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L3[00:24:46] <BadRocketsCo> Howdy
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L7[00:37:19] <TheKosmonaut> BadRocketsCo: hey
L8[00:37:22] <TheKosmonaut> How's Estonia
L9[00:38:05] <BadRocketsCo> Cold, dark and rainy.
L10[00:38:12] <BadRocketsCo> So nothing new :S
L11[00:38:57] <BadRocketsCo> The good news is that we don't have any russian bases in here just yet. :D
L12[00:39:50] <TheKosmonaut> BadRocketsCo: watch out.
L13[00:40:17] <TheKosmonaut> If you see any stay migs, don't feed them
L14[00:41:14] <BadRocketsCo> Heh, deal.
L15[00:42:57] <Gasher[work]> cold dark rainy is basically three colors of its flag :)
L16[00:47:37] <BadRocketsCo> Touché
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L19[00:52:08] <BadRocketsCo> TheKosmonaut: btw, did you see this? https://imgur.com/a/xizfP
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L21[00:52:58] <TheKosmonaut> BadRocketsCo: that is a nice rocket
L22[00:53:13] <TheKosmonaut> Color scheme reminds me of early Japanese rockets
L23[00:54:43] <BadRocketsCo> Kinda what I was going for, yeah
L24[00:55:17] <BadRocketsCo> TheKosmonaut: also, this: https://imgur.com/a/buxzG
L25[00:56:16] <Rokker> BadRocketsCo: ...
L26[00:56:18] <Rokker> ......
L27[00:56:21] <Rokker> ........................
L28[00:56:23] <TheKosmonaut> Rokker will not be pleased
L29[00:56:39] <Rokker> BadRocketsCo: you disgust me
L30[00:56:42] <TheKosmonaut> Lol speak of the devil
L31[00:56:51] <Gasher[work]> lol
L32[00:58:19] <BadRocketsCo> Rokker: huh? :D
L33[00:58:49] <BadRocketsCo> Oh, it's the NK15, isn't it? :D
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L35[01:02:18] <Rokker> BadRocketsCo: disgusting
L36[01:02:50] <Rokker> BadRocketsCo: it's the fact that you stuck it with an RL10
L37[01:03:00] <Rokker> the RL10 deserves better
L38[01:03:52] <BadRocketsCo> The NK15 is a great engine, mkay? :D
L39[01:04:24] <BadRocketsCo> I'm not even going to ask your opinion on the Atlas V then... :D
L40[01:06:22] <Rokker> BadRocketsCo: I like the Atlas V more than I like the NK family, to say the least
L41[01:06:43] <BadRocketsCo> What's wrong with the NK family?
L42[01:08:11] <Rokker> BadRocketsCo: killed a Cygnus and an entire moon program
L43[01:09:25] <BadRocketsCo> The Antares used the US modified version and the soviet moon rocket was doomed because of the ammount of engines and a really crappy software program...
L44[01:10:06] <Rokker> the only modifications made were to try and make sure it wouldn't explode, which it still found a way to do
L45[01:10:28] <Althego> if the moon race had continued there would be permanent bases on the moon now. sadly not much has happened in space
L46[01:10:44] <Rokker> BadRocketsCo: the weak point of atlas and antares are the Russian engines
L47[01:11:09] <Rokker> also
L48[01:11:11] <Rokker> ALSO
L49[01:11:18] <Rokker> BadRocketsCo: ALSOOOO
L50[01:11:38] <BadRocketsCo> Rokker: the success % of Atlas V claims otherwise :D
L51[01:12:10] <Rokker> THEY WOULDNT HAVE NEEDED THAT MANY ENGINES IF KUZETSOV COULD BUILD AN ENGINE
L52[01:12:45] <Rokker> BadRocketsCo: it's most recent partial failure tells me that centaur is exceptional despite the crappy first stage
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L54[01:14:44] <BadRocketsCo> It's 1 partial failure...
L55[01:15:06] <Rokker> BadRocketsCo: still clearly the weak point
L56[01:15:18] <BadRocketsCo> That's still a 98.7% success rate.
L57[01:15:22] <Rokker> rocket engines shouldn't be shutting down a whole second too early
L58[01:15:35] <Rokker> and yet the RD-180 did
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L60[01:17:52] <Neal> xkcd 1319 has defined my life ever since I learned programming
L61[01:18:21] <Neal> https://xkcd.com/1319/
L62[01:18:49] <BadRocketsCo> Rokker: Saturn V begs to differ.
L63[01:19:44] <Gasher[work]> Neal, mouseover lol
L64[01:20:11] <Rokker> Neal: elon learned that the hard wY
L65[01:20:13] <Rokker> way
L66[01:20:35] <Neal> with tesla you mean?
L67[01:20:51] <Rokker> ye
L68[01:21:19] <Althego> lol automating
L69[01:23:19] <Gasher[work]> Althego, makes me think of what automaton really is
L70[01:24:11] <BadRocketsCo> Rokker: if it makes you any happier then I am currently launching some pure american stuff.
L71[01:25:00] <BadRocketsCo> 4xE1, 1xLR87-LH2, 2x RL10
L72[01:25:29] <BadRocketsCo> Aaaand it just had an loss of performance in one of the E1s...
L73[01:27:41] <Rokker> BadRocketsCo: must have had Russian hardware
L74[01:28:14] <Rokker> BadRocketsCo: that sounds like a derpy sat v
L75[01:28:53] <BadRocketsCo> It kinda is, yeah. Didn't want to launch it on the mess that is the Proton...
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L77[01:32:26] <BadRocketsCo> Rokker: a unmanned sample return, btw
L78[01:40:59] <Rokker> ooo, i just discovered a suppressor i want
L79[01:41:12] <Rokker> now i just need to find a gun to stick it on
L80[01:41:41] <TheKosmonaut> You dont even have a gun
L81[01:41:50] <TheKosmonaut> Or did your daddy finally say it's ok?
L82[01:42:15] <Rokker> TheKosmonaut: if i get a suppressor he will never know i have it
L83[01:42:33] <TheKosmonaut> Unless you get a Welrod, I think he'll know.
L84[01:42:43] <TheKosmonaut> You should just make your own.
L85[01:42:58] <KrazyKrl> If you need crushed crackers for a recipie... it's a snack presser.
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L87[01:45:11] <TheKosmonaut> https://imgur.com/a/GPiLV
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L89[01:45:19] <TheKosmonaut> Rokker: There's your gun
L90[01:51:24] <Gasher[work]> TheKosmonaut, lol. Also i have just recently read what rustoleum is
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L93[01:54:31] <Gasher[work]> reminds me of that disclaimer on one forum "Lead pipes tied to logs with metal wire do not belong to the category "Muzzle-loading firearms"
L94[02:01:50] <Rokker> Gasher[work]: tell that to people in the balkans
L95[02:02:21] <Gasher[work]> lol. who needs those when you can have AKs
L96[02:03:41] <TheKosmonaut> I heard in Russia, during springtime, you can just go to the fields for the 2 days that there is no snow and find AKs sprouting from the ground
L97[02:03:54] <TheKosmonaut> The problem is trying to get there when there are trillions of flies in the air
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L99[02:05:52] <Gasher[work]> i have read some articles on soviet and german mines and artillry fuzes of ww2 and i just don't want to go in the forests
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L148[08:31:55] <Fluburtur> great news
L149[08:32:01] <Fluburtur> I got plaster
L150[08:34:55] <Epi> broke something?
L151[08:35:16] <Fluburtur> nah is to make my new rocket nozzles
L152[08:35:23] <Fluburtur> hardens quickly
L153[08:35:36] <Fluburtur> and more durable than the crap cement I had
L154[08:35:43] <Fluburtur> would break if you looked too hard
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L156[08:35:51] <Fluburtur> however the plaster might erode more
L157[08:35:54] <Arcan> i know someone who got rocket nozzles cast from copper
L158[08:36:22] <Epi> the plaster moulds i've made many years ago are super fragile now
L159[08:36:28] <APlayer> It'd certainly be a possibility to 3D print wax molds and cast them in copper or so.
L160[08:36:49] <Fluburtur> I don't have crap to melt copper
L161[08:36:52] <Arcan> APlayer: these were college students doing grad research or sth
L162[08:36:56] <Fluburtur> and honnestly I don't want to right now
L163[08:36:59] <Arcan> they had them professionally made
L164[08:37:05] <Fluburtur> I need to get a nozzle design that works first
L165[08:37:22] <APlayer> Arcan: Well, then
L166[08:37:59] <Epi> also air bubbles- had to tap the moulds 100's of times. These were character moulds like pluto/mickymouse
L167[08:38:22] <Arcan> but in theory, you could do it yourself
L168[08:38:41] <Arcan> i saw instructions for making an arc furnace using lamp batteries and firebrick
L169[08:39:19] <Fluburtur> aluminium is fairly easy to melt so I could do that
L170[08:39:46] <Fluburtur> but I would rather use a turned nozzle than a cast onebut I don't have a lathe either
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L172[08:53:17] <ve2dmn> it's morning: http://6dollarshirts.com/theres-too-much-blood-in-my-caffeine-system
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L200[10:33:26] <Notagoodastronaut> Hey ho
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L204[10:39:57] <Notagoodastronaut> does anybody of you use the soviet engine mod?
L205[10:41:02] <Notagoodastronaut> I cant gimble when using the RD-124 a a booster engine (Soyouzlike rocket)
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L212[10:46:12] <Fluburtur> Mat2ch v
L213[10:46:13] <Fluburtur> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZBb0jidgwQ
L214[10:46:14] <kmath> YouTube - Conveyer Belt Marble Lift - Marble Machine X #33
L215[10:47:45] <APlayer> So, there was that five years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqW0LEcTAYg
L216[10:47:46] <kmath> YouTube - Proton M rocket explosion July 2 2013 slow motion full HD
L217[10:48:38] <APlayer> One question that keeps bugging me: Shouldn't the electronics or at least human flight controllers have disabled the engines and vented the fuel rather than burning downwards at this point?
L218[10:48:59] <Fluburtur> reaction time I guess
L219[10:49:07] <APlayer> They had a good 30 seconds
L220[10:49:09] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: all those lifting systems look like they have lots of friction
L221[10:49:25] <Fluburtur> his previous idea used linear bearings
L222[10:49:39] <Fluburtur> but well, maybe he will be able to lift marbles
L223[10:49:44] <Fluburtur> one day
L224[10:49:58] <Fluburtur> APlayer I don't think ground crew have much control over the rocket
L225[10:50:00] <APlayer> If that's not enough reaction time, then they are not required at all. The flight controllers are there to take decisions on a moment's notice
L226[10:50:08] <Fluburtur> they look at telemetry and press the big red button if neede
L227[10:50:22] <Fluburtur> the rocket's flight computer does most of the job
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L229[10:51:56] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: pneumatic marble accelerator?
L230[10:51:57] <Mat2ch> :D
L231[10:52:04] <Fluburtur> heh
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L233[10:52:17] <Fluburtur> he should call akiyuki
L234[10:52:26] <Fluburtur> the dude that makes nice lego gbc stuff
L235[10:52:51] <Notagoodastronaut> Sorry for asking again, but why is there no ascent guidence then using mechjeb?
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L239[10:54:40] <RandomJeb> should there be?
L240[10:55:16] <Fluburtur> lmao martin freaking out over a mosquitto
L241[10:55:26] <Guest87736> Has there been any talk about a virtual reality version of KSP? Wouldn't it be cool to fly your own aircraft from inside the flight deck? Or watch one of your rovers go by watching with your VR headset?
L242[10:55:54] <RandomJeb> I think there's a mod for that
L243[10:57:03] <Fluburtur> Mat2ch he should make some sort of magnet flywheel that sends balls flying up and they land into a bucket
L244[10:57:06] <Fluburtur> would work I think
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L246[10:59:45] <ve2dmn> Guest87736: The game is not 100% planned to be able to do everything from the cockpit, but it's not impossible if you know what you are doing
L247[10:59:53] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: not really a mosquito. Those things are harmless. I always catch them and throw them out
L248[11:00:07] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: hehe, sounds crazy enough for him. :D
L249[11:00:23] <ve2dmn> (just need the right infomation available in the dashboard... or maybe the kOS mod)
L250[11:00:28] <Fluburtur> sounds like I need to send him my drawing of that
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L253[11:02:41] <Fluburtur> on another note, the first mk4 nozzle is out of the mold
L254[11:04:43] <ve2dmn> Fluburtur: printed on your gamingPC ?
L255[11:04:54] <Fluburtur> yes the mold was printed
L256[11:04:59] <Fluburtur> but I need to make enw fuel
L257[11:05:21] <Fluburtur> I put grease on the mold this time and it made releasse fo the nozzle really easy
L258[11:10:37] <ve2dmn> Notagoodastronaut: what do you mean?
L259[11:23:06] <Notagoodastronaut> with mechjeb2 you should have the option for an ascend guidance, but in my case the option is missing.
L260[11:23:38] <Guest87736> So there is a plan for KSP VR? I just got Skyrim VR. It was sold as a new game because of the work involved in porting it into a 3D platform. KSP VR would have to be sold as a new game for the same reason. There would be a lot of work changing the game from a keyboard to touch controllers. But it would be a great game.
L261[11:27:40] <ve2dmn> Guest87736: no plans
L262[11:28:01] <ve2dmn> but Unity would probably support such an endavor
L263[11:29:14] <Mat2ch> Notagoodastronaut: are you playing sandbox or career?
L264[11:29:28] <Notagoodastronaut> carreer
L265[11:30:23] <Fluburtur> the tiny 5sw amps I got are working
L266[11:30:46] <Mat2ch> early in career? Afaik Mechjeb has a few nodes where you can get additional features
L267[11:33:33] <Notagoodastronaut> @Mat2h, yes kinda early.
L268[11:34:51] <Notagoodastronaut> and a second question, is it normal that I cant stear with liquid boosters? I'm using procedural tanks and the soviet engines.
L269[11:35:02] <Mat2ch> have a look through the science nodes in the R&D building, there should be some more nodes with the mechjeb module where it says what features you get
L270[11:35:10] <Notagoodastronaut> (replica of the R-7, Soyouz, etc
L271[11:35:27] <Mat2ch> Depends. What kind of steering vector do those engines have?
L272[11:35:30] <Rokker> Fluburtur: https://i.redd.it/bykdegcob1u01.jpg
L273[11:35:41] <Mat2ch> Have a look at the engines description
L274[11:35:43] <Fluburtur> lmao
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L276[11:36:58] <Notagoodastronaut> because the rockets only responds after detaching the 'boosters' and I'm using the same engine for the whole 1st stage. So 5x RD0124.
L277[11:37:15] <Notagoodastronaut> four for the booster and one for the center stage
L278[11:41:00] <APlayer> (T-1:17:00)
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L281[11:45:10] <Fluburtur> https://youtu.be/yA9TaiAF1RA
L282[11:45:10] <kmath> YouTube - mini amp test
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L284[11:49:15] <Mat2ch> the noise you hear when you turn it up is when the amp is at its limit and can't provide more power
L285[11:49:33] <Fluburtur> might be the speaker actually
L286[11:49:34] <Mat2ch> do it too long and you'll burn the coils in the speakers :)
L287[11:49:41] <Fluburtur> the amp is rated at 5W and the speaker too
L288[11:50:33] <Fluburtur> this is made to go in a tf2 sentry turret so it needs to be heard easily inside noisy convetion halls
L289[11:50:40] <Fluburtur> so I guess it is good enough
L290[11:51:43] <APlayer> Let's see how Eurockot does with their livestreams. Because I was disappointed by Arianespace.
L291[11:51:59] <Fluburtur> this thing can probably drive the cab I made for the guitar amp
L292[11:52:40] <kubi> pf
L293[11:52:47] <kubi> still 1.4.2?
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L295[11:58:06] <VanD> is there a higher than 720p stream of that launch somewhere?
L296[12:04:06] <APlayer> VanD: I found no official sources with higher resolution
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L308[12:27:54] <ve2dmn> kids theses days... in my days we watched videos in 320i and we liked it
L309[12:29:34] <ve2dmn> and we took pictures on a floppy disk!
L310[12:29:57] <ve2dmn> ... I was not go back to theses days TBH
L311[12:30:01] <ve2dmn> would*
L312[12:30:24] <VanD> 320i? is that svhs?
L313[12:31:00] <APlayer> Livestream is up with commentary and music
L314[12:31:11] <ve2dmn> no... it was some gif I downloaded at 14.4k
L315[12:31:12] <Fluburtur> link?
L316[12:31:19] <APlayer> https://livestream.com/accounts/362/events/8163264
L317[12:31:20] <ve2dmn> https://livestream.com/accounts/362/events/8163264/player
L318[12:31:32] <APlayer> Ninja'd
L319[12:32:09] <Fluburtur> btw does anyone know how to use a sd card reader with an arduino nano
L320[12:32:13] <VanD> PAL TV is 576x250
L321[12:33:05] <APlayer> Fluburtur: Depends on which reader you have
L322[12:33:28] <Fluburtur> the one without a whole bunch of pins
L323[12:33:34] <Fluburtur> only the SPI ones
L324[12:33:41] <APlayer> Usually they interface via I2C and you can just send the data per library, which implements the SD protocol (or whatever protocol that is)
L325[12:33:57] <APlayer> I guess there are SPI libraries too
L326[12:34:13] <APlayer> Otherwise, I suggest #arduino on freenode
L327[12:34:18] <Fluburtur> but idk what pins to use
L328[12:34:27] <Fluburtur> the examples all use the uno
L329[12:34:38] <APlayer> Ah, the pins
L330[12:35:08] <ve2dmn> green for launch
L331[12:35:14] <APlayer> SD CS pin goes to an arbitrary pin on the nano, which you turn on when you want to communicate with it
L332[12:35:38] <Fluburtur> they seem to be pre-defined in the library
L333[12:35:49] <APlayer> Well, then use that
L334[12:36:17] <Fluburtur> yeah but the pre-defined pins for the uno don't all exist on the nano
L335[12:36:26] <Fluburtur> guess I will go bother the arduino irc later
L336[12:36:27] <APlayer> SD card MOSI goes to nano MISO, and SD SCK goes to nano SCK
L337[12:37:10] <APlayer> The numbers for those (which are fixed by hardware) can be looked up on Google
L338[12:37:23] <Fluburtur> yeah
L339[12:37:35] <Fluburtur> actually I think my only problem is the chip select pin
L340[12:37:50] <APlayer> Should find that in the library, 90% sure it's in a #define
L341[12:39:08] <APlayer> Try 10 for CS
L342[12:39:18] <APlayer> https://forum.arduino.cc/index.php?topic=131758.0
L343[12:39:43] <Fluburtur> alright thanks
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L345[12:41:26] <Fluburtur> my goal here is to play music from the sd card
L346[12:41:30] <Fluburtur> I know that it is possible
L347[12:41:48] <APlayer> Sounds like a lot of data for the nano
L348[12:42:11] <Fluburtur> well it is supposed to be the same cpu as the mega
L349[12:42:52] <APlayer> Pretty sure it can't stream even a very low res video to/from the SD card
L350[12:43:23] <Fluburtur> peoples can play music with a uno from a sd card
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L352[12:43:28] <Fluburtur> so shouldn't be much harder
L353[12:43:35] <Fluburtur> and I don't want to order more board
L354[12:43:55] <Fluburtur> the sentry turret will already have two nanos in the head
L355[12:45:55] <Draconiator> https://www.ebay.com/itm/15x15x4-mm-Super-Small-Brushless-DC-Fan-Ultra-Tiny-Miniature-Mini-Micro-Smallest-/181152651845
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L358[12:46:34] <Mat2ch> 10 $ is expensive for such a tiny thing
L359[12:46:45] <APlayer> Guys, stop showing me earth observation company ads, I want rocket.
L360[12:47:42] <Mat2ch> I want a warp drive. Do I get it? No. No warp drive for me. :|
L361[12:48:11] <APlayer> T-0:10:00
L362[12:48:17] <ve2dmn> Mat2ch: I want a pony.
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L368[12:49:58] <UmbralRaptor> ve2dmn: fortunately, Zaͣlgoͦ is Tony the Pony!
L369[12:50:12] <UmbralRaptor> (Source: that stack overflow post)
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L372[12:51:34] <Deddly> Hey Fluburtur, how did your boating project go for you?
L373[12:51:59] <Fluburtur> I have a boat that can go 60m/s but flips if I try to turn
L374[12:52:09] <APlayer> LOL, they are interviewing a guy on the live stream via Skype or similar
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L376[12:52:45] <Fluburtur> btw I have a new rocket nozzle ready, will test fire it tomorrow I think
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L378[12:54:05] <Fluburtur> I guess the fairings are vented somewhere
L379[12:54:18] <Fluburtur> or are they not and the presure makes it separate?
L380[12:55:49] <APlayer> T-2 min
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L382[12:57:57] <ve2dmn> T-10sec
L383[12:58:27] <Fluburtur> my stream is freezing
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L385[12:58:34] <VanD> "did anyone call NORAD"?
L386[12:58:57] <Fluburtur> nice twr
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L388[12:59:27] <ve2dmn> Fluburtur: that is what you get with re-used missiles
L389[12:59:46] * APlayer approves of live stream quality
L390[12:59:55] <Mat2ch> ve2dmn: no pony for you until I get my warp ship.
L391[13:00:11] <APlayer> Bonus data for nerds: Check, no ads after liftoff: check
L392[13:00:53] <ve2dmn> perfect time for europe: check
L393[13:01:53] <Fluburtur> stream lagging like hell: check
L394[13:02:29] <APlayer> I second ve2dmn here
L395[13:02:35] <NomalRaptor> ICBM with a payload known as "boom" launching north: uh…
L396[13:03:05] <ve2dmn> APlayer: I'm sitting at work
L397[13:03:58] <ve2dmn> NomalRaptor: I checked and, yes, I remember THAT stackoverflow post
L398[13:05:14] * APlayer loves the data plots
L399[13:05:35] <APlayer> Could write a script to export the trajectory data from the video and re-use in kOS
L400[13:05:46] <ve2dmn> NomalRaptor: there's also this one: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/5508110/why-is-this-program-erroneously-rejected-by-three-c-compilers
L401[13:06:13] <APlayer> Argh, there go the mid-launch ads
L402[13:06:24] <Mat2ch> uhm, Rockot, a Russian ICBM which is commercialized by a company 51 % owned by EADS. Crazy stuff.
L403[13:06:26] <APlayer> No ads after liftoff: Uncheck
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L406[13:08:34] <ve2dmn> APlayer: they need ads for nerds
L407[13:09:20] <Deddly> What ads?
L408[13:09:36] <ve2dmn> like, explain in plain language what the mission is, while showing tons of data with a hidden 'if you can decode this, send your resume to X@Y.com'
L409[13:10:01] <Deddly> Oh
L410[13:10:21] <Deddly> I didn't notice anything like that
L411[13:11:02] <ve2dmn> sadly
L412[13:11:18] <APlayer> So, don't send them your resume
L413[13:11:21] <APlayer> No, j/k :P
L414[13:11:30] <Draconiator> https://i.gyazo.com/7ffe9f8395fdf7562ccf427502bfe41c.png - I think I'm gonna call this piece of land "Lago del Kerbo", because it looks like Spain
L415[13:11:30] <ve2dmn> instead we got a 'this sat will do tons of stuff!'
L416[13:13:17] <APlayer> Time to drop the nuclear payload
L417[13:13:23] <APlayer> It's just above ve2dmn
L418[13:14:00] <ve2dmn> APlayer: can you wait 5min? I have this compile this code
L419[13:14:26] <APlayer> I can wait 5 min, but the rocket can't just freeze there
L420[13:15:32] <APlayer> That woman on the interview looks like she's been told to sit there for 2 hours and just look into the camera. Could fall asleep any second
L421[13:19:17] <ve2dmn> So this mission is run by Rockot with a British-sounding commentator, a french mission director, an italian on-site commentator launching from Russia?
L422[13:20:26] <APlayer> Welcome to ESA
L423[13:21:26] <Draconiator> https://i.gyazo.com/6e525d8df7a12d5ec7cd4abcfc2773a3.jpg - That thing was this BTW, something to make even the worst dictators completely soil themselves.
L424[13:21:32] <APlayer> They don't have maple syrup either, so I guess it's not Canada friendly :P
L425[13:22:12] <ve2dmn> APlayer: I'm sure they can find a tree-blood subtitute to eat
L426[13:22:46] <APlayer> Draconiator: Can I use it to prepare my lunch, though?
L427[13:23:09] <Draconiator> I'm pretty sure you could fry a chicken in the exhaust....
L428[13:23:22] <ve2dmn> ...or 10
L429[13:23:47] <APlayer> ve2dmn: Well, they do have something I'd most directly translate as "birch syrup" in Russia, so...
L430[13:24:23] <ve2dmn> APlayer: It's ok, I'm used to being forgotten in the big picture...
L431[13:24:37] <APlayer> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birch_sap
L432[13:24:47] <Draconiator> https://finance.yahoo.com/news/e-waste-recycler-going-jail-134200609.html - I think Microsoft is ....well being an idiot as usual.
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L442[13:39:13] <ve2dmn> APlayer: btw, the Maple season just ended. It last only for 30-45ays
L443[13:40:05] <Draconiator> I have a few friends that run a maple camp where I am. They're still going and it looks like they will until the snow's gone.
L444[13:40:25] <ve2dmn> well, the snow is gone here :/
L445[13:40:56] <ve2dmn> I went to a camp this weekend and they told me they were closing on Monday
L446[13:41:22] * snow waves
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L449[13:42:57] <ve2dmn> Draconiator: the sap start rising when the local temperature goes above freezing during the day, but below freezing at night
L450[13:43:35] <Althego> heh was there a launch?
L451[13:43:58] <ve2dmn> Althego: yes. They launched an ICBM
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L464[13:55:38] <Draconiator> ve2 - When did they launch?
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L466[13:56:05] <Draconiator> Uh oh we're in trouble now. not to worry we'll all die together.
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L469[13:59:33] <ve2dmn> Draconiator: run!
L470[14:03:49] <Althego> not me, nobody is aiming icbm here
L471[14:04:54] <ve2dmn> Althego: that's what they WANT you to think
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L473[14:06:10] <APlayer> Sentiel 3B stream live with commentary again
L474[14:06:49] <ve2dmn> upper stage burn?
L475[14:07:00] <APlayer> Yeah
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L482[14:18:49] <APlayer> French accent: "Indid"
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L484[14:20:46] <MARS18> Hello everyone
L485[14:20:48] <ve2dmn> indubitably
L486[14:21:00] <MARS18> I got a question
L487[14:21:14] <ve2dmn> I got silly answers
L488[14:21:49] <MARS18> Is it possible to control spacecrafts in ksp with a computer joystick?
L489[14:22:12] <ve2dmn> depend on the joystick
L490[14:22:35] <MARS18> So it is possible?
L491[14:23:03] <ve2dmn> should be
L492[14:23:33] <MARS18> So what's new here it been a while since a used this chat?
L493[14:24:03] <ve2dmn> you just missed a launch
L494[14:24:19] <MARS18> Which one ?
L495[14:25:23] <APlayer> Well, actually, that shouldn't be in the topic
L496[14:25:43] <ve2dmn> they launched an ICBM
L497[14:25:48] <MARS18> Is that one of those spaceX sats
L498[14:25:58] <ve2dmn> from Russia
L499[14:26:35] <MARS18> I hope russia is not declaring a war with US
L500[14:26:36] <APlayer> MARS18: ESA Earth observation sat
L501[14:27:20] <ve2dmn> It was a launch of an ESA sat, using a Russian ICBM as first stage
L502[14:27:32] <ve2dmn> http://nextrocket.space/
L503[14:27:33] <Deddly> Hi MARS18. Yes, many people have joysticks working with KSP.
L504[14:27:34] <MARS18> Ah i see
L505[14:28:53] <MARS18> Well that made me feel better that they are using the ICBM for good :)
L506[14:29:15] <ve2dmn> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurockot_Launch_Services
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L508[14:32:25] <ve2dmn> http://stuffin.space/
L509[14:32:58] <MARS18> Well i gotta get back to work fellas i'll chat later
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L523[15:20:18] <Fluburtur> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DbpfwZuW0AElJH5.jpg
L524[15:22:49] <ve2dmn> wow. had not seen CAD in a long time
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L526[15:29:58] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: well, except the fact that landing legs explode, 1.4 is pretty good
L527[15:30:30] <ve2dmn> ur legs a splode
L528[15:30:49] <Mat2ch> *for the
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L532[15:48:34] <Scolar_Visari> Sons and daughters: Thank you for using Comstar for your interstellar telecom needs! To complete your message, please deposit 10,000 C-Bills.
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L534[15:54:13] * Scolar_Visari ponders if a Comstar character background is possible for nu-Battletech.
L535[15:55:05] <Scolar_Visari> Something about verablly praising Blake after taking down each and every enemy 'Mech seems terribly amusing.
L536[16:08:54] <ve2dmn> I vaguely remember the universe from Mechwarrior and Mech Commander... Scolar_Visari is there a good map to remind me?
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L542[16:33:00] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn: http://i.imgur.com/LcvAb.jpg
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L544[16:34:13] <Scolar_Visari> Also: http://battletech.rpg.hu/images/ismaps/3025.pdf
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L548[16:56:04] <Scolar_Visari> In case you're wondering: Federated Suns = Space Britain. Lyran Commonwealth = Space Germany. Draconis Combine = Space Japan. Capellan Confederation = Space China. Free Worlds League = Meh, let's just throw everybody in there.
L549[16:56:13] <Scolar_Visari> Free Worlds League is Best Worlds League.
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L553[17:14:18] <GurrenLagannTSS> Made Hychul have Neidon's texture so that it works
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L560[18:04:13] <Scolar_Visari> This is a PSA: Scientific theories never graduate into laws. That would sort of be a massive downgrade, really.
L561[18:11:18] <ve2dmn> but... but...
L562[18:11:37] <ve2dmn> What about the law of.... ok, nevermind
L563[18:15:36] <ve2dmn> I decided to try a new game this evening
L564[18:16:00] <ve2dmn> it's called: "my cat made a mess and I have to clean it up"
L565[18:16:05] <ve2dmn> 0/10 would not recommend
L566[18:16:29] <Fluburtur> I bet your cat has a name for that too
L567[18:16:53] <ve2dmn> yes. It's called 'hidding'
L568[18:16:55] <Fluburtur> "I organized the house and my owner disorganized everything"
L569[18:17:10] <ve2dmn> She know because she avoided me
L570[18:18:14] <ve2dmn> It's also a clear sign that hairball are gonna be an issue for the next few weeks... so I better be prepared mentally
L571[18:18:27] <eriophora> Oh hey, I play that game with our puppy. It's super (not) fun!
L572[18:19:54] <ve2dmn> eriophora: depend on the puppy, but yes :D
L573[18:19:56] <Scolar_Visari> That's why you should get a robot.
L574[18:20:17] <ve2dmn> Scolar_Visari: a cleaning robot? Brilliant!
L575[18:20:20] <Scolar_Visari> They can be reasoned with. They can be bargained with. They also feel pity and remorse. You know, unlike actual cats.
L576[18:20:51] <eriophora> Usually he's pretty good, but every now and then a throw pillow becomes a plush dog toy or the paper towels are just *too* tempting.
L577[18:21:23] <ve2dmn> eriophora: yeah... that was an issue with my old cat. The toilet paper
L578[18:21:31] <eriophora> I just consider myself fortunate he doesn't chew on large things or the furniture.
L579[18:21:44] <eriophora> Our cat earns her keep by hunting down any bugs that get into the house.
L580[18:22:21] <ve2dmn> when I was younger, the house cat's job was mice-and-rat hunting
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L582[18:23:10] <ve2dmn> I live close to the river, so they would nest close by and attempt to come close to the house
L583[18:23:19] <ve2dmn> lived*
L584[18:23:29] <GurrenLagannTSS> Anyone got cool .dds gas giant textures? please, 4k or less
L585[18:24:13] <ve2dmn> GurrenLagannTSS: why not try going at it with random textures? you could get wacky results!
L586[18:24:15] <Fluburtur> just watched gran torino
L587[18:24:27] <Fluburtur> that movie is very good
L588[18:24:45] <GurrenLagannTSS> Ehh... then now i need a program that generates .dds textures
L589[18:24:49] <Scolar_Visari> 10/10 would have Clint Eastwood pull gun on me again.
L590[18:25:05] <ve2dmn> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DirectDraw_Surface
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L592[18:25:46] <GurrenLagannTSS> I also got a entire folder of .pńg textures i generated
L593[18:28:58] <ve2dmn> I'm sure Skyrim or Fallout ground textures would make interesting results
L594[18:29:37] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn: Lots of browns and rust?
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L597[18:30:30] <ve2dmn> either that, or the face texture mapped on a gas giant for true nightmares
L598[18:33:29] <Scolar_Visari> Jool: The Gas Mask planet.
L599[18:34:18] <Scolar_Visari> At any length, that's already been done: https://i.imgflip.com/hbp5r.jpg
L600[18:34:29] <Scolar_Visari> HUR HUR HUR IMMA WRECK YOUR PLANET!
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L603[18:39:53] <GurrenLagannTSS> I have "Textures for Planets" as my gas giant generator
L604[18:41:03] <Scolar_Visari> Hrm . . . Wait for Battletech hot-fix patch or Giant Robots Now?
L605[18:42:20] <GurrenLagannTSS> I really want gas giant textures for KSP
L606[18:42:34] <GurrenLagannTSS> But i have little time
L607[18:43:28] <Scolar_Visari> I think convincing gas giants are a hard thing to pull off. Even Elite and Space Engine seem to do just an okay jobs.
L608[18:43:43] <Scolar_Visari> Though I suppose you could use third party high res textures for Space Engine?
L609[18:44:07] <Scolar_Visari> Ala http://forum.spaceengine.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=320
L610[18:44:50] <Scolar_Visari> Though half of our star system's gas g-er, ice giants have pretty visually uninteresting not-surfaces.
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L612[18:51:29] <Fluburtur> lmao that number of victories https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/236560222133551104/438849234435964931/Capture.PNG
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L614[18:56:10] <Fluburtur> Rokker what the hell is that https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/236560222133551104/438850579733676044/Capture.PNG
L615[18:56:33] <GurrenLagannTSS> I cant run SE because my pc is old
L616[18:57:34] <Rokker> Fluburtur: looks like air kill numbers
L617[18:57:47] <Fluburtur> yeah but why is it like that
L618[18:57:55] <Fluburtur> could the guys not decide who killed who?
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L621[19:02:47] <Rokker> Fluburtur: probably, yeah
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L623[19:05:45] <Rokker> Fluburtur: yeah, shared victory
L624[19:08:59] <Scolar_Visari> Fluburtur: Lots of American pilots were also withdrawn from combat duties after achieving a certain amount of combat kills so as to impart their knowledge to rookies.
L625[19:09:43] <Scolar_Visari> Germany and Japan were infamous for keeping pilots in combat till they died, thus producing a great number of aces with fantastic kill records and ending up late in the war with too few pilots!
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L627[19:10:08] <Rokker> Scolar_Visari: and then came the ramming
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L629[19:11:54] <Rokker> Scolar_Visari: which I guess to be fair the Germans didn't do much of vs the japanese
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L632[19:13:38] <Rokker> Scolar_Visari: you know what I'll never understand
L633[19:15:28] <Rokker> why the resource starved axis tried focusing on resource intensive super weapons and absurd ideas like teaching pilots to just fly into stuff
L634[19:15:32] <Rokker> scrapping the plane
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L636[19:16:11] <Scolar_Visari> There was likely hardly enough aviation grade fuel to keep the planes up for combat and patrol sorties in the case of the Japanese army and naval air arms.
L637[19:17:13] <Scolar_Visari> In the case of the Wehrmacht, because of systemic imbecility. Hitler encouraged infighting among his subordinates, and pseudoscience was rife among the ranks.
L638[19:17:40] * Scolar_Visari glares at Deutschephysik and its obvious issues with the science that made the atomic bomb possible.
L639[19:18:10] <Rokker> I don't get what the japanese thought they would do with the KX-03
L640[19:18:35] <Rokker> that's a lotta fuel and metal poured into one transport plane
L641[19:22:24] <Rokker> Scolar_Visari: I still find it hilarious that testing on their next level jet and rocket aircraft started like the week before and during the nuclear bombings
L642[19:22:26] <Scolar_Visari> Probably the same thing the U.S. thought they'd do with the Spruce Goose.
L643[19:22:33] <Rokker> like, a bit too late for that
L644[19:22:59] <Scolar_Visari> A large floating boat, at the time, seemed ideal for quickly reinforcing maritime positions.
L645[19:23:02] <Rokker> Scolar_Visari: the Spruce Goose was far less idiotic
L646[19:23:28] <Fluburtur> what about the flying flapjack
L647[19:23:33] <Fluburtur> at least that was fun
L648[19:24:03] <Scolar_Visari> Fluburtur: Flapjacks are delicious.
L649[19:25:01] <Rokker> Fluburtur: that was a fairly reasonable design tho, not too resource heavy either
L650[19:25:22] <Fluburtur> yeah
L651[19:25:28] <Fluburtur> the mixed power planes were fun too
L652[19:25:31] <Fluburtur> jet and propelelr
L653[19:25:33] <Rokker> the KX-03 was just "let's build a cruise ship with wings"
L654[19:33:07] <Scolar_Visari> That would describe a lot of pre-modern flying boats.
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L656[19:37:16] <Scolar_Visari> Heck, the Princess even *looked* like an ocean liner with added wings http://fly.historicwings.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/HighFlight-Princess1.jpg
L657[19:43:11] * Scolar_Visari opines that the best thing about the new Battletech title is the complete like of Clanners.
L658[19:43:44] <UmbralRaptor> Freudian slip?
L659[19:45:54] <Scolar_Visari> Absolutely not. Just a typo. Clanners stronk.
L660[19:46:28] <Scolar_Visari> IS forever! What good's ER Clan-tech if you overheat and shutdown!?
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L663[19:53:22] <Scolar_Visari> Hrm . . . So there's a construction ship in Star Citizen now? Can I unpack that and use it to build a landing strip and bring in Nod reinforcements?
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L665[19:56:13] <Supernovy> Evening, Gentlemen.
L666[19:56:24] <Scolar_Visari> Supernovy: You missed it. There were Battlemechs and, by Blake, none of them were Clan Tech!
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L668[20:04:06] <Scolar_Visari> Hrm, Agents of SHIELD maybe six season?
L669[20:04:36] <Scolar_Visari> This is good news. My positive vibrations assuredly influenced the decision. Now I need only wriggle my tentacles the right way to get The Expanse renewed.
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L672[20:20:03] * Scolar_Visari goes off to think positively enough to get Firefly renewed.
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L681[21:02:04] <Glass|phone> note to self: don't bring an unfinished simulation game to a portfolio exhibition
L682[21:03:33] <Glass|phone> I bet if one user actually tries out all features they will accidentally set the language to chinese or so
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L689[21:23:36] <Arcan> rawr
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L693[21:45:26] <GlsFrg|phone> a classmate approached me about the chinese translation and admired me for my fake language skills
L694[21:46:48] <UmbralRaptop> o_O
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L697[22:03:33] <Scolar_Visari> Sons and daughters of Kerbin: Bad news, Firefly was canceled!
L698[22:07:21] <Scolar_Visari> Disinterested-Rex http://listverse.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/iStock-178620039.jpg
L699[22:07:43] <UmbralRaptop> Being sufficiently positive would likely cause an imbalance on the scale of the matter-antimatter mismatch.
L700[22:08:28] <UmbralRaptop> … that image feels very 2000s.
L701[22:09:50] <Scolar_Visari> UmbralRaptop: There's something wrong with that dinosaur's head. Could it be dinocancer?
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L703[22:10:41] <Scolar_Visari> This one looks like it's hopping http://listverse.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/iStock-182491515.jpg
L704[22:11:40] <Scolar_Visari> Mind you, Charles Knight depicted leaping tyrannosauroids more than a century before that cheesy CGI illustration https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8f/Laelaps-Charles_Knight-1897.jpg
L705[22:15:42] <Scolar_Visari> Moorkus Rex is bestus rex http://www.mobygames.com/images/covers/l/51815-lost-eden-dos-other.jpg
L706[22:20:28] <GlsFrg|phone> I taped a note about how to rotate the camera to the pc and people still don't get it
L707[22:20:59] <Scolar_Visari> Was it in all capital letters?
L708[22:22:30] <GlsFrg|phone> capital katakana
L709[22:23:12] <GlsFrg|phone> tomorrow I'll integrate it into the game itself
L710[22:26:57] <Scolar_Visari> Those who fail to heed your warnings should have their lunches poisoned in the Centuari tradition. A second failure provoking the second dose.
L711[22:27:23] <GlsFrg|phone> I accidentally left a data file open while explaining it to someone and now someone else is reading it
L712[22:27:54] <GlsFrg|phone> at least he also appears to read the readme
L713[22:28:34] <Scolar_Visari> Shamefully few people do.
L714[22:29:16] <GlsFrg|phone> now the readme doesn't seem to provide much understanding of the game, which is another issue
L715[22:30:23] <Scolar_Visari> That would take more than a .txt document, I'd hope.
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L719[22:40:07] <GlsFrg|phone> I always set the game up with a moving steam locomotive to catch eyes, then people try to move the camera, don't read the taped note about how to, select a less interesting model, and ignore some key UI elements
L720[22:40:58] <Scolar_Visari> Perhaps you need an ultra obtrusive UI ala 90s RTSes?
L721[22:41:12] <Scolar_Visari> That way they can't help but notice because it's covering most of the screen.
L722[22:44:50] <Scolar_Visari> Hey! https://gamedevelopment.tutsplus.com/tutorials/game-ui-by-example-a-crash-course-in-the-good-and-the-bad--gamedev-3943
L723[22:48:39] * Scolar_Visari notes the article could've gone more in depth in regards to Homeworld, which also had a minimal UI for combat viewing pleasure with an optional tactical overlay and full sized menus for construction and research.
L724[22:50:37] <GlsFrg|phone> one thing I noticed is that when employers look at it they don't ask any technical questions
L725[22:51:20] <GlsFrg|phone> now I get that most japanese companies who are looking for unity programmers don't make pc sims but
L726[22:54:25] <Scolar_Visari> By Grapthar's Hammer, what an awful GUI!!! http://cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/329950/ss_b3885e9f3074bb6a010bff2bbd6d231f9a8d3dee.1920x1080.jpg
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L733[23:44:15] <Bllaank> https://www.spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/station/crew-27/hires/iss027e036656.jpg
L734[23:45:00] <Bllaank> I just realized with the shuttle they could maybe undock one of the soyuz and shove it in the shuttle bay and bring it back as a prank.
L735[23:46:23] <Bllaank> Any idea what mission that was? It looks like the shuttle has the underbody inspection arm so that would make it after the Columbia disaster.
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