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L25[03:20:15] <Fluburtur> my internet is
slow for some reason
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L31[03:36:41] <Althego> hehe
L32[03:36:50] <JCB> if being a jerk was
healthy.......
L33[03:36:57] <Althego> you wouldnt die
from eating a vaccine, but it would be pointless
L34[03:37:27] <Althego> which one was the
jerk in your opinion
L35[03:37:55] <JCB> I don't know.. was just
trying to come up with something...
L36[03:38:02] <Fluburtur> there was a
edgehog just outside my door last night
L37[03:38:06] <JCB> got enough stupid
people on the roads... :\
L38[03:38:10] <Fluburtur> I have no idea
how he managed to get there
L39[03:38:13] <Fluburtur> and it was big as
well
L40[03:38:21] <Althego> hehe so french,
left out the h even in writing :)
L41[03:38:44] <JCB> edgehogs and possums...
:P
L42[03:38:56] <Mat2ch> Althego: uh, there
are vaccines that you have to eat
L43[03:38:59] <Mat2ch> poly I think
L44[03:39:10] <Althego> no opossums
here
L45[03:39:17] <Fluburtur> also those things
are fast, I went away for like 20 seconds and it disapeared
L46[03:39:36] <Althego> sonic :)
L47[03:39:43] <Althego> i never see them
move too fast
L48[03:39:45] <JCB> not blue.. not
sonic..
L49[03:40:06] <JCB> mind you.. you want
fast, watch a fennec freak out
L50[03:40:06] <Fluburtur> I thought they
were slow
L51[03:40:08] <Althego> they probably rely
more on their protection
L52[03:40:22] <Fluburtur> but I haven't
actually saw it moving so maybe it teleported away or
something
L54[03:40:45] <JCB> ninja vanish..
poof
L55[03:44:47] <Gasher> hm, there are
vaccines that are indeed administered orally
L56[03:44:54] <Althego> interesting
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L60[04:13:06] <Kalpa> Lul.
L62[04:17:52] <Mat2ch> errr, why did I
write poly, when I clearly thought polio?
L63[04:17:55] <Mat2ch> I need a brain
check...
L64[04:19:47] <Althego> minor issue
L65[04:19:54] <Althego> comes with age
:)
L66[04:25:44] <Mat2ch> Althego: No. I
clearly have some issues with that sometimes...
L67[04:25:59] <Mat2ch> Like I start a
sentence and can't finish it, because something else is getting my
attention
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L70[04:28:32] <Guest15801> anybody
here?
L71[04:28:38] <Althego> yes
L72[04:28:43] <Guest15801> oh
L73[04:28:54] <Guest15801> i thought this
was a abandoned thing
L74[04:28:58] <Althego> no
L75[04:29:01] <Guest15801> but suprisingly
not
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L77[04:29:50] <Althego> hehe
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L79[04:40:02] <Mat2ch> Gasher: it's sunday
morning, we need to get up first :P
L80[04:48:11] <JCB> oh.. missed guest
excitement.. derp
L81[04:48:57] <JCB> was watching video on
someone's radio based project...
L82[04:54:48] <Mat2ch> oh, well
L83[04:54:50] <Mat2ch> yes
L84[04:54:55] <Mat2ch> I highlighted the
wrong person
L85[04:54:58] <Mat2ch> see what I mean?
:P
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L91[05:35:26] <JCB> surprised I'm still up
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L97[06:23:30] <Fluburtur> Rokker mb157 best
baguette plane
L98[06:23:36] <Fluburtur> I evaded a
zero
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L101[06:36:49] <APlayer> Planuette
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L104[06:55:03] <Fluburtur> wanted it for a
while
L105[07:05:28] <Rokker> Fluburtur: c.200
best french plane
L106[07:05:43] <Fluburtur> isn't that
italian?
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L110[07:17:26] <GlassYuri> ...the
simplified chinese version of the valve steamworks non disclosure
agreement uses a completely different font than the other
three
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L112[07:40:51] <Rokker> Fluburtur: thats
why its the best
L113[07:40:56] <Rokker> cause its not
french
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L115[07:52:39] <Mat2ch> Or aluminium
L116[07:54:06] <Rokker> aluminum
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L118[08:16:42] <petti> aluminimum
L119[08:17:20] *
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L120[08:17:50] <Mat2ch> This "Another
Dirty Room" series is hilarious. :D
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L144[11:34:25] <kmath> YouTube - 3d
printed spinner on wing
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L147[12:20:53] <Mat2ch> needs some
balancing. But otherwise awesome!
L148[12:24:58] <Fluburtur> nah doesn't
even need balancing, there is no vibrations
L149[12:25:17] <Mat2ch> But in the video
it seems to be unbalanced
L150[12:25:35] <Fluburtur> well it
isn't
L151[12:25:40] <Fluburtur> but the plastic
does flex a bit
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L153[12:31:48] <tantalo> Hi there! Is
anyone bored enough to have a look at one of my craft files? I have
a little issue.
L154[12:32:50] <tantalo> More
specifically, I made my first spaceplane, and while it is easy to
fly and capable of reaching orbit, I'm not too happy with the
controls.
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L156[12:33:36] <tantalo> In level flight,
it's stable, but whenever I pitch up, it rolls slightly to the
left, which is a little annoying during ascent, and even more so
while landing.
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L159[12:33:57] <Draconiator> is it 1.4.3
and stock?
L160[12:34:23] <tantalo> Because it always
rolls to the left, I think the culprit is not aerodynamic
instability, but an assymmetry somewhere in the design, but I can't
find it.
L162[12:34:37] <Draconiator> I can
help
L163[12:35:07] <tantalo> *asymmetry
:)
L164[12:37:12] <Draconiator> Okay let me
boot it up and see here.
L165[12:38:24] <tantalo> IIRC, the issue
gets more pronounced when the fuel runs low.
L166[12:39:03] <tantalo> So you might want
to remove the fuel from the wing tanks for easier
reproduction.
L167[12:39:38] <Draconiator> Yeah, less
weight the plane has, the more aerodynamic forces act on the
plane.
L168[12:43:28] <Draconiator> hmmm, I've
had this same thing happen to me before, the tail fin is too small,
and it makes it want to yaw.
L169[12:44:29] <Draconiator> I'm trying to
fix it for ya.
L170[12:44:38] <tantalo> Thanks!
L171[12:45:47] <tantalo> So you think the
issue is indeed aerodynamic instability, and it's just a
coincidence that it always rolls left, never right?
L172[12:46:29] <Draconiator> Yeah
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L180[13:04:22] <tantalo> Thanks, I'll give
it a try.
L181[13:13:51] <JCB> poor Jeb... wonder
how many bills he's collected over the years since the game came
out..
L182[13:14:23] <Zarthus> Lots of
bills.
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L184[13:14:53] <Althego> jeb collects
bills? bill collets bobs?
L185[13:15:48] <tantalo> Draconiator: Yep,
issue is mostly gone now, unless the tanks are nearly dry.
Thanks!
L186[13:16:00] <tantalo> Why did you
replace the front canards, btw?
L187[13:16:00] <JCB> guess the fame he's
garnered, people think he's making a ton of money or
something
L188[13:16:13] <Zarthus> you think he's
not?
L189[13:16:24] <JCB> kerbals make
money?
L190[13:16:32] <JCB> I thought they just
did it for the thrills
L191[13:16:36] <Althego> hiring them costs
some credits
L192[13:16:40] <tantalo> He's probably
spending it all on hotrods.
L193[13:16:40] <Zarthus> What do you think
they're paid in, exposure?
L194[13:16:41] <Althego> funds
L195[13:17:08] <JCB> costs money to hire
'other' kerbals...
L196[13:17:23] <tantalo> Who hires kerbals
though?
L197[13:18:07] <Zarthus> TakeTwo
L198[13:18:11] <Althego> hehe
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L200[13:18:29] <tantalo> I don't think I
ever hired a single one, I just occasionally fly rescue
missions.
L201[13:18:48] <JCB> who keeps stranding
kerbals that you have to rescue?
L202[13:19:00] <Zarthus> you guys don't
sound like very nice employers
L203[13:19:25] <tantalo> Yeah, it's hard
to believe there are other space agencies with even worse safety
standards.
L204[13:19:49] <JCB> I'd rather not see
them go poof... then again, I've gotten rather good at the
game...
L205[13:20:11] <JCB> mind you... that
kerbal comics about game reversions? (whatever happened to the
comics anyways?)
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L210[13:38:49] <tantalo> Is there some way
to adjust the properties of parts if I can't click on them because
they're covered by other parts?
L211[13:39:25] <tantalo> A while ago, I
had that problem when I accidentally moved an RCS port to deep into
the fuselage; I could only remove it by editing the craft file
manually.
L212[13:39:26] <JCB> its not letting you
select?
L213[13:39:45] <JCB> you could try moving
your view point to the inside of the part its on
L214[13:40:03] <tantalo> Hmm, that might
work. Thanks!
L215[13:40:43] <JCB> sometimes its a
little tricky... view point having certain limits. can sort of get
around it by moving the craft itself, just be sure to place it
back, else it won't be centered when you launch
L216[13:41:40] <JCB> .... the days when we
built stuff before part's offset was a thing...
L217[13:42:27] <tantalo> Eek, that sounds
nasty.
L219[13:46:39] <JCB> Fluburtur you seen
the flitetest youtube video them finally getting around to using
the 3d printed motor that was sent to them?
L220[13:46:47] <Fluburtur> yeah
L221[13:46:49] <Fluburtur> was pretty
nice
L222[13:47:05] <JCB> didn't notice the
smoke coming out of it till after I saw mention in the
comments
L223[13:47:17] <Fluburtur> there was
smoke?
L224[13:47:23] <Fluburtur> I guess 12s was
a but much then
L225[13:47:25] <JCB> right as the motor
died
L226[13:47:31] <Fluburtur> heh
L227[13:47:36] <Fluburtur> probably some
coil burning
L228[13:47:47] <JCB> Josh even mentioned
it at the end... but didn't want to say anything at first
L230[13:48:17] <kmath> YouTube - R 20
maiden
L231[13:48:36] <JCB> quicksilver
ultralight cute little plane, old design... my airfield manager
would probably try to melt it for scrap if he saw one on his
field
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L233[13:49:00] <Fluburtur> heh
L234[13:49:50] <Fluburtur> transitbiker
will need to give a name to this model
L235[13:50:15] <JCB> I don't know.. he
does seem rather particular of the kind of planes flying out of his
field...
L236[13:50:36] <Fluburtur> "no you
can't land I don't like your plane"
L237[13:50:48] <JCB> have to take off in
order to land
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L239[13:52:12] <Fluburtur> but what if
someone is flying from one place to another and needs to stop
L240[13:52:17] <Fluburtur> to like get a
drink or something
L241[13:53:35] <Draconiator>
<tantalo> Why did you replace the front canards, btw? - even
more stability.
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L243[13:53:58] <Fluburtur> Draconiator I
develloped a new light fighter
L244[13:54:03] <Draconiator> One thing I
couldn't fix though...
L245[13:54:18] <Draconiator> THE ENGINES
STILL SOUND LIKE DANGED VACCUMM CLEANERS
L247[13:54:47] <Fluburtur> designed to
have good turnfight capabilities but likes to flat spin on hard
turns
L248[13:54:59] <Fluburtur> it can recover
but takes like 10 seconds and it loses a lot of speed then
L249[13:55:26] <Draconiator> Hm. too wide
maybe.
L250[13:55:39] <Fluburtur> nah
L251[13:55:48] <Fluburtur> it flies well
until you get to a certain AoA
L252[13:56:01] <Fluburtur> and if you turn
at the same time
L253[13:56:04] <JCB> fluburtur
tailfins?
L254[13:56:09] <Fluburtur> goes to a pitch
spin then a yaw spin
L255[13:56:40] <JCB> ... got a pic of the
design?
L256[13:56:54] <Fluburtur> no but I could
send you a similar one
L257[13:57:03] <Fluburtur> wait maybe I
do
L258[13:57:18] <Fluburtur> that design was
actually a happy accident
L259[13:57:27] <Fluburtur> when one of my
planes lost the tail and kept on flying just fine
L260[13:57:38] <Fluburtur> planks are
somewhat popular in rc stuff
L262[13:57:58] <Fluburtur> but you have to
get the CG perfect
L264[13:58:48] <JCB> uff...
L266[13:59:13] <JCB> rudder doesn't cause
too much roll when used?
L267[13:59:18] <Fluburtur> idk
L268[13:59:30] <Fluburtur> seems to be
fine
L269[14:00:19] <Fluburtur> but it has the
problem with BDA when the autopilot is flying it
L270[14:00:34] <Fluburtur> I tried to
tweak it but when I get it to not stall out it doesn't turn a
lot
L271[14:00:45] <JCB> you got control
surfaces far out, so probably compensates.. don't know about ya
authority rudder a bit close to CL
L272[14:00:59] <JCB> BDA?
L273[14:01:13] <Fluburtur> bd armory
L274[14:01:26] <JCB> oh right.. noticed
you've got kerbinside. :)
L276[14:02:06] <JCB> I'm a little cautious
about putting fins on wing tips, it might help more with side slip
than with ya control...
L278[14:03:05] <JCB> curious
L279[14:03:15] <Fluburtur> yeah
L280[14:03:26] <Fluburtur> I guess my
problem is from stalling at weird angles
L281[14:03:49] <JCB> the overall body
shape can also help with airflow control too.. just depends
L282[14:04:46] <JCB> AoA can be a bit of a
problem if its too high.. causes some control surfaces, mainly the
rudder to end up putting forces at odd angles
L283[14:05:11] <Fluburtur> symetrical
rudder then?
L284[14:05:19] <Fluburtur> or maybe rudder
on the end of wings like in the sigma
L285[14:05:21] <JCB> not so much
that
L286[14:05:46] <JCB> is it a slight AoA
that causes spin outs, or the more extreme end?
L287[14:05:57] <Fluburtur> more
extreme
L288[14:06:04] <Fluburtur> above 35° it
seems
L289[14:06:11] <Fluburtur> and during a
roll turn
L290[14:06:29] <Fluburtur> basically it
seems to snap for 90° of aoa then go into a spin
L291[14:07:19] <JCB> 35 degree is medium,
start to heavy.. consider it a design limitation?
L292[14:07:27] <Fluburtur> maybe
L293[14:07:35] <Fluburtur> I coudl try
reducing the control surfaces movement
L294[14:07:40] <JCB> you probably pulling
quite a few 'g's at that pitch
L295[14:07:49] <Fluburtur> I added the
panthers to give it post stall control but it doesn't doo
much
L296[14:08:10] <JCB> could try pulling the
tail out further...
L297[14:08:19] <Fluburtur> the
rudder?
L298[14:08:21] <JCB> just the rudder.. see
if that does anything..
L299[14:08:35] <Fluburtur> maybe
L300[14:08:53] <Fluburtur> but it starts
as a pitch spin so I think it will only affect the recovery
L301[14:09:10] <JCB> might just be too
close to the CoL... though I'm surprised you've that much pitch
authority off the back of the wings where they are. CL and CoL must
be pretty close
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L303[14:09:33] <Fluburtur> it gives very
good pitch actually
L304[14:09:38] <Fluburtur> because it is
short coupled
L305[14:10:17] <Fluburtur> but good
stability as well
L306[14:10:52] <Fluburtur> anyways, shower
time
L307[14:11:07] <Fluburtur> if you
replicate that design the CG needs to be very close to the
COL
L308[14:11:24] <JCB> I usually give my
control surfaces a bit more movement arm, though challenge is in
keeping CoL and CoM in the right places for all rotations
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L310[14:11:56] <JCB> ya... I think when
you pitch, throws CoL forwards in the KSP modeling.. whats causing
you to spin
L311[14:12:24] <JCB> you can try testing,
moving the control surfaces just a slight bit in pitch in the
hangar...
L312[14:14:55] <JCB> its just a thought.
sometimes I'll pitch my elevator a little, help push the CoL
forwards closer to the CoM.. built in trim in a way
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L344[15:15:47] <Guest84469> hello
L345[15:15:48] <Mod9000> Hello,
Guest84469
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L348[15:16:52] <Guest84469> I am having
some trouble getting a mining vessel on the mun
L349[15:17:05] <Guest84469> and with
spelling corectly
L350[15:18:15] <Guest84469> any
ideas
L351[15:18:39] <Guest84469> my rocket
keeps falling over
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L353[15:20:27] <Guest84469> is anyone even
here?
L354[15:20:46] <sandbox> you
L355[15:21:14] <Guest84469> yes?
L356[15:21:34] <BenjaminK> yup
L357[15:22:04] <Guest84469> so people are
actually here
L358[15:22:09] <BenjaminK> make sure the
weight is on the bottom
L359[15:22:30] <BenjaminK> cause topheavy
on even a small slope is !good
L360[15:22:55] <Guest84469> can I put the
refiner below the fuel tank?
L361[15:23:32] <BenjaminK> depends what
the weights are
L362[15:23:49] <Guest84469> good to know
thanks
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L364[15:24:11] <BenjaminK> and dont use
dinky little landing gear either
L365[15:24:16] <BenjaminK> oh okay
L366[15:24:25] <BenjaminK> :V
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L368[15:27:36] <JCB> that the same guest
that keeps coming in or...? I have a hard time keeping track of the
#
L369[15:27:55] <BenjaminK> the number
changes I think
L370[15:28:03] <BenjaminK> Cause
autoassigned by esper
L371[15:29:17] <JCB> they sure don't stick
around for long...
L372[15:33:13] <BenjaminK> well, they want
a question answered
L373[15:34:20] <JCB> could have said
anything, and they'd poof just as quick
L374[15:34:41] <BenjaminK> :V
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L376[15:35:20] <JCB> I guess not feeling
very social.. maybe just me
L377[15:35:35] <BenjaminK> !shrug
L378[15:35:46] <BenjaminK> or
theyrebplaying ksp :V
L379[15:35:47] <JCB> Lol.. I've yet to
work on a mining rig... though if I did, probably spend days
getting the design just right.
L380[15:36:26] <JCB> shrug.. I've seen a
guest come in, ask something. then run right back out before anyone
could answer..
L381[15:36:27] <BenjaminK> I dont have the
pacience for that :V
L382[15:38:02] <JCB> Everyone looks at KSP
in different ways..
L383[15:38:45] <JCB> I should probably
look at the forums more often... post things there.
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L429[19:07:10] <GurrenLagannCWP> Hey
guys
L430[19:07:31] <UmbralRaptor> Greetings,
galaxy sized robot.
L431[19:09:42] <GurrenLagannCWP> As you
may had saw on KSP Forums *cough* The Minmus Derp *cough*, my
graphics card broke
L432[19:10:48] <GurrenLagannCWP> The only
game that can run at 60 FPS now is a 2-D Gravity Simulator where
objects are only points
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L443[20:14:16] <Supernovy> Evening,
Gentlemen.
L444[20:26:14] <kuzetsa> what about
val
L445[20:29:10] <UmbralRaptor> She's over a
timezone where it's morning?
L446[20:29:39] <kuzetsa> fair
L447[20:29:55] <kuzetsa> timezones aren't
worth including, so I'll give you that
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L457[22:34:17] *
UmbralRaptor misread that as TIS-100 emulator for a
moment.
L458[22:37:04] <JCB> sometimes also known
as trash-80... sadly
L459[22:37:25] <JCB> Draconiator that the
desktop version or the pocket?
L460[22:38:17] <JCB> oh wait... which is
the pocket model-1? I've actually got that one, from a friend
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L462[22:50:41] <Draconiator> It's
displaying 100 on the screen but the menu options there are the
different models.
L464[22:58:23] <JCB> some people were
smart enough to save things before it got destroyed?
L465[22:58:47] <JCB> that or spent lots of
time reconstructing what they could
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