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L31[04:28:49] <Pakaran> Wow, GPP has nice
loading screen art.
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L37[04:41:04] *
APlayer frowns at the link
L38[04:42:51] <Mat2ch> sandbox: not too
old.
L39[04:43:06] <Mat2ch> Also the exhaust
gases of this TARDIS are a bit ewwwwwwwwwwwww
L40[04:44:09] <Fluburtur> my grandma wants
me to have a car now
L41[04:44:12] <Fluburtur> for some
reason
L42[04:44:21] <Fluburtur> and she's like
"you could have a 2cv"
L43[04:48:18] <Althego> you have a job, so
you can spend money on a car
L44[04:49:16] <Althego> i wouldnt want
that. going to work and back i would win like 15 minutes, but still
need to look for parking place, and worry that it is stolen while i
sleep, plus driving is totally lost time while i can read on public
transport
L45[04:49:41] <Fluburtur> yeah I don't want
a car either
L46[04:49:51] <Fluburtur> too much budget
to keep that crap running
L48[04:51:58] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: don't get
a car.
L49[04:52:04] <Mat2ch> first learn how to
repair cars
L50[04:52:12] <Mat2ch> and then get an
electric car, because it doesn't need repairs
L51[04:52:12] <Althego> hehe
L52[04:52:15] <Althego> cant really
L53[04:52:21] <Fluburtur> I know how to
repair cars
L54[04:52:26] <Althego> modern cars have
like halfa ozen computers in them
L55[04:52:27] <Fluburtur> I can repair
tractor
L56[04:52:30] <Mat2ch> Repairing cars is
easy, but having all the tools is hard
L57[04:52:41] <Mat2ch> use the tractor to
get to work. :D
L58[04:53:05] <Althego> hehe
L59[04:54:05] <Fluburtur> tanks are
considered tractors
L60[04:54:12] <Althego> there was a story
about a guy that used a combine harvester to go to the macdrive
:)
L61[04:55:20] <APlayer> Did he harvest some
fries?
L62[04:56:36] <Fluburtur> then someone
suggested I get a moped or something
L63[04:56:46] <Fluburtur> then I was like
"yes I desire to perish"
L64[04:57:20] <Althego> hehe
L65[04:57:37] <Althego> no way i am taking
something like that through traffic
L66[04:58:25] <Fluburtur> well there isn't
that much traffic here but still no
L67[04:59:27] <Mat2ch> you could get a
pedelec
L68[05:00:05] <Fluburtur> what is
that
L69[05:01:55] <Althego> wiki says electric
bike
L70[05:02:00] <Fluburtur> no
L71[05:02:06] <Fluburtur> my job is like
20km away
L72[05:05:08] <Mat2ch> well, those go up to
25 km/h and you don't have to do much, just turn the pedals.
:D
L73[05:05:24] <Fluburtur> no
L74[05:05:34] <Mat2ch> There are some that
are even faster, but then you probably need a license...
L75[05:05:41] <Fluburtur> listen I don't
want to get to my job being tired already because of focusing on
not dying
L76[05:05:45] <Althego> i have better.
electros go a lot faster and i dont need to move anywhere
L77[05:05:50] <Althego> electrons
L78[05:09:40] <Mat2ch> Remote working by
having a robot at the workplace?
L79[05:09:53] <Mat2ch> Don't think about
doing that. That's my idea!
L80[05:10:02] <Mat2ch> I need a patent
laywer. Anyone around?
L81[05:10:05] <Fluburtur> sadly the job I
have to do would be hard to replace by a robot
L82[05:10:08] <Althego> luckily pushing
around code does not need a robot
L83[05:10:26] <Althego> i had an other
idea. a telepresence device on the head of technicians
L84[05:10:38] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: you get a
VR station at home and you control the robot from there
L85[05:10:51] <Althego> you see what they
see and you can draw something in their field of vision to mark
what to do
L86[05:10:59] <Althego> also integrating a
phone
L87[05:11:09] <Mat2ch> Althego: that's this
augmented reality stuff
L88[05:11:22] <Althego> not exactly
L89[05:11:34] <Althego> because it is not
adding a simulated reality, but me on the other side
L90[05:12:00] <Althego> and this idea was
more than 10 years ago, when it was not really so obvious
L91[05:12:49] <Fluburtur> unfortunately my
job requires good dexterity and good eyes
L92[05:13:12] <Fluburtur> like you can
build mosth thermometers using machines and it is even very nice to
see how they work but not the weird ones
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L94[05:14:26] <APlayer> (evil robot
laughter in the distance)
L95[05:14:52] <Fluburtur> speaking of, I
got a bunch of videos from my job and I need to edit them
L96[05:35:38] <Fluburtur> time to upgrade
the suepr plank
L97[05:36:23] <Althego> becomes hyper
plank?
L98[05:36:33] <Fluburtur> idk
L99[05:36:35] <Fluburtur> maybe
L100[05:36:50] <Fluburtur> I will jsut
change the engine and balance it a bit
L101[05:37:09] <Fluburtur> ksp wings are
actually good for planks because no pitching moment
L102[05:37:15] <Fluburtur> because they
have no actual airfoil
L104[05:45:26] <kmath> YouTube - Ace
Combat 7: Skies Unknown - PS4/XB1/PC - E3 2018 Trailer
L105[05:56:13] <NGC3982> so, surviving
mars
L106[05:56:28] <Althego> opportinity is
trying its best
L107[05:56:33] <NGC3982> €40 and mixed
reviews on steam. that doesn't sound right?
L108[05:56:52] <Althego> somebody is
playing it here
L109[05:57:56] <NGC3982> sure, i trust
paradox with every dime i have, but that does sound a bit
risky
L110[06:01:57] <Mat2ch> then you should
wait for a sale
L111[06:02:09] <Mat2ch> some say it's
unbalanced, some say it has no real ending
L112[06:02:14] <Mat2ch> no meaning to play
it
L113[06:03:09] <NGC3982> i see.
L114[06:05:30] <Mat2ch> But it's a casual
game, what do they expect?
L115[06:07:03] <NGC3982> the thing is, i
have over a thousand hours into cities skylines. i always accepted
that the game was endless and almost purposeless in a way, because
the original game was <€20 upon release. also, it happend to
compete with sim city 4 which as a literal scam poop
disaster.
L116[06:07:42] <NGC3982> in this case, €40
and "no ending lol" does not feel that great.
L117[06:08:00] <Mat2ch> steam sale is
near. It'll start next week
L118[06:08:02] <Mat2ch> ;)
L119[06:16:05] <GlassYuri> NGC3982,
cities: skylines is kinda interesting, it was budgeted and
developed with low sales expectations, to the point where it
apparently exceeded the lifetime goal within 24 hours
L121[06:23:07] <NGC3982> GlassYuri:
cool
L122[06:23:40] <NGC3982> i still think it
is the best city builder ever. it doesnt have everything all the
other city builders have, but in the time of its release it simply
gave us everything the other games did not
L123[06:24:02] <NGC3982> no dmr bullshit,
no inflated price tag, no scam like handling of bugs
L124[06:24:16] <NGC3982> i loved it, and i
still love it (even tho i do not play it anymore)
L125[06:24:55] <GlassYuri> well for a
start it is the only good modern city builder
L126[06:25:34] <GlassYuri> everything else
is either trash or horribly outdated in terms of technology and
user experience
L127[06:25:51] <NGC3982> i agree
L128[06:28:13] <GlassYuri> I tried playing
SimCity4 but the user experience is so outdated I only managed a
total of 27 minutes according to steam
L129[06:28:43] <NGC3982> :(.
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L132[06:31:10] <sandbox> RIP Maxis
L133[06:31:23] <NGC3982> sorry for bad
language, by the way.
L134[06:31:27] <Tank2333> try cities
skylines
L135[06:31:47] <Tank2333> maxis died long
ago though
L136[06:32:56] <sandbox> in a galaxy far,
far away
L137[06:33:17] <NGC3982> ..maxis
survived.
L138[06:33:56] <sandbox> if you call that
surviving
L139[06:34:01] <Tank2333> is simcity from
EA?
L140[06:34:28] <NGC3982> so, i have a
question regarding orbial mechanics. let's say i get into a stable
orbit around an object in the kerbal solar system. it seems like
however long i wait, it loops the number of times i get to a
certain distance to the object.
L141[06:34:30] <sandbox> *spit* yes
L142[06:34:46] <NGC3982> are -all- orbits
synchronous in KSP?
L143[06:34:52] <Tank2333> well imagin a
world without supercorp gaming companys
L144[06:34:54] <Althego> no
L145[06:35:03] <Tank2333>
candymountain
L146[06:35:14] <NGC3982> AvE?
L147[06:35:23] <Althego> sync orbits not
even always possible because of soi limits
L148[06:35:48] <Tank2333> cockford
ollie
L149[06:36:13] <Althego> the dragon
speech
L150[06:36:27] <Althego> and it was long
ago
L151[06:36:31] <NGC3982> Althego: because,
it seems like i always end up with the almost exact same distance
to the object. orbit one, 1m km. orbit two, 1.2m km, orbit three,
2.3m km. then it seems to loop.
L152[06:36:35] <NGC3982> whatever orbit i
have.
L153[06:36:35] <Althego> things havent
gotten any better
L154[06:36:42] <NGC3982> Tank2333:
<3.
L155[06:37:08] <Tank2333> ^^
L156[06:37:20] *
NGC3982 pokes his love choocher in Tank2333s boona
end.
L157[06:37:23] <NGC3982> not sure i did
that right
L158[06:38:45] <Althego> anyway, chris
crawford missed the art from games, and attacked the state of them
as a dragon. with a sword in his hand chared out of the hall. and
never went back since then. it was in 1992. situation
unchanged
L159[06:39:23] <Tank2333> i watched so
many vids of him his funny speech sounds normal to me :)
L160[06:40:04] <Fluburtur> about to order
some plastic for the printer, what color should I take?
L162[06:40:40] <Althego> the orange, that
is ripe for eating
L163[06:40:58] <GlassYuri> light
green
L164[06:44:06] <Fluburtur> I wanted to
take transluscent but they don't have it
L165[06:44:10] <Fluburtur> orage then I
guess
L166[06:44:15] <Fluburtur> white is a bit
boring
L167[06:44:21] <Althego> but dont eat
it
L168[06:44:27] <Tank2333> althego...
wow... just googled him and wiki says that he Developed Tanktics,
wich i loved playing a demo on my ps1 but for almost two decades i
could not remember the name of it and i was doubting my memory of
playing a game like that
L169[06:44:51] <Tank2333> what a
coincident ^^ thanks for that
L170[06:48:53] <Fluburtur> k ordered 2
rolls of orange plastic
L171[06:49:30] <APlayer> That's
suspiciously cheap
L172[06:49:46] <Fluburtur> 16€ per roll,
not really
L173[06:50:20] <APlayer> 16€ / kg
L174[06:50:28] <APlayer> I'd pay as much
for 500 g perhaps
L175[06:50:43] <Fluburtur> the ones I
ordered last time were like 15 per kg
L176[06:50:52] <Fluburtur> works just
fine
L177[06:51:16] <APlayer> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L178[06:52:00] <NGC3982> i just realized
how we gamers differ from each other
L179[06:52:16] <NGC3982> i have been on
steam since it started, and i have 10 games.
L180[06:52:23] <Althego> hehe
L181[06:52:26] <NGC3982> the one with the
least hours is 190
L182[06:52:40] <NGC3982> my friend has
like 500 games and an hour each :p
L183[06:53:48] <GlassYuri> I *think* I
have to rewrite the model loader in my game
L184[06:53:55] <GlassYuri> right now it
only takes forever
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L186[06:57:23] <Glass|phone> even after
loading the performance sometimes drops below 60 frames per
hour
L187[06:57:48] <Althego> lol
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L189[06:58:59] <Althego> try making a game
that doesnt need frames. operates with stills. like type in
adventure or turn based strategy
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L191[07:02:37] <Tank2333> NGC3982 that is
called "pile of shame"
L192[07:02:58] <Althego> no, it is called
ksp :)
L193[07:03:18] <NGC3982> to be honest, it
actually comes from a youth based on piracy
L194[07:03:47] <Tank2333> yeah
L195[07:04:35] <Tank2333> i have more than
10 but only a few i realy played longer than an hour
L196[07:04:39] <NGC3982> even though im
from the eighties, i never bought games as a kid. now, when im a
grown up i take very, very good care about what games i buy. i test
-a lot- (steam refund is nice), but keep few.
L197[07:04:56] <NGC3982> i have no real
interest in keeping games if i dont like them.
L198[07:05:18] <Tank2333> the most time i
sunk into games on pc was before steam came as malware with
Counterstrike 1.6
L199[07:06:36] <Althego> hehe
L200[07:12:12] <NGC3982> i actually bought
surviving mars now
L201[07:12:17] <NGC3982> right of the bat
it looks cool
L202[07:12:33] <NGC3982> but i cant stand
scroll wheel rotation. i want right click rotation. :(
L203[07:12:46] <Althego> we still need the
scott manley narration dlc
L204[07:13:27] <NGC3982> also, the
windowed fullscreen is broken. it doesnt allow selecting things
outside of the game without an initial focus click
L205[07:13:57] <NGC3982> how can these
things be a problem? these are default options and functions that
worked out of the box with cities. :|
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L211[07:37:02] <kmath> YouTube - bf110
divided by zero
L212[07:37:28] <Althego> what,
bitcoin?
L213[07:37:35] <APlayer> We shall be
shipping gold to you. Solomon.
L214[07:37:44] <Fluburtur> the zootopia
comic
L216[07:37:56] <Althego> because
cold
L217[07:38:01] <Althego> lol alt
text
L218[07:38:41] <Althego> *gold
L219[07:41:17] <NGC3982> yeah, the
controls in the game is broken.
L220[07:41:25] <NGC3982> other than that,
it feels kinda fun so far.
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L227[08:24:26] <NGC3982> ..and it
froze.
L228[08:24:30] <NGC3982> nope, this is a
refund. :|
L229[08:31:22] <Fluburtur> im gonna make a
video on how I make my rc planes
L230[08:31:36] <Fluburtur> I will insist
heavily on aluminium so every american will have a stroke
L231[08:31:48] <Althego> hehe
L232[08:31:53] <Althego> because it is
aluminium :)
L233[08:32:06] <Althego> dont forget to
use si :)
L234[08:32:23] <Fluburtur> how could I
forget
L235[08:32:28] <APlayer> Don't forget to
add Gallium
L236[08:32:50] <Althego> GaAs III-VI
semiconductor?
L237[08:32:59] <Althego> III-V
L238[08:33:01] <Althego> whatever
L239[09:25:10] <Rokker> aluminum
L240[09:25:28] <Fluburtur> Althego it
worked
L241[09:25:41] <Althego> what
L242[09:25:53] <Fluburtur> saying
aluminium
L243[09:26:15] <Althego> but museum works
better
L244[09:26:52] <Rokker> aluminum
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L246[09:54:34] <Mat2ch> Ah, Aluminium,
such a great material to work with!
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L251[10:08:21] <Rokker> aluminum
L252[10:19:04] <Mat2ch> Nice Aluminium you
have there. It would be a pity if something bad happens to it
L253[10:27:42] <petti> aluminimum?
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L258[10:52:48] <Draconiator> Is it
pronounched "Ah-loo-minn-ee-um" or
"ah-loo-min-umm"?
L259[10:53:40] <Fluburtur> first one
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L262[10:59:06] <petti> pretty stupid
argument, obviously both are wrong, as are all languages which
require pronouncing words different from the written form
L263[10:59:43] <petti> Everyone should
just learn Finnish and be happy.
L264[11:00:28] <Fluburtur> what about
danish
L265[11:00:43] <Fluburtur> maybe I want to
sound like im puking and having a stroke all the time
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L267[11:01:42] <petti> well if you like
that.. go ahead, but it just adds problems :)
L268[11:02:02] <ImperialStarDestroyer> Can
you hold on to planets with the grabbing unit?
L269[11:02:11] <Fluburtur> sadly, no
L270[11:02:28] <Fluburtur> would be handy
to anchor submarines to the ocean floor
L271[11:02:45] <ImperialStarDestroyer> How
can I keep my Gilly drilling rig from floating into orbit?
L272[11:03:08] <ImperialStarDestroyer>
Every time I load a spacecraft on Gilly it bounces like 50
miles
L273[11:04:32] <ImperialStarDestroyer> Has
anyone ever gotten into orbit with the RCS Jetpack on Minimums or
Gilly or Bop or any of the low-g planets?
L274[11:05:07] <petti> sure
L275[11:06:24] <ImperialStarDestroyer> Can
anyone help me with interplanetary transfer manuvers? I really suck
and can really only get to place inside Kerbin’s SOI.
L276[11:06:26] <petti> at least earlier
the suit had around 600 m/s if I recall correctly
L277[11:07:15] <ImperialStarDestroyer> the
EVA suit is overpowered
L278[11:07:53] <petti> quite
L279[11:08:06] <ImperialStarDestroyer> mmm
hhhmmmm
L280[11:08:22] <ImperialStarDestroyer> oh
I gotta go now
L281[11:08:53] <ImperialStarDestroyer> cya
l8r m8r
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L283[11:10:06] <APlayer> What a talkative
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L286[11:39:11] <Pakaran> honestly, I'm
American, and like "aluminium" simply because it matches
the convention used for pretty much every other element isolated
since the Middle Ages.
L287[11:39:37] <Pakaran> (I should say
*metallic* element, unlike the likes of radon)
L289[11:52:01] <kmath> YouTube - TOP 10
STRANGEST RC Aircraft
L290[11:53:00] <Pakaran> how much should I
be concerned about adding Deadly Reentry to my new stockish
game?
L291[11:53:26] <Fluburtur> Draconiator if
there is no contraption from foamie ninja in that video then it is
false and bad
L292[11:53:31] <Althego> the game already
has something like that
L293[11:53:44] <Althego> probably more
configurable in the mod
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L296[11:54:03] <Pakaran> (stockish meaning
otherwise stock scaled, I run GPP, but the only relevant change is
that Kerbin's moons are 'slightly' further out.
L297[11:54:20] <Pakaran> Which really
means a difference of, you know, 10 m/s if I tried to do a direct
entry orbit from either.
L298[11:54:26] <Pakaran> Althego, Ok, so
it'
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L300[11:54:36] <Pakaran> DRE isn't really
a 'difficulty mod' in the modern game?
L301[11:56:35] <Pakaran> Previously, when
playing stockish... the other day I started talking about a craft
designed for tourism+ spacecamp. It was basically a bunch of
hitchhikers and a cockpit in a single stack, about 22 tonnes total
in the on-orbit form, and designed to enter in "backwards
bullet" fashion with a 2.5m heat shield on the back end.
L302[11:57:12] <Althego> that may have
insufficient drag to stop in time
L303[11:57:24] <Pakaran> I had real
issues, with no DRE, regarding the chutes getting too hot or
opening too high (when I staged them in advance, but I don't know
how amendable it would be to fixing by manual opening)
L304[11:57:35] <Pakaran> that was pretty
much the whole issue.
L305[11:57:42] <Pakaran> ended up at mach
2ish around 5-6 km.
L306[11:58:31] <Pakaran> is it worth
unlocking the inflatable 10m heat shield?
L307[11:59:44] <Althego> that is usper
op
L308[11:59:55] <Althego> ideal for eve
aerocapture
L309[12:00:06] <Althego> or for jool
L310[12:00:08] <Pakaran> ah.
L311[12:00:26] <Pakaran> ok, if nothing
else, I can't have tourists lose consciousness.
L312[12:00:41] <Althego> it is heatshield
and airbrake in one
L313[12:00:47] <Pakaran> now, maybe I
could use that and aim for a 47 km peri, shedding velocity over
continental distances, but...
L314[12:00:54] <Pakaran> it also seems...
almost cheaty?
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L316[12:02:11] <Pakaran> Anyhow, the other
two ideas I had in mind were keeping the general in-line design,
but entering the atmosphere with one particular side leading, and
all the chutes and other sensitive bits on the other.
L317[12:02:46] <Pakaran> OR, just push
hard enough on tech to unlock hypersonic flight and a couple other
nodes, and do it with an actual plane.
L318[12:03:00] <Althego> several
solutions: drogue chutes, airbrakes, rotation during reentry
L319[12:04:12] <Pakaran> (or a
rocket-plane without actual jet engines, but still designed to do
lifting entry to whatever extent it needs to reach the runway at
sane horizontal velocity)
L320[12:04:41] <Pakaran> hmm.
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L324[12:10:02] <Althego> are those grooves
a failure or some kind of anti-vortex technique?
L325[12:10:37] <Fluburtur> not really a
failure butit's result of less than perfect cutting
L326[12:10:43] <Fluburtur> but it is not
as bad as it looks
L327[12:19:42] <Pakaran> yeah.
L328[12:20:10] <Pakaran> alumimwithherium
is like tin roofing, when the oxide layer is damaged, it looks
really discolored for a little while.
L329[12:20:15] <Pakaran> it'll fix
itself.
L330[12:23:30] <Mat2ch> petti: I thought
it was called Suomi! ;)
L331[12:24:57] <Pakaran> but, yeah, I'll
go with airbrakes when I get the current career to that
point.
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L347[13:26:37] <Fluburtur> about to do
some CADing, anyone interested in watching?
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L357[13:56:41] <kmath> YouTube - 3 Scary
Movie Themes you should NEVER play in Ragtime!! ?
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L420[18:13:42] <Kdognlog> Oh man, does
everyone here play KSP?
L421[18:13:46] <Kdognlog> Oh everyone is
idle. hm
L422[18:15:16] <Zarthus> you determined
this after 30 seconds?
L423[18:15:41] <Zarthus> we haven't even
achieved faster than light travel yet, how do you expect humans to
have faster than light responses.
L424[18:15:57] <KrazyKrl> Via spooky
action at a distance.
L425[18:16:44] <jeans> I require a minimum
of 80 ms* to respond to external stimuli
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L427[18:16:54] <Kdognlog> Well it just
says everyone is an idler lmao
L428[18:16:54] <jeans> * actual response
time may be longer
L429[18:18:38] <KrazyKrl> My latency is
approx. 80ms textual, 100ms ocular, 150ms conceptual, and another
~350ms to activate snark.
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L432[18:26:16] <Apexseals> not even 30
seconds
L433[18:26:19] <Apexseals> it was what, 3
seconds?
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L439[18:28:13] <Zarthus> i like how this
guy is idling worse than we are
L440[18:28:34] <Kdognlog> supa hard
m8
L441[18:28:47] <Zarthus> you came in
here
L442[18:28:53] <Zarthus> the burden of
being interesting is on you
L443[18:29:06] <Kdognlog> Alright dude
lol
L444[18:29:39] <Zarthus> that's mr. Dude
for you
L445[18:31:36] <jeans> His full name is
The Honourable Mr. Dude Bartholomew Zarthus III, Ph.D
L446[18:32:19] <Zarthus> I don't know why
I'm the third.
L447[18:32:28] <Zarthus> Maybe because the
third time is a charm.
L448[18:32:34] <jeans> Cause there were
two before you obbs
L449[18:32:37] <Zarthus> but i'm
definitely in first place.
L450[18:32:38] <jeans> *obvs
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L457[19:13:46] <Rokker> Zarthus: just
cause ur the 3rd one to exist doesnt mean you arent the 1st place
in achievements
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L459[19:16:32] <KrazyKrl> -1 for
pun.
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