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L19[01:24:08] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M89MIJiWljo
L20[01:24:08] <kmath> YouTube - Model Trains with Working Steam Engines!
L21[01:26:26] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZVFluepenM
L22[01:26:26] <kmath> YouTube - What's Changed in Astronaut Culture? Offworld episode 7: The Right Stuff
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L24[01:43:18] <Glass|phone> https://twitter.com/quendergeer/status/1001827794035277828?s=19
L25[01:43:18] <kmath> <quendergeer> fallout ⏎ fallout 2 ⏎ fallout 3 ⏎ fallout new vegas ⏎ fallout 4 ⏎ fallout 76 ⏎ fallout 2000 ⏎ fallout me ⏎ fallout xp ⏎ fallout vista ⏎ fallout 7
L26[01:47:34] <TheKosmonaut> Glass|phone: I welcome Fallout 7
L27[01:47:51] <Althego> fallout 8, 10
L28[01:47:57] <Glass|phone> xp was best
L29[01:48:01] <TheKosmonaut> \o/
L30[01:48:03] <Althego> was
L31[01:48:06] <TheKosmonaut> Glass|phone: I wish it would just diw
L32[01:48:11] <TheKosmonaut> People here STILL USA XP
L33[01:48:16] <TheKosmonaut> USE*
L34[01:48:28] <Althego> yes, military does that too
L35[01:48:33] <Althego> and many companies
L36[01:49:22] <Glass|phone> So I guess people still using xp makes you... wanna cry? #toosoon
L37[01:51:17] <KrazyKrl> Fallout NT... on wait that was just fallout 4.
L38[01:51:34] <KrazyKrl> Erm... Fallout Me*
L39[01:51:42] <KrazyKrl> Fallout NT was fallout 3
L40[01:58:54] <KrazyKrl> I think fallout 4 was the only fallout game i've never bothered completing... and i play fallout shelter every so often.
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L45[03:24:37] <Mat2ch> How do I record messages?
L46[03:24:40] <Mat2ch> .help
L47[03:25:18] <Mat2ch> .tell Fluburtur No, that's just Berlin, which should get burned. :P
L48[03:25:21] <Mat2ch> ;tell Fluburtur No, that's just Berlin, which should get burned. :P
L49[03:25:22] <kmath> Mat2ch: I'll let Fluburtur know when I see them
L50[03:25:24] <Mat2ch> Ah
L51[03:25:30] <Mat2ch> ;help
L52[03:25:30] <kmath> Mat2ch: Supported commands are: help c rpn 8ball choose wa wolfram tell seen
L53[03:25:40] <Mat2ch> ;wolfram
L54[03:26:05] <Mat2ch> sadly kmath doesn't seem to like queries. :|
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L58[03:36:20] <Gasher[work]> ;wolfram 2*2
L59[03:36:21] <kmath> Gasher[work]: 2×2 = 4
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L61[03:43:35] <Mat2ch> Ah, wolfram alpha
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L63[03:43:48] <Mat2ch> I totally forgot that this still exists
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L76[04:32:47] <Rolf> uhhh think that was fake
L77[04:33:00] <Gasher[work]> lol
L78[04:33:18] <Rolf> phishing fun
L79[04:42:31] <Rolf> sent lots of passwords to that fake bot
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L90[05:17:18] <APlayer> Ha! So I just had to temporarily unplug my keyboard. I plug it back in, Windows says "Driver not found" and congratulations, I have a PC without a keyboard. What do you do in such a situation? Of course, you open a random word document on your PC, and start copy-paste-stitching a Google search from individual letters in the document :P
L91[05:17:48] <APlayer> But hey, it worked
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L94[05:28:42] <snow> APlayer: not on screen keyboard?
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L97[05:33:10] <Rolf> APlayer: heh did that once. I just used mouse drag text lol
L98[05:33:27] <Rolf> can do that in linux lol
L99[05:37:01] <Althego> APlayer: no, there is a completely functioning on screen keyboard built in
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L101[05:37:37] <Althego> not fast without a touchscreen, but i used it several times with mouse
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L103[05:38:27] <Althego> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/10762/windows-use-on-screen-keyboard
L104[05:38:43] <APlayer> That's actually good to know
L105[05:38:52] <APlayer> Thank you!
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L128[08:58:11] <GlassYuri> https://i.imgur.com/ZEjGV7V.png
L129[08:58:47] <Althego> hehe
L130[09:04:23] <Althego> hmm, cupcake landers
L131[09:04:24] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgMYeIK1vOA
L132[09:04:24] <kmath> YouTube - Bill & Jeb's Most Excellent Adventure
L133[09:04:37] <Althego> with some intro animation
L134[09:04:44] <Althego> kerbal eating a cake
L135[09:08:06] <Althego> hehe, reklám, félszemmel ránézek: kretén jellegű fogyókúra. ja mondom biztos hülyéknek van az ilyen. de aztán jobban ránézek: ketogén jellegű kannibál fogyókúra. hmm, egész biztos hülyéknek van az ilyen
L136[09:08:21] <Althego> heh not here
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L138[09:11:44] <Althego> hehe, lot of old models in that video
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L142[09:20:49] <ve2dmn> Althego: ... hum... Google translate has issues with that sentence
L143[09:21:23] <Althego> no wonder because the advertised product does not make any sense
L144[09:21:59] <ve2dmn> A dieting product?
L145[09:22:10] <Althego> apparently ketogenic style cannibalistic diet
L146[09:22:13] <Althego> what the hell is that
L147[09:22:28] <ve2dmn> it's.... clearly illegal
L148[09:22:56] <Althego> but my first reading of it was kretin style diet
L149[09:23:18] <Althego> with c in english
L150[09:23:43] <APlayer> Ahem
L151[09:23:46] <ve2dmn> sounds about right... are you sure it's not the onion?
L152[09:24:20] <Althego> no, it was ad on youtube, upper right corner
L153[09:24:22] <ve2dmn> Or the Beaverton (a canadian-centric version of the Onion)
L154[09:24:29] <Althego> and i know the company, i eat their food
L155[09:24:57] <Althego> APlayer: what was the no allowed word?
L156[09:25:12] <APlayer> There are many words that are not allowed
L157[09:25:24] <Althego> the list is infinite? :)
L158[09:25:33] <ve2dmn> Big words
L159[09:25:34] <APlayer> Probably more than one A-word, B-word, C-word, ... you get the hang
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L161[09:25:59] <APlayer> No list of word is infinite unless you include neologisms
L162[09:26:11] <APlayer> Which are kind of a grey zone regarding if they are allowed :P
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L164[09:27:41] <Althego> the best ad in the upper right corner on youtube is still the german gothic lolita clothing store
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L166[09:28:35] <Althego> somehow it must have detected that i was sometimes in germany. not logged in, so i am not sure how it connected
L167[09:28:53] <Althego> but the product was an utter failure for me
L168[09:29:37] <Fluburtur> finally weekend
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L170[09:36:53] <Fluburtur> https://78.media.tumblr.com/8b4e687bc20823d16109be61a73c56f9/tumblr_p9n2tprFJp1r2qr2so1_540.png
L171[09:37:43] <Althego> hehe
L172[09:38:11] <Althego> i guess the question is which knife to use for what
L173[09:38:16] <Fluburtur> yes
L174[09:38:42] <Fluburtur> https://78.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0v29xQZSm1rnfzmjo1_540.jpg
L175[09:40:10] <Fluburtur> "though the Man o’ War may look like a jellyfish, it’s definitely not. in fact, it’s not even a single animal! it’s actually four separate organisms jammed into a venomous trenchcoat like three best friends trying to sneak into an R rated movie. "
L176[09:40:31] <Fluburtur> https://ornistheavianfiend.tumblr.com/post/174466637329/satans-balloon-animals
L177[09:40:33] <Althego> i know that. but interesting way of putting it
L178[09:41:12] <Fluburtur> "and the tentacle polyp (murders things indiscriminately for the sheer joy of it). "
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L180[09:45:24] <Fluburtur> "The moon landing faked itself" that ahs to be the best thing I real today
L181[09:45:31] <Althego> hehe
L182[09:46:00] <Althego> but i liked the kubrick directed it, but he liked realism so much he insisted to film on location
L183[09:46:25] <Fluburtur> isn't that true?
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L185[09:49:22] <Althego> the fact remains t hat even in the scenes of 2001 which are on the moon, there are a lot things that are factually incorrect or physically impossible
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L188[09:51:51] <Fluburtur> https://78.media.tumblr.com/519e1ad21670213985fa2b57b65ce3a2/tumblr_inline_p9a3xdzEYo1v6q8wn_540.jpg
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L190[09:52:47] <Fluburtur> https://78.media.tumblr.com/80b45d2b5144a5b9514016870b6df639/tumblr_inline_p9kpz76YmO1tdt6qt_540.png
L191[09:53:14] <Althego> move it, you must move it
L192[09:54:10] * UmbralRaptop gives every movie a pass on the gravity, unless they're ~100% CGI.
L193[09:56:46] <Rokker> Fluburtur: oooo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iqqHAWJq_0&pbjreload=10
L194[09:56:47] <kmath> YouTube - RC Ground Effect Vehicle - RCTESTFLIGHT -
L195[09:56:58] <Fluburtur> yes that's planned
L196[09:57:17] <Althego> oh tyhat reminds me, i have to watch the real steam engines model trains i linked this morning
L197[09:59:32] <Rokker> Fluburtur: you should build the totally scary stealth ground effect vehicle that iran built
L198[09:59:40] <Rokker> super dangerous plane
L199[09:59:43] <Fluburtur> you need to show me that
L200[09:59:57] <Rokker> Fluburtur: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_KaQ1n-TWE
L201[09:59:58] <kmath> YouTube - Islamic Iran Launches Bavar-2 ekranoplan (part 2)
L202[10:00:28] <Fluburtur> ooo they are very nice
L203[10:00:36] <Fluburtur> "adva
L204[10:00:41] <Rokker> Fluburtur: lmao, they are so full of themselves
L205[10:00:42] <Fluburtur> "advanced flying boats"
L206[10:00:52] <Rokker> Fluburtur: propeller powered
L207[10:00:54] <Rokker> stealth
L208[10:00:56] <Fluburtur> my dude it's a ground effect vehicle it's a super old concept
L209[10:01:01] <Rokker> 2+2=lolno
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L212[10:02:10] <Rokker> Fluburtur: do you remember the time iran unveiled a 5th gen stealth fighter by showing the media a fiberglass mockup and then said it could fly by showing a photoshopped picture of a model in the air?
L213[10:02:20] <Fluburtur> no
L214[10:02:23] <Althego> hehe
L215[10:02:42] <Althego> i think i remember something. wasnt it a drone?
L216[10:03:07] <Rokker> Althego: the model used for some flight footage was a drone
L217[10:03:11] <Rokker> Fluburtur: heres one pic http://media.techeblog.com/images/iran-stealth-fighter.jpg
L218[10:03:26] <Fluburtur> well it does look decent
L219[10:03:29] <Rokker> mmm, that yellow sun
L220[10:03:29] <Althego> hmm no i dont remeber this
L221[10:03:34] <Fluburtur> a bit copied on murikan designs tho
L222[10:04:16] <Rokker> Fluburtur: experts determined that it was too small for reasonable piloting, not stealth, made of fiberglass and probably not particularly maneuverable
L223[10:04:27] <Rokker> also all iran designs are copied off american designs
L224[10:04:45] <Fluburtur> get me more pics and I will build one
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L226[10:04:59] <Althego> why would you do that lol
L227[10:05:16] <Fluburtur> so I can make better planes than iran
L228[10:05:23] <Althego> hehe
L229[10:05:24] <Rokker> Fluburtur: http://fantastic-plastic.com/Q-313-Display.jpg
L230[10:05:29] <Fluburtur> then I tell them to pay me to build them planes and then I wo'nt do it
L231[10:05:31] <Althego> still better love story than twilight
L232[10:05:40] <Rokker> Fluburtur: its called the Qaher 313
L233[10:05:47] <Rokker> at the moment the most its done is taxi
L234[10:06:01] <Rokker> and that alone took them like... 4 years
L235[10:06:09] <Fluburtur> those air intakes look a bit small
L236[10:06:33] <Althego> hehe
L237[10:06:35] <Fluburtur> it is turkey that makes fairly nice planes
L238[10:06:38] <Althego> but understandable
L239[10:06:39] <Rokker> Fluburtur: heres the actual product https://theaviationist.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/F-313-new-tests-2.jpg
L240[10:06:45] <Rokker> turkey makes planes?
L241[10:06:49] <Althego> designing building testing a plane can take decades
L242[10:06:51] <Fluburtur> yeah
L243[10:07:03] <Rokker> Fluburtur: those intakes arent gonna do crap the moment that plane goes high AOA
L244[10:07:10] <Rokker> they are gonna starve that engine
L245[10:07:15] <Rokker> and its gonna be amazing
L246[10:07:17] <Fluburtur> some turkish dude that was a pilot in france in WWI went back there and he started making planes and created an airline
L247[10:07:35] <Fluburtur> there was a few of those at the bourget airshow and it was proper stuff
L248[10:07:45] <Fluburtur> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TAI_H��rkuş
L249[10:08:20] <Fluburtur> other than the intakes and the plane being a bit small it looks liek a ncie design
L250[10:08:36] <Fluburtur> however the canards should be slightly over the wings or angled to help in high aoa
L251[10:08:55] <Althego> i still would like to see something like the boeing bird of prey
L252[10:09:01] <Althego> because it looks so alien
L253[10:09:29] <Rokker> Althego: come to dayton
L254[10:09:33] <Althego> that was also small, but mostly a demonstrator, not a real combat design
L255[10:09:34] <Rokker> you can see the actual thing
L256[10:09:38] <Rokker> eh
L257[10:09:41] <Rokker> not that small
L258[10:09:46] <Althego> bit far away
L259[10:09:50] <Althego> and you would be too close :)
L260[10:09:55] <Rokker> im tired of your excuses
L261[10:10:05] <Althego> i find your lack of faith disturbing
L262[10:10:42] <Rokker> Althego: the Bird of Prey isnt too small but its engine is tiny
L263[10:10:56] <Rokker> tho i guess thats mostly cause it wasnt supersonic
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L265[10:13:09] <Rokker> Althego: http://www.nmusafvirtualtour.com/full/z-041.html
L266[10:13:15] <Rokker> needs flash
L267[10:13:17] <Rokker> but meh
L268[10:13:20] <Althego> hahaha
L269[10:13:29] <Althego> you can forget about that
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L271[10:15:40] <Rokker> Althego: https://media.defense.gov/2009/Jun/24/2000538436/-1/-1/0/090624-F-1234S-001.JPG
L272[10:16:01] <Althego> maybe it looks smaller because of the lack of wings
L273[10:16:46] <Althego> because in comparison here it seems ok
L274[10:17:17] <Rokker> thats probably it
L275[10:17:30] <Rokker> cause its not much smaller than a light fighter like the f-16
L276[10:18:10] <Rokker> Althego: its not very long if you dont include the wings
L277[10:18:14] <Rokker> http://marc.merlins.org/blogimg/thumb1024_3052_Korea-Southeast_Asia.jpg
L278[10:19:38] <Fluburtur> "The aircraft was reportedly designed with extra stability and so does not need a fly-by-wire"
L279[10:19:38] <Fluburtur> wat
L280[10:19:54] <Fluburtur> it is short coupled and has canards, that just doesnt' make sense
L281[10:21:23] <Rokker> Fluburtur: what aircraft
L282[10:21:30] <Fluburtur> the iran one
L283[10:21:30] <Althego> the bird of prey
L284[10:21:38] <Althego> hmm
L285[10:21:43] <Rokker> Fluburtur: listen
L286[10:21:50] <Althego> it doesnt fly :)
L287[10:21:53] <Althego> hey, listen!
L288[10:21:58] <Rokker> Fluburtur: literally everything out of iran
L289[10:22:06] <Rokker> anything you hear about any aircraft
L290[10:22:13] <Rokker> its probably bull
L291[10:22:26] <Althego> but i know that the bird of prey also didnt have fly by wire
L292[10:22:49] <ve2dmn> Fluburtur: remind me who had the great idea of calling thoses things 'canards'...
L293[10:23:13] <Fluburtur> idk
L294[10:23:27] <Althego> lot of strange names for things
L295[10:23:42] <Rokker> Fluburtur: they called a ground effect vehicle that is basically a commercial GEV with a machine gun attached "advanced"
L296[10:24:25] <Rokker> Fluburtur: this is their scary attack helicopter https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d8/Iranian_Revolutionary_Guard_Air_Force_Shahed_285_Sharifi.jpg/600px-Iranian_Revolutionary_Guard_Air_Force_Shahed_285_Sharifi.jpg
L297[10:24:41] <Fluburtur> haha box
L298[10:24:48] <Althego> hehe, reminds me of airwolf
L299[10:24:53] <Rokker> Fluburtur: not just a box
L300[10:24:53] <Fluburtur> is that like a .22 gun in the nose?
L301[10:24:54] <Althego> you know, both are props :9
L302[10:25:26] <Althego> i guess these are still better than north korean tech
L303[10:25:36] <Rokker> Fluburtur: they literally ripped the machinery out of a Bell 206
L304[10:25:43] <Fluburtur> well north korea has mig 29, at least those works
L305[10:25:44] <Rokker> and stuck it on their own airframe
L306[10:25:51] <Fluburtur> and like WWII stuff like IL-10
L307[10:25:59] <Fluburtur> lel
L308[10:26:31] <Rokker> north korea's airforce is the most bafflingly diverse air force
L309[10:26:46] <Fluburtur> they are like me, gather whatever they can
L310[10:27:40] <Rokker> huh
L311[10:27:43] <Rokker> actually
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L313[10:28:55] <Rokker> Fluburtur: also I dont remember Il-10 Being on the list
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L315[10:29:03] <Rokker> but their only bomber is the Il-28
L316[10:29:12] <Fluburtur> idk exactly but it was similar stuff
L317[10:29:37] <Rokker> Fluburtur: lol omg
L318[10:29:58] <Rokker> Fluburtur: they use Yak-18s as some of their attack planes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakovlev_Yak-18
L319[10:30:04] <Fluburtur> damn
L320[10:30:40] <Rokker> also they use An-2s for transport but i cant fault them there, its a good STOL with decent capacity
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L322[10:31:15] <Althego> funny that those are still viable airplanes
L323[10:31:31] <Rokker> Fluburtur: my museum has an actual North Korean MiG-15
L324[10:31:44] <Althego> your? :)
L325[10:31:46] <Rokker> that defected to south korea in 1953
L326[10:31:49] <Rokker> Althego: yes my
L327[10:32:04] <Althego> the ultimate fanboy
L328[10:32:09] <Rokker> Althego: i basically have squatters rights now
L329[10:33:30] <Rokker> Fluburtur https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Kum-sok
L330[10:33:36] <Rokker> his plane
L331[10:38:12] <Fluburtur> well he got rather lucky
L332[10:38:29] <Fluburtur> how are pilots supposed to let opposing forces that they are friendly?
L333[10:38:44] <Fluburtur> like open the radio and say "don't shoot me down I give you plane"?
L334[10:38:45] <Althego> radio?
L335[10:39:03] <Fluburtur> yeah the talking device
L336[10:39:03] <Althego> in some cases they cant radio because of incompatible frequencies
L337[10:39:08] <Fluburtur> that uses magic
L338[10:39:19] <Althego> but normally they can talk
L339[10:39:19] <Fluburtur> or the IFF thing
L340[10:39:24] <Althego> haha, that is nothing
L341[10:39:34] <Althego> i mean there is no universal i am friendly
L342[10:39:43] <Althego> you could set emergency maybe
L343[10:39:46] <Fluburtur> or use smokes or whatver but combat aircrafts don't have those
L344[10:40:02] <Fluburtur> maybe make yourself very visible on purpose
L345[10:40:19] <Fluburtur> like "this idiot is an idiot let's not shoot him down"
L346[10:40:32] <Althego> probably wouldnt really work
L347[10:40:47] <Althego> unless you are with a plane that can outrun missiles
L348[10:40:49] <Fluburtur> well you usually want to avoid being seen
L349[10:41:06] <Fluburtur> if you make it very obvious you aren't a danger it could work I guess
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L352[10:41:53] <Fluburtur> I want to know so I can steal a rafale and bring it to the uk so they can stop using the eurofighter
L353[10:42:00] <Fluburtur> they probably don't even use it but you know
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L355[10:42:26] <Rokker> why would they want an inferior plane
L356[10:42:56] <Fluburtur> theu eurofighter is crap
L357[10:42:58] <Fluburtur> and ugly
L358[10:43:35] <Althego> hehe
L359[10:43:44] <Rokker> sure
L360[10:43:50] <Rokker> but the rafael is worse
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L362[10:44:01] <Althego> i can tell you that we called the ef simulator eurofailure, it was so bad
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L364[10:44:06] <Fluburtur> oh my got there is a group of 6 zeros above me
L365[10:44:09] <Althego> and still contained fortran code :)
L366[10:46:16] <Althego> but anyway, today thanks to standardization and civilian regulation, you could just radio on the emergency frequency that you are defecting in the aircraft
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L368[10:49:25] <Fluburtur> yeah I guess
L369[10:49:34] <Fluburtur> but then they would need to tell the army about that
L370[10:49:49] <Fluburtur> and trigger happy peoples like the murika would probably ignore that
L371[10:51:16] <Rokker> Fluburtur: hardly
L372[10:51:36] <Fluburtur> I know you would love a kill on the rafale
L373[10:51:51] <Rokker> yes
L374[10:52:10] <Rokker> but we also know enough about the rafael that we wouldnt need to get one
L375[10:52:54] <Althego> and we know enough about the f-35, that nobody needs one :)
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L377[10:52:59] <Fluburtur> heh
L378[10:53:04] <Fluburtur> bwoop transit
L379[10:53:08] <transitbiker> bwoop
L380[10:53:20] <transitbiker> its 90% humidity in here
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L382[10:53:32] <transitbiker> someone halp
L383[10:53:57] <transitbiker> its like this house is hosting a heated swimming pool
L384[10:54:02] <Althego> dehumidifier
L385[10:54:12] <UmbralRaptop> A/C
L386[10:54:21] <Althego> or simply use air conditioning, the cold surfaces will collect water
L387[10:54:54] <Althego> put out bags of that dehumidifier you find in packages
L388[10:55:01] <transitbiker> would love to, central air is tot, june 18th replace date, nothing can be done till then
L389[10:55:12] <ve2dmn> just got a "Hi X, We have another one of those privacy policy update emails you’ve probably fallen in love with by now. If that is not the case, then we do apologize for being so respectful of your privacy. Was that too passive aggressive?"
L390[10:55:57] <transitbiker> is this from squad's new owners>
L391[10:56:05] <ve2dmn> no, it's another game
L392[10:57:07] <transitbiker> hm
L393[10:57:17] <ve2dmn> 'Universim'
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L396[10:58:08] <transitbiker> you'd think that privacy & data security would be a top priority for game developers, ISP's and so on in this age of data breaches
L397[10:58:38] <transitbiker> the less info out there to steal the better
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L400[10:59:34] <Althego> or go the other way. put out so much information that any real data is lost in the noise
L401[10:59:48] <ve2dmn> At work we have a website... it's... complicated
L402[11:00:09] <ve2dmn> We need the stats... yet we don't care about the specifics of the users
L403[11:00:19] <Fluburtur> that's why I reblog memes all day Althego
L404[11:00:22] <transitbiker> i do believe the last series of breaches has basically totally compromised the data of several million us ciizens and many more folks elsewhere
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L406[11:01:25] <transitbiker> the fact that equifax is still in business is shocking, they totally failed at protecting consumer info
L407[11:01:42] <ve2dmn> transitbiker: yet... Equifax made profit on the breach...
L408[11:01:45] <ve2dmn> *sigh*
L409[11:01:47] <ve2dmn> lunch time
L410[11:01:54] <transitbiker> enjoy
L411[11:01:56] <Althego> hehe
L412[11:02:00] <Althego> but never business time
L413[11:02:09] <Althego> that rocket has been delayed for months now
L414[11:02:59] <transitbiker> "the business of america is buisness...s being robbed blind by state sponsored hackers" ;
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L416[11:03:08] <transitbiker> anyways
L417[11:03:52] <transitbiker> i'm going to develop a new style of aircraft in ksp today
L418[11:04:00] <Althego> oh no
L419[11:04:20] <transitbiker> yesss :D
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L421[11:04:37] <Fluburtur> good
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L423[11:04:55] <transitbiker> the main focus will be engine placement
L424[11:05:02] <Althego> strike me down with all your hatred
L425[11:05:17] <transitbiker> i dont have any
L426[11:05:26] <Althego> so be it, jedi :)
L427[11:05:40] <transitbiker> sips tea
L428[11:06:26] <Althego> eh sip
L429[11:06:41] <Althego> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Session_Initiation_Protocol
L430[11:07:16] <transitbiker> https://i.imgflip.com/1b41yo.jpg
L431[11:10:45] <Althego> i think i found the real technoviking https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2017/09/23/13/sweden-military.jpg
L432[11:11:48] <Fluburtur> Rokker https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/380846093002473475/452142199770185729/20180601174339_1.jpg
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L434[11:12:08] <Rokker> Fluburtur: no thanns
L435[11:12:10] <Rokker> thanks
L436[11:12:27] <transitbiker> https://support.apple.com/kb/SP43?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US
L437[11:12:33] <Rokker> Fluburtur: I think that the Ki-32 looks nice
L438[11:12:42] <Fluburtur> I actuallyt killed a zero this game
L439[11:12:49] <Fluburtur> after being set on fire by another one
L440[11:12:51] <transitbiker> its william wallace?
L441[11:13:01] <Fluburtur> yak 9u can resist a fire which is nice but it becomes crap after that
L442[11:13:17] <Rokker> also that the Zwilling is a paper abomination that has no more right to be in the game than the R2Y2
L443[11:13:30] <transitbiker> is that he one with the outboard air intakes on the engine?
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L446[11:14:08] <Rokker> transitbiker: you talking to me?
L447[11:15:16] <Rokker> ah no he probably still has me ignored
L448[11:15:19] <Fluburtur> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEAwx2RQAeo
L449[11:15:19] <kmath> YouTube - Torpedo Boyz - " Are you talking to me? " feat. Returner
L450[11:16:05] <Rokker> Fluburtur: he asked u a question, sir
L451[11:16:38] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: I really wonder how you find that stuff
L452[11:16:45] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QWL-FwX4t4
L453[11:16:45] <kmath> YouTube - Taxi Driver (5/8) Movie CLIP - You Talkin' to Me? (1976) HD
L454[11:16:52] <Fluburtur> torpedo boyz is nice
L455[11:17:17] <Rokker> Fluburtur: I found a song recently
L456[11:18:08] <Rokker> Fluburtur: or rather an album
L457[11:18:17] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: I like the bass
L458[11:18:30] <Rokker> it's called "Any Landing You Can Walk Away From" by Bock's Car
L459[11:18:42] <transitbiker> Fluburtur, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e9/Klimov_VK-107A.jpg/1200px-Klimov_VK-107A.jpg
L460[11:18:46] <Rokker> which is great
L461[11:19:10] <Rokker> get your god darn commie engines away from me
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L463[11:20:07] <transitbiker> seems this was in the mig-3 as well as the yak 9
L464[11:20:29] <transitbiker> i like the lines of the mig 3, very "swept"
L465[11:21:36] <transitbiker> especially around the engine covering
L466[11:23:29] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonov_An-74 look at that weird design
L467[11:23:37] <Althego> hehe
L468[11:23:40] <Althego> looks like ksp
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L470[11:25:27] <Fluburtur> wew
L471[11:25:29] <Mat2ch> but performs much better. :D
L472[11:26:11] <Rokker> Fluburtur: can you tell transitbiker i have a question about trains
L473[11:26:31] <Fluburtur> transitbiker rokker has a question about trains
L474[11:26:32] <Rokker> namely train routes
L475[11:27:20] <transitbiker> they are all awesome unless it leads through a creepy gate in central europe
L476[11:27:44] <Althego> what gate
L477[11:27:46] <transitbiker> trains summed up
L478[11:28:17] <Rokker> transitbiker: yeah but i wanna know how sketchy connecting train routes are in the US
L479[11:28:53] <transitbiker> https://d2v9y0dukr6mq2.cloudfront.net/video/thumbnail/VB6lIpK/videoblocks-gate-and-railway-at-auschwitz-birkenau-german-nazi-concentration-camp_bakvxdvdf_thumbnail-full01.png
L480[11:29:20] <transitbiker> aside from that nonsense, trains are awesome
L481[11:29:44] <Rokker> ...
L482[11:29:50] <Althego> eh
L483[11:30:00] <Rokker> id say that joke is hardly channel appropriate
L484[11:30:19] <Rokker> UmbralRaptop: are holocaust jokes appropriate for the channel or nyet
L485[11:30:30] <transitbiker> what question does rocker have about trains?
L486[11:30:40] <Fluburtur> ok my helicopter is ready to fly tomorrow
L487[11:30:50] <transitbiker> photo?
L488[11:31:04] <Rokker> just unignore me and i can ask
L489[11:31:23] <Fluburtur> transitbiker photo tomorrow
L490[11:31:40] <transitbiker> is this the same one we saw a video of like 2 months ago?
L491[11:31:55] <Fluburtur> yes
L492[11:32:01] <transitbiker> wait, didn't it crash or something?
L493[11:32:06] <transitbiker> into a tree?
L494[11:32:33] <Fluburtur> not the helicopter
L495[11:32:48] <transitbiker> my face crashed into the tree
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L497[11:33:11] <transitbiker> transitbiker tree interface services inc
L498[11:33:34] * Rokker rolls eyes
L499[11:33:46] <transitbiker> whoops no intakes heh
L500[11:34:42] <Althego> hehe, typical
L501[11:34:49] <transitbiker> what would you rather try to build, a geared fan plane, or a geared prop?
L502[11:35:12] <Althego> geared?
L503[11:36:08] <transitbiker> yes, a reduction gear so that the turbine can spin at higher RPM and the fan/prop can spin at more efficient speeds
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L505[11:36:31] <Fluburtur> electric crap doesn't need gearing
L506[11:36:44] <Fluburtur> but there are turboprops planes
L507[11:36:48] <Fluburtur> rc ones that is
L508[11:37:27] <transitbiker> you could in theory put a reduction gear for higher aspect fans?
L509[11:37:51] <Fluburtur> yeah but you lose power in gearings
L510[11:38:47] <transitbiker> that way the motor can rev up to nominal rpm, and the fan can produce tons of thrust without he losses to drag and tip vortex?
L511[11:38:51] <transitbiker> hmmm
L512[11:39:50] <transitbiker> maybe it would be better suited to a series of fans in a duct vs a single fan
L513[11:40:03] <transitbiker> but hat would increase complexity quite a bit
L514[11:40:08] <transitbiker> -.-
L515[11:40:57] <Althego> but i thought you were building ksp planes
L516[11:41:00] <transitbiker> i am
L517[11:41:03] <Althego> there you dont have this
L518[11:41:19] <Althego> i think there is at least one modern engine that has a reduction gear for the fan
L519[11:41:23] <transitbiker> this one cant get out of its own way, probably too much fuel mass
L520[11:41:39] <Althego> now in theory that sounds simple, but it took them some decades to develop that bearing
L521[11:41:43] <transitbiker> yes GE has a range that uses a geared turbofan
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L523[11:42:01] <transitbiker> i know, it's very recent
L524[11:42:14] <transitbiker> and it's not a large diameter engine
L525[11:42:28] <Fluburtur> I think airliners use reductors on the big fans at the front
L526[11:42:38] <Fluburtur> all turboprops and helis do too
L527[11:42:47] <Althego> no they dont
L528[11:42:52] <Althego> i mean not the jet engines
L529[11:42:52] <Fluburtur> and a lot of regular prop aircrafts as well
L530[11:42:56] <Althego> that is an issue with them
L531[11:43:03] <Fluburtur> yeah, low bypass do'nt have reductors
L532[11:43:10] <transitbiker> i believe the primary uses are in the larger regional jets and whatnot
L533[11:43:24] <Althego> without the reduction gear the core cant spin faster for higher efficiency and the fan cant spin slower also for higher efficieny
L534[11:43:24] <Fluburtur> you don't want the tip fo the blades to go too fast
L535[11:43:54] <Althego> and because of the engineering challenge these engines are only few years old
L536[11:43:58] <Althego> not many of them around
L537[11:44:17] <transitbiker> maybe its RR? i forget, i'm very foggy headed :\
L538[11:45:00] <transitbiker> no it's P&W
L539[11:45:11] <Fluburtur> planetary reductors aren't hard to make
L540[11:45:38] <transitbiker> PW1000G
L541[11:45:58] <transitbiker> wow, the bypass ratio on that thing is impressive for its overall size
L542[11:46:31] <transitbiker> 15:1 bypass ratio
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L544[11:47:44] <Althego> here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgQgEftEd8c
L545[11:47:45] <kmath> YouTube - PurePower PW1000G Engine: Customer Testimonials
L546[11:48:22] <Fluburtur> transitbiker https://imgur.com/a/chRmZHZ
L547[11:49:35] <Rokker> Althego: also i would like to point out that the An-74 is dumb and the air force had a similar design that it decided not to mass produce
L548[11:49:51] <transitbiker> the collective looks like it originated from a bicycle suspension designer
L549[11:50:04] <Gasher> Rokker, also it is very loud
L550[11:50:15] <transitbiker> hay gasher
L551[11:50:20] <Gasher> hi
L552[11:50:21] <Mod9000> Hello, Gasher
L553[11:50:27] <transitbiker> been a while :D
L554[11:50:42] <Gasher> yep
L555[11:50:45] <Fluburtur> transitbiker Align actually made lathes and other rotary equipment before goign to helicopters
L556[11:51:11] <Rokker> Althego: look at this pic i took with it https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zYxqjdQI_NMQo5z-9MPTOcBDRKJRpEPP/view?usp=sharing
L557[11:51:17] <Rokker> its beautiful
L558[11:51:20] <Rokker> yet dumb
L559[11:51:30] <transitbiker> that makes sense
L560[11:51:53] <Gasher> Rokker, the transport unit that based (and i think still bases) on airport near family dacha had them and one of my childhood memories is the loud howl of their engines in the morning
L561[11:52:32] <Rokker> Gasher: we have C-17s here in dayton and they are honestly pretty quiet for the most part
L562[11:52:48] <Rokker> the military 747s that fly out of here are quiet as well
L563[11:53:31] <Fluburtur> airliners are made to be a bit more silent
L564[11:53:43] <Fluburtur> because some peoples complain otherwise, go figure
L565[11:54:49] <Gasher> yeah, people who buy land near airports, build houses there and suddenly discover that aircraft make noises
L566[11:54:59] <transitbiker> well, geared turbofans have lower fan tip speed, so they are quieter
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L568[11:55:31] <transitbiker> i call those people "NIMNBY's" 'not in my new back yard
L569[11:55:52] <Fluburtur> I wonder if putting cyclic pitch on the tail rotor of a heli would do anythign nice
L570[11:55:55] <Fluburtur> probably not
L571[11:56:10] <Gasher> on the other hand, as that dacha house is right beneath the landing approach to the nearest airport of the city, the lower-noise aircraft are nice and much quieter indeed
L572[11:56:18] <transitbiker> only for pitch control
L573[11:56:31] <Fluburtur> yeah but cyclic
L574[11:56:40] <Fluburtur> they only have collective usually
L575[11:56:52] <Fluburtur> I guess it could act on roll a bit?
L576[11:57:12] <Gasher> sounds like one more complex mechanism in the place where it is not needed
L577[11:57:41] <Fluburtur> yeah I should go back to making a intermesher
L578[11:57:49] <Fluburtur> at least those are somehow less complex
L579[11:57:58] <Gasher> hm
L580[11:58:09] <Gasher> well if you can maybe you can try to see what happens
L581[11:58:16] <Gasher> or what you could do with taht
L582[11:58:18] <transitbiker> well no not really, because of the way tail rotors work, the biggest effect would be to move the tail up or down that way, mostly because the main rotor is so overpowering in its gyroscopic effect
L583[11:58:29] <Fluburtur> some micro helis use a tail rotor that is the size of the main rotor of larger rc helis
L584[11:58:35] <Fluburtur> guess I could steal one and try
L585[12:00:14] <transitbiker> try an ABB azipod ;P
L586[12:02:08] <ve2dmn> Wow... I just got the Consulate phone scam here... I thought it was only in California!
L587[12:02:39] <Fluburtur> transitbiker I will have at least one weird plane for you to try
L588[12:02:46] <transitbiker> :D
L589[12:02:49] <transitbiker> in 1.22?
L590[12:02:59] <Fluburtur> no
L591[12:03:21] <ve2dmn> Note: if you get a random phone call from a consulate, it's a scam.
L592[12:03:46] <transitbiker> hm two radial intakes were not enough to feed the goliath
L593[12:07:41] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcPqk-O-fD4
L594[12:07:42] <kmath> YouTube - Danger: Humans
L595[12:08:05] <transitbiker> dismal performance vs expectations
L596[12:08:27] <transitbiker> next prototype better improve -.-
L597[12:10:28] <Althego> i especially liked the (earth) hosts life does not host nanoviral replicators antimemetic devices untranslatable 1
L598[12:10:50] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/186186669324500993/452157065436200970/IMG_20180601_132528.jpg
L599[12:11:03] <Althego> also liked immune to magnets and halting problem attacks
L600[12:14:33] <transitbiker> plasma tv sets are prone to magnetic flux just like CRT's
L601[12:14:39] <transitbiker> which i find hilarious
L602[12:16:06] <transitbiker> woah thats a lot of.... is that mercury oxide?
L603[12:16:22] <Althego> doesnt look like mercury
L604[12:16:52] <Fluburtur> did you say mercury? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231106102693986314/451464913018290176/IMG_20180530_160632.jpg
L605[12:17:00] <Rokker> Fluburtur: huh
L606[12:17:11] <transitbiker> woah
L607[12:17:12] <Rokker> Fluburtur: so i just looked at the list of planes in storage at the museum
L608[12:17:18] <transitbiker> kay thats a lot
L609[12:17:54] <transitbiker> mercury oxide is red-orange to dark red, whereas the plain mercury is silver
L610[12:18:19] <Rokker> Fluburtur: Dassault Mystere IVA
L611[12:18:24] <transitbiker> Fluburtur has a mad science lab.....
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L613[12:18:47] <Fluburtur> no that's just my job
L614[12:18:58] <Althego> and he sneaked out some mercury
L615[12:19:03] <Fluburtur> but they don't have the acid that can eat glass anymore sadly
L616[12:19:06] <Althego> so what is in the red tubes?
L617[12:19:14] <Fluburtur> they do have a 25kg bag of suplhur for some reason
L618[12:19:21] <transitbiker> o.o
L619[12:19:22] <Fluburtur> petrol mixed with a dye
L620[12:19:33] <transitbiker> what's it for?
L621[12:19:39] <Fluburtur> thermometers
L622[12:19:44] <transitbiker> ah
L623[12:20:39] <transitbiker> "here, this highly combustible petrochemical mix is much safer than that pesky old mercury oxide!" ;)
L624[12:20:49] <Fluburtur> heh
L625[12:20:57] <Fluburtur> less toxic at least
L626[12:21:09] <Fluburtur> they don't do much alcohol thermometers
L627[12:21:25] <Fluburtur> but they might in the furute because apparently peoples want biodegradable stuff
L628[12:21:33] <Fluburtur> guss that means they will replace the glass with sugar
L629[12:21:42] <Rokker> Fluburtur: what the hell
L630[12:21:49] <transitbiker> most places here have phased out liquid expansion themometers for digital temperature probe types
L631[12:21:58] <Rokker> the museum has both XP-81s and they are both in storage
L632[12:22:15] <Fluburtur> apparently glass ones stay accurate with time
L633[12:22:27] <transitbiker> yes
L634[12:22:42] <Fluburtur> Rokker I told you: fight the director and take over the museum
L635[12:23:09] <Rokker> Fluburtur: WE HAVE AN HE-111 AND WE ARENT EVEN DISPLAYING IT
L636[12:23:16] * transitbiker waits to see this on the news
L637[12:23:20] * Rokker smashes keyboard
L638[12:23:22] <Fluburtur> but do you have a he100
L639[12:23:38] <Rokker> Fluburtur: well its a CASA variant
L640[12:23:44] <Rokker> so spanish He 111 but still
L641[12:26:41] <ve2dmn> transitbiker: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermocouple
L642[12:27:22] <transitbiker> specifically https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermocouple#Aging_of_thermocouples
L643[12:28:30] <Fluburtur> glass thermometers don't need batteries either
L644[12:28:37] <Fluburtur> but you can't remotely monitor them
L645[12:28:40] <Fluburtur> and they are fragile
L646[12:28:45] <Fluburtur> but they can look nice
L647[12:29:59] <Fluburtur> oh god https://youtu.be/fHR_ArQkIfY?t=94
L648[12:30:43] <transitbiker> i cant even https://i.pinimg.com/236x/a4/be/46/a4be46ebe9f521984b56c4bb98906e55--science-equipment-cool-stuff.jpg
L649[12:31:27] <Fluburtur> the guys actually want me to make a video of the making of some thermometers for their website
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L651[12:31:31] <Fluburtur> so I will post it here
L652[12:31:36] <Althego> looks like some ornament
L653[12:31:57] <Rokker> Fluburtur: https://media.defense.gov/2007/Mar/15/2000507270/780/780/0/070313-F-1234P-039.JPG
L654[12:32:03] <transitbiker> cool
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L656[12:32:28] <transitbiker> yeah that orange guy is toast, the blue one has a chance if the strut holds
L657[12:33:04] <Fluburtur> well it's a scale cub so the strut is mostly there fo cosmetics
L658[12:33:16] <transitbiker> so it would be fine then
L659[12:33:26] <Fluburtur> he did clip the prop
L660[12:33:33] <transitbiker> oh nevermind
L661[12:33:35] <transitbiker> D
L662[12:33:35] <Fluburtur> was really lucky i didn't break more
L663[12:33:53] <transitbiker> wait, whch one was you? o.o
L664[12:34:03] <Fluburtur> no
L665[12:34:05] <Althego> neither
L666[12:34:08] <Fluburtur> he not I
L667[12:34:10] <Fluburtur> uh english
L668[12:34:23] <Althego> english, do you speak it? :)
L669[12:34:35] <Fluburtur> apparently not
L670[12:34:53] <Althego> at least now they are making some progress https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRxZnOAJGu8
L671[12:34:54] <kmath> YouTube - VSS Unity Second Rocket Powered Flight - UNCUT
L672[12:34:59] <Althego> but they are way too late
L673[12:35:27] <Fluburtur> uh the plane I will send to transit can reach 14km
L674[12:35:32] <Fluburtur> impressive for what it is
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L677[12:38:54] <transitbiker> i am using an apple pro keyboard (black keys) that i originally used with my 933 mhz powermac G4
L678[12:39:05] <transitbiker> on a windles compooper
L679[12:40:13] <transitbiker> so much more ergonomic than the trash one that came wit the system
L680[12:41:03] <transitbiker> huh
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L682[12:41:27] <transitbiker> im not going to show screenshots till i can get a working prototype of my NEO design
L683[12:43:23] <Althego> hah a scott video for rokker
L684[12:43:30] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdeybNPLpZU
L685[12:43:31] <kmath> YouTube - Zip Fuels & XB-70 Valkyrie - The B52 Replacement That Never Happened
L686[12:44:00] <transitbiker> woah
L687[12:44:14] <transitbiker> this thing flies like an angry cat
L688[12:44:40] <Althego> so it doesnt?
L689[12:44:56] <transitbiker> let me show
L690[12:45:14] <Althego> unless you mean... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_AdxJWFUh4
L691[12:45:15] <kmath> YouTube - Swat kats intro (season 1)
L692[12:46:22] <transitbiker> no control input from me, approximately 2 seconds apart https://imgur.com/a/qv70EGV
L693[12:47:16] <transitbiker> wacky oscillation
L694[12:47:47] <transitbiker> aaaaand its in the drink
L695[12:48:16] <Rokker> Althego: XBae-70
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L697[12:48:54] <transitbiker> ok lets try this
L698[12:50:38] <transitbiker> wow this thing hunts like don trump jr
L699[12:50:50] <transitbiker> time to rethink the tail
L700[12:50:55] <ve2dmn> Well... it seems like after of the city is shut down because of construction and the other half is shut down for the biking tour this weekend...
L701[12:51:09] <Althego> that was a cultural null reference :)
L702[12:51:10] <transitbiker> which sitty?
L703[12:51:11] <ve2dmn> I'll probably see me around all week-end...
L704[12:51:24] <ve2dmn> (Stuck in my house)
L705[12:51:25] <Althego> how does a donald trump junior hunt?
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L707[12:52:12] <transitbiker> large game
L708[12:52:22] <transitbiker> so its horrible
L709[12:52:23] <ve2dmn> transitbiker: you would love this. it's like a Marathon, but with bicycles
L710[12:53:02] <transitbiker> oh yeah, is it a century?
L711[12:53:54] <ve2dmn> never heard that term
L712[12:54:05] <transitbiker> big charity groups have annual century and half century rides from around philly etc to the beach and i think one has a route to liberty state park in nj which is less beach and more harbor banks
L713[12:54:20] <transitbiker> century ride = 100 miles
L714[12:54:26] <Althego> so does it mean 100 years of cycling? :)
L715[12:56:13] <transitbiker> yes, and actually the bicycle that we know of today developed in the late middle 19th century
L716[12:57:45] <transitbiker> fun fact: the standard or "penny farthing" style bicycle was not something every average joe or jane would ride
L717[12:58:24] <Althego> hehe, these names. i like the ordinary too
L718[12:58:44] <transitbiker> typically reserved for upper class unmarried young men that were very exclusionary in their riding club memberships
L719[13:00:08] <transitbiker> the unit of measure "gear inch" is directly related to the high wheel era, where as your gear ratio is converted into the equivalent wheel diameter
L720[13:00:55] <transitbiker> in fact i find that ironic, because the introduction of gears is what lead to the high wheeler falling out of favor
L721[13:03:34] <transitbiker> i have three books right now, one on major taylor, one i've read already called "the mechanical horse" by margaret guroff that i wanted to skim over again, and a new one ive not opened yet
L722[13:04:43] <transitbiker> i had the major taylor one out before but i ran out of time before needing to return it
L723[13:06:05] <transitbiker> ok i need to add some control surfaces at the rear for pitch
L724[13:08:50] <transitbiker> are two wheesly engines enough to get 25 ton off the runway, or should i consider panthers?
L725[13:10:17] <transitbiker> i'm doing something wrong here
L726[13:10:24] <transitbiker> -.-
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L728[13:10:38] <ve2dmn> transitbiker: http://go.veloquebec.info/files/evenements/2018_VQEV_ParcoursTDI_25-50km.jpg?v=2
L729[13:10:56] <ve2dmn> and http://go.veloquebec.info/files/evenements/2018_VQEV_ParcoursTDI_65-100km.jpg?v=2g
L730[13:11:08] <ve2dmn> so 25, 50, 60 and 100km
L731[13:11:19] <transitbiker> wow nice
L732[13:11:31] <ve2dmn> roads are closed
L733[13:12:17] <transitbiker> lait is milk isnt it?
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L735[13:12:45] <transitbiker> hay mr nicededdly
L736[13:13:19] <transitbiker> funny, one of my favorite beverages for when i'm riding over 2/3 miles is chocolate milk
L737[13:13:57] <transitbiker> a bit of sugar, fat, protein, caffeine, water
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L739[13:17:59] <Eddi|zuHause> "- Removed "Request maintenance" button and related functionality" err what? that was the only way i could keep my electronics factory running...
L740[13:18:45] <transitbiker> not sure if gg or rip
L741[13:18:53] <Althego> find an other way
L742[13:19:02] <Althego> do you know the way? :)
L743[13:19:09] <ve2dmn> Eddi|zuHause: you you need more drones
L744[13:19:14] <Althego> ok, it is now an old meme
L745[13:20:04] <ve2dmn> Eddi|zuHause: Spawn more Overlords
L746[13:21:03] <Eddi|zuHause> i always have this sound "you need more ziggurats" in my ear, and i didn't even play warcraft 3 all that much
L747[13:21:51] <transitbiker> mardukes tho
L748[13:22:52] <Althego> i always hear "mothership"
L749[13:22:59] <ve2dmn> Eddi|zuHause: my life for AIUR... heu... for Nazul
L750[13:23:36] <ve2dmn> Eddi|zuHause: but yeah, once the building need maintenance, you have 10h to repair it
L751[13:24:01] <transitbiker> well this craft flies, but it's very slow
L752[13:24:02] <ve2dmn> If you cannot perform maintenance under 10h, you may have a problem
L753[13:24:10] <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, but it needs like 3 or 4 electronics for that
L754[13:24:52] <Eddi|zuHause> and it's the only source for electronics
L755[13:27:16] <ve2dmn> ok... then wait for the automaintenance?
L756[13:28:09] <ve2dmn> I'm not sure I understand. The only thing that was removed was the button
L757[13:30:07] <Eddi|zuHause> by pressing that button early, i could ensure that the next few produced electronics were dedicated for this maintenance, instead of used elsewhere
L758[13:30:46] <Eddi|zuHause> because clearly the automatic maintenance wasn't working
L759[13:30:58] <transitbiker> surviving mars?
L760[13:32:51] <Althego> i am already surviving mars. mars is there and i am still alive
L761[13:34:07] <transitbiker> -.-
L762[13:35:04] <Fluburtur> https://78.media.tumblr.com/b39c753871a621e4d06d5239d72ac8a4/tumblr_p9j6klvnnb1qewacoo2_r2_540.jpg
L763[13:36:19] <Althego> pump not included
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L765[14:01:18] <Eddi|zuHause> so, what's next? i still have this mystery rocket that is stuck on 100%, so my mystery is not completable
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L769[14:26:02] <darsie> "It would be somewhat disconcerting if all our missions to The Mun were one-way trips. Bring one back to The Mun."
L770[14:27:16] <darsie> How do you pronounce Mun? Mundane or municipal?
L771[14:27:39] <Althego> it is written as mün
L772[14:27:52] <Althego> so probably actually more like münich
L773[14:28:14] <darsie> In German?
L774[14:28:30] <Althego> on the other hand lot of people say it as mun
L775[14:28:53] <darsie> actually municipal is mjunicipal
L776[14:29:13] <Althego> i say it as a short moon
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L778[14:29:16] <darsie> mhm
L779[14:29:21] <darsie> me, too.
L780[14:29:25] <Althego> at least scott does something similar
L781[14:29:52] <darsie> Doesn't he say mun(dane)
L782[14:30:58] <Althego> yes
L783[14:31:24] <Supercheese> the only place it has the umlaut is the "Mün or bust!" on the alternate menu screen, though
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L785[14:31:37] <Supercheese> pretty much everywhere else it's just Mun
L786[14:31:46] <Althego> but that is still oficial
L787[14:31:54] <Supercheese> indeed, it's rather oddd
L788[14:31:56] <Supercheese> odd
L789[14:32:00] <Supercheese> too many d
L790[14:32:17] <Althego> yes, it was an odd d :)
L791[14:32:22] <Supercheese> an odd d oddity
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L794[14:41:31] <ve2dmn> Eddi|zuHause: https://www.reddit.com/r/SurvivingMars/comments/8ngpyv/patch_notes_curiosity_may_31_2018/dzvclwd/
L795[14:51:07] <ve2dmn> hum... Next Month's Humble Bundle includes Heart of Irons
L796[14:51:17] <Althego> jeremy irons?
L797[14:53:37] <ve2dmn> "Hearts of Iron IV"
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L803[15:08:16] <transitbiker> two brand new window units have arrived, however i am concerned with the electrical requirements
L804[15:08:28] <transitbiker> (air conditioners)
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L810[15:39:29] <transitbiker> pro tip: always trim a cat's claws before they grow all the way back in
L811[15:39:47] <Mat2ch> or give them something to scratch on
L812[15:40:00] <transitbiker> that actually sharpens the claws
L813[15:40:28] <ve2dmn> I think it's illegal here to de-claw a cat. Not sure about trimming
L814[15:40:54] <transitbiker> well, if they are not trimmed regularly, the can get stuck on things
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L818[15:54:20] <senray> How do I convert mean anomaly to mean anomaly at epoch?
L819[15:55:02] <ve2dmn> :D
L820[15:55:06] <ve2dmn> with Math
L821[15:55:11] <transitbiker> maths too
L822[15:55:33] <senray> lol
L823[15:55:35] <senray> What sort of math?
L824[15:56:04] <ve2dmn> https://github.com/ve2dmn/kOS-Script/blob/master/Orbit_functions.ks#L62-L76
L825[15:56:26] <senray> I have mean anomaly
L826[15:56:30] <senray> I need mean anomaly at epoch
L827[15:56:34] <senray> or maybe it's a format issue?
L828[15:56:43] <senray> KSPTOT gives me a mean anomaly of 187.970
L829[15:57:03] <senray> and the alexmoon tool needs something between 0 2pi
L830[15:57:11] <senray> so is it a format thing?
L831[15:57:20] <ve2dmn> degree vs radian ?
L832[15:57:52] <senray> that looks like it, thanks!
L833[15:58:09] <senray> Other question: What does time of periapsis passage refer to? That will be different every orbit
L834[15:59:31] <transitbiker> orbital
L835[15:59:40] <transitbiker> -brain fart-
L836[15:59:49] <ve2dmn> Sorry, can't commen. will be back in 1h
L837[16:00:08] <transitbiker> orbital duration?
L838[16:00:18] <transitbiker> something like that,
L839[16:00:32] <senray> period?
L840[16:00:48] <senray> no, it asks for a specific date
L841[16:00:48] <transitbiker> yea something
L842[16:01:20] <transitbiker> right, that's part of your flight profile
L843[16:01:38] <transitbiker> when you want to be and where coming from where and when
L844[16:02:00] <senray> it's for a launch planner that provides a porkchop plot
L845[16:02:03] <senray> so thats not it
L846[16:02:36] <transitbiker> you're aiming for a planet to fly by?
L847[16:03:27] <transitbiker> or are you trying to get capture? or just an encounter?
L848[16:04:00] <senray> it's this window
L849[16:04:01] <senray> https://www.dropbox.com/s/zcw0ba1v8aylwcd/Capture.PNG?dl=0
L850[16:05:07] <transitbiker> how long till PE once you get into orbit
L851[16:05:27] <senray> uh, no. It's asking for data about the vessel I'm meeting
L852[16:06:03] <transitbiker> oh youre doing a rendezvous, well i asked if you were aiming for a planet
L853[16:08:47] <transitbiker> in any case, catching up to another craft involves "knowing" the PE because the AP can always be easily adjusted once the correct distances are achieved, because smaller orbits are faster, and thats the number that matters, can you go that fast
L854[16:09:29] <transitbiker> once you know that you can go that fast, the est is easy
L855[16:26:28] <Fluburtur> im watching a video and the guy is suing liquid latex
L856[16:26:32] <Fluburtur> I can only imagien the smell
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L858[16:27:09] <transitbiker> prolly smells like the lil old lady from Pasadena
L859[16:27:23] <Fluburtur> no liquid latex smells horrible
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L861[16:28:13] <transitbiker> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYxPgFUjDpA
L862[16:28:13] <kmath> YouTube - Jan and Dean Live - Little Old Lady from Pasadena
L863[16:28:30] <transitbiker> burning rubber going fas
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L871[16:49:11] <transitbiker> small, medium, and large linear aerospikes should be added to ksp
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L873[16:52:35] <KrazyKrl> Or... a linear drive segment, and a linear drive endpiece.
L874[16:52:45] <KrazyKrl> Then you can have procedural linear drives.
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L876[16:54:09] <KrazyKrl> or... just a linear drive segment that may connect via snapping to the other nearby linear drive segments
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L878[16:54:25] <KrazyKrl> with the ability to decouple via tweakable in VAB.
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L883[17:09:41] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231106102693986314/452232063538429982/DSC_8983.JPG
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L895[17:52:31] <Supernovy> Evening, Gentlemen.
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L904[18:39:15] <Oppum> Does anyone know how to make a generator .cfg work properly
L905[18:40:01] <Azander> power generator?
L906[18:40:53] <Oppum> im trying to make a cheaty one that generates all the resources
L907[18:40:59] <Azander> hehehe
L908[18:41:02] <Azander> I built one
L909[18:41:13] <Oppum> when i activate it it doesn't generate anything
L910[18:41:23] <Azander> I call it a demon Battery. I use in in my sandbox when testing crafts
L911[18:43:12] <Azander> IT also does Xenon, Argon, Lf+ox, Lh2, etc
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L914[18:51:44] <Scolar_Visari> Sons and daughters of Kerbin: In the grim darkness of the near future, there is only Mun.
L915[18:54:22] <PosterRaptor> the "Journey to Duna" program has been cancelled?
L916[18:56:28] <Scolar_Visari> Insufficient snacks.
L917[19:02:40] * Scolar_Visari ponders using snacks as a requirement for new technologies in KSP.
L918[19:03:10] <Scolar_Visari> Your scientists require further SNACKS to complete research of ADVANCED ENGINEERING.
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L922[19:11:25] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231106102693986314/452262807396941845/20180602020747_1.jpg
L923[19:13:01] <Scolar_Visari> Fluburtur: I suppose those payment options are superior than having to pay for baldness?
L924[19:13:17] <Fluburtur> mullet
L925[19:14:09] * Scolar_Visari ponders if publishers/developers would simply give in and adjust game prices for inflation instead of keeping them at $60 American or below and making up the difference with DLC,
L926[19:15:30] <Scolar_Visari> At $15 a month, The Old Republic should've *given* subscribers those silly paid items for free.
L927[19:16:40] <KrazyKrl> That doesn't go well with their "White Whale Exploitation" revenue plan.
L928[19:17:03] * Scolar_Visari grumbles at existing features never being enhanced ala the rail shooting and starfighter elements.
L929[19:17:18] <Fluburtur> https://78.media.tumblr.com/aaa34717605cf29cc409cf4f8af316ff/tumblr_nz2i4eUv231sjq0vho1_540.jpg
L930[19:17:30] <Scolar_Visari> As terrible as Galaxies was, at least it felt like you were probably getting your moneys' worth before that dreadful update.
L931[19:17:39] <Fluburtur> https://78.media.tumblr.com/25ec3fbfb35e803b07ea45142393d4e0/tumblr_orrrbn8dCa1tw38cfo1_540.jpg
L932[19:18:41] <Scolar_Visari> TOR just feels like KOTOR3 but with mediocre online elements.
L933[19:19:14] * Scolar_Visari grumbles at the dastardly level design with the enormous maps that take ages to navigate ala Star Trek Online's interiors.
L934[19:19:18] <KrazyKrl> https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/706272610036790285/FA58EC7794FD47786FC25A178A2C9DF8A730DF71/
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L936[19:20:44] <Scolar_Visari> I don't recall the crew of the Enterprise having to yell at each other to communicate across the bridge, but I'm sure you'd have to do that with any Galaxy-class ship from STO https://d1u5p3l4wpay3k.cloudfront.net/sto_gamepedia/thumb/3/3a/Justice_Over_Console.jpg/800px-Justice_Over_Console.jpg?version=5d31d92bce6c117ae5ab4173c11bd9d5
L937[19:21:00] <Scolar_Visari> KrazyKrl: Is anyone there?
L938[19:21:46] <KrazyKrl> https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/924807294608438182/1DE6CEC61FACC6C64F9359A7AAE46859D2E9DCBD/
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L940[19:22:50] <Scolar_Visari> Dat periscope and armor plate would help more if they were placed in the down position.
L941[19:24:40] <KrazyKrl> What is this "safe" thing people talk about? https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1622805983459829975/9A118159DB158829B2B7F5DF18B1185E7924B78A/
L942[19:25:39] <Scolar_Visari> I believe a, "safe" is simply where you keep your missile launch codes.
L943[19:27:32] <KrazyKrl> What are these "mississillles" you speak of? https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/570024674348247491/FBFC4E35F7B5DFAF01DFDCADD83665D41E4D8F8B/
L944[19:28:37] <Scolar_Visari> They're like rockets, but not.
L945[19:29:33] * Scolar_Visari sees article, "Could Japan Have Won World War II by NOT Attacking Pearl Harbor?". Already knows answer: NOPE.
L946[19:30:20] <Supercheese> Their only winning move was not to play.
L947[19:31:37] <Scolar_Visari> Supercheese: Amusingly, that would've had to happened well before the attack on Pearl Harbor, as the petroleum and scrap metal embargoes were very bad things for the war in China.
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L949[19:31:52] <Scolar_Visari> So, the only winning move is not to play the Sino-Japanese Wars.
L950[19:32:00] <Supercheese> How about a nice game of Shogi?
L951[19:32:35] <Scolar_Visari> Mahjong.
L952[19:34:43] <Scolar_Visari> The author seems to think Pearl Harbor was a Mahanian victory, ignoring that the most important American capital ships were still afloat.
L953[19:35:32] <Scolar_Visari> And from the story's comments, "Yamamoto’s greatest mistake was not to capture the Hawaii Islands from the USA when he decided to attack Pearl Harbor".
L954[19:35:44] <Scolar_Visari> Yes, because a conquest of Hawaii was a totally realistic option.
L955[19:36:05] <Scolar_Visari> Admittedly, that's slightly less stupid than Sealion.
L956[19:37:00] <Supercheese> Unternehmen "SeeLOL"
L957[19:37:33] <KrazyKrl> Board games? But what about mah particle effects? https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/548640734165841305/3603BFA76C0D13A695BE051332F41A83EDC004F7/
L958[19:38:04] <ConductingCat> The Treaty of Portsmouth was a mistake.
L959[19:38:16] <Scolar_Visari> I almost wish some one had attempted it, as that could've led to amusing film reels of British destroyers sinking impressed riverboats with their wake.
L960[19:39:18] <Supercheese> a mistake how?
L961[19:39:27] <Scolar_Visari> Assuming they even made it across the Channel.
L962[19:40:58] * Scolar_Visari ponders if Hearts of Iron has mods that make Axis players unable to win but scores them on how well they lose.
L963[19:42:04] * PosterRaptor seems to recall an estimate that if Midway had been a flawless Japanese victory, it would have bought maybe 6 months.
L964[19:42:14] <Supercheese> Endsieg mod is kinda like that
L965[19:42:16] <Scolar_Visari> Oh dear, "I don't know if Japan could have but it's a very possible scenario that Hitler would have taken Britian and then started across the ocean."
L966[19:42:42] <Scolar_Visari> PosterRaptor: That would've required lots of savescumming though.
L967[19:43:23] <Scolar_Visari> The World War II players were all using Ironman mode, so no saving.
L968[19:43:32] <Supercheese> Japan can easily win WW2, just gotta flip democratic and join allies
L969[19:43:34] <Supercheese> simple
L970[19:43:46] <PosterRaptor> hah
L971[19:44:37] <Supercheese> or the Unthinkable option: flip communist and ally with Soviets
L972[19:44:38] <Scolar_Visari> Supercheese: There was at least one coup attempt during the war period.
L973[19:44:57] * Scolar_Visari ponders communist rebellions in Japan ala Germany's WWI mutinies.
L974[19:45:13] <Scolar_Visari> Only successful.
L975[19:46:37] <Scolar_Visari> I think the most realistic path to success was to join ADVENT and use Chryssalid reinforcements.
L976[19:48:17] <Scolar_Visari> Or maybe have the Chosen Hunter show up and fight Roosevelt, only to find out the president's was in a wheelchair because he was cybernetically enhanced into an XCOM MEC.
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L991[20:22:32] <Draconiator> Introducing - SalLock! The brains over at the KSC Development Center came up with a brand NEW way to secure our assets. It scans your DNA! The only downside is you have to lick it...
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L993[20:31:07] <PosterRaptor> Please do not lick the science.
L994[20:31:15] *** PosterRaptor is now known as UmbralRaptor
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L996[20:49:16] <Rokker> https://picturearchive.gunauction.com/238455/9534746/acfac05.jpg
L997[20:49:19] <Rokker> fast bois
L998[21:00:34] <ConductingCat> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u429Qgvoxw4
L999[21:00:34] <kmath> YouTube - Never Do a Superhero Landing
L1000[21:06:24] <Rokker> ConductingCat: copying ideas off deadpool are we?
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L1009[21:48:03] <senray> With CommNet, do I need a large antenna at both the craft and the receiver?
L1010[21:50:14] <UmbralRaptor> Not sure what you mean.
L1011[21:50:41] <UmbralRaptor> Are you using a craft to extend the commnet range?
L1012[21:50:51] <senray> yeah
L1013[21:51:03] <senray> Specifically, I'm using OPM and the JX2 antenna mod
L1014[21:51:20] <senray> And I'm wondering if I just need a JX2 in Kerbin orbit, or if I need one on my craft
L1015[21:51:28] <UmbralRaptor> The craft extending the range needs a relay antenna, the other one just a normal antenna.
L1016[21:51:33] <UmbralRaptor> IIRC
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L1018[21:51:57] <senray> alright, but it does need a long-range antenna
L1019[21:52:05] <senray> ...of course it does
L1020[21:52:47] <UmbralRaptor> Yes (may need to define "long")
L1021[21:53:05] <senray> Long enough to reach Kerbin if the Relay is at kerbin
L1022[21:53:27] <senray> Yeah, so the real efficient way to do this would have been if I stuck a relay at Jool.
L1023[21:53:48] <UmbralRaptor> Oops
L1024[21:53:53] <senray> yep
L1025[21:54:35] <senray> Let's see, should I drop this contract, or try to fulfill with a nuclear powered craft with a giant antenna and an enormous electric requirement
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