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L4[00:57:15] <transitbiker> bwoop
L5[00:57:28] <Althego> mmmbop
L6[00:58:15] <TheKosmonaut> transitbiker: beep
L7[00:58:22] <transitbiker> hello
L8[00:58:23] <Mod9000> Hello, transitbiker
L9[00:58:28] <transitbiker> :D
L10[00:58:33] <transitbiker> how is everyone?
L11[00:58:41] <TheKosmonaut> I watched In The Pale Moonlight last night.
L12[00:58:44] <Althego> in the office
L13[00:58:47] <TheKosmonaut> Top five star trek episodes
L14[00:58:55] <Althego> the early people are not yet here, so i am alone
L15[00:59:22] <transitbiker> joker batman
L16[00:59:36] <TheKosmonaut> Inner Light, Darmok, City on the edge of tomorrow, pale Moonlight, in a mirror darkly
L17[00:59:42] <TheKosmonaut> I guess are my top five
L18[00:59:44] <transitbiker> have you ever seen the devil dance in the pale moon light
L19[00:59:47] <Althego> ah inner light and darmok are among my favorites
L20[00:59:59] <TheKosmonaut> Althego: jalad, arms open
L21[01:00:04] <transitbiker> original series?
L22[01:00:14] <TheKosmonaut> Sometimes my dad and I will communicate in that style
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L24[01:00:43] <TheKosmonaut> David, on the terrace, bathsheba is seen. < You can break it down multiple ways
L25[01:00:44] <Althego> once i saw people talk like that with memes here
L26[01:00:50] <TheKosmonaut> King David at rest
L27[01:01:00] <TheKosmonaut> Or with the second half, it's about temptation
L28[01:01:31] <TheKosmonaut> Leonidas, at the pass.
L29[01:01:39] <Althego> wait, is it even a workday
L30[01:01:52] <transitbiker> monday
L31[01:01:54] <TheKosmonaut> Ramsay, the lamb is raw.
L32[01:01:58] <Althego> that doesnt say
L33[01:02:00] <Althego> anything
L34[01:02:03] <TheKosmonaut> This is to denote rage
L35[01:02:10] <Althego> because of the stupid workday shifting
L36[01:02:15] <TheKosmonaut> transitbiker: city on the edge of tomorrow is TOS
L37[01:02:24] <Althego> no, saturday was workday, but next monday is not
L38[01:02:25] <transitbiker> -elaborate shrug emoticon-
L39[01:02:35] <TheKosmonaut> The other episodes are DS9, TNG, and Enterprise
L40[01:02:51] <transitbiker> cool :D
L41[01:02:54] <TheKosmonaut> People like to Poo on enterprise but there are a few fantastic gems in there
L42[01:03:07] <TheKosmonaut> Oh. I forgot the Year of Hell
L43[01:03:13] <TheKosmonaut> Best voyager episodes
L44[01:04:43] <transitbiker> ooooo no way he does a cover?!
L45[01:05:02] <transitbiker> o hard times again no more
L46[01:05:02] <TheKosmonaut> Other than that, my workday starts soon, my washing machine broke, a close friend of mine passed away, I have my coffee
L47[01:05:19] <TheKosmonaut> Coffee is good.
L48[01:05:37] <TheKosmonaut> Washing machine is repairable, just needs a new seal around the hatch
L49[01:05:39] <transitbiker> well, keep your fire stoked and a full head of steam for the grades of life to come yet
L50[01:06:00] <TheKosmonaut> I can't fix my friend though. Though I wish I could have.
L51[01:07:03] <transitbiker> people are complicated, not only in their acting nature, but also i their physical function, many parts that can break
L52[01:08:31] <transitbiker> in this anime style movie called "steamboy" they find water in a cave with properties that allow water to be stored as steam at otherwise impossibly high pressures and densities
L53[01:08:56] <transitbiker> kind of like a high energy battery
L54[01:09:03] <Althego> in a small black ball
L55[01:09:23] <Althego> it was good, but i didnt like steampunk darth vader :)
L56[01:09:34] <transitbiker> i'm guessing it's some kind of iron alloy
L57[01:09:45] <transitbiker> maybe even titanium
L58[01:10:05] <transitbiker> how's moving castle was good, all the steam powered vehicles
L59[01:10:12] <transitbiker> howl's*
L60[01:12:13] <transitbiker> what to build
L61[01:12:30] <transitbiker> manned orbital tugs
L62[01:13:10] <Althego> but in nausicaa there is no vehicle that is not a plane, so it is bettre. ok, there is a tank, or more likely an assault gun, but that is not primarily a vehicle
L63[01:13:35] <transitbiker> everything is flight based, yeah
L64[01:14:03] <transitbiker> some seem steam powered, others internal combustion or electric
L65[01:18:09] <TheKosmonaut> transitbiker: it's part of why I like doing mechanic work. The problem can be fixed, parts replaced. People aren't nearly as simple. Though in my friend's case, she didn't have any problems. Just a tragic accident.
L66[01:18:41] <Althego> the importance of backups cant be stressed enough. we cant make backups of people (yet)
L67[01:18:54] <TheKosmonaut> Can't even go to the funeral on time
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L69[01:19:16] <TheKosmonaut> Worst yet, she was engaged to my best friend. So it's this weird double edged sword
L70[01:19:18] <transitbiker> too complicated to repair from accident
L71[01:20:13] <transitbiker> hold fast lest the tempest of life toss you on the rocks
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L73[01:29:20] <transitbiker> well, that worked
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L75[01:37:22] <transitbiker> though i will likely use the smaller lander can in future designs
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L82[02:12:15] <Gasher_> Rokker, heavenly handgun lol http://cdn.trinixy.ru/pics5/20160531/weapon_meteorite_08.jpg
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L102[04:01:43] <Althego> http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Eye_in_the_Sky_Bill_Gates_Backs_Real_Time_Global_Satellite_Surveillance_Network_999.html
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L121[06:02:37] <Fluburtur> https://78.media.tumblr.com/4c89f3de431f273385dfad7f9b001ff7/tumblr_oost80K2bD1vtxgwao1_540.jpg
L122[06:13:33] <APlayer> Took me some time to figure out what's wrong with that picture, hehe
L123[06:19:14] <Fluburtur> im not exactly sure but I think 30g of rocket fuel fill 4cm of rocket tube
L124[06:23:48] <Althego> hehe, cat medicine
L125[06:24:32] <APlayer> Fluburtur: What's the density of the fuel, and what's the diameter of the rocket tube?
L126[06:24:46] <Fluburtur> diameter is 23mm, density idk
L127[06:24:51] <Fluburtur> I need to calculate it
L128[06:25:08] <APlayer> Because I am pretty sure 30 kg of solid fuel are not enough for 4 cm of SLS rocket tube
L129[06:25:17] <Fluburtur> btw entropy 8 test fire tonight
L130[06:25:25] * APlayer is watching
L131[06:25:36] <Fluburtur> mostly because I need to get rid of the mk3 nozzle I have
L132[06:25:52] <Fluburtur> will use a fully cored one in an attempt to generate a lot of presure
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L135[06:32:29] <Fluburtur> time to go cook
L136[06:33:03] <Rokker> Althego: that's a rather paranoid take on bill gates and that company
L137[06:46:41] <Deddly> Uh... I had no idea that struts were so buggy
L138[06:46:54] <Deddly> I'm using them decoratively as railings and they keep disappearing
L139[06:48:08] <Althego> hehe
L140[06:48:16] <Althego> sometimes if they dont find the other side
L141[06:48:54] <Deddly> These were already placed though
L142[06:49:17] <Deddly> I go and edit something else on the craft and some of the struts disconnect on one side
L143[06:55:51] <Rokker> Althego: I mean real time picture from space has some pretty important uses
L144[06:56:07] <Rokker> like discovering wormholes
L145[06:56:13] * Rokker stares at MH17
L146[06:56:35] <Rokker> wait... wrong mh
L147[06:56:46] <Rokker> MH370
L148[06:57:49] <Gasher_> lol
L149[07:01:54] <Fluburtur> k loaded a new tube with 28g of fuel
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L156[07:34:28] <sandbox> lol https://twitter.com/AFP/status/988388803864915968
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L158[07:35:35] <Rokker> sandbox: Palace is an awful name
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L162[07:57:12] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/405528003997859842/437960102482542595/DSC_8811.JPG
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L165[08:04:21] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: Next test subject?
L166[08:04:27] <Fluburtur> yes
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L168[08:17:21] <Fluburtur> test fire in a few minutes
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L170[08:22:08] <Mat2ch> stream it!
L171[08:22:10] <Mat2ch> :D
L172[08:30:48] <Fluburtur> too late
L173[08:30:55] <Fluburtur> will do that when I get to more powerful stuff
L174[08:31:02] <Fluburtur> on a side note, this one was a success
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L176[08:32:36] <Mat2ch> Nice!
L177[08:32:40] <Mat2ch> Looking forward to the video
L178[08:33:03] <Fluburtur> I think I need to make my fuel mix mor oxydizer rich however
L179[08:33:10] <Fluburtur> lots of weird deposits on the nozzle
L180[08:34:22] <Fluburtur> I guess more powerful fuel can only be good
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L182[08:37:36] <Fluburtur> looks like I got a peak of 110g of thrust
L183[08:39:26] <Fluburtur> I got a very clean ignition at least
L184[08:39:37] <Fluburtur> holding the ignition charge down with some cotton fluff
L185[08:40:58] <Fluburtur> anyways that was the last mk3 nozzle test, the mk4 should provide more thrust and with the revised fuel mix it should burn cleaner
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L187[08:44:14] <Fluburtur> Mat2ch https://youtu.be/LZyetSBzSrI
L188[08:45:01] <Arcan> Fluburtur: making rockets?
L189[08:45:06] <Fluburtur> yes
L190[08:45:40] <Fluburtur> https://youtu.be/H7yYmxzZOoc
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L192[08:49:15] <Fluburtur> https://youtu.be/tmJSL4__8tk
L193[08:52:48] <Fluburtur> nozzle held up very well
L194[08:52:54] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/405528003997859842/437974086237290497/DSC_8818.JPG
L195[08:52:57] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/405528003997859842/437974101328658434/DSC_8819.JPG
L196[08:53:05] <Fluburtur> but im not sure what the weird matter is
L197[08:53:18] <Fluburtur> it doesn't burn or melt and glow red when heated
L198[08:53:21] <Fluburtur> and smells bad
L199[08:53:41] <Truga> your rocket has been abducted by aliens
L200[08:53:42] <Fluburtur> im not sure it is sugar, maybe molten epoxy glue?
L201[08:53:43] <Truga> obviously
L202[08:54:21] <Mat2ch> what's that white stuff flying out of it?
L203[08:54:31] <Fluburtur> that's what im asking
L204[08:54:47] <Fluburtur> probably sugar actually, it is rather brittle
L205[08:54:59] <Fluburtur> yeah next one will be oxydizer rich
L206[08:55:14] <Mat2ch> but if it's sugar it should burn and turn black
L207[08:55:53] <Fluburtur> idk what is it then
L208[08:56:24] <Mat2ch> could be some reaction with the glue
L209[08:56:42] <Fluburtur> im not sure epoxy reacts like that
L210[08:58:20] <Fluburtur> the burn actually started fairly clean
L211[08:59:56] <Mat2ch> I love that you can see the spark of the lighter at the beginning :D
L212[09:00:07] <Mat2ch> And you need one of those lighters with a long neck
L213[09:00:24] <Fluburtur> I have one but it is crap
L214[09:01:04] <Mat2ch> what do you mix in with the sugar?
L215[09:01:21] <Fluburtur> potassium nitrate
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L217[09:02:47] <Mat2ch> what happens if you put the white stuff in water?
L218[09:03:02] <Fluburtur> the combustion started at the bottom of the rocket so it's possible it made mix more at the top melt
L219[09:03:07] <Fluburtur> idk lemme see
L220[09:04:00] <Fluburtur> breaks more easily
L221[09:04:06] <Fluburtur> I will let is soak for a while
L222[09:04:37] <Mat2ch> the it could be just potassium nitrate
L223[09:04:56] <Fluburtur> but how
L224[09:05:05] <Fluburtur> it was perfectly mixed with the sugar
L225[09:05:31] <Fluburtur> and it was fuel rich so it should have used more nitrate than sugar anyways
L226[09:05:35] <Mat2ch> Maybe the sugar got burned away and it stayed?
L227[09:05:43] <Fluburtur> would be weird
L228[09:05:46] <Mat2ch> *stayed behind
L229[09:06:02] <Mat2ch> Try a more oxidizer rich run
L230[09:06:05] <Fluburtur> yeah
L231[09:06:13] <Mat2ch> and see what happens :)
L232[09:06:19] <Fluburtur> I have some of my current mix left, will make a smoke with it then
L233[09:06:28] <Fluburtur> and mix more fuel with the new ratio
L234[09:06:39] <Mat2ch> What ration are you mixing anyway?
L235[09:06:44] <Mat2ch> And what kind of sugar are you using?
L236[09:07:13] <Fluburtur> powdered white sugar, 60% potassium nitrate and 40% sugar
L237[09:07:28] <Fluburtur> not sur eit is the right kind of sugar but I don't have any better
L238[09:09:20] <Mat2ch> oh, in powdered sugar often has corn starch inside
L239[09:10:58] <Fluburtur> apparently this can be used as fuel too
L240[09:11:14] <Fluburtur> anyways, im set on oxydizer rich mix for the next one
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L243[09:27:16] <Fluburtur> Althego you missed the test
L244[09:27:31] <Althego> did it blow up?
L245[09:27:34] <Fluburtur> no
L246[09:27:44] <Fluburtur> https://youtu.be/LZyetSBzSrI
L247[09:27:53] <Althego> then it is of little consequence :)
L248[09:28:40] <Althego> seems to be working
L249[09:28:44] <Althego> but too little flame
L250[09:29:26] <Fluburtur> https://youtu.be/H7yYmxzZOoc
L251[09:29:30] <Fluburtur> https://youtu.be/tmJSL4__8tk
L252[09:29:41] <Fluburtur> well I do want the fire to be inside
L253[09:29:45] <Fluburtur> to generate presure
L254[09:30:10] <Althego> it would have increased more if there had been more fuel
L255[09:34:16] <Deddly> 150 m/s in a boat is scary
L256[09:35:34] <Althego> hehe
L257[09:35:40] <Althego> that is almsot the speed of sound
L258[09:35:46] <Althego> er half of the
L259[09:35:51] <Deddly> Yeah :)
L260[09:36:19] <Truga> seaplanes are technically boats :p
L261[09:36:23] <Deddly> Was accelerating steadily up to this speed but now it's bobbing up and down
L262[09:36:40] <Althego> seems like in reality they made that record too lol
L263[09:36:42] <Deddly> ...which is even more terrifying
L264[09:36:47] <Althego> 511 km/h
L265[09:36:56] <Deddly> 160 m/s now
L266[09:36:59] <Truga> is that hydrofoils?
L267[09:37:03] <Deddly> Truga, yeah
L268[09:37:07] <Althego> at that point my boat always takes off
L269[09:37:09] <Truga> yeah that makes sense
L270[09:37:24] <Althego> because only the tips are in the water
L271[09:37:30] <Deddly> Ouch, now it cartwheeled
L272[09:37:34] <Truga> hehe
L273[09:37:36] <Althego> hehe
L274[09:37:41] <Althego> expected as much
L275[09:37:44] <Deddly> Pilot survived :)
L276[09:37:50] <Althego> the reason why people dont survive water landings
L277[09:37:51] <Truga> well on the other hand
L278[09:38:12] <Truga> there's ~400km/h torpedoes :v
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L281[09:39:31] <Althego> https://youtu.be/6mg0UsFRfig
L282[09:39:36] <Althego> this was some time ago
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L286[09:42:38] <Althego> typical, as soon as i link one of my related videos, conversaion dies out. they cant be that horrible
L287[09:42:55] <Deddly> Sorry I can't watch videos right now
L288[09:42:55] <Truga> hehe
L289[09:43:20] <Truga> i'm technically at work so I lose focus :v
L290[09:43:29] <Truga> video is fine tho
L291[09:43:44] <Althego> anyway i crashed this ship too
L292[09:43:47] <Truga> hehe
L293[09:43:52] <Althego> fall into tiny pieces
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L295[09:47:44] <Fluburtur> mhhhh https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/236560222133551104/437987827846742029/20180423164627_1.jpg
L296[09:47:47] <APlayer> Flight 370 was operated with a Boeing 777 [...]. It was the 404th Boeing 777 produced, [...]
L297[09:47:54] <APlayer> Does that explain things?
L298[09:47:55] <Fluburtur> oh no
L299[09:47:56] <Althego> still flying
L300[09:48:09] <Althego> error 404 :)
L301[09:48:19] <Fluburtur> zero shot my wing off
L302[09:48:24] <APlayer> "Aircraft not found"
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L304[09:49:48] <Truga> haha
L305[09:50:04] <Althego> what about 403?
L306[09:50:05] <Truga> have they found anything at all from mh370?
L307[09:50:18] <Althego> nobody can board it or what
L308[09:52:57] <VanDisaster> they found a few panels washed up in madagascar or somewhere
L309[09:53:12] <VanDisaster> that side of the ocean anyway
L310[09:55:07] <Truga> yeah that makes sense
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L312[09:58:47] <APlayer> Fluburtur: Do you have a stock of chemicals?
L313[09:58:56] <Fluburtur> yeah
L314[10:00:04] <APlayer> You could test the grey deposits, then
L315[10:00:14] <APlayer> What was your fuel made of?
L316[10:00:25] <Althego> grey alien deposit :)
L317[10:00:26] <Fluburtur> sugar and potassium nitrarte
L318[10:00:33] <Fluburtur> it is the first one that does that
L319[10:01:08] <APlayer> If it was sugar, it should caramelise when heated
L320[10:01:25] <APlayer> With sulfuric acid, it should turn black
L321[10:01:41] <Fluburtur> I don't think I have that
L322[10:02:04] <APlayer> Well, it should get brown if you heat it, anyway
L323[10:02:13] <Fluburtur> stays white
L324[10:02:21] <APlayer> Then it's not sugar
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L326[10:03:26] <Althego> or sugar just didnt burn :)
L327[10:03:50] <APlayer> Fluburtur: Do you have steel rods?
L328[10:04:05] <Fluburtur> probably
L329[10:04:19] <Althego> this would lend itself to a silly joke easily
L330[10:05:01] <Fluburtur> the deposits completely dissolved in water
L331[10:05:05] <Fluburtur> probably nitrate then
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L333[10:06:10] <APlayer> Probably it is
L334[10:06:20] <Fluburtur> but that's weird
L335[10:06:40] <Fluburtur> that means if I mix my fuel with more nitrate it won't work better
L336[10:08:41] <Althego> i guess it is hard to hit completely stoichiometric ratios
L337[10:09:11] <Fluburtur> 60/40 to 65/35 seems to be the sweet spot for rocket candy
L338[10:12:42] <APlayer> How much did you use in this test?
L339[10:12:52] <Fluburtur> 28 grams
L340[10:12:56] <Fluburtur> my usual load
L341[10:13:05] <Fluburtur> I always do around 30
L342[10:15:02] <APlayer> No, I mean the ratio, heh
L343[10:15:14] <Fluburtur> 60/40
L344[10:15:30] <Althego> 22 grams, the mass of the soul :)
L345[10:15:43] <APlayer> The soul of the rocket
L346[10:18:13] <Althego> i need to read this some time https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Soul_of_a_New_Machine
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L360[11:55:40] <ve2dmn> TIL Guns, Germs, and Steel was a Pulitzer Prize
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L363[11:59:46] <Fluburtur> question
L364[11:59:55] <Fluburtur> can you use vacuum tubes in space but without the tubes
L365[12:00:06] <Althego> of course
L366[12:00:18] <ve2dmn> why not?
L367[12:00:40] <Fluburtur> tubes might interfere with each other
L368[12:00:45] <Fluburtur> but would be fun to try
L369[12:01:05] <Althego> you can put up walls between them
L370[12:01:17] <Althego> still les than the whole closed glass
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L372[12:02:11] <Fluburtur> no
L373[12:02:13] <Fluburtur> nothing
L374[12:02:22] <Fluburtur> only the metal parts
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L379[12:09:30] <APlayer> TIL there was a hijacked flight where a co-pilot locked out the pilot and diverted the plane to a different country to request asylum
L380[12:09:46] <APlayer> "Request asylum in style"
L381[12:11:28] <oren> Fluburtur: but vacuum tubes have a thin gas in them right?
L382[12:11:42] <Fluburtur> well you want to have the least possible
L383[12:11:50] <Fluburtur> but some of them have some to make them glow colors
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L385[12:12:04] <Fluburtur> mostly in guitar amps to look cool
L386[12:12:26] <Fluburtur> the dudes that make tubes degas them before sealing the tube
L387[12:12:42] <Fluburtur> heat up the metal parts with an induction heater to remove all the gas
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L396[12:39:41] <ve2dmn> so... The guitar amp vaccum tubes may well be just crappy neon lights with cheap transitors hidden in them and most people would not notice the difference?
L397[12:44:53] <Althego> i think there are headphone amps like that
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L399[12:48:11] <ve2dmn> ... I should try looking up on Aliexpress if there is that sort of stuff
L400[12:48:47] <ve2dmn> Althego: for a second there, I had the vision of a pair of beat headphones with giant lamps on each ear
L401[12:49:09] <Althego> no, it is a box with 2 tubes
L402[12:49:47] <ve2dmn> "You look like a rabbit with those stupid headphone"... "Maybe, but they sound awesome!"... "Hum... thoses lamps are fake btw"
L403[12:50:01] <APlayer> ve2dmn: That would be Edison Headphones
L404[12:50:45] <ve2dmn> So it was no my imagination?
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L406[12:52:57] <ve2dmn> Of course, thoses cat headphones also came to mind...
L407[12:53:30] <Althego> i remember the brainwave controlled cat ears
L408[12:53:40] <ve2dmn> Neko Mimi
L409[12:53:51] <Althego> supposedly react to mood
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L412[12:57:11] <ve2dmn> imagine a rocket controller with that kind of interface
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L414[12:58:02] <ve2dmn> You insult the pilot over the radio and the whole thing goes crazy
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L416[12:59:42] <Althego> lol "it's by caffeine alone i set my mind in motion" (was will alone in dune)
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L421[13:13:20] <Fluburtur> https://78.media.tumblr.com/6b5635c7490324f821553ddca0e11374/tumblr_inline_o0s2jrp9EE1qkd73z_540.jpg
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L426[13:47:58] <Draconiator> https://i.gyazo.com/2d091dddd6c52d3bbd402426dd7d3125.jpg
L427[13:48:15] <Althego> blue sun?
L428[13:52:23] <Draconiator> White dwarf through an atmosphere via Space Engine
L429[13:55:10] <Draconiator> and thios is pretty interesting, the view from Proxima would give Cassiopeia an extra line, so it looks like /\/\/ https://i.gyazo.com/9379e7be8186433068f90590cca548df.png
L430[13:55:37] <Draconiator> er Sol would give it an extra line rather
L431[13:56:24] <Draconiator> so I think if we ever go there, that would be a useful marker.
L432[13:57:28] <Deddly> Neat
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L434[14:00:43] <APlayer> That looks a bit like f(x) = x sin x
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L437[14:03:08] <APlayer> Also, /me is surprised to know that Cassiopeia still works from a neighbouring star system
L438[14:05:16] <APlayer> Is there a way to take the same picture from Sol and see the parallax effect, Draconiator?
L439[14:05:53] <APlayer> If you gave me the other picture for comparison, I'd rig up some comparison
L440[14:09:54] <Draconiator> Hmmm.
L441[14:10:06] <Draconiator> I'll see if I can do that.
L442[14:17:24] <Draconiator> https://i.gyazo.com/5850f4b24407c38510367a69fc0ebc09.png <--- The one from Proxima | The view from our own system ---> https://i.gyazo.com/e850e3127a84004e9afd8d446e7c99da.png
L443[14:19:04] <Fluburtur> I think I know why my last rocket test spit out the weird thing
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L445[14:19:26] <Fluburtur> because it didn't have enough presure stuff probably flew out that didn't in other test with higher presure
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L452[14:42:54] <Deddly> My boat is now cruising at 190 m/s
L453[14:43:03] <Fluburtur> nice
L454[14:43:19] <KrazyKrl> that's not slow, noice.
L455[14:43:31] <Deddly> Thanks guys
L456[14:43:40] <Deddly> The view from the cockpit is absolutely terrifying
L457[14:44:11] <Deddly> Interestingly, in spite of numerous spectacular crashes in testing, not one death
L458[14:44:12] <KrazyKrl> "The view from the cockpit is absolutely terrifying" is one of the best reviews for KSP i've ever heard.
L459[14:44:20] <Deddly> haha
L460[14:46:43] <Fluburtur> guess I need to make a race boat too now
L461[14:47:00] <oren> is it still possible to make hypersonic submarine?
L462[14:47:55] <oren> it used to be perfectly safe to go hypersonic as long as you didn't touch either the ground or the surface
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L465[14:48:47] <Deddly> oren, sounds like old aero, but submarines weren't really feasible back then, so I don't know what version that was
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L467[14:49:19] <oren> Deddly: IIRC it was in like 1.0.5 that I did it
L468[14:49:20] <Deddly> Highest speed 199 m/s
L469[14:49:38] <Fluburtur> I need to inspect your boat
L470[14:49:42] <Fluburtur> for safety reasons
L471[14:49:49] <Deddly> lol Fluburtur
L472[14:49:51] <Fluburtur> totally not to see how it works
L473[14:50:02] <Deddly> I'm still refining it though
L474[14:50:19] <oren> basically it was a ssto that I filled with ore and sank to the bottom of the katlantic
L475[14:51:08] <KrazyKrl> Kakifik Okean?
L476[14:51:35] <oren> I should make a map with my names for these places
L477[14:52:45] <oren> the katlantic is the sea northeast of ksc
L478[14:52:48] <Fluburtur> I found a old 1.0.4 copy of the game
L479[14:52:53] <Fluburtur> that seems to be rather modded
L480[14:53:28] <Fluburtur> I used it for DMP apparently
L481[14:54:07] <oren> KrazyKrl: the Pakific is the ocean south of KSC
L482[14:54:25] <oren> containing nikon
L483[14:58:09] <Fluburtur> and it crashed randomly while looking at planes
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L485[15:04:45] <ve2dmn> Reminds me of the 'Pack in the K' Kaspersky rap-like video
L486[15:05:33] <ve2dmn> (a few swears in that video, you have been warned)
L487[15:08:31] <APlayer> Draconiator: https://i.imgur.com/zbmNLdl.png Red is at Sol, Blue is at Proxima
L488[15:08:53] <APlayer> I guess that qualifies as stereoscopic image
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L490[15:09:25] <ve2dmn> Solar is a Red, Proxima is Blue. I can't rhyme, but maybe can you?
L491[15:09:27] <APlayer> With the separation between the two "eyes" being about one parsec
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L493[15:12:20] <Deddly> 215 m/s :)
L494[15:12:55] <Deddly> I'm getting mach effects on a boat!
L495[15:15:42] * APlayer is sincerely sorry for Deddly
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L497[15:16:08] <Deddly> This is exhilarating :)
L498[15:16:33] <Fluburtur> it will take off soon
L499[15:17:27] <Deddly> Hopefully not
L500[15:19:08] <Deddly> 230
L501[15:19:13] <APlayer> Supersonic Marine Vehicle
L502[15:19:43] <ve2dmn> There are blue stars, red stars, yellow stars.... but why no green stars?
L503[15:20:00] <Fluburtur> the sun is a green star
L504[15:20:10] <Fluburtur> green is in the middle of the spektrum so they look white
L505[15:20:19] <ve2dmn> ok, so it's a question of perception
L506[15:20:33] <Fluburtur> yeah it's in the middle of other colors
L507[15:20:50] * ve2dmn take notes
L508[15:22:10] <Deddly> Maximum water speed achieved: 237 m/s. Crashed out - crew survive again
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L519[15:40:45] <GurrenLagannTSS> Hey guys!
L520[15:41:34] <GurrenLagannTSS> I'm ready to launch the ARSS Orbiter!
L521[15:41:49] <Fluburtur> I put a firework in an empty milk bottle and ignited it
L522[15:41:53] <Fluburtur> idk what I expected
L523[15:42:01] <GurrenLagannTSS> Hey Fluburtur!
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L525[15:42:09] <Fluburtur> and now I smoked my room
L526[15:42:13] <Fluburtur> yo
L527[15:42:14] <ve2dmn> Fluburtur: congrats
L528[15:42:22] <Fluburtur> it actually made a hold in the bottle
L529[15:42:34] <Fluburtur> hole*
L530[15:42:38] <Fluburtur> well english broke today
L531[15:42:51] <ve2dmn> Fluburtur: could be worse
L532[15:43:27] <GurrenLagannTSS> Guys, i will launch my first rocket on the ARSS mod!
L533[15:45:56] <Fluburtur> I did it again
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L535[15:46:07] <Fluburtur> but with a plastic bottle
L536[15:46:11] <Fluburtur> didn't explode this time
L537[15:46:30] <Notagoodastronaut> Cheers!
L538[15:46:32] <ve2dmn> Fluburtur: maybe stop?
L539[15:46:42] <Fluburtur> why would I do such thing
L540[15:46:53] <ve2dmn> touché
L541[15:47:00] <Fluburtur> you know me
L542[15:47:30] <GurrenLagannTSS> Hey Notagoodastronaut!
L543[15:48:05] <ve2dmn> Fluburtur: I got a feeling of Déjà Vu
L544[15:48:15] <Fluburtur> heh
L545[15:48:36] <GurrenLagannTSS> Almost launching my very own rocket!
L546[15:49:57] <Notagoodastronaut> With ASSR?
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L549[15:50:15] <GurrenLagannTSS> Yes
L550[15:53:30] <Notagoodastronaut> do you use mechjeb?
L551[15:53:33] <ve2dmn> An ASMR rocket?
L552[15:53:44] <Fluburtur> it talks softly
L553[15:54:06] <GurrenLagannTSS> no
L554[15:54:07] <ve2dmn> (I have no clue waht that mod is)
L555[15:55:39] <GurrenLagannTSS> Almost Real Solar System = ARSS
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L560[15:56:34] <Notagoodastronaut> Its a kerbal version from the solar system
L561[15:57:18] <Notagoodastronaut> by the way, it even has a ceres reference
L562[15:58:57] <GurrenLagannTSS> ...
L563[15:59:08] <GurrenLagannTSS> why everything is black
L564[16:00:14] <oren> GurrenLagannTSS: textures failed to load maybe?
L565[16:00:27] <GurrenLagannTSS> Now its working
L566[16:00:43] <ve2dmn> The twist is that a youtube search for ASMR rocket return a few videos...
L567[16:00:52] <GurrenLagannTSS> Countdown
L568[16:00:57] <GurrenLagannTSS> ITS ARSS
L569[16:01:00] <GurrenLagannTSS> 10
L570[16:01:02] <GurrenLagannTSS> 9
L571[16:01:04] <GurrenLagannTSS> 8
L572[16:01:04] <GurrenLagannTSS> 7
L573[16:01:08] <GurrenLagannTSS> 6
L574[16:01:10] <GurrenLagannTSS> 5
L575[16:01:16] <GurrenLagannTSS> 4, 3, 2, 1
L576[16:01:21] <GurrenLagannTSS> LAUNCH
L577[16:01:28] <ve2dmn> (you skipped Pi)
L578[16:01:41] <GurrenLagannTSS> wait
L579[16:01:48] <GurrenLagannTSS> staging is messed up
L580[16:01:53] <GurrenLagannTSS> cancel
L581[16:04:15] <UmbralRaptor> spam much?
L582[16:04:54] <GurrenLagannTSS> its a countdownn
L583[16:04:57] <GurrenLagannTSS> relax
L584[16:05:21] <GurrenLagannTSS> True launch coming
L585[16:05:25] <Draconiator> And this is the coldest "star" I've ever found in SE. https://i.gyazo.com/b025fad17453e6f47e9c8df38032521c.png
L586[16:05:28] * UmbralRaptor drinks more coffee.
L587[16:05:52] <GurrenLagannTSS> Hey Notagoodastronaut , launch is coming
L588[16:06:16] <UmbralRaptor> Y8.3? Ꙩ_ꙩ
L589[16:06:25] <GurrenLagannTSS> Y8.3... is that impossible irl?
L590[16:06:38] <UmbralRaptor> It's ill defined.
L591[16:06:58] <GurrenLagannTSS> 5,4,pi,3,2,1
L592[16:07:02] <GurrenLagannTSS> launch
L593[16:07:22] <Notagoodastronaut> aaand?
L594[16:08:04] <GurrenLagannTSS> because my pc is terible, the launch is slower than SpaceX's progress
L595[16:09:35] <Notagoodastronaut> I remember now my R-replica, 37 engines and my PC cried of pain
L596[16:09:38] <UmbralRaptor> Yeah, Y isn't yet divided up formally. But that object seems to be about 20 M_♃, so I'll accept SE's heuristics.
L597[16:09:45] <oren> UmbralRaptor: -138.15 C
L598[16:10:19] <Notagoodastronaut> *R-7
L599[16:10:21] <oren> or 135 kelvin
L600[16:10:26] <GurrenLagannTSS> Good launch soo far
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L602[16:10:47] <GurrenLagannTSS> but boosters are werid
L603[16:10:54] <UmbralRaptor> oren: not absurd, especially for a sufficiently old brown dwarf.
L604[16:11:05] <Notagoodastronaut> Kelvin is more used in sience.
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L606[16:11:16] <Notagoodastronaut> smaller numbers
L607[16:11:17] <GurrenLagannTSS> oh wait i forgot struts- screw it, they will fall soon
L608[16:12:15] <GurrenLagannTSS> 1km finally
L609[16:12:35] <Notagoodastronaut> what kind of rockete did you build?
L610[16:14:38] <GurrenLagannTSS> Falcon Heavy i think
L611[16:15:18] <GurrenLagannTSS> oh shoot
L612[16:15:23] <GurrenLagannTSS> i lost control
L613[16:15:45] <GurrenLagannTSS> lol jeb is happy
L614[16:16:27] <GurrenLagannTSS> now everyone is happy like they dont care
L615[16:16:47] <Draconiator> I tried a Falcon 9 replica once, it has 16 Thuds.
L616[16:17:03] <GurrenLagannTSS> broke
L617[16:17:24] <GurrenLagannTSS> even the parachute flew away
L618[16:17:40] <GurrenLagannTSS> now everyone is super happy
L619[16:17:59] <GurrenLagannTSS> rip
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L621[16:18:26] <GurrenLagannTSS> do i need struts?
L622[16:20:37] <Notagoodastronaut> I never used them
L623[16:23:13] <GurrenLagannTSS> ok
L624[16:24:15] <GurrenLagannTSS> also ksp crashed
L625[16:25:13] <oren> ksp mods are way inefficent
L626[16:25:24] <Notagoodastronaut> which mods?
L627[16:25:27] <oren> well, vast a majority of them
L628[16:25:46] <Notagoodastronaut> there are some good mods.
L629[16:26:05] <Notagoodastronaut> unfortunatly RO doesn't work well with my rig
L630[16:26:28] <oren> I bought a ridiculously fast machine to play ksp on, but I'm pretty sure most of the speed is used by mods
L631[16:26:56] <oren> RO is significantly faster than my non-RO setup
L632[16:27:49] <GurrenLagannTSS> RIP non-RO setups
L633[16:28:29] <oren> because extraplanetary launchpads seems to suck a lot of juice in particular
L634[16:29:42] <KrazyKrl> Well... games like KSP that slam the garbage collector tend to have weird performance.
L635[16:31:33] <oren> KrazyKrl: well my CPU load is the main thing slowing it down
L636[16:31:46] <oren> because it doesn't use all 6 cores
L637[16:31:58] <oren> i'm pretty sure it only uses 1 in fact
L638[16:32:02] <KrazyKrl> Most of the time, programs are locked to 1 core due to cache invalidation.
L639[16:32:13] <KrazyKrl> So memory latency and throughput is the most important.
L640[16:32:24] <KrazyKrl> Especially with the new Ryzen archatecture.
L641[16:32:47] <oren> KrazyKrl: i have i7-8700K
L642[16:33:20] <Notagoodastronaut> hopefully there will a be 64bit iplmentation in the next update
L643[16:33:23] <oren> which i think is coffee lake?
L644[16:33:56] <GurrenLagannTSS> KrazyKrl: i have a AMD-Semprton
L645[16:34:04] <KrazyKrl> ouch.
L646[16:34:29] <GurrenLagannTSS> and no monies
L647[16:35:03] <GurrenLagannTSS> rip
L648[16:36:19] <Notagoodastronaut> sempron....
L649[16:36:36] <Notagoodastronaut> that was my CPU 10 years ago
L650[16:36:50] <Notagoodastronaut> 2800+
L651[16:37:01] <GurrenLagannTSS> true
L652[16:37:14] <GurrenLagannTSS> still stuck on it since 2015
L653[16:37:15] <KrazyKrl> hey, at least SOME semperons have x86_64
L654[16:37:49] <oren> ten years ago I built a desktop with a AMD phenom. did not last long before it was obsolete
L655[16:37:50] <Fluburtur> my current build is like 3 years old and it is a dinosaur already
L656[16:38:04] <GurrenLagannTSS> rip
L657[16:38:24] <KrazyKrl> My first computer was a prebuilt pentium 4 i purchased for $800... never again.
L658[16:38:25] <GurrenLagannTSS> i want a new pc as a gift
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L660[16:38:38] <Notagoodastronaut> better then mine first
L661[16:38:46] <GurrenLagannTSS> true
L662[16:38:52] <Fluburtur> once I get money I will build myself a nicer one
L663[16:38:55] <Notagoodastronaut> I had a 486
L664[16:38:58] <Notagoodastronaut> 50mhz
L665[16:39:00] <Notagoodastronaut> :D
L666[16:39:09] <Fluburtur> replace the main board and everything on it
L667[16:39:13] <KrazyKrl> well... the first computer I bought myself... not the first i've ever used.
L668[16:39:28] <oren> I think my first PC had a pentium 2?
L669[16:39:30] <KrazyKrl> I've had a ][e (of course) and an IBM XT (with a 10MB HDD)
L670[16:39:32] <oren> or something?
L671[16:39:51] <Fluburtur> my cousin had a laptop with a pentium 4 until like two years ago
L672[16:40:10] <KrazyKrl> Of course i've also used a power mac 5500, and some random athlon (iirc) computer in the late 90s.
L673[16:40:36] <Fluburtur> I think my cousin had a athlon computer like 10 years ago
L674[16:40:42] <Fluburtur> they never have good stuff
L675[16:40:46] <oren> yeah It had a pentium 2 for sure. it was new in 1998.
L676[16:40:50] <Fluburtur> always 10 years behind
L677[16:42:12] <oren> my cousin doesn't even have a computer he only plays on his samsung tablet
L678[16:42:24] <Fluburtur> ugh
L679[16:42:27] <Fluburtur> tablets
L680[16:42:34] <GurrenLagannTSS> tablets
L681[16:42:41] <GurrenLagannTSS> i broke one once
L682[16:42:51] <Fluburtur> I don't care much for phones and much less for tablets
L683[16:43:07] <Fluburtur> I only need a phone that can send text and a good computer
L684[16:43:14] <Fluburtur> and good interent on the computer
L685[16:43:34] <oren> GurrenLagannTSS: they have to put a really padded case on it, tablets aren't good when a five year old throws them around
L686[16:43:56] <GurrenLagannTSS> i didnt broke it this way
L687[16:43:59] <Fluburtur> when I was 5 I was playing with dirt
L688[16:44:10] <GurrenLagannTSS> i just downloaded a .apk file
L689[16:44:17] <Fluburtur> and untill I was like 11 or 12 I was playing with lego
L690[16:44:28] <oren> Fluburtur: well, he's playing with virtual dirt. MINECRAFT
L691[16:44:37] <Fluburtur> heh
L692[16:44:52] <Fluburtur> lego stuff is nice for playing with cubes too
L693[16:45:05] <GurrenLagannTSS> also YT ads are for 3-year olds now
L694[16:45:35] <GurrenLagannTSS> once i got a WW2 ad about Stalin on a DRAGON BALL STREAM
L695[16:46:54] <oren> youtube in general has fairly good kind friendy mode these days
L696[16:47:01] <oren> kid friendly
L697[16:47:13] <Fluburtur> can you even get ad blockers on tablets?
L698[16:47:27] <GurrenLagannTSS> i hate ads these days
L699[16:47:34] <oren> Fluburtur: you can if you use firefox
L700[16:47:38] <GurrenLagannTSS> my ads are now all hotels
L701[16:48:33] <UmbralRaptor> Fluburtur: Firefox mobile can install ublock origin. At least on Android.
L702[16:48:45] <KrazyKrl> Aww yiss... firefox with ublock origin, noscript, and privacy badger.
L703[16:49:04] <KrazyKrl> the trustworthy ads train has sailed.
L704[16:49:06] <Fluburtur> well good thing I use my computer for internet needs
L705[16:49:24] <KrazyKrl> And if a site whines at me for having an adblocker on... i didn't need to visit that site anyhow.
L706[16:49:45] <KrazyKrl> I don't feel like installing an adblock blocker blocker.
L707[16:50:06] <Notagoodastronaut> GurrenLagannTSS, could you make into an orbit?
L708[16:50:15] <oren> lol I just got an ad for tax filing software. which reminds me, I have to file by end of month
L709[16:50:20] <GurrenLagannTSS> No
L710[16:50:39] <GurrenLagannTSS> My rocket went out of control
L711[16:51:08] <KrazyKrl> too much AoA with too much throttle would do that.
L712[16:52:16] <GurrenLagannTSS> i got 4 stages on a falcon heavy-like rocket
L713[16:52:33] <GurrenLagannTSS> i can send you a file of the rocket
L714[16:53:08] <Notagoodastronaut> sure
L715[16:53:12] <KrazyKrl> Naa... i'm guessing you flip near stage burnout when your rocket has a weird CoM and accelleration profile.
L716[16:53:34] <KrazyKrl> if it looks like a rocket, it should fly just fine (unless you are being to rough)
L717[16:57:40] <GurrenLagannTSS> https://www.dropbox.com/s/fc8j8g5z0w303ln/ARSS%20Orbiter.craft?dl=0 - the craft
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L720[17:18:47] <Notagoodastronaut> finaly I made into orbit :D
L721[17:18:52] <GurrenLagannTSS> congrats
L722[17:18:54] <Notagoodastronaut> wiht an ICBM like rocket
L723[17:19:00] <Notagoodastronaut> only probe core
L724[17:19:01] <Notagoodastronaut> thanks
L725[17:19:23] <GurrenLagannTSS> i cant even get to 3000 meters without turning to death
L726[17:20:32] <GurrenLagannTSS> 2D = Easy peasy, can go to another solar system
L727[17:21:08] <GurrenLagannTSS> 3D = Turns at 3km out, kill the crew
L728[17:21:35] <Notagoodastronaut> wich parts do you use?
L729[17:21:49] <Notagoodastronaut> by the way 2D do you also play space flight simulator?
L730[17:22:50] <GurrenLagannTSS> Yes i play SpaceFlight Simulator, but by 2D i mean SimpleRockets
L731[17:23:20] <GurrenLagannTSS> BTW is Spaceflight Simulator avaiable for pc?
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L733[17:25:43] <oren> hmm I wonder if this "remotely install" thing in steam will actually work
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L735[17:28:15] <GurrenLagannTSS> also i used stock
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L737[17:31:18] <GurrenLagannTSS> Notagoodastronaut, is Spaceflight Simulator avaiable for pc? I love this game!
L738[17:42:31] <Notagoodastronaut> As I remember yes.
L739[17:44:02] <GurrenLagannTSS> PM me, i really want this game
L740[17:50:04] <ve2dmn> oren: if it's from the phone interface, it actually works on the current logged-in computer
L741[17:50:21] <Notagoodastronaut> How can I PM here?
L742[17:51:05] <GurrenLagannTSS> My messages may had arrived in your PM
L743[17:51:43] <GurrenLagannTSS> In HexChat, its called Dialouge Window or DW
L744[17:51:46] <ve2dmn> Notagoodastronaut: not 100% sure. It depends on the interface. There's the old IRC commands but they are not as UI friendly
L745[17:53:10] <Ezko> Notagoodastronaut: /msg works for all clients i thinkf
L746[17:53:30] <Ezko> so if you wanna pm me /msg ezko message
L747[17:53:44] <Ezko> usually /q is an alias
L748[17:53:49] <Ezko> as i query
L749[17:55:00] <Draconiator> I downloaded a romhack someone made mashing up Mario 64 and Ocarina of Time...pretyty amazing hack so far
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L751[17:59:19] <GurrenLagannTSS> I will create NEW PLANETS now
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L753[18:04:23] <GurrenLagannTSS> rip
L754[18:04:37] <Notagoodastronaut> for ARSS?
L755[18:04:47] <ve2dmn> anyone has ever played this? It looks... very boring: https://www.humblebundle.com/store/pc-building-simulato
L756[18:05:16] <ve2dmn> oups copy-paste error: https://www.humblebundle.com/store/pc-building-simulator
L757[18:07:14] <GurrenLagannTSS> nah it is not boring
L758[18:07:22] <GurrenLagannTSS> Yes, for ARSS
L759[18:08:23] <Notagoodastronaut> what kind of planets?
L760[18:09:18] <GurrenLagannTSS> A Tyche analouge, a Sedna analouge, a Eris analouge and replacing OPM with custom planets
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L765[18:19:37] <Fluburtur> https://youtu.be/z-zsO2yof0k
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L768[18:28:43] <Guest03214> Hey guys Steam wont prompt an update for 1.4.2, and im running 1.4.1 Any suggestions?
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L770[18:31:13] <Notagoodastronaut> did you checked your settings? @Guestß3214
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L785[19:06:33] <GurrenLagannTSS> Back
L786[19:08:31] <GurrenLagannTSS> I named my Tyche analouge Hychul
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L800[20:05:10] <Supernovy> Evening, Gentlemen.
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L805[20:30:15] <oren> https://imgur.com/a/WiRkXu7
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L807[20:32:56] <KrazyKrl> oren: I give that image 1 star.
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L816[21:24:09] <oren> Hmm, after several failed attempts, er, i mean, simulations to land on duna, it appears that additional equipment is needed
L817[21:25:46] <oren> I will need to arrange an express delivery
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