OCLogs: 2018-04-24.log

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L3[00:06:15] <JCB> ... so... anyone awake, or everyone just zombies tonight?

L4[00:06:58] <Althego> in the office

L5[00:07:31] <JCB> just wondering what to do with Val after getting a docking contract done. quite a bit of fuel left, even while in 250km orbit

L6[00:08:32] <JCB> sorta ala single crew type gemini mission.. shame no long duration mission contracts

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L9[00:12:00] <JCB> blurg...

L10[00:12:41] <JCB> anyways..

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L13[00:17:43] <JCB> .. sigh, net here being burping tonight it seems

L14[00:23:57] <Althego> maybe a free return around the mun?

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L17[00:40:18] <JCB> mm....

L18[00:40:45] <JCB> may have to check the delta V. though since I can't transfer fuel between the two parts..

L19[00:41:08] <Althego> send up more :)

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L22[00:50:08] <JCB> I had considered launching a crew mk1 pod docking it on...

L23[00:50:25] <JCB> get that crew transfer achievement..

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L28[01:04:17] <JCB> figuring out delta V long way.. wee

L29[01:04:22] <Gasher[work]> i have found an abomiantion https://www.micromark.com/Fractional-Digital-Caliper

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L31[01:18:27] <JCB> hmm...

L32[01:18:50] <JCB> 973dv.. only needs 762dv for free return from 250km orbit up...

L33[01:19:57] <JCB> though.. mental checklist says, lack of heatshield kills that idea

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L65[04:18:15] <GlassYuri> ...is there any risk in using a free vpn if I only use it to access sites over https?

L66[04:22:10] <Mat2ch> well, they could still track you

L67[04:22:25] <Mat2ch> if you just want to get around some local firewall: no

L68[04:23:50] <GlassYuri> I want to upload some files to a file hoster but cloudflare is giving me the authentic china experience

L69[04:24:39] <Mat2ch> check the SSL certificate, but your browser should warn you, if somebody tries to interfere with that

L70[04:46:34] <Triffid_Hunter_> GlassYuri: what's the authentic china experience?

L71[04:47:45] <Gasher[work]> being blocked by the country's firewall i guess

L72[04:47:49] <GlassYuri> Triffid_Hunter_, being blocked from accessing the site I need to just because someone in power hates me

L73[04:48:16] <GlassYuri> hmm, I just checked and either my IP changed or I was unbanned

L74[04:48:32] <Triffid_Hunter_> heh was just wondering as I'm in china at the moment

L75[04:48:53] <bees> GlassYuri: if your internet does not shut off for half an hour after trying to access google, you are not getting authentic china experience

L76[04:50:28] <GlassYuri> they never banned my account, just my IP, so I guess it was just your usual dynamic IP address BS

L77[04:50:55] <Triffid_Hunter_> bees: heh they don't do it like that, they DNS-poison the domain to black-hole IPs

L78[04:51:10] <Triffid_Hunter_> and block the proper IPs in case you sneak past the DNS poisoning

L79[04:51:54] <GlassYuri> I do think I have heard the cutting out access somewhere before though

L80[04:52:18] <GlassYuri> also that they MitM you for a while after accessing certain sites or using certain keywords

L81[04:53:28] <Triffid_Hunter_> well https makes that kinda troublesome

L82[04:53:44] <GlassYuri> supposedly they discourage https

L83[04:54:31] <GlassYuri> as in not having your site protected may help avoid being banned

L84[04:54:36] <Triffid_Hunter_> not that I've noticed, just lots of chinese website operators seem to be too inept to set it up properly

L85[04:55:07] <Triffid_Hunter_> I mean, if they really want to check all your users, they'll just come check your server since all sites that interact with chinese people are supposed to be hosted in china

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L91[05:49:53] <Fluburtur> https://78.media.tumblr.com/19606fce9dbe9aa850ca9fdd39ab45d5/tumblr_inline_p4as6sCpwM1s7enj9_500.jpg

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L94[05:55:43] <Fluburtur> https://78.media.tumblr.com/230400678f943cd0629bba024c2e256e/tumblr_p7m4w2ZBvy1qjnhqgo1_540.jpg

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L96[06:10:08] <Eclipser> I don't get it

L97[06:10:41] <Fluburtur> http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/001/204/482/14c.jpg

L98[06:11:01] <Eclipser> I don't know who that is

L99[06:11:32] <Fluburtur> you know I had to do it to em

L100[06:11:38] <Eclipser> I also don't know who the other person is

L101[06:11:43] <Eclipser> I don't know who anyone is

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L106[06:29:30] <Mat2ch> Eclipser: do you know who you are?

L107[06:31:03] <Eclipser> not sure

L108[06:34:16] <VanDisaster> who do you think you are?

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L110[06:36:53] <FASA_Guy> um

L111[06:36:57] <FASA_Guy> I need some help

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L113[06:47:45] <Truga> another cry for help goes unanswered

L114[06:53:49] <Althego> hehe

L115[06:55:29] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231106102693986314/438306858277666836/31230557_1938687999495220_6401082338695970816_n.png

L116[06:57:05] <Althego> what i a brogle

L117[07:01:50] * UmbralRaptop should complain on the forum about people who stay ~45 seconds.

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L119[07:03:20] <sandbox> Albert R. Brogle

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L121[07:12:43] <Fluburtur> I have some fuel mix left

L122[07:12:47] <Fluburtur> might make a smoke

L123[07:13:16] <Fluburtur> or cook it and keep it for later

L124[07:13:28] <Fluburtur> I kinda want to cook fuel, turn it to powder an pack it in stuff

L125[07:13:43] <Mat2ch> UmbralRaptop: oh yes, please

L126[07:13:45] <Mat2ch> :D

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L130[07:39:01] <Fluburtur> yeah only had like 17g of fuel left

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L153[09:22:04] <Fluburtur> mk4 nozzle mold ready

L154[09:22:11] <Fluburtur> and I put some grease to make it easier to release

L155[09:22:47] <Althego> rhyme is ok, now work on the rhythm

L156[09:23:06] <Fluburtur> lel

L157[09:26:53] <Rokker> Fluburtur: do you visit Richard Nakkas page

L158[09:27:08] <Althego> add more boosters

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L161[09:29:51] <Fluburtur> who is that

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L163[09:31:16] <Rokker> Fluburtur: homemade model rocket engine nerd

L164[09:31:27] <Rokker> mainly sugar rockets

L165[09:31:41] <Fluburtur> oh yeah I have seen his website

L166[09:31:55] <Rokker> Fluburtur: http://www.nakka-rocketry.net/

L167[09:33:17] <Althego> could be a ksp mod name :)Ö

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L171[09:45:42] <Fluburtur> also I started making race boats to beat deddly but I don't think I have a chance

L172[09:45:58] <Fluburtur> my first one can get to 60m/s easily but flips if I try to steer it

L173[09:46:03] <Rokker> speaking of mods

L174[09:46:12] <Rokker> Dman979: yo, can I talk to you in pm

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L181[10:11:26] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulCdoCfw-bY

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L186[10:38:08] <Draconiator> well this is interesting.....N64 emulation works with the keyboard if you set it up right. A bit clunky though but it works.

L187[10:38:45] <ve2dmn> Draconiator: wasn't there a modem/ethernet thingy for the N64 ?

L188[10:39:49] <ve2dmn> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_64_accessories#Keyboard

L189[10:40:04] <ve2dmn> 64DD keybaord was made it seems

L190[10:40:23] <APlayer> Draconiator: So, I looked up the distances between Sol and the stars of Cassiopeia

L191[10:41:04] <APlayer> The observed parallax corresponds roughly proportionally to the distance according to Wikipedia

L192[10:41:19] <APlayer> Experiment successful, I'd say. :-)

L193[10:42:11] <ve2dmn> APlayer: The measure is good for how long? 100k years?

L194[10:42:12] <Mat2ch> Althego: they miss the part about Hawking Raditation, which in fact means that black holes also loose mass and someday may loose their event horizon as well

L195[10:43:58] <APlayer> ve2dmn: From the numbers I've seen, it's less. Sirius apparently moved 30 arcsecs since it was first precisely measured and described by astronomers 1800 years ago

L196[10:44:23] <ve2dmn> Nothing is static :/

L197[10:44:49] <ve2dmn> Except maybe light-speed

L198[10:46:26] <APlayer> (3 years later: Scientists discovered the speed of light varies as the universe ages - dark energy explained)

L199[10:46:56] <Althego> hehe

L200[10:46:58] <ve2dmn> So then the only constant... is change

L201[10:47:09] <Althego> hawking radiation is really slow

L202[10:47:38] <APlayer> The decay of radioactive Caesium stays true to your expectations, though

L203[10:48:34] <Flub_ugh> im reheating some of my old cooked fuel in an empty can using a hair drier

L204[10:48:37] <Flub_ugh> can only go well

L205[10:48:59] <ve2dmn> Flub_ugh: make a video, for science

L206[10:49:00] <Mat2ch> Looks like you're building a flamethrower...

L207[10:49:06] <Mat2ch> :D

L208[10:49:08] <Mat2ch> yes!

L209[10:49:10] <Flub_ugh> I just want to make the fuel dry

L210[10:49:18] <APlayer> Oh no! Be careful with that hair drier, you might burn yourself!

L211[10:49:47] <APlayer> Also, the can might have sharp metal parts

L212[10:50:27] <Flub_ugh> uh the hair drier can make the can go to 130°c

L213[10:50:31] <Flub_ugh> along with the fuel inside

L214[10:50:36] <ve2dmn> APlayer: don't forget the papercut from taking notes

L215[10:51:23] <APlayer> ve2dmn: Oh-oh. No, this is a dangerous experiment and should not be done at home.

L216[10:53:47] <ve2dmn> I should get back in hardware hacking

L217[10:56:49] <Flub_ugh> apparently I need to wait until my fuel is half caramelized to put it i the rocket motor

L218[10:57:01] <Flub_ugh> but I thought it was bad

L219[10:58:20] <APlayer> Replace KNO3 with NH4NO3

L220[11:03:53] <Mat2ch> wait

L221[11:03:58] <Mat2ch> you need a license to get that here :P

L222[11:04:28] <Althego> one strong explosion would be to spray fine dust of flammable material on the air around the target, then just need a little flame

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L225[11:25:13] <Rokker> Flub_ugh: https://i.redd.it/s1fgz23ugrt01.jpg

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L242[12:31:00] <Althego> scott about super earths

L243[12:35:32] <ve2dmn> I wonder what is the limit of g on lifeforms

L244[12:36:08] <ve2dmn> like, above 10g, how buy can it be?

L245[12:37:37] <Althego> plants would be ok with 10g, bo trees probably

L246[12:37:57] <Althego> single celled wouldnt care much

L247[12:40:52] <ve2dmn> I know some single-cell live inside nuclear reactors, so extremophiles can be impressive

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L249[12:45:11] <Arcan> ve2dmn: i wonder if it is possible for multi-cellular organisms to evolve the kind of error correction that would be needed to survive long-term exposure to ionizing radiation

L250[12:45:41] <ve2dmn> probably a really good protein

L251[12:47:52] <Flub_ugh> I think the little things can do that

L252[12:47:55] <Flub_ugh> repair dna

L253[12:48:49] <Arcan> to fix it you need to know what it should say, though

L254[12:49:06] <Arcan> humans can repair DNA to a certain extent, but not foolproof

L255[12:49:16] <ve2dmn> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deinococcus_radiodurans

L256[12:49:41] <ve2dmn> it's in the name :D

L257[12:51:26] <ve2dmn> it's a name made-up from an ancient greek 'first name' and a Latin-based 'last name'

L258[12:52:09] <ve2dmn> "As a consequence of its hardiness, it has been nicknamed Conan the Bacterium."

L259[12:52:17] <Arcan> yes, as i thought, it has multiple copies of its genome

L260[12:53:32] <ve2dmn> in the original game of fallout series (which is anything but scientific) Mutants had 4-strand Helix instead of 2 strand helix

L261[12:54:13] <ve2dmn> I can see a number of issues with such a system, but it uses the magic of 'suspension of disbelief'

L262[12:55:36] <ve2dmn> "D. radiodurans is capable of withstanding an acute dose of 5,000 grays (Gy), or 500,000 rad, of ionizing radiation with almost no loss of viability, and an acute dose of 15,000 Gy with 37% viability."

L263[12:55:39] <RandomJeb> "i wonder if it is possible for multi-cellular organisms to evolve the kind of error correction that would be needed to survive long-term exposure to ionizing radiation" <--- how much ionizing radiation?

L264[12:55:51] <ve2dmn> "For comparison, a chest X-ray or Apollo mission involves about 1 mGy, 5 Gy can kill a human, 200-800 Gy will kill E. coli, and over 4,000 Gy will kill the radiation-resistant tardigrade."

L265[12:56:02] <RandomJeb> like at a certain point even if you're super resistant the radiation can be enough to scour away all the material

L266[12:56:41] <ve2dmn> RandomJeb: let's say, Tardigrade-level radiation survival

L267[12:56:42] <RandomJeb> so if you mean all the ionizing radiation, then the answer is no

L268[12:56:59] <RandomJeb> oh that would be way easy, tardigrades are multi-cellular

L269[12:57:14] <Arcan> RandomJeb: like, interplanetary space travel

L270[12:58:33] <RandomJeb> yeah tardigrades can do interplanetary space travel no problem

L271[12:58:37] <RandomJeb> so... solved

L272[12:58:40] <ve2dmn> "In 2003, U.S. scientists demonstrated D. radiodurans could be used as a means of information storage that might survive a nuclear catastrophe. They translated the song "It's a Small World" into a series of DNA segments 150 base pairs long, inserted these into the bacteria, and were able to retrieve them without errors 100 bacterial generations later."

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L275[12:59:29] <ve2dmn> so, if there is a nuclear war and civilization is wiped 100%, "It's a small world" might survive

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L280[13:03:15] <RandomJeb> how long did it take those bacteria to spawn 100 generations though? A few hours? A few days?

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L282[13:04:42] <ve2dmn> Source, according to Wikipedia: https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn3243

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L289[13:09:58] <ve2dmn> So... how do you make sure that a Robot heading to Mars doesn't have one of these extremophile on board?

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L294[13:10:25] <transitbiker> Let's see what this "southern gateway" is all about? Tune in! https://gaming.youtube.com/channel/UCZuDQkMA5GF3Jh29ElK3-uQ/live

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L299[13:15:35] <Arcan> ve2dmn: by being careful

L300[13:17:15] <ve2dmn> but... how?

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L303[13:36:48] <APlayer> Pick them off with Q-tips

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L306[13:41:21] <Althego> best job in the world, planetary protection officer

L307[13:42:11] <Althego> there are several levels of sterilization depending where the probe, rover, thingie goes, but uiltimately you cant make sure, probably some of the bacteria survives

L308[13:42:49] <APlayer> Just blast it with radiation and chemicals until the electronics fail -> Probe is not going anywhere -> Mission accomplished

L309[13:45:45] <ve2dmn> :D

L310[13:47:00] <ve2dmn> "We were just stress testing it and it went 'poof!'" "I would not call using an oven at 2000C 'stress-testing'"

L311[13:48:13] <APlayer> "It was just a hair drier"

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L313[13:52:25] <ve2dmn> "It's just minor damage, I'm sure the probe still works" "... it's a pile of ash on the floor"

L314[13:52:30] <Althego> whatever you do, dont put yout probe in the nasa arc jet facility

L315[13:52:48] <ve2dmn> arc jet?

L316[13:53:00] <Althego> they test heatshield materials there

L317[13:53:20] <Althego> it is like a superheated wind tunnel

L318[13:53:24] <ve2dmn> nice. I want one

L319[13:53:30] <APlayer> NICE -> NASA Incinerator Calibration Experiment

L320[13:53:35] <ve2dmn> no, I want TWO

L321[13:53:35] <Althego> hehe

L322[13:54:02] <Althego> https://www.nasa.gov/centers/ames/thermophysics-facilities/arcjet-complex

L323[13:55:01] <Gasher> lol

L324[13:55:16] <Gasher> reminds me of how my friend supervised satellite testing

L325[13:56:16] <APlayer> Did the satellite testing supervise your friend?

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L329[14:08:54] <ve2dmn> APlayer: we are all supervised by satelittes

L330[14:13:54] <Flub_ugh> Deddly I tried to make a race boat

L331[14:14:28] <Gasher> lol

L332[14:15:03] <Gasher> it was like that, they were testing its behaviour under vibration load

L333[14:15:27] <Gasher> and turns out taht the testing specified by standarts is brutal

L334[14:16:19] <ve2dmn> does it involves frozne chicken getting thrown at it?

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L337[14:23:18] <APlayer> Frozen tardigrades. No, I mean living tardigrades.

L338[14:27:49] <Flub_ugh> https://youtu.be/iLBz3sFcBAg

L339[14:29:11] <RandomJeb> living tardigrades blasted at satellites in the arcjet complex, that's how you sterilize them properly

L340[14:31:08] <Althego> hehe that video was made in budapest

L341[14:31:11] <APlayer> If tardigrades were omnivores, that could actually work

L342[14:31:29] <ve2dmn> what do they eat?

L343[14:32:55] <Althego> curious canadians :)

L344[14:33:21] <Flub_ugh> https://youtu.be/NwOtZnjqKGA

L345[14:35:46] <Althego> not a complicated shape

L346[14:36:01] <Althego> this would be better done with a mould

L347[14:36:35] <Flub_ugh> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHbI_B2sPA0

L348[14:38:22] <Althego> painful

L349[14:40:04] <ve2dmn> Althego: so Tardigrades are vampire-like being living off Coffee-and-maple infused-blood ?

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L353[14:40:42] <Althego> since they are literally everywhere, that cant be the case

L354[14:41:27] <ve2dmn> Then they probably live off left socks, because I seem to lose mine all the time

L355[14:42:01] <Althego> hehe, when al bundy's used socks saved the galaxy :)

L356[14:42:09] <Gasher> ve2dmn, no, chicken was in the story about the other my friend lol

L357[14:42:46] <ve2dmn> Gasher: you've seen that mythbuster episode, right?

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L359[14:43:17] <Gasher> ve2dmn, i heard a story from aircraft engine testing by that friend and the chicken cannon

L360[14:44:13] <ve2dmn> "Prepare to be served Chicken! Fire the Chicken Cannons!"

L361[14:44:45] <ve2dmn> (this need to be added to BDA)

L362[14:46:42] <APlayer> Fluburtur: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TJA5vokRpE

L363[14:48:19] <Althego> lol coolant into the coffee

L364[14:48:31] <Althego> dont drink that

L365[14:49:12] <APlayer> I think that's supposed to be fed with milk

L366[14:49:33] <APlayer> Much rather, don't eat the apple out of the CNC machine

L367[14:49:43] <Althego> that too

L368[14:50:07] <UmbralRaptor> o_O

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L371[14:51:11] <APlayer> Death by internet shock

L372[14:51:16] <APlayer> Oh, no, not death

L373[14:51:38] <APlayer> BRB, anyway

L374[14:51:56] <Althego> do not use the internet over the age limit

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L376[14:54:24] <UmbralRaptop> Peer agrees.

L377[14:54:38] <ve2dmn> take one internet every 4h, repeat if necessary. Do not take more then 16 internets per day.

L378[14:55:00] <UmbralRaptop> 64 hour days?

L379[14:56:13] <Rokker> https://youtu.be/qJvaet-4T5k

L380[14:57:51] <UmbralRaptop> TARGA?

L381[14:58:20] <UmbralRaptop> TRIGA, maybe.

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L383[14:59:38] <Rokker> UmbralRaptop: targa

L384[14:59:55] <Rokker> UmbralRaptop: you know what I love

L385[15:00:26] <Rokker> nuclear reactors are so dangerous that they've only really killed 3 people in the entire US

L386[15:00:38] <Rokker> and that's mainly cause of questionable reactor design

L387[15:01:06] <UmbralRaptop> Only SL-1? Hm

L388[15:01:17] <Rokker> yeah

L389[15:01:48] <Rokker> UmbralRaptop: to be fair, some of that is luck

L390[15:03:52] <Rokker> UmbralRaptop: hmm wait, there might have been one other accident

L391[15:03:59] <SnoopJeDi> UmbralRaptop, what about TRIGA?

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L393[15:04:44] <Rokker> UmbralRaptop: most nuclear plant deaths seem to be pipe bursts or electrocution

L394[15:06:07] <UmbralRaptop> SnoopJeDi: complaining that it looked mispelled in the video.

L395[15:06:38] <SnoopJeDi> ah

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L398[15:08:01] <NGC3982> im trying to land refueling rockets on minmus, but my struts keep breaking

L399[15:08:06] <NGC3982> in like 1m/s :(.

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L403[15:13:57] <NGC3982> https://steamcommunity.com/app/220200/discussions/0/1697169163395439652/?ctp=2

L404[15:14:00] <NGC3982> oh!

L405[15:14:20] <Draconiator> https://i.gyazo.com/3345501b9258d614649d6e8f77b6da85.jpg

L406[15:14:58] <Dman979> Rokker, if you're still there, I'm a bit busy right now

L407[15:15:15] <Dman979> I'll let you know when I can talk, though

L408[15:16:39] <Rokker> ight

L409[15:17:02] <Arcan> there have been very few radiological incidents with reactors

L410[15:21:21] <UmbralRaptop> Mostly around fuel/waste handling, I think.

L411[15:21:53] * UmbralRaptop stares at Kyshtym.

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L420[16:09:38] <Flub_ugh> ahhh I founda video about correct handling of murikan planes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4CX-9lkRMQ

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L423[16:15:26] <ve2dmn> The battle of the egos continues...

L424[16:15:34] <Flub_ugh> heh

L425[16:16:50] <Flub_ugh> k time to watch a movie now

L426[16:16:59] <Flub_ugh> watched red tide yesterday, was pretty nice

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L433[16:30:57] <Flub_ugh> does weezer use standard tuning like ever?

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L452[17:51:01] <Dman979> Hey Rokker, I can chat for a bit now.

L453[17:52:36] <Rokker> cool

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L455[17:56:28] <Rokker> Dman979: I messaged you

L456[17:57:21] <Dman979> I see it, I'm just typing a reply

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L458[17:57:41] <Dman979> :)

L459[17:59:01] <Rokker> ?

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L461[18:15:21] <Rokker> Flub_ugh: ooooo

L462[18:15:56] <Rokker> the air force as requested 200 million to change some planes into some other planes

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L464[18:16:27] <Flub_ugh> like do magic and poof new plane?

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L466[18:16:55] <KrazyKrl> if you call A&P magic... sure.

L467[18:17:20] <UmbralRaptor> F-28.5?

L468[18:17:50] <KrazyKrl> "The aircraft literally brighter than the sun"

L469[18:18:11] <Flub_ugh> they should start making licence built su-35

L470[18:18:17] <Rokker> Flub_ugh: gonna convert some fuelybois into some sniffyboys

L471[18:18:25] <Flub_ugh> but I doubt you can get stalinium in the usa

L472[18:18:29] <Rokker> Flub_ugh: we already produce target drones

L473[18:18:55] <Rokker> that's the only thing the Su-35 is good for, target practice

L474[18:19:13] <Flub_ugh> you misspeled f-35

L475[18:19:23] <Rokker> anyways

L476[18:19:27] <KrazyKrl> then you see this and go nononononono: https://i.imgur.com/mNKnaP5.mp4

L477[18:19:48] <Rokker> KC-135Rs into WC-135(unknown letter)

L478[18:23:19] <Rokker> huh

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L480[18:23:46] <Rokker> there's a BA-810 model near the flapjack at frontiers of flight museum https://www.google.com/search?q=beal+rocket+engine&client=ms-android-verizon&prmd=sniv&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwicpI_N69PaAhUFT98KHcEpAAYQ_AUIEygD&biw=412&bih=766&dpr=2.63#imgrc=PuNvMM90s24syM:

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L483[18:41:52] <Flub_ugh> https://youtu.be/JrH78bldJQc

L484[18:41:52] <kmath> YouTube - Slope flying a Heli

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L486[18:51:24] <Scolar_Visari> Sons and daughters of Kerbin: To preserve causality, the following messages are being charged to your accounts classically.

L487[18:51:59] <Flub_ugh> Scolar_Visari how well do helis glide?

L488[18:53:15] <Scolar_Visari> Flub: autorotation works kinda I guess

L489[18:53:23] <Flub_ugh> https://youtu.be/JrH78bldJQc

L490[18:53:23] <kmath> YouTube - Slope flying a Heli

L491[18:53:41] * Scolar_Visari Would still not like to be in a helicopter with no power to the rotating wing part

L492[18:53:57] <Flub_ugh> don't go on a autogyro ride then

L493[18:54:55] <Scolar_Visari> I was thinking of a helicopter under fire. Typically , I avoid war zones

L494[18:55:19] <Scolar_Visari> Except for that one incident dramatized in Blue Thunder and Airwolf

L495[18:58:18] <Flub_ugh> what kind of helis do you usualy fly?

L496[18:59:11] <Scolar_Visari> The kind that transform into Decepticons

L497[18:59:45] <Flub_ugh> uh

L498[18:59:49] <Flub_ugh> that kinda makes sense

L499[19:00:51] <Rokker> Scolar_Visari: I've discovered the last remnant of the beal aerospace program

L500[19:01:05] <Rokker> it's at the frontiers of flight museum, near the flying flapjack

L501[19:01:26] * Scolar_Visari is actually a GoBot but is too ashamed to admit it. So.

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L508[19:07:48] <Scolar_Visari> "We must turn our attention to research which has been ignored for one century - the research of overunity and cold fusion energy."

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L511[19:10:07] <Scolar_Visari> That statement is just as valid if you replace " overunity and cold fusion energy" with, "Unicron and energon cubes".

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L516[19:13:16] <Kalpa> The heck is overunity

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L519[19:14:53] <Scolar_Visari> Perpetual motion

L520[19:16:35] <Scolar_Visari> It's like how some people call cold fusion low energy nuclear reaction instead to avoid getting laughed at immediately

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L522[19:18:44] <Scolar_Visari> Teehee https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_Magnetic_Overunity_Toy

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L543[21:13:23] <JCB> hmm...

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L545[21:15:50] <JCB> well.. upgrading the R&D would be nice. means not going to waste fuel on a little tug.. before I toss it back down into the planet

L546[21:16:09] <JCB> will cut my funds down to 185k..

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L568[23:55:37] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ko9V8-3iwWM

L569[23:55:38] <kmath> YouTube - KSP - Space Elevator

L570[23:55:41] <Althego> but it should use wheels

L571[23:56:04] <Althego> the elevator music lol

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