeb-style stuff shown, like all the relative speeds, time to impact, etc
L313[09:24:12] <cactus> buttons around the optical visor screen: FAILURES
L314[09:24:23] <cactus> (assorted)
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L364[10:11:14] <cactus> ...
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L368[10:18:15] <Althego> https://twitter.com/notesfrompoland/status/1012312882170814464
L369[10:18:15] <kmath> <notesfrompoland> Migratory stork being tracked by Polish scientists went off the radar in Sudan -- then they got a 10,000 zloty phon… https://t.co/Q7FxIHpdtR
L370[10:18:17] <Althego> amateurs
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L374[10:29:32] <Althego> i am eating pink chocolate
L375[10:29:42] <Althego> ok, it is called ruby, whatever
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L386[11:00:59] <Althego> amazing transformation
L387[11:01:16] <Althego> from nobody to omnipotent god
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L391[11:10:47] <Althego> must be antarctic snow
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L394[11:15:24] <darsie> How many omnipotent gods are there?
L395[11:15:48] <Althego> as many as you can imagine :)
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L399[11:25:48] <Flub2> Rokker https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/236560222133551104/462291201974992897/20180629171803_1.jpg
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L404[11:47:13] <Flub2> also https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/236560222133551104/462297971623591946/20180629181741_1.jpg
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L407[12:18:04] <Flub2> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/236560222133551104/462305621971304448/20180629191430_1.jpg
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L416[13:55:36] <Rokker> Flub2: dammit, I thought it was an A-10
L417[13:55:41] <Rokker> for a second
L418[13:55:50] <Rokker> Flub2: wanna squad
L419[13:56:00] <Flub2> a10 in war thunder lel
L420[13:56:03] <Flub2> yeh maybe later
L421[13:57:00] <Rokker> Flub2: nice, I just unlocked the FJ-4
L422[13:57:14] <Flub2> I don't have the jets yet tho
L423[13:57:18] <Flub2> this was test flight
L424[13:57:22] <Flub2> still frinding
L425[13:57:25] <Flub2> grinding*
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L427[14:02:48] <Althego> hehe played through the first wave of raptor. it is still in my hand. (and in my ears, i could never forget the music of the first pc game i have ever heard)
L428[14:04:06] <UmbralRaptop> Bravo Sector waves 3 and 4 have better music than wave 1 which is better than wave 2 which is better than the rest. >_>
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L431[14:08:52] <UmbralRaptop> Althego: also, OCRemix has some nice variants.
L432[14:09:12] <Rokker> Flub2: I'm still down to grind other tiers
L433[14:09:31] <Flub2> I play 5.7 rn
L434[14:09:35] <Flub2> brcause narval
L435[14:14:47] <Althego> i guess it must have been an accidental highlight
L436[14:16:29] <UmbralRaptop> "Raptor" pings me for hopefully obvious reasons.
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L438[14:17:55] <Rokker> UmbralRaptop: what a silly unnecessary ping
L439[14:18:04] <Rokker> I'm glad all my pings are sensible
L440[14:18:13] <Althego> i always think this sasamj is a modified sasami
L441[14:18:31] <UmbralRaptop> Silly pings belong in a museum.
L442[14:18:36] <Althego> hehehe
L443[14:18:49] <Althego> ministry of silly pings
L444[14:19:02] * UmbralRaptop wraps sasamj up in rice and seaweed.
L445[14:19:06] <Rokker> reew
L446[14:19:40] <Althego> i rather think of the character in tenchi muyo
L447[14:20:03] <Rokker> never say any of these things https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/duNugGEq/Screenshot_20180629-151928_IRCCloud.jpg
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L449[14:20:20] <Althego> hehe
L450[14:20:40] <Althego> for aluminium
L451[14:21:16] <Rokker> cant correct people if I dont know they are saying it wrong
L452[14:22:14] <Althego> cant sleep, there are people wrong on the internet
L453[14:23:42] <UmbralRaptop> Don't typo AJ-10 or UA1207.
L454[14:24:28] <Althego> what happens then? is it like crossing the streams?
L455[14:27:49] <UmbralRaptop> That could get you "A-10" or "A10"
L456[14:28:11] <UmbralRaptop> And then politics gets pinged.
L457[14:28:26] <Althego> remember the a20 line?
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L459[14:29:53] * UmbralRaptop does not.
L460[14:30:24] <Althego> in the dos era that was responsible for the upper memory block. it is also a typpo candidate
L461[14:32:35] <Althego> or maybe it was for hmae, doesnt matter
L462[14:32:38] <Althego> hma
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L464[14:36:54] <Rokker> Flub2: seems like one of the most consistent way for me to survive the babby Sabres is to dive and then make them RIP off their wings when they pull up
L465[14:37:14] <Althego> hehe
L466[14:39:28] <Flub2> btw I flew my friend's dorito the other day
L467[14:39:36] <Flub2> pretty nice but breaks kinda easily
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L484[16:10:43] <sandbox> me trying to join the steam sale game...
L485[16:10:46] <sandbox> Join Planet Error
L486[16:10:46] <sandbox> Failed to join planet.
L487[16:11:03] <sandbox> much like real life ;p
L488[16:13:56] <Althego> heh i am halfway through the game and i realized i should have made the explosions less loud, so that the music is audible in the video
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L491[16:20:11] * UmbralRaptop blames Comcast.
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L494[16:27:41] <Zarthus> I just have a bot playing it day and night.
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L504[16:44:27] <Althego> Finally, we want to invite you all to join us tomorrow, June 30 on our very first Steam Broadcast! We’ll be celebrating the integration of the Steam Workshop together with Scott Manley and RocketPCGaming, starting at 9:00am PDT. You’ll be able to watch us here, directly on our Steam store page, and on Twitch at KSPTV. Check the Stream Schedule here.
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L510[17:11:17] <UmbralRaptop> Yay, asteroid day.
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L529[19:33:25] <Draconiator> hmmm, was looking at my PS2 memory card earlier....is 8MB of storage still viable...somewhere? heh.
L530[19:34:24] <Zarthus> Yes, on a PS2.
L531[19:35:41] <JCB> how big were teh PS1 version?
L532[19:36:31] <JCB> I ended up with a small box of a few cars for PS, (person passed on since) I don't recall if they were 1 or 2... one is a two in one card. button lets you pick which 'side'
L533[19:36:32] <Draconiator> 144KB
L534[19:36:40] <JCB> cards.. I mean.. derp
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L536[19:37:51] <JCB> Oh... they Ps1 carts..
L537[19:38:17] <JCB> had a bunch of data from Diablo 1 game. One this really stupid crazy character, named Dr. Doom
L538[19:38:53] <Draconiator> heh. even my flip phone reserves 129MB.
L539[19:39:24] <JCB> ~30megs on my flip
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L543[19:48:45] <Draconiator> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lbIuVDl6E4 - When I was in high school, they had these in the writing lab. I forgot the word processor they used...
L544[19:51:23] <JCB> I'm going to toss.. Word Perfect?
L545[19:51:53] <JCB> One of my schools had those too.. Word and Word Perfect were a couple of proccessors we had
L546[19:52:01] <JCB> Or.. Write
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L550[20:00:39] <Eddi|zuHause> oh i used to love word perfect. it was just so much better than word
L551[20:02:12] <ConductorCat> :3
L552[20:06:39] <JCB> I didn't know any better back then..
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L555[20:25:07] <Eddi|zuHause> that computer is a tiny bit older than what i used so far
L556[20:26:16] <Eddi|zuHause> the earliest computer i know anything about was a 386
L557[20:32:35] <JCB> 8088.. which I still have and runs..
L558[20:32:55] <JCB> earliest 'computer' family had was a TI-99/4A.. I've just emulators now
L559[20:33:45] <KrazyKrl> For the first half of my life, i always had thrift store computers... which means most of them were 10 year+ old computers before i even got a hold of them.
L560[20:35:49] <JCB> dad used to drop old computer hardware on me all the time.. figured I'd make use of it..
L561[20:36:30] <KrazyKrl> That happened to me once... in like 1998... with a Powermac 5500.
L562[20:40:11] <JCB> Most of it was dated stuff mind you..
L563[20:41:39] <KrazyKrl> I mean... when the hardware you get is so old that the replacement and upgrade components are actually getting more expensive.
L564[20:42:59] <Medu> ... or sold out and no longer produced. :P
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L567[21:24:23] <JCB> I needed a faster, better pc for stuff... I think he wondered why, if he was giving me stuff. :\
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