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L5[00:11:49] <cringe> ISS Urine Tank Level:
9% (LOS)
L6[00:13:52] <cringe> Due to an extreme
amount of dust over Perseverance Valley, mission engineers believe
it is unlikely the rover has enough sunlight to charge back up for
at least the next several days. :(
L7[00:14:31] <Althego> but at least the
curiosity high gain antenna is working again
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L9[00:18:14] <cringe> see
L10[00:18:56] <cringe> thats why elon
follows MarsCuriosity and not MarsRovers
L11[00:19:07] <cringe> :(
L12[00:19:36] <cringe> dont forget the
little robots
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L16[00:30:23] <BenjaminK> cringe: Which
rover is this?
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L65[05:29:46] <GlassYuri> my housing
company literally sent me a letter saying "for privacy reasons
we will not keep a copy of your key anymore. note however that we
may kick down your door in an emergency"
L66[05:30:41] <Eddi|zuHause> is there a
japanese version of the GDPR?
L67[05:31:04] <GlassYuri> there probably
should be
L68[05:32:34] <Eddi|zuHause> note that the
pint of the GDPR isn't actually to forbid the use of private data,
but you have to be upfront about how you use it
L69[05:32:40] <Eddi|zuHause> *point
L70[05:38:40] <Mat2ch> GlassYuri: funny.
When I moved here I asked if the housing company keeps a copy of my
key. They declined, too much trouble. Like if something is missing
from my appartment the first question would be: Who has keys to it.
So they have and then the police would tear their offices
apart...
L71[05:39:05] <Mat2ch> *If they'd
have
L72[05:39:38] <GlassYuri> I didn't even
know they had the keys, but then again I didn't read most of the
contract
L73[05:39:56] <Zarthus> it's normal for the
landlord to keep an extra copy in case you lock yourself out
L74[05:40:41] <GlassYuri> I know that I get
kicked out if I'm two months late on payments or commit a crime,
both of which I have miracuously managed to avoid so far
L75[05:41:09] <Mat2ch> Well... my apartment
door is massive.
L76[05:41:12] <GlassYuri> Zarthus, I can't
lock myself out unless I lose the key, door is open unless I lock
it with a key
L77[05:41:35] <Zarthus> That doesn't mean
you can't lose your key
L78[05:43:07] <GlassYuri> my key is
literally the only thing I haven't managed to lose yet
L79[05:43:21] <Zarthus> where do you keep
it once you lock your door?
L80[05:44:08] <Zarthus> i've lost my key
exactly once in all my lifetime, and it was on the way to the store
literally downstairs to my traceback path was easy and i recovered
it fast.
L81[05:44:35] <Zarthus> my backpack got
swapped once which held my keys, but i don't consider it lost
there
L82[05:44:46] <GlassYuri> Zarthus, on a
keychain, in my pocket
L83[05:45:19] <Zarthus> that's how i lost
mine, fel lout as i grabbed my wallet.
L84[05:45:36] <GlassYuri> yeah but it's
linked to my pants
L85[05:45:42] <GlassYuri> haven't lost
those so far
L86[05:45:58] <Zarthus> nothing to link it
to when you're wearing shorts.
L87[05:47:51] <GlassYuri> I don't think I
have anything here that doesn't have belt loops
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L89[06:02:36] <darsie> GlassYuri: Yo mama's
so fat she's wearing the asteroid belt.
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L92[06:13:03] <Mat2ch> darsie: a bit
inappropriate, don't you think?
L93[06:15:26] <Epi> It was inappropriate to
say that was inappropriate ;)
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L95[06:28:55] <darsie> Mat2ch: no, it was
fun.
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L97[06:38:00] <Mat2ch> Ah. Insults are
funny. I see :P
L98[06:44:13] <APlayer> It was a very grey
zone
L99[06:45:00] <APlayer> Like #808080
grey
L100[06:45:04] <Eddi|zuHause> has this
world become so politically correct you can't even make a "yo
mama" joke? man...
L101[06:45:36] <APlayer> Not the world,
but this channel which is supposed to be anyone-friendly
L102[06:47:06] <APlayer> Also, this is
very subjective, hence grey zone
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L105[07:08:12] <Mat2ch> APlayer: I'm
sorry, but you seem to mistake "classy" for political
correct.
L106[07:08:57] <Mat2ch> yo mama jokes are
funny, if done with friends. But if you've got a conversation and
somebody just pops in, makes a not very funny joke, then it's just
not appropriate
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L108[07:15:56] <APlayer> It's somewhere in
between being decent and polite
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L110[07:21:44] <darsie> Mat2ch: I'm sorry
I upset you. GlassYuri, how do you feel about it?
L111[07:22:19] <GlassYuri> I don't
feel
L112[07:22:24] <GlassYuri> I'm a cold
killer robot
L113[07:22:27] <darsie> Heart of glass,
eh?
L114[07:22:34] <darsie> fine
L115[07:27:10] <GlassYuri> I was just
joking, actually I wanted to throw something back at you but
couldn't come up with anything and copying a joke from some site
was too cheap for me
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L117[07:27:38] <GlassYuri> my nickname is
half my previous nickname + half my japanized first name btw
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L119[07:31:36] <GlassYuri> I actually have
another nickname which I really like but only works in
japanese
L120[07:32:29] <GlassYuri> I'm probably
the only one who likes it but I don't care
L121[07:57:06] <darsie> I wanted to load
my last game and flew a Duna mission, but picked #19. Didn't see
#20 after #2. Ohh well, it just was a sentinel survey which gave me
lots of money, science and reputation, all of which I don't really
need. Hmm, reputation does affect what contracts I get, right?
Maybe I'll fly the Duna mission again.
L122[07:57:35] <darsie> Some smarter
numeric order would be nice.
L123[08:10:23] <ve2dmn> I was thinking
about someone commenting yesterday about 'Life finds a way...
except in the heart of stars'
L124[08:10:39] <ve2dmn> Life kind of
depends on the hearts of stars to begin with
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L132[08:28:31] <Epi> speed of light
question- lets say you have a 1km diameter disk travelling just
under the speed of light- you are in the middle of the disk on the
side look away from your direction of travel. By the time the light
from the edge of the disk reaches the center of the disk- lets say
you travelled x meters.. like 10?
L133[08:29:49] <Epi> does that mean there
is a something like a light vacuum in the area you are?
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L135[08:32:26] <UmbralRaptop> Not sure I
understand the question, sketch it out?
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L138[08:36:49] <ve2dmn> Epi: the only
constant is the speed of light. You don't realise it, but your disk
is not round anymore to an outside observer.
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L140[08:37:10] <ve2dmn> Time and space
changes so that the speed of light is constant
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L142[08:40:03] <UmbralRaptop> ^
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L145[08:41:21] <UmbralRaptop> I suppose
red/blue shifting would result in anisotropies in blackbody
emission from the disk, or CMB, depending on choice of reference
frame.
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L148[08:43:02] <Epi> getting my mspaint
on
L149[08:43:17] <Epi> i'm thinking maybe to
you, the disk looks like it's bending
L150[08:45:58] <ve2dmn> It can even break
simultanity
L151[08:46:28] <ve2dmn> To you the 2 event
happens at the same time, but to an outside observer, they happened
at different times
L152[08:46:56] <ve2dmn> I try to
understand it and it melts my brain sometimes
L153[08:47:21] <ve2dmn> "the universe
is not obligated to make sense to you"
L154[08:48:07] <darsie> ve2dmn: But only
if they are at different locations, right? The time of birth can't
be different for the mother and the baby?
L155[08:48:14] <ve2dmn> sorry the quote is
"The Universe is under no obligation to make sense to
you." -- Neil deGrasse Tyson
L156[08:48:31] <Epi> the relativity is
confusing sometimes, maybe the disk can be 1000's of km in diameter
so relativity does not affect it
L157[08:48:36] <ve2dmn> darsie: only to
different observer travelling at different speeds
L158[08:48:52] <darsie> ok
L159[08:49:31] <darsie> But, to both it's
simultaneously. Guess because it's really only one event, not
two.
L160[08:50:25] <Eddi|zuHause>
<ve2dmn> I try to understand it and it melts my brain
sometimes <-- well, it's not that tricky. you just have to lose
the idea that because you OBSERVE them happening at the same time,
they don't necessarily do happen at the same time.
L161[08:50:31] <ve2dmn> yes. The example I
saw had to do with a train going through a tunnel
L162[08:50:52] <Eddi|zuHause> it's like
those perspective illusions
L163[08:51:07] <ve2dmn> Eddi|zuHause: I'm
trying to make a mental model, but I first have to unlearn what I
have learned and it,s hard
L164[08:51:09] <Eddi|zuHause> because you
only see a 2D representation of the 3D object
L165[08:51:15] <darsie> ve2dmn: Like the
tip goes out at the same time as the tail goes in?
L166[08:51:30] <ve2dmn> let me find the
youtube video
L167[08:51:56] <darsie> I've seen a ladder
can fit in a barn smaller than it if it travels fast enough.
L169[08:52:03] <kmath> YouTube -
Relativity Paradox - Sixty Symbols
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L173[08:52:51] <kmath> YouTube - 3d
Optical Perspective Illusion
L174[08:53:04] <ve2dmn> " Trains,
tunnels, muons and giant guillotines - strange things happen when
you travel close to the speed of light. "
L175[08:54:51] <Eddi|zuHause> because your
brain got trained with the idea of "simultaneous", it has
trouble bending to the idea that from a different perspective it
doesn't happen simultaneous
L176[08:55:13] <Eddi|zuHause> so two
things can only happen simultaneously if they also happen in the
same place
L177[08:56:06] <ve2dmn> Eddi|zuHause: I
get it from a logical perspective, but since I have not internalise
the concept completely I can't explain it to someone else without
having to check the math or a reference all the time
L178[08:56:43] <Eddi|zuHause> that gets
easier once you understand quantum mechanics :p
L179[08:56:52] <ve2dmn> I don't
L180[08:57:12] <Eddi|zuHause> (disclaimer:
nobody understands quantum mechanics)
L181[08:58:08] <ve2dmn> I can explain the
logic gates in a CPU, why a Gray Code is better or why SELinux is a
Good Thing(tm), but physics is not my domain
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L183[08:58:50] <Althego> selinux is never
a good thing :)
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L185[08:59:27] <ve2dmn> SElinux is only
bad if you don't master it
L186[08:59:50] <ve2dmn> I never said it
was an easy thing :P
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L188[09:00:46] <Epi> So I guess with the
disk thingy I posted above- you'll see shifted from the things
you're travelling away from, but not be able to see what you're
directly passing
L189[09:04:02] <Eddi|zuHause> Epi: to a
particle approaching earth near the speed of light, the earth looks
basically flat
L190[09:05:43] <Eddi|zuHause> going back
to the optical illusion analogy: it's like you're using a wide
angle lense, that compresses depth
L191[09:08:56] <UmbralRaptop> The disk
will seem normal to anyone on it, but distorted to someone "at
rest" relative to it.
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L193[09:14:42] <ve2dmn> Epi: the world
will be distorted (to you on the disk) and the disk will be
distorted to someone at rest.
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L195[09:15:30] <ve2dmn> It will be VERY
distorted to an outside observer going at the 0.99c in a orthogonal
angle to your own speed
L196[09:15:47] <Eddi|zuHause> that's what
always confused me about special relativity: there seems to be some
dependency on who is moving and who is at "rest", while
that should be irrelevant
L197[09:16:32] <Eddi|zuHause> like in the
twin paradox
L198[09:16:37] <ve2dmn> Eddi|zuHause: That
is the bit that melts my brain, yes
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L200[09:17:53] <Eddi|zuHause> i don't
think anyone could ever resolve that for me in a satisfactory
way
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L202[09:19:13] <Eddi|zuHause> i was told
the twin paradox "breaks" because you need someone that
ACCELERATES from rest to near-speed of light, and then accelerate
the other way. and that can only work within general
relativity
L203[09:20:09] <ve2dmn> Singualrities also
melts my brain
L204[09:20:56] <ve2dmn> dimension 0?
L205[09:21:18] <Eddi|zuHause> that's
because they are always depicted so simplified
L206[09:21:43] <Eddi|zuHause> while the
actual mechanics is terribly complicated and can only make sense in
this complicatedness
L207[09:22:42] <ve2dmn> And if the proton
decays does this means that Neutron will decay too?
L208[09:23:46] <Eddi|zuHause> maybe try to
wrap your mind around mathematical singularities first :p
L209[09:23:52] <ve2dmn> What will happen
to Neutron stars in 10^25 years?
L210[09:23:57] <Eddi|zuHause> as in:
f(z)=1/z on the complex plane
L211[09:26:45] <UmbralRaptop> Neutron
stars contain some protons, so yes (and of course, free neutrons
have a lifetime of ~900 s). Also, minimum proton lifetime is ~10^33
years?
L212[09:28:21] <Eddi|zuHause> just the
concept of 10^25 vs 10^33 years is a thing human brains cannot
actually fathom
L213[09:28:41] <ve2dmn> Eddi|zuHause: I
did that with just 1 million vs 1 billion
L214[09:28:54] <ve2dmn> Can you guess how
long 1 million seconds is?
L215[09:29:17] <Eddi|zuHause> i think
someone asked this question before
L216[09:29:22] <ve2dmn> me
L217[09:29:37] <Eddi|zuHause> as in like
"last year"
L218[09:29:45] <ve2dmn> We have trouble
grasping that... imagine 10^25
L219[09:29:48] <Eddi|zuHause> or, 1
million seconds ago :p
L220[09:30:10] <ve2dmn> If I tell you you
have 1 millions seconds to live, should you worry?
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L222[09:31:03] <UmbralRaptop> Yes
L223[09:31:04] <Eddi|zuHause>
probably
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L225[09:31:15] <Eddi|zuHause> ;wa 1
million seconds in years
L226[09:31:17] <kmath> Eddi|zuHause:
convert 1000000 seconds to years: 0.03171 years
L227[09:31:26] <ve2dmn> try days
L228[09:31:41] <UmbralRaptop> There are
π•10^7 seconds in a year.
L229[09:32:43] <ve2dmn> ;wa 1 million
seconds in days
L230[09:32:44] <kmath> ve2dmn: convert
1000000 seconds to days: 11.57 days
L231[09:32:53] <Eddi|zuHause> ;wa pi*(10^7
seconds)/(1 year)
L232[09:32:54] <kmath> Eddi|zuHause:
pi×(10^7 seconds)/(1 year): 0.9962
L233[09:33:08] <ve2dmn> now, how long do
you think 1 billion seconds is?
L234[09:33:12] <Eddi|zuHause> close enough
i guess :p
L235[09:33:28] <UmbralRaptop> Good chunk
of a lifetime.
L236[09:33:50] <Eddi|zuHause> ve2dmn:
"billion" works differently in my brain than yours
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L238[09:33:58] <Eddi|zuHause>
probably
L239[09:34:02] <ve2dmn> millard
L240[09:34:10] <ve2dmn> milliard*
L241[09:34:14] <UmbralRaptop> I'm young
enough that being told I have a billion seconds to live would worry
me.
L242[09:34:26] <UmbralRaptop> ;wa 1e9 s to
years
L243[09:34:28] <kmath> UmbralRaptop:
convert 1×10^9 seconds to years: 31.71 years
L244[09:35:09] <Eddi|zuHause> well if
"1 million seconds" is "10 days" (ish), then
"1 milliard seconds" is obviously 10000 days
L245[09:35:40] <ve2dmn> yes... but when
people try to guess, even with the prior knowledge, they often get
it wrong
L246[09:35:45] <Eddi|zuHause> so with 3
years being 1000 days, that makes it 30 years
L247[09:36:27] <Eddi|zuHause> it also
doesn't work with money...
L248[09:36:51] <Eddi|zuHause> like
"this 20-year long project to build a train station costs 4Mrd
€"
L249[09:37:05] <ve2dmn> "if you had a
millions penny, how big would it be" if often asked
L250[09:37:11] <Eddi|zuHause> "it's
delayed by 2 years, and now costs 6Mrd €"
L251[09:37:16] *
darsie is 1.5 Gs old.
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L253[09:38:47] <Eddi|zuHause> and it's
completely over once stacking interest rates and inflation come
into play
L254[09:39:24] <UmbralRaptop> ve2dmn: I'm
picturing a pile that could fit on a large desk if stacked
carefully, though weight might be an issue.
L255[09:39:58] <Eddi|zuHause> like
politicians going "how can they demand minimum wage of 10$/h?
i worked for 2$/h as a teenager and that was fine"
L256[09:40:40] <ve2dmn> That is why we
can't have nice things :(
L257[09:41:07] <darsie> When I was a kid a
tramway ticket was 3.5 ATS. Now it's 2.5 EUR.
L258[09:41:23] <UmbralRaptop> ATS?
L259[09:41:28] <darsie> Austrian
Schilling
L260[09:41:42] <Eddi|zuHause> what's the
exchange rate? 12:1?
L261[09:41:42] <UmbralRaptop> Ah
L262[09:41:47] <darsie> 14:1 or so
L263[09:41:53] <ve2dmn> UmbralRaptop:
starting with the idea that 1 penny is at least 1gram.... well do
the math how much weigh is 1 megagram?
L264[09:42:09] <UmbralRaptop> 1
tonne
L265[09:42:14] <ve2dmn> bravo
L266[09:42:27] <Eddi|zuHause> that's
easier for metric units :p
L267[09:42:30] <UmbralRaptop> But I
memorized that because KSP+KER+MJ
L268[09:42:43] <UmbralRaptop>
Eddi|zuHause: so much yes
L269[09:44:08] <Eddi|zuHause> now imagine
4Mrd€ in 10€ bills?
L270[09:44:47] <darsie> If you speak
English I suggest you use billion instead of Miliarde.
L271[09:45:08] <Eddi|zuHause> you can
suggest that
L272[09:45:14] <darsie> obviously :)
L273[09:45:19] <Eddi|zuHause> but i don't
have to listen to it :p
L274[09:45:23] <UmbralRaptop> Heh
L275[09:45:26] <darsie> But you did
:).
L276[09:45:58] <Eddi|zuHause> there is a
difference between "hear" and "listen to"
:p
L277[09:46:11] <ve2dmn> or just do like do
here: GigaDollars
L278[09:46:44] <darsie> min: milli
inch
L279[09:47:11] <Eddi|zuHause> do they make
GigaDollar bills?
L280[09:47:16] <ve2dmn> No
L281[09:47:38] <darsie> Yes, in Zimbabwe
:)
L282[09:47:39] <ve2dmn> But the English
media doesn't bother doing that. Only the french one does
L283[09:47:40] <UmbralRaptop> hectodollar
bills are a thing, though.
L284[09:47:46] <darsie> Well, they
did.
L285[09:48:03] <ve2dmn> I have a 1
trillion dollar bill from Zimbabwe
L286[09:48:09] <UmbralRaptop> darsie:
aaaaaaaaa! not mils!
L287[09:48:08] <Eddi|zuHause> i was
wondering how the billion/milliard thing is handled in quebec
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L290[09:48:22] <ve2dmn> Eddi|zuHause: it's
badly handled
L291[09:48:32] <UmbralRaptop> Well, that
was a fast bounce.
L292[09:49:24] <Eddi|zuHause> well, other
countries had hyperinflations in the past
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L294[09:49:26] <ve2dmn> And everything had
to follow either one of , often, 3 different standards
L295[09:50:12] <ve2dmn> Like dates. The
world follows either YYYY-MM-DD, DD-MM-YYYY or MM-DD-YYYY. We do
all 3
L296[09:50:17] <darsie> I want a 100
trillion Zimbabwe dollar bill, but they are too expensive.
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L299[09:51:06] <ve2dmn> To the point where
it's not written in text... like 08 MR 2018
L301[09:52:12] <ve2dmn> And I'm (mostly)
fluent in both Metric and Imperial, but not US customary
units
L302[09:52:21] <ve2dmn> because UK pint !=
Us pint
L303[09:52:43] <Althego> imperial is
cancer
L304[09:52:52] <ve2dmn> there's also the
'metric pint'
L305[09:53:05] <Eddi|zuHause> we use a
"metric pound" here
L306[09:53:06] <UmbralRaptop> "A pint
is a pound the world around" is a blatant lie.
L307[09:53:06] <ve2dmn> And that's just
for beer
L308[09:53:32] <Eddi|zuHause> where 1
pound = 1/2 kg
L309[09:53:39] <UmbralRaptop> ve2dmn: 355
ml, 500 ml, or something else?
L310[09:54:22] <ve2dmn> 500ml... or 50cl
in Europe
L311[09:54:46] <Eddi|zuHause> beer just
comes in "large" and "small" here (well,
outside of Okoberfest)
L312[09:54:54] <ve2dmn> 355ml is the soft
drink/soda/pop/fizz/coke cans
L313[09:55:04] <Althego> where it becomes
huge?
L314[09:55:05] <Eddi|zuHause> where the
exact values of "large" and "small" differ
between regions
L315[09:55:38] <ve2dmn> during the fest
it's 'not large enough' and 'maybe large enough' ?
L316[09:56:25] <Eddi|zuHause> like in
cologne, a "small" beer will probably be 0,2l, where in
other regions it would be more like 0,3l
L317[09:56:38] <darsie> Starbucks 'small'
latte is stupidly large.
L318[09:56:54] <ve2dmn> US size are large
to begin with
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L320[09:58:03] <Eddi|zuHause> also, in
cologne the beer probably has less alcohol concentration in it than
elsewhere
L321[09:58:27] <ve2dmn> Eddi|zuHause: what
is considered 'low'? 8% ?
L322[09:58:59] <Eddi|zuHause> if you pick
a random beer, i'd expect it to have like 5%
L323[09:59:12] <Eddi|zuHause> in cologne
it might be half that
L324[09:59:26] <Eddi|zuHause> in czechia,
double :p
L325[09:59:31] <ve2dmn> ... what is wrong
with them?
L326[10:00:01] <Eddi|zuHause> the cologne
people? no clue
L327[10:00:08] <Eddi|zuHause> the czechs
are probably fine :p
L328[10:01:18] <Eddi|zuHause> wikipedia
alledges cologne beer has 4,8%
L329[10:01:24] <ve2dmn> I need to tour
Europe someday.
L330[10:01:48] <ve2dmn> Try French Wine,
Belgium fries, German beer, UK... hum... something
L331[10:02:19] <Althego> italian?
L332[10:02:26] <Eddi|zuHause> i think you
can skip UK, it won't be in europe much longer :p
L333[10:02:35] <Althego> never was
L334[10:02:41] <Althego> they call europe
the continent :)
L335[10:02:53] <UmbralRaptop> UK
curry?
L336[10:02:57] <Althego> hehe
L337[10:03:06] <Eddi|zuHause> go easy on
the Palinka in hungary :p
L338[10:03:09] <ve2dmn> Althego: and for
the Americans, we are something refered to as 'overseas'
L339[10:03:17] <Althego> lol
L340[10:03:32] <APlayer> "The other
land"
L341[10:03:35] <UmbralRaptop> Great Lakes,
close enough.
L342[10:03:41] <ve2dmn> I guess the great
lakes *could* be
L343[10:04:50] <Eddi|zuHause> ve2dmn: to
the americans, canada is this remote "far north" thing,
while i would bet you considerable amount of money that you are
more southern than me right now
L344[10:05:36] <APlayer> Germany are the
snow people (with beer), how did you not know?
L345[10:05:56] <snow> I'm a swampgerman,
thankyouverymuch
L346[10:06:01] <Althego> hehe
L347[10:06:07] <Althego> germans dont
really see snow
L348[10:06:10] <UmbralRaptop> heh
L349[10:06:12] <Althego> finnish people
maybe
L350[10:06:23] <ve2dmn> You don't even
have winter
L351[10:06:26] <Eddi|zuHause> well, there
used to be more snow in the 80s
L352[10:06:36] <Althego> even here, there
was barely any snow
L353[10:06:42] <Althego> this winter
L354[10:06:47] <Althego> and not really
much in the last decade
L355[10:06:49] <Eddi|zuHause> anyway, i'm
around 51.5° north
L356[10:07:41] <ve2dmn> Eddi|zuHause: I
mean, I took a picture of the 50N marker because we were much more
north then I had ever been
L357[10:08:01] <UmbralRaptop> ;wa Juneau
latitude
L358[10:08:02] <kmath> UmbralRaptop:
Juneau, Alaska->latitude: 58° 22' 22"N
L359[10:08:18] <ve2dmn> In that region,
99% of the tree are conifers
L360[10:08:20] <UmbralRaptop> okay, not
quite Alaska level north.
L361[10:09:19] <APlayer> North-est I ever
visited was 64° or so
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L363[10:09:29] <Eddi|zuHause> well, the
most northern place that i probably was is around 54.5°N
L364[10:09:39] <Eddi|zuHause> and there's
a lot more north beyond that
L365[10:09:58] <Eddi|zuHause> like, that's
the southernmost tip of denmark
L367[10:11:06] <Althego> hehe
L368[10:11:08] <Althego> the road s
ign
L369[10:11:43] <ve2dmn> Good luck finding
an actual house within 10km of that sign (and no a summer
place)
L370[10:11:50] <ve2dmn> not*
L371[10:12:30] <ve2dmn> actually, I think
the nearest village must be 20-30km away
L372[10:13:07] <APlayer> How is there
Google Streetview in the middle of nowhere?
L373[10:13:41] <ve2dmn> Don't ask me
L374[10:13:46] <Althego> they sent
somebody there
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L376[10:13:56] <Althego> there is
streetview for places where you can get only onfoot
L377[10:14:01] <Althego> yes, the guy
takes the camera
L378[10:14:16] <ve2dmn> The nerest gas
station to that place is about 20km... the next one is more then
100km
L379[10:15:19] <APlayer> *shock*
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L381[10:15:35] <ve2dmn> It would take me
close to 10h by car to get there from where I am
L382[10:15:47] <ve2dmn> And I haven't left
the province yet
L383[10:16:25] <ve2dmn> Streetview stop at
the Manic-5 Hydro-electric dam that is further north
L384[10:16:41] <ve2dmn> it's easy to spot,
you can see the reservoir FROM SPACE
L385[10:17:01] <ve2dmn> it's that round
thing further north
L386[10:19:11] <ve2dmn> The only reason
people live there is mining , wood or the electricty dams
L387[10:19:58] <ve2dmn> or... being a
retiree I suposse
L388[10:20:15] <Eddi|zuHause> ve2dmn: the
geographic center of EU is around 50°N
L389[10:20:49] <ve2dmn> 50% of the
Canadian population is below the 49N
L390[10:21:05] <Eddi|zuHause> i haven't
seen any hard data on the population center
L391[10:21:10] <Althego> they are also
below average :)
L392[10:21:15] <darsie> Eddi|zuHause: Is
that the average of its maximum latitudes?
L393[10:21:51] <darsie> most
extreme*
L394[10:22:18] <Eddi|zuHause> darsie: i
imagine they calculated the center points of each country, and then
weighted those by the country area, to get a weighted average
L395[10:22:33] <Eddi|zuHause> darsie: but
i assume there is some bureaucracy you can go through to get the
actual method they used
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L397[10:22:55] <BadRocketsCo> o/
L398[10:22:59] <Eddi|zuHause> they put a
memorial place at that point
L399[10:23:14] <Eddi|zuHause> which they
have to move every time a new country joins (or an old one
leaves)
L400[10:23:17] <darsie> Why would
bureaucrats calculate such a useless thing?
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L402[10:24:05] <darsie> But the center
change every time a country joins/leaves.
L403[10:24:09] <Eddi|zuHause> yes
L404[10:24:14] <ve2dmn> Because the
politicians asked them to?
L405[10:25:04] <Eddi|zuHause>
https://www.google.de/maps/place/EU+Mittelpunkt/@50.1146811,9.2511682,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m8!1e2!3m6!1sAF1QipPINQPhdLKrztBH3Z9V3azLxXzm52jGUZsbIemP!2e10!3e12!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipPINQPhdLKrztBH3Z9V3azLxXzm52jGUZsbIemP%3Dw203-h134-k-no!7i4512!8i3000!4m5!3m4!1s0x47bd304d9c7c09f1:0xf315213c0bee3b7d!8m2!3d50.1133876!4d9.2521875
L406[10:25:13] <Eddi|zuHause> long url is
long
L407[10:26:45] <darsie> Kerbin doesn't
have tides.
L408[10:27:08] <Althego> neither does the
flat earth (because water is flat and finds its level)
L409[10:27:46] <snow> I don't understand
that flat earthers don't seem to appreciate how lucky we are that
the Earth isn't vertical
L410[10:27:51] <Eddi|zuHause> so what
conspiracy do flat earthers think creates the tides then?
L411[10:28:04] <Althego> they keep silent
about them
L412[10:28:18] <Althego> tide goes in,
tideo goes out, you cant esplain that :)
L413[10:28:23] <ve2dmn> ^
L414[10:28:35] <darsie> They correlate
with teh Moon.
L415[10:28:48] <darsie> and the sun
L416[10:29:15] <APlayer> So, Google Earth
supports some moons and planets, and also a street view like tour
of the ISS... And man, that thing is a MESS
L417[10:29:28] <APlayer> (And this is not
a sneaky NASA acronym)
L418[10:29:59] <Althego> nowhere near what
mir was towards the end
L419[10:30:10] <APlayer> How does it even
work? There is stuff attached to every single surface
L420[10:30:10] <ve2dmn> It has to be a
mess: everything floats away all the time
L421[10:30:34] <BadRocketsCo> I mean, ISS
is like 20 years old by now. It's been doing good as is
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L423[10:30:57] <Eddi|zuHause> my house is
also around 20 years old, and it's also a mess
L424[10:31:06] <BadRocketsCo> Heh, there
you go
L425[10:31:18] <BadRocketsCo> Now imagine
that your house would be in SPACE
L426[10:31:24] <Eddi|zuHause> therefore,
gravity is a lie
L427[10:31:58] <Eddi|zuHause> it's all
dipols and van der waals forces
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L429[10:32:07] <APlayer> Space stuff is
supposed to be planned to the very Earth-reference frame 3D space
coordinate where you're supposed to leave your screwdriver afloat
while you grab the next screw
L430[10:32:12] <darsie> How do polar
orbits work on a flat Earth?
L431[10:32:35] <Althego> they dont
L432[10:32:37] <APlayer> darsie: Answer me
that. How do orbits work on a flat Earth?
L433[10:32:40] <Althego> because space
isnt real
L434[10:32:46] <Althego> rockets cant push
against vacuum
L435[10:32:49] <Althego> and they hit the
dome
L436[10:32:56] <BadRocketsCo> Heh
L437[10:33:07] <Althego> iss is projected
from spy planes
L438[10:33:23] <BadRocketsCo> You'd think
you'd notice 100tons of rocket falling back to earth
L439[10:33:31] <BadRocketsCo> Or
exploding
L440[10:33:36] <BadRocketsCo> Or
both
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L443[10:34:14] <Althego> note that sun
needs to be a spotlight with changing shape
L444[10:35:19] <Eddi|zuHause> this whole
thing is contradictory on so many sides...
L445[10:35:21] <ve2dmn> I say we send the
Flat earthers to colonize Venus
L446[10:35:50] <ve2dmn> Like in 'the
marching morons'
L447[10:35:52] <BadRocketsCo> ve2dmn:
death is just a theory
L448[10:35:59] <darsie> ve2dmn: How could
you colonize a hole in the sky?
L449[10:36:58] <Eddi|zuHause> what i
always wanted to ask a flat earther: "if gravity is 'just a
theory', why don't you step outside this window?"
L450[10:37:06] <ve2dmn> darsie: you send
them there to gather samples to prove they are right?
L452[10:37:38] <Althego> the worst is:
there is no gravity, it is denisty
L453[10:37:45] <Althego> (and
buooyancy)
L454[10:37:51] <APlayer> Notice stray
laptops on the ceiling
L455[10:37:53] <BadRocketsCo> Sooo,
talking of rockets (that are things that obviously don't work irl
and KSP is just a globe earth propaganda game)
https://imgur.com/a/sczWp4b
L456[10:38:13] <darsie> The sun and moon
must have a very low density to float in the atmosphere.
L457[10:38:28] <Althego> there is no
ceiling
L458[10:38:35] <Althego> just a ceiling
cat
L459[10:39:03] <ve2dmn> aren't we in the
Matrix anyway?
L460[10:39:09] <Althego> probably
L461[10:39:24] <darsie> Let's hack out of
it.
L462[10:39:29] <Althego> there must be
more simulated realities than real ones
L463[10:39:42] <darsie> Elon will get us
out.
L464[10:39:46] <ve2dmn> ^
L465[10:39:54] <ve2dmn> Praise the
son!
L466[10:40:02] <BadRocketsCo> Elon is
actualy the dude that built the simulation in the first place
L467[10:40:19] <BadRocketsCo> Elon Musk is
just a theory
L468[10:42:39] <BadRocketsCo> I love when
I shut the entire chat up...
L469[10:43:05] <darsie> I can jetpack from
Mun to orbit. Has anyone ever landed by jetpack there?
L470[10:44:03] <APlayer> I may have done
it once
L471[10:44:06] <APlayer> Not sure
L472[10:44:20] <darsie> k
L473[10:44:34] <ve2dmn> Much easier on
Minmus. never tried on the Mun
L474[10:45:08] <darsie> Yeah, you can get
from Minmus down to Kerbin with a jetpcak.
L475[10:45:21] <darsie> IIRC
L476[10:45:27] <darsie> ahh, no. Too
hot.
L477[10:45:34] <darsie> entry
L478[10:45:49] <APlayer> Definitely landed
and orbited Minmus by Jetpack
L479[10:45:55] <Althego> probably not too
hot with a high enough periapsis
L480[10:46:33] <darsie> No, you need 3
jetpack fuel to decelerate enough so you don't burn up in Kerbin's
atmosphere.
L481[10:46:34] <Eddi|zuHause> somehow my
brain always reads "Minimus"
L482[10:47:26] <darsie> You could do it
with an empty capsule in Kerbin orbit to refill the jetpack.
L483[10:47:54] <Althego> why is it not
minimun?
L484[10:48:00] <Eddi|zuHause> how do you
align your orbit with the capsule?
L485[10:48:10] <darsie> Eddi|zuHause:
jetpack
L486[10:48:34] <ve2dmn> Eddi|zuHause: you
push the capsule around and land in it
L487[10:48:35] <darsie> Probably tricky
without maneuver nodes.
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L489[10:48:43] <Eddi|zuHause> also, do
kerbals come with chutes nowadays?
L490[10:48:57] <darsie> Some. With 3
stars, but I've had ones with less stars.
L491[10:49:11] <Eddi|zuHause> i've never
had 3 stars
L492[10:49:13] <darsie> But you don't need
a chute.
L493[10:49:57] <darsie> Just a little bit
of fuel to turn horizontal with LMB and splash down.
L494[10:50:27] <darsie> Or hit a slope.
Flat ground doesn't work.
L495[10:50:40] <Althego> do kerbals have
some lift?
L496[10:50:46] <darsie> They had.
L497[10:51:07] <ve2dmn> Someone survive
jumping off a plane without a parachute by hiting a slope, but I
would not recommend it
L498[10:51:16] <darsie> You could fly some
distance depending on attitude.
L499[10:51:48] <APlayer> Hah, I found a
baseball cap on the ISS
L500[10:51:54] <sandbox> not like they had
much of a choice
L501[10:52:06] <darsie> conifers work,
too.
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L503[10:52:52] <Eddi|zuHause> even if you
technically "survive", it doesn't sound healthy
L504[10:52:58] <darsie> nah
L505[10:53:31] <darsie> Lots of boxes
would probably work, too. Some protective clothing
recommended.
L506[10:53:44] <darsie> A skidiver fell
into a net without chute.
L507[10:53:52] <darsie> sky*
L508[10:57:33] <Eddi|zuHause> a Ski-Diver
sounds like a weird combination
L509[10:58:10] <darsie> I wonder if
falling right into Niagara falls would work. The water splashing
down creates lots of bubbles, making the impact
"soft".
L510[11:02:00] <darsie> Hmm, I guess you
could switch to the capsule in Kerbin orbit for rendezvous
planning. Would it work without EC?
L511[11:04:18] <darsie> Well, with a
similar orbit you would eventually end up near the capsule
enough.
L512[11:04:19] <ve2dmn> darsie: not a lot
of people survives the falls to begin with
L513[11:04:28] <darsie> yeah
L514[11:04:40] <darsie> Niagara or air
plane falls?
L515[11:04:45] <darsie> both, I guess
:).
L516[11:04:52] <ve2dmn> 'yes'
L517[11:05:40] <Althego> hehe
L518[11:05:43] <Althego> you always reply
yes
L519[11:05:48] <Althego> to these
questions
L520[11:06:17] <ve2dmn> no
L521[11:06:59] <Althego> this wasnt a
question, so the statement is still correct
L522[11:07:00] <ve2dmn> (only when it's
funnier)
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L533[11:48:12] <Fluburtur> I got the ants
out
L534[11:49:14] <Althego> who let the ants
out?
L535[11:49:25] <Fluburtur> the garden
hose
L536[11:49:50] <Althego> said it because
of the lyrics
L537[11:50:11] <Fluburtur> I know
L538[11:56:54] <Fluburtur> I also cleaned
the whole plane with the hose
L539[11:57:00] <Fluburtur> some tape fell
off but it's not a problem
L540[11:57:54] <Fluburtur> im actually
amazed the wings stayed on the plane
L541[11:58:04] <Fluburtur> because they
were only held by wood glue and some tape
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L546[12:19:25] <Fluburtur> yeah
L547[12:19:55] <Mat2ch> so, you're
rebuilding the Canadair?
L548[12:20:02] <Fluburtur> nah
L549[12:20:16] <Fluburtur> just making it
looks nice so I can give it to my uncle so he can put it in his
museum
L550[12:20:42] <Fluburtur> I would need to
change the wings and tail of it to make airworthy again and too
lazy for that
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L552[12:23:28] <Mat2ch> Oh no, you said
it
L553[12:23:33] <Mat2ch> the magic
word
L554[12:23:50] <Fluburtur> whoops
L555[12:23:52] <Althego> argh
L556[12:23:55] <Althego> what have uyou
done
L557[12:24:05] <Fluburtur> but it is
better than the crazy guy's one
L558[12:24:14] <Fluburtur> for a few
reasons, one I can actually go to it
L559[12:24:21] <Fluburtur> and old cool
bikes
L560[12:25:49] <Mat2ch> what kind of
<forbiddend word> is it?
L561[12:25:54] <Mat2ch> What does it
display usually?
L562[12:25:57] <Althego> no
L563[12:25:59] <Althego> dont say it
L564[12:26:04] <Althego> starts with an
m
L565[12:26:07] <Althego> ends with an
m
L566[12:26:22] <Althego> useu in the
middle
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L570[12:33:33] <kmath> YouTube - NASA JPL
Live
L571[12:33:38] <Althego> about dust
storms
L572[12:34:58] *
darsie had little fuel left but intentionally landed hard on Minmus
so the engine exploded and so Jeb must Jetpack back
home.
L573[12:36:13] <Althego> dialed tau up to
eleven :)
L575[12:43:43] <Althego> not the bees's
knees :)
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L577[12:43:56] <Althego> hmm, one s too
many
L578[12:46:44] <Althego> anyway i am
afraid not even opportunity can survive this
L579[12:47:06] <Fluburtur> next probe
better have wipers
L580[12:47:18] <Althego> nope
L581[12:47:21] <Althego> insight
L582[12:47:50] <Althego> then probably
mars 2020? i dont know about exomars date
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L585[12:50:26] <ve2dmn> sad
L586[12:51:21] <Althego> hmm the guy just
said the predicted steady state temperature is inside the design
limit
L587[12:51:30] <Althego> -38C
L588[12:51:48] <Althego> while it can
quite tolerate -40, and can go down to -55
L589[12:52:15] <ve2dmn> Can they overclock
the poor rover?
L590[12:52:40] <Althego> they do use the
cpu to heat it
L591[12:52:48] <Althego> or rather its
general power consumption
L592[12:53:13] <Althego> but at this point
it is in power saving mode and will only wake up once in a while to
check the battery level
L593[12:53:39] <Althego> if even the clock
fails it will set automatic timers to wake it up nonetheless
L594[12:53:48] <ve2dmn> So if it dies,
it's not by a fault of its' own?
L595[12:54:34] <Althego> yes
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L597[12:54:40] <Althego> it can die
because of battery failure
L598[12:54:58] <ve2dmn> No, I mean, the
weather is to blame in this case...
L599[12:55:00] <Althego> but spirit had a
similar storm in the winter, while now it is almost summer or
something
L600[12:55:33] <ve2dmn> Mars has
seasons?
L601[12:55:38] <Althego> yes
L602[12:55:48] <Althego> no water cycle
though
L603[12:55:55] <ve2dmn> I had the
impression it has 1 mode: too cold to care
L604[12:56:07] <Althego> but there is
seasonal temperature change and seasonal storms
L605[12:56:13] <Fluburtur> it can get
almost warm enough to be livable
L606[12:56:18] <ve2dmn> it's not from
tilt?
L607[12:56:25] <Althego> yes, in the
summer near the surface it can be above zero
L608[12:56:27] <Fluburtur> anyways, time
to eat
L609[12:58:35] <ve2dmn> The season chnages
comes from tilt or from Ap vs Pe ?
L610[12:58:49] <Althego> i think it is
because of the distance from the sun
L611[12:58:59] <Althego> mars is a bit
more elliptic than earth
L612[13:00:34] <Althego> hmm, it seems it
has double seasons, because of tilt and because of distance
L613[13:01:38] <ve2dmn> ... I was gonna
make a double rainbow reference, but there are no rainbow on
mars
L614[13:02:11] <Althego> even if there is
no rainbow, there must be something similar because of the
fust
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L616[13:02:31] <Althego> halo or whatever
it is called
L617[13:03:53] <Althego> i guess this dust
storm is good for curiosity, because it makes the weather a bit
warmer. and also if it becomes completly dark at least they can
always make actual color pictures because no red lighting
L618[13:04:59] <ve2dmn> bad for solar
panels, but big radioactive decay power source == don't care?
L619[13:05:16] <Althego> not even dont
care, it may be better
L620[13:05:21] <Althego> less energy going
to heating
L621[13:05:30] <Althego> so more remains
for actions
L622[13:06:18] <Althego> and normally they
can make true color pictures during the night by using some led
light, but if it becomes completely dark they can do that
anytime
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L627[13:10:37] <ve2dmn> I just hope we
didn't contaminate mars with tadigrades or bacterium
L628[13:11:09] <Althego> tardigrades?
unlikely. they cant really live there. they can survive. for a
while. but cant live
L629[13:11:16] <Althego> bacteria? might
be possible
L630[13:11:30] <ve2dmn> because... Life
finds a way. In boreholes deeps at 100C, in the deeps of the ocean,
in the hearts of volcanoes, under a mile of ice, in -40C, in a
nulear reactor,... just not other other planets yet...
L631[13:11:51] <Althego> i think if there
was life there, it is still there
L632[13:12:22] <Althego> probably chemo
synthesizing under the surface
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L634[13:12:47] <ve2dmn> We might find that
most of it died off and only bactria remains
L635[13:13:02] <Althego> if there was
anything else
L636[13:13:20] <Althego> mars was warm and
wet billions of years ago, but it also dired some billions
ago
L637[13:13:32] <Althego> at that time
window we had single celled organisms, so probably it had too
L638[13:13:47] <Althego> if not in other
way, just by infection
L639[13:13:53] <ve2dmn> at what time did
the moon formed?
L640[13:14:03] <Althego> very early
L641[13:14:15] <ve2dmn> ok, so before
anything was there really
L642[13:14:16] <Eddi|zuHause> probably
before life happened
L643[13:15:06] <ve2dmn> If there *was* a
civilization a billion year ago, what kind of trace would it
leave?
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L645[13:15:16] <Althego> only indirect
traces
L646[13:15:46] <Althego> didnt scott have
a video on this not long ago?
L647[13:16:03] <ve2dmn> yes, but I don't
remember the details...
L648[13:16:40] <ve2dmn> only the mental
exercise of 'if there was something here before the moon was formed
by a collision, how would we know'
L649[13:17:14] <ve2dmn> And the answer is
not 'we would find a tesla in orbit around the sun'
L650[13:17:25] <ve2dmn> Although that
would be cool
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L653[13:18:05] <Althego> we would know
because of the black knight satellite the annunakis left here
:)
L654[13:18:24] <Althego> ok, it was not
the annunakis in the narrative, but it sounded better like
ths
L655[13:19:20] <ve2dmn> Or the SCP-wiki
spaceship in orbit? the one with 70 different languages?
L656[13:19:33] <Althego> i dont follow
that
L657[13:19:34] <Fluburtur> I like this
one
L658[13:19:38] <Fluburtur> one of my
fav
L659[13:20:01] <ve2dmn> Althego: that one
is worth a read IMHO
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L663[13:33:23] <Althego> hah it is
over
L665[13:33:39] <kmath> YouTube - Jurassic
World Evolution #1 - Goat Valley
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L668[13:36:26] <Althego> i really had to
go towards the end
L669[13:36:42] <Althego> zurek?
L670[13:37:04] <UmbralRaptop> Person's
name?
L671[13:38:12] <Althego> no vulcan
names
L672[13:40:35] <darsie> Jeb is sick. He's
in orbit around Kerbin and is not activating the jetpack. When I
load the game the jetpack is active, but doesn't take new
attitudes, only thrusting.
L673[13:40:51] <darsie> I tried change of
scenery and restarting.
L674[13:40:55] <Althego> s?
L675[13:41:00] <Althego> sas?
L676[13:41:01] <Fluburtur> throw a
spaceshit at him
L677[13:41:30] <darsie> sas is lit
L678[13:41:39] <Althego> strange
L679[13:41:45] <darsie> Hands
sideways.
L680[13:41:48] <darsie> not on
controls
L681[13:42:02] <Althego> does that
normally when rcs is not on
L682[13:42:21] <Althego> but sometimes if
they are hit, kerbals can get in this stunned state
L683[13:42:24] <Althego> at least they
used to
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L687[13:44:19] <Althego> i was waiting for
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L688[13:44:19] <Fluburtur> uh
L689[13:44:38] <Fluburtur> uh ok
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L691[13:44:49] <Fluburtur> can't keynoard,
sorry
L692[13:44:54] <Fluburtur> you see?
L693[13:45:06] <darsie> Hmm, jetpack works
now, had the wrong keyboard layout. But when I disable RCS it won't
enable again.
L694[13:47:59] <Althego> how would a
kerbal superhero comic/story work?
L695[13:48:04] <Althego> they are already
like uperheroes
L696[13:48:24] <Althego> cant imagine them
change into the secert alter ego that is more awesome than they are
:)
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L711[14:42:56] <Althego> what there was no
wintergatan video
L712[14:52:55] <ve2dmn> Anyone played
Xenonauts?
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L714[14:59:24] <ve2dmn> because I just got
an email about info on Xenonauts 2
L715[15:06:11] <Deddly> ve2dmn, is it a
sequel or a stand-alone game?
L716[15:06:20] <ve2dmn> Stand-alone
L717[15:06:27] <Zarthus> isn't that both
the same.
L718[15:06:30] <Zarthus> a sequel being a
standalone?
L719[15:06:41] <ve2dmn> It's the same
concept, but with a different story and mechanism
L720[15:07:18] <Deddly> Zarthus, I mean if
I've never played before, can I (and should I?) jump straight in at
number 2?
L721[15:07:44] <ve2dmn> Specifically, the
global stage is different: the aliens have landed near the poles
and the armies of the world are there to aid you or something
L722[15:08:29] <ve2dmn> But if you give
too much tech to your allies, the ennemies will develop
counter-measures faster
L723[15:08:41] <Deddly> $25 for the
original Xenonauts seems a little steep
L724[15:09:21] <ve2dmn> So you can arm
them with lasers to push back the ennemis and reclaim territory,
but your next fight will probably be harder
L725[15:09:54] <ve2dmn> it's a good game.
Watch the videos by scott manley
L726[15:10:11] <ve2dmn> close to the
original DOS xcom
L727[15:10:59] <Deddly> I did follow Scott
Manley's playthrough
L728[15:11:21] <ve2dmn> there's also
openxcom
L729[15:12:11] <Deddly> Oh, cool
L730[15:13:07] <ve2dmn> " the
Kickstarter for Xenonauts-2 will be launching on Wednesday 20 June
at 14:00 GMT / UTC."
L731[15:13:20] <ve2dmn> Goldhawk ran out
of money :D
L732[15:18:03] <Deddly> If I've never
played any of the games, what should I look into?
L733[15:18:22] <ve2dmn> depends... do you
want more action or more thinking?
L734[15:18:43] <Deddly> Probably
thinking
L735[15:19:12] <ve2dmn> Then Xenonauts is
a good one, but I would start with OpenXCom since it's free and you
can't beat that price
L736[15:20:11] <ve2dmn> The new, rebooted,
XCOM is real good, but it's a bit more flashy graphics and action
sequency and a tiny bit less tactics
L737[15:21:14] <Deddly> OpenXcom requires
the original files, which I don't have because I neve owned the
game
L738[15:21:23] <ve2dmn> In the end, they
are all worth playing IMHO
L739[15:22:07] <Deddly> Is there anything
for Android? I have some credit in the Play store I'd be happy to
use
L740[15:22:20] <ve2dmn> Not that I know
of
L742[15:25:57] <ve2dmn> it's on sale for
2CDN (for me)
L743[15:26:41] <Deddly> What's that, the
original?
L744[15:26:53] <ve2dmn> yes
L745[15:27:37] <Deddly> Hmm. I didn't know
it was still available
L746[15:27:51] <Rolf> gog was great on
saving great many games
L747[15:28:03] <Rolf> some games was even
fixed on cpu cycle/timer thing
L748[15:28:29] <ve2dmn> Gog was 'Good Old
Games' before being just 'gog'
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L750[15:28:53] <Deddly> Thanks for that
link
L751[15:30:13] <ve2dmn> I don't have an
extra key for Xenonauts or else I might have offered that
L752[15:31:26] *
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over from rescuing someone and jetpacked down to
Kerbin.
L753[15:31:39] <darsie> With
aerobraking.
L754[15:32:07] <Deddly> I remember once
having a game called "UFO: Enemy unclothed", which was of
course a parody using similar game mechanics where you have to
catch flashers
L755[15:32:58] <Deddly> darsie, not bad!
That's the current official challenge, I believe
L756[15:36:49] <Deddly> Seeyas
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L778[17:40:27] <Eddi|zuHause> <Rolf>
some games was even fixed on cpu cycle/timer thing <-- that can
be handled with the right dosbox config
L779[17:54:19] <Eddi|zuHause>
<Althego> what there was no wintergatan video <- there is
now
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L781[17:58:44] <GuestBanana> hey
everyone
L782[17:59:00] <GuestBanana> y'all ever
heard of this group named Fleming and John
L783[17:59:47] <GuestBanana> pretty good,
if you ask me
L784[17:59:51] <Eddi|zuHause> no
L785[17:59:57] <KrazyKrl> wait, the guy
that created james bond and that guy from the beatles?
L786[18:00:23] <GuestBanana> lol no
L787[18:00:31] <GuestBanana> It's from the
90's
L788[18:00:39] <KrazyKrl> like pogs?
L789[18:00:51] <GuestBanana> I don't
know
L790[18:00:58] <GuestBanana> I didn't grow
up in the 90's
L792[18:01:46] <GuestBanana> they only
made two albums
L793[18:02:17] <KrazyKrl> i've heard some
of this, but i never bothered to look it up; lol.
L794[18:02:23] <Eddi|zuHause> "this
video is not available in your country"
L795[18:03:20] <GuestBanana> Eddi|zuHause
where are you from
L796[18:03:41] <GuestBanana> it's fine in
the good old US of A
L797[18:04:09] <KrazyKrl> You need the
proper IEEE spec for your country. Please run a compatable country
to watch this video.
L798[18:04:55] <Eddi|zuHause> GuestBanana:
i'm from the country that pushed "this video is not
available" to the extreme
L799[18:05:04] <KrazyKrl> radical.
L800[18:05:29] <Eddi|zuHause> seriously, a
few years ago, practically every music video was unavailable
L801[18:05:49] <GuestBanana> Germany? IDK
where you are
L802[18:06:09] <Eddi|zuHause> yes
L803[18:06:37] <GuestBanana> wow, first
try
L804[18:06:49] <GuestBanana> see,
America's great
L805[18:06:58] <KrazyKrl> Not really a
"wow" more like "a tragedy"
L806[18:06:58] <GuestBanana> you even get
FREEDOM(TM) online
L807[18:07:08] <Eddi|zuHause> well, the
signs are there if you know how to read them
L808[18:07:17] <GuestBanana> I just saw
"zu"
L809[18:07:28] <GuestBanana> I'm pretty
sure I have Germanic heratige
L810[18:07:40] <GuestBanana> idk how to
spell anymore wow
L811[18:08:23] <Eddi|zuHause> well, it's
not like it's impossible to learn german without german
heritage
L812[18:10:18] <Eddi|zuHause> they say
german is difficult to learn, but that's not actually true. there's
some complicated logic behind it, but at least it's logic, and not
english, where for every rule you have more words that are
exceptions than actually follow the rule :p
L813[18:11:03] <GuestBanana> "ee is
always a long e, except for been, then it's short" i know,
right
L814[18:11:15] <Eddi|zuHause> (well, aside
from noun genders. there's no rule for that)
L815[18:11:45] <GuestBanana> Noun genders
are literally the stupidest thing I have ever heard of.
L816[18:12:03] <GuestBanana> I'm learning
Spanish and don't understand why the frick the table is a
woman.
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L818[18:13:05] <Eddi|zuHause> there are a
few cases where romance and germanic languages are flipped on
genders
L819[18:13:11] <Eddi|zuHause> like the
table is male in german
L820[18:13:27] <Eddi|zuHause> or the tower
is female in french but male in german
L821[18:13:37] <Eddi|zuHause> or the moon
is female in french and male in german
L822[18:13:46] <Eddi|zuHause> or the sun
is male in french and female in german
L823[18:14:21] <Draconiator> Wheeeee,
making a stock version of my airship for someone in 1.4.3 no props
though....
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L825[18:18:07] <GuestBanana> Doesn't
German have a neuter gender?
L826[18:18:12] <GuestBanana> Spanish
doesn't
L827[18:18:18] <Eddi|zuHause> it
does
L828[18:18:58] <Eddi|zuHause> english also
did at some point, but the word "it" is pretty much the
only remnant
L829[18:19:39] <GuestBanana> well, english
doesn't have gendered nouns though
L830[18:19:58] <Eddi|zuHause> but why
would a table be neuter? it's not like it's an inanimate object
that does not take part in sexual reproduction
L831[18:20:47] <GuestBanana> I was
studying there was this one answer to a practice test question that
said "Rocks cannot reproduce sexually."
L832[18:20:52] <GuestBanana> that cracked
me up so much
L833[18:21:43] <Eddi|zuHause> men are male
and women are female. boys are male, and girls are neuter.
logical?
L834[18:22:34] <Eddi|zuHause> if you don't
know the gender of an animal, cats default to female and dogs
default to male.
L835[18:23:19] <GuestBanana> Thanks for
making German sound less fun man
L836[18:24:13] <Eddi|zuHause> well, the
real fun starts if you add cases :p
L837[18:24:30] <Eddi|zuHause> and switch
around word order :p
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L839[18:24:55] <Eddi|zuHause> oh, i guess
that was too much
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L842[18:43:38] <Supercheese> Well, having
already learned Latin, noun genders & cases for German are
basically just the same, but from a purely English perspective,
yeah it is nuts
L843[18:44:06] <Supercheese> what
miniscule remnant of case-inflection remains in English, even that
is gradually disappearing
L844[18:44:24] <Supercheese> I / me and
they / them are still around, but who / whom is largely dead
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L848[19:04:07] <JCB> ... upper deck?
L849[19:05:05] <JCB> got me curious now...
mostly because I wouldn't mind learning a good way to make boats in
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L852[19:08:16] <Supercheese> reminds me of
that... whatchamacallit, uh
L853[19:08:19] <Supercheese> from
TailSpin
L854[19:08:27] <Supercheese> so long ago,
I can't remember
L855[19:08:54] <Supercheese> the Iron
Vulture
L856[19:10:26] <JCB> ya..
L857[19:10:36] <JCB> only missing
propellers :P
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L869[19:46:33] <Draconiator> You can
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L885[21:17:54] <BenjaminK> Okay what do
you guys call that little light in flight mode on the bottom left
under the staging order that blinks green and orange?
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L888[21:26:26] <darsie> BenjaminK: Dunno.
Status LED?
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L891[21:30:54] <BenjaminK> darsie:
thanks
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L893[21:46:14] <BenjaminK> ah it's called
staging LED
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