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L1[00:05:29] <Blaank> I just noticed that's the upper stage. this is the craziest thing he's done so far.
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L24[03:48:52] <Mat2ch> Blaank: why shouldn't it be not? :D
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L26[03:50:25] <Mat2ch> Blaank: a big baloon will slow down the second stage pretty fast in the upper atmosphere. If it's designed right it will also act as a (steerable) parachute. And then everything get's catched by an air filled cushion
L27[03:50:35] <Mat2ch> *caught
L28[03:50:35] <Blaank> Someone could photoshop or fake tweet stuff by him and I'd have no way of knowing but stumbling around and going through twitter's horrid website to find the actual post. Easier to ask here.
L29[03:50:56] <Mat2ch> he realy tweeted this
L30[03:51:20] <Mat2ch> https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/985654333860601856
L31[03:51:20] <kmath> <✔elonmusk> This is gonna sound crazy, but …
L32[03:53:17] <Althego> quite old
L33[04:00:22] <Mat2ch> yes, but Blaank wanted the source
L34[04:00:32] <Mat2ch> I hope this will be streamed live :)
L35[04:00:45] <Althego> probably far from happening
L36[04:01:12] <Althego> they couldnt yet catch the fairing
L37[04:01:41] <Althego> and this should be a lot harder
L38[04:02:12] <Althego> probably no prpulsion on the way down like the first stage, because of the very little fuel remaining and vacuum optimized engine
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L40[04:14:51] <Blaank> Also the whole screaming along at 7 km/s problem.
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L42[04:16:42] <Mat2ch> It'll be a very slow breaking manouver, no real reentry. They probably will fly for a long time through the upper atmosphere
L43[04:16:58] <Althego> i doubt that helps much
L44[04:17:12] <Althego> once it gets lower it starts to slow down really fast
L45[04:17:22] <Althego> so it doesnt really matter if it is 7 km/s or 6.5
L46[04:18:47] <Blaank> If KSP is anything to do with IRL then a "slow braking maenuver" quickly turns into a re-entry.
L47[04:19:04] <Althego> in real life too, see tiangong
L48[04:19:09] <Blaank> Even using lifting body you lose orbital velocity you start falling.
L49[04:19:35] <Althego> you just have to bite the bullet and survivet he heat
L50[04:19:40] <Blaank> And depending on starting altitude you could easily pick up a km/s of velocity on the way down.
L51[04:19:43] <Althego> no other way
L52[04:21:55] <Blaank> re-entry is not pretty.
L53[04:23:02] <Mat2ch> it's all a matter of lifting body size and weight
L54[04:23:13] <Mat2ch> if you're light and have a huge lifting body you will not burn
L55[04:23:27] <Mat2ch> but slow down enough
L56[04:24:43] <Blaank> Do we have anything similar as an example? Orbiter fuel tank?
L57[04:29:09] <Mat2ch> I think nobody has ever tried what they're going to try...
L58[04:29:38] <Mat2ch> I'm thinking about RSS and a huge ball of wings to try it...
L59[04:29:58] <Althego> the nasa ldsd may be something similar
L60[04:30:13] <Althego> a balloon that slows the craft down
L61[04:31:52] <Mat2ch> but that's no party balloon
L62[04:32:28] <Mat2ch> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaGyD7gKAaw that in much much bigger could work
L63[04:32:48] <Althego> heh septerra core is a slideshow on win10
L64[04:33:07] <Althego> i guess i have to break out the laptop again for it. rathr not
L65[04:33:15] <Althego> at least this keeps me from playing it again
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L68[04:42:35] <Blaank> RIP Septera Core.
L69[04:43:13] <Blaank> What's going on is it's rendering on your CPU cause it can't find a GPU. I'm pretty sure that's what's going on. Unreal Gold did that till I installed an unofficial patch.
L70[04:43:32] <Althego> ehmm, there were not really any gpus around at that time
L71[04:43:39] <Althego> it is even 2d
L72[04:43:53] <Blaank> A modern CPU should crush that render load.
L73[04:44:01] <Blaank> But they seem to really suffer from it.
L74[04:44:19] <Blaank> i7-7700k running at 5 fps.
L75[04:45:18] <Blaank> Unreal was designed for the Voodoo and "GeForce" graphics cards.
L76[04:45:35] <Blaank> GeForce and GeForce 2 were listed in the install instructions.
L77[04:47:06] <Blaank> Septerra Core probably just needs to be updated to support modern GPU interfaces.
L78[04:47:28] <Althego> worked on win7
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L81[04:56:19] <Althego> hehe they say they delete quicktime and then it works
L82[04:56:23] <Althego> but then no cutscenes
L83[04:56:31] <Althego> ok, those havent aged well
L84[05:05:19] <Blaank> They don't play worth a damn anyway.
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L88[05:17:23] <henrik> hi guys
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L91[05:17:58] <NGC3982> is there any way to put part options as a stage?
L92[05:18:25] <NGC3982> like, fold out landing struts on stage instead of using a hotkey.
L93[05:19:07] <Althego> you can put anything on stage, however that is used in a silly way, they trigger every time you press pace, which is not what anybody wants
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L95[05:21:10] <Gasher> i don't really understand such questions - it is much faster just to slap that on in VAB and hit launch to see for yourself
L96[05:21:44] <Althego> generally you cant put stuff on a specific stage, unless the part supports it
L97[05:21:45] <Gasher> also you can set them the SAS/RCS activation
L98[05:21:55] <Althego> like decouplers, heatshields, etc
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L101[05:25:50] <Althego> for example i usually want to deploy solar panels on a specific stage
L102[05:25:54] <Althego> but they dont support it
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L104[05:26:53] <Althego> as some parts do, it wouldnt be so hard to generalize this to all parts that have kind of mechanism
L105[05:31:44] <NGC3982> yes, that's what im on about
L106[05:33:31] <NGC3982> for instance, i want to limit the debris spacex-style when i launch stuff, so it would be cool to put landing strunts, fins and parachutes on boosters. on that specific stage, it would be cool to deflect them from the space craft with fins, and then land them with the parachutes
L107[05:33:36] <NGC3982> and so on
L108[05:33:37] <Althego> dgvoodoo fixes the framerate
L109[05:34:06] <Althego> supposedly they started a collaboration with gog, so maybe some later i can have an official version
L110[05:49:38] <Althego> heh it leaves a dgvoodoo watermark in the lower right corner
L111[05:50:16] <Althego> ok needs to be disabled manually
L112[05:50:32] <Althego> it is not for spoiling the fun but for indicating that it works
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L121[07:02:13] <ve2dmn> dammit my KSP install keeps crashing and I don't know why....
L122[07:03:08] <ve2dmn> The KSP.log and outpu_log.txt are mostly useless
L123[07:08:48] <ve2dmn> KSP_x64.exe caused an Access Violation (0xc0000005)
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L125[07:27:48] <Fluburtur> I kinda want to get this and make it rc https://www.ebay.fr/itm/Air-Hogs-Titan/282915056936?hash=item41df0d2d28:g:z1YAAOSwFHNayFJv
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L128[07:53:36] <Fluburtur> uh why don't I have some nice rapid plaster
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L132[09:09:12] <Fluburtur> I cooked a new rocket but i really need to get decent plaster for the nozzles
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L134[09:10:37] <sandbox> Dessert Airfield
L135[09:12:41] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: that's just a glider?
L136[09:12:52] <Fluburtur> yes but it's big and cheap
L137[09:13:07] <Fluburtur> and I wanted to turn a toy glider into a proper rc plane for a while
L138[09:13:12] <Mat2ch> who still buys and flies gliders? RC stuff is so cheap
L139[09:13:43] <Fluburtur> I have a friend who often gets cheap and bad plane rc toys and makes them proper
L140[09:13:56] <Mat2ch> hehe
L141[09:14:22] <Fluburtur> they are actually somewhat good, just need better electronics
L142[09:14:29] <Fluburtur> like old rc models
L143[09:14:51] <Fluburtur> the wing I got that was made in 2005 flies very well on modern electronics
L144[09:18:10] <Mat2ch> They did make good rc planes in the past and some are still in production, but yeah, electronics are getting better and better
L145[09:18:47] <Mat2ch> when I started 2.4 GHz was already available, but very very expensive. Try to find some 35 MHz gear nowadays
L146[09:19:07] <Fluburtur> yeah
L147[09:19:15] <Mat2ch> and I remember how they were talking about how bad 2.4 GHz is, with all the other users on the frequency
L148[09:19:21] <Arcan> you can get 5GHz now too
L149[09:19:26] <Mat2ch> nice
L150[09:19:32] <Mat2ch> how's the range?
L151[09:19:33] <Fluburtur> lower frequencies are still used on boats and submarines
L152[09:19:44] <Fluburtur> but those guys are complaining about it being hard to find too
L153[09:19:48] <Arcan> I dunno, I'm not really knowlegable on radios
L154[09:19:54] <Arcan> It's good enough?
L155[09:19:58] <Mat2ch> yeah, especially subs need a long wave to get their signals
L156[09:20:15] <Fluburtur> or cna do like real subs and have the antenna drift on the surface
L157[09:20:16] <Arcan> I only know because my grandpa was a dealer for DJI and some of their quads use a 5GHz signal
L158[09:20:32] <Fluburtur> yeah dji uses their own thing
L159[09:20:38] <Mat2ch> It's still sad that they didn't let us use digital signals on the 16 MHz band. That would be epic :D
L160[09:20:44] <Fluburtur> 5.8ghz is used for fpv video signal but it's analog
L161[09:21:27] <Fluburtur> I still need to come get your plane and boats
L162[09:21:40] <Fluburtur> unless you come here first heh
L163[09:21:59] <Fluburtur> well I planned on going to germany for flite fest europe but not much news on that
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L166[09:38:34] <Fluburtur> I think I will try epoxy glue to hold the nozzle in the rocket
L167[09:38:43] <Fluburtur> I only have metal epoxy but it should work
L168[09:38:45] <Althego> any rocket test?
L169[09:38:50] <Fluburtur> soon
L170[09:38:58] <Fluburtur> sooner than falcon heavy at least
L171[09:39:05] <Althego> hehe
L172[09:41:03] <Fluburtur> why don't I have solid vaseline
L173[09:41:15] <Fluburtur> that stuff is great to lubricate molds to have an easy release
L174[09:42:05] <Fluburtur> guess I could put some sort of oil on the 3d printed mold
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L176[09:43:03] <Althego> i think what you are talking about is mould
L177[09:43:14] <Althego> mold is something that grows under humid conditions :)
L178[09:43:24] <Fluburtur> that sounds backward
L179[09:44:25] <Althego> mold is the fungus that turns food green
L180[09:44:41] <Fluburtur> guess I need to make up some word then
L181[09:45:02] <Althego> and agent moulder had some ancestor who worked with moulds :)
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L183[09:52:15] <Fluburtur> mhhh epoxy glue smells nice
L184[09:53:32] <Althego> cant imagine that
L185[09:55:38] <Fluburtur> I think tis one has a good chance of not ejecting the nozzle
L186[09:55:53] <Fluburtur> will still put screws to retain the nozzle if the glue fails
L187[09:55:57] <Althego> hmm, smell of fresh hydrazine in the morning :)
L188[09:58:47] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/413109312802521098/437628300404195329/DSC_2488.JPG
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L190[10:04:33] <Fluburtur> apparently EPP and EPO foam aren't resings that foam up but rather pellets you need to heat up with moisture
L191[10:04:59] <user> Hello there
L192[10:05:08] <Fluburtur> yo
L193[10:05:12] <Fluburtur> are you a foam expert
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L196[10:06:07] <Anotgoodastronaut> I'm here also right concerning mod quenstions?
L197[10:06:23] <Fluburtur> just ask
L198[10:08:14] <Anotgoodastronaut> ckan doesn't let me add certain mods, how can I fix this?
L199[10:09:41] <Fluburtur> idk
L200[10:09:45] <Fluburtur> someone else might help you
L201[10:10:16] <Fluburtur> Althego entropy 7 test fire in 1 or 2 hours
L202[10:11:10] <Fluburtur> will 7 be the lucky number
L203[10:11:34] <Althego> what is with those eyepieces
L204[10:11:46] <Fluburtur> it is pieces of pvc tube
L205[10:11:48] <Anotgoodastronaut> Thank you anyways..
L206[10:14:32] <Anotgoodastronaut> What KSP version do you use, if I may ask? @ Flubutur
L207[10:19:20] <Fluburtur> 1.3.1 and 1.4.2
L208[10:21:12] <Mat2ch> Anotgoodastronaut: is it possible that the mod does not support your KSP version?
L209[10:21:57] <Anotgoodastronaut> I'm trying to get run RSS but it doesn't start after game launch. I've just the stock system
L210[10:22:52] <Mat2ch> You need KSP 1.3.1 for RSS/RO, what's your KSP version?
L211[10:23:10] <Anotgoodastronaut> I've 1.3.1 installed yet.
L212[10:31:20] <Mat2ch> so you've got two problems?
L213[10:31:28] <Mat2ch> Doesn't start and you can't add certain mods?
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L215[10:35:59] <Olympic1> Anotgoodastronaut: I installed RSS via ckan and the game runs fine
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L217[10:38:00] <Olympic1> When RSS is installed the game hangs a bit after load
L218[10:38:28] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/380846093002473475/437637743208562690/20180422171908_1.jpg
L219[10:39:43] <Mat2ch> so, what's the nozzle doing? Still drying?
L220[10:39:55] <Fluburtur> is done
L221[10:39:59] <Fluburtur> im preparing the test rig
L222[10:41:28] <Mat2ch> So you we're going to see a test firing today? :D
L223[10:41:38] <Mat2ch> You should live stream them. ;)
L224[10:42:13] <Fluburtur> eh I would need to put a whole electrical system to my garden
L225[10:42:20] <Fluburtur> and wouldn't be very impressive
L226[10:43:30] <Mat2ch> it's all about the show ;)
L227[10:43:40] <Mat2ch> You need an announcer, a countdown, etc :D
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L229[10:48:41] <GurrenLagannTSS> Hey guys
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L237[10:49:32] <GurrenLagannTSS> soo any ping timeouts
L238[10:49:39] <GurrenLagannTSS> use a client guys
L239[10:49:44] <GurrenLagannTSS> many*
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L243[10:49:50] <GurrenLagannTSS> ...
L244[10:50:17] <GurrenLagannTSS> has someome made multiple accounts?
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L252[10:51:06] <Anotgoodastronaut> Thank you, Olympic1 :)
L253[10:51:15] <GurrenLagannTSS> Hiiiii
L254[10:51:16] <Mod9000> Hello, GurrenLagannTSS
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L270[10:54:28] <Mimiru> Esper had at least one server drop so people are slowly dropping of the network, and connecting to different servers.
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L273[10:55:26] <Anotgoodastronaut> I guess 4gb Ram is not enough for RSS? Its still loading
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L280[10:58:02] <Mat2ch> depending on your computer it can take up to 10 minutes...
L281[10:58:31] <Mat2ch> but 4 GB Ram is very low
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L285[10:59:22] <Mat2ch> sounds like an old computer?
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L287[10:59:54] <Anotgoodastronaut> Its a laptop
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L289[11:00:14] <Anotgoodastronaut> with almost real solar system it worked pretty fine...
L290[11:02:40] <Fluburtur> well that test wasn't a success
L291[11:02:52] <Fluburtur> nozzle too large, not enough back presure this time
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L295[11:05:07] <Fluburtur> I will keep the current design but make the nozzle smaller
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L304[11:06:13] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: but no explosion?
L305[11:06:27] <Fluburtur> not enough presure for explosions
L306[11:06:34] <Mat2ch> Sad :/
L307[11:06:39] <Fluburtur> the rocket even stopped burning and I had to restart it
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L314[11:07:23] <Fluburtur> I have another mk3 nozzle ready so I will try to make a full hollow core design
L315[11:07:25] <Fluburtur> might work
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L318[11:08:37] <Fluburtur> yeah this one generated a whole 11 grams of thrust at peak
L319[11:08:51] <Fluburtur> and that was probably from the ignition charge
L320[11:09:13] <GurrenLagannCWP> hey
L321[11:09:37] <GurrenLagannCWP> someone took my name
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L324[11:10:39] <GurrenLagannTSS> Hi Fluburtur
L325[11:11:34] <GurrenLagannTSS> Oh oool, Anotgoodastronaut has a commparable pc to mine
L326[11:11:44] <GurrenLagannTSS> cool*
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L328[11:11:54] <GurrenLagannTSS> just a bit stronger
L329[11:12:01] <Notagoodastronaut> mine?
L330[11:12:02] <Notagoodastronaut> :D
L331[11:12:06] <GurrenLagannTSS> yeah
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L333[11:12:38] <Notagoodastronaut> An I thought I am the only 'insane' who tries to play big mods on such a rig
L334[11:12:56] <GurrenLagannTSS> mine is 3 gb ram with a AMD-Amptrom proccesor
L335[11:13:00] <GurrenLagannTSS> yeah
L336[11:13:11] <GurrenLagannTSS> once tried OPM
L337[11:13:17] <GurrenLagannTSS> it wont load
L338[11:13:29] <GurrenLagannTSS> then i saw... Out of Memory
L339[11:13:38] <GurrenLagannTSS> :O
L340[11:13:52] <Notagoodastronaut> celeron N3060^^
L341[11:14:17] <GurrenLagannTSS> let me check
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L343[11:14:47] <GurrenLagannTSS> yeah
L344[11:14:53] <Notagoodastronaut> Its 1.60GHZ max. rate is 2.48
L345[11:15:10] <GurrenLagannTSS> rip my pc gets dwarfed again
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L347[11:16:21] <Mat2ch> uhm, I got a five year old FX-8350 and KSP runs painfully slow sometimes
L348[11:16:45] <Mat2ch> I really need some new customers so I can upgrade to a Ryzen 2 :P
L349[11:16:50] <Notagoodastronaut> Does it still run on 32bit?
L350[11:16:55] <GurrenLagannTSS> yes
L351[11:17:12] <GurrenLagannTSS> It still runs on 32-bit
L352[11:17:31] <GurrenLagannTSS> but i use 1.3.1 since i'm stuck
L353[11:17:51] <Notagoodastronaut> Maybe it will be fixed...
L354[11:17:54] <Notagoodastronaut> hopefully
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L357[11:18:50] <GurrenLagannTSS> 2.8 GHz
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L361[11:19:00] <GurrenLagannTSS> a bit stronger
L362[11:19:10] <Fluburtur> Mat2ch look at this https://youtu.be/xUB4R9J7Iq0
L363[11:19:10] <kmath> YouTube - entropy 7 test fire
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L365[11:20:50] <Notagoodastronaut> Thats akward, almost real solarsystem works so nice, but RSS not
L366[11:20:56] <Notagoodastronaut> I don't get it
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L368[11:21:59] <RoboFreak> it is not burning so well
L369[11:22:17] <GurrenLagannTSS> Wait
L370[11:22:26] <GurrenLagannTSS> ARSS works for you?
L371[11:22:33] <Notagoodastronaut> Yes.
L372[11:22:33] <Fluburtur> if I revert to the 7mm nozzle it might work better
L373[11:22:48] * GurrenLagannTSS downloads the ARSS mod
L374[11:22:56] <Notagoodastronaut> although I fail to get into orbit with ARSS
L375[11:23:07] <Notagoodastronaut> because Kerbin is slightly bigger
L376[11:23:49] <GurrenLagannTSS> HyperEdit for life
L377[11:23:53] <Notagoodastronaut> the lowest periapsis was -500,000 metres, sooo close..
L378[11:23:57] <Notagoodastronaut> :D
L379[11:24:26] <Notagoodastronaut> -0
L380[11:25:26] <Fluburtur> https://youtu.be/-wyGxI7L2xQ
L381[11:25:26] <kmath> YouTube - entropy 7 high speed
L382[11:25:37] <Fluburtur> look how dirty that burn is
L383[11:25:39] <Notagoodastronaut> any Idea how I can edit the atmospheres?
L384[11:26:06] <Notagoodastronaut> would like to set the atmo in ARSS a litlebit deeper than 70kms
L385[11:35:55] <Fluburtur> https://78.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1ivopfHIe1r2q0z9o1_540.jpg
L386[11:38:20] <Notagoodastronaut> Gurren, does work ARSS also for you?
L387[11:39:05] <GurrenLagannTSS> Not tested yet
L388[11:39:26] <GurrenLagannTSS> Still downloading
L389[11:42:52] <GurrenLagannTSS> damm CKAN
L390[11:44:10] <Alanonzander> is there a stock sized Real Solar System?
L391[11:44:40] <RoboFreak> it wouldnt be real solar system at that size
L392[11:45:12] <UmbralRaptop> I think there is, but the size is an important difference, so…
L393[11:51:34] <GurrenLagannTSS> There is, its called SSRSS
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L395[11:55:29] <Notagoodastronaut> One question about the SSRSS version
L396[11:56:06] <Notagoodastronaut> ckan tells me that its made for 1.3.3, but steam only offers 1.3.1, will it work?
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L398[11:56:34] <GurrenLagannTSS> Yes, because 1.3.3 doesnt exist
L399[11:57:13] <Notagoodastronaut> Thats weird, I can't select it
L400[11:57:33] <Notagoodastronaut> SSRSS continued
L401[11:57:47] <GurrenLagannTSS> I can
L402[11:58:02] <GurrenLagannTSS> IDK why you cant
L403[11:58:11] <Notagoodastronaut> SSRSS continued its called
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L405[12:01:10] <GurrenLagannTSS> Weird, i can select it...
L406[12:01:22] <Draconiator> Yeesh, any of you have a cat and have to clean the litter box? I think you can weaponize that stuff......worst smell ever
L407[12:05:38] <VanDisaster> can apparently pick up some parasite that they're starting to think changes behaviour a bit too
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L410[12:29:22] <GurrenLagannTSS> Notagoodastronaut, ARSS works for me
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L412[12:36:33] <Notagoodastronaut> Nice!
L413[12:37:40] <Notagoodastronaut> Is it possible to edit the names of the celestial bodies without messing everything up?
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L415[12:46:00] <GurrenLagannTSS> Maybe
L416[12:46:30] <GurrenLagannTSS> Hey Ezriilc!
L417[12:47:29] <Ezriilc> Hey!
L418[12:47:40] <Ezriilc> Greetz, ya'all.
L419[12:47:53] <GurrenLagannTSS> How are you and HyperEdit doing?
L420[12:48:23] <Ezriilc> We are well, thanks. Howz you?
L421[12:48:49] <GurrenLagannTSS> Great!
L422[12:49:09] <Ezriilc> I think I'm almost ready to publish our current BETA-3 as a final release.
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L424[12:49:59] <GurrenLagannTSS> Yaaay!
L425[12:50:23] <GurrenLagannTSS> Hype!
L426[12:50:35] <Ezriilc> hehe, I'm glad you're excited. ;)
L427[12:52:56] <GurrenLagannTSS> I downloaded the ARSS mod
L428[12:53:21] <GurrenLagannTSS> Time to have some more fun
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L430[12:54:07] <Ezriilc> I'm sort-of pretending to be a real boy today, so ping me if you need anything.
L431[12:55:52] <GurrenLagannTSS> Ok!
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L433[13:04:59] <GurrenLagannTSS> Trying OPM + ARSS
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L436[13:12:08] <Notagoodastronaut> what is OPM?
L437[13:14:41] <Althego> outer planets mod
L438[13:14:46] <Althego> also one punch man :)
L439[13:17:08] <Notagoodastronaut> I'll give a try
L440[13:20:56] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: yeah, looks good, but no force...
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L442[13:25:53] <Fluburtur> nah it doesn't even look or sound good
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L444[13:28:47] <Fluburtur> at least I think gluing the nozzle with epoxy is a viable idea
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L446[13:30:09] <Fluburtur> I kinda want to cut this one in half
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L448[13:32:33] <Mat2ch> do it for the research points! :D
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L450[13:37:08] <Fluburtur> well I destroyed the nozzle
L451[13:37:14] <Fluburtur> but I found out why it didn't work very well
L452[13:37:18] <Fluburtur> fuel was wet
L453[13:37:31] <Fluburtur> need to cook it more next time
L454[13:42:41] <Mat2ch> https://youtu.be/38aFKc7Y3EY?t=79 that looks like a fairing?
L455[13:43:00] <Fluburtur> yeah
L456[13:43:32] <Mat2ch> also the robot is under the F9
L457[13:43:40] <Mat2ch> and somehow securing it
L458[13:45:32] <Fluburtur> well I didn't see the video but I guess automated leg welder
L459[13:48:24] <Mat2ch> you really thing it's welding itself to the ship?
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L461[13:48:38] <Fluburtur> well the dudes had to weld the legs to the ship before
L462[13:48:45] <Fluburtur> then unbolt the legs and lift the rocket
L463[13:49:13] <JCB> if i can get a probe to orbit and return from mun.. safe to say can easily do same thing with the same craft around minmus?
L464[13:50:10] <Fluburtur> yeah
L465[13:50:24] <Mat2ch> I suggest KER and a dV map. But since Minmus has much lower gravity it should be possible to use the same craft
L466[13:50:41] <Fluburtur> minmus usually requires less dv than mun
L467[13:51:36] <JCB> I know about the landing part... but ...
L468[13:52:00] <JCB> sorta skipping over the landing part.
L469[13:52:44] <JCB> doing a stupid challenge with myself... seeing how far along I can go before I /have/ to upgrade VAB...
L470[13:52:50] <Mat2ch> there's a dV map in the topic, let me see :D
L471[13:53:09] <Mat2ch> yup, it's less to orbit
L472[13:53:41] <JCB> I had to laugh, trying to get to the mun, without upgraded anything, not even patch conics.. don't know if you actually going to hit mun SOI till you actually there.
L473[13:55:35] <JCB> minmus... well considering its so far out, takes quite a bit of time, almost have to get the 'flight planning' part..
L474[13:56:17] <JCB> ok well that extra DV, I can use for slowing down, don't wanna burn up on re-entry last minute
L475[13:57:01] <Fluburtur> I made a nice ion rock hopper for low gravity bodies such as the mun and lighter
L476[13:57:10] <Fluburtur> I tested it so I should do an actual mission with it
L477[13:58:32] <JCB> ... one of the early versions, I launched and landed a 1 person ion sail ship on the mun...
L478[13:58:54] <JCB> mind you... think I had like 12 ion engines c_c;
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L483[14:20:51] <Fluburtur> mine has 6 and two solar panels
L484[14:21:09] <Fluburtur> one good thing about weather being warm, I can open the window of my room and blast music
L485[14:21:28] <Fluburtur> hope the neighbors like listening to RATM at midnight
L486[14:23:11] <Fluburtur> I wonder how loud my big amp can actually get
L487[14:23:30] <Fluburtur> it's a 2x 30watts with a pair of 10" speakers so probably very loud
L488[14:23:50] <Fluburtur> running it at like 1/4 of the power is already apinfully loud in my room
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L490[14:33:59] <Mat2ch> 30 W? You will kill your speakers...
L491[14:34:24] <Fluburtur> well for once this isn't something I built
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L493[14:34:49] <Fluburtur> but it's jensen speakers and those are supposed to be high quality so I trust the dudes make it so it doesn't explode
L494[14:35:15] <Mat2ch> The problem with that low power from the amp and those huge speakers is that the signal from the amp will turn into DC if you turn it up to much
L495[14:35:29] <Mat2ch> and there are only a few things speakers don't like. DC is one of them.
L496[14:35:53] <Fluburtur> well dik what they did then
L497[14:36:01] <Fluburtur> maybe the power amplifier has something for that
L498[14:36:45] <Mat2ch> hopefully
L499[14:37:13] <Fluburtur> anyways I have no need to turn it that high
L500[14:37:38] <Fluburtur> I think the highest I used it with a guitar was like half power
L501[14:37:48] <Fluburtur> the audio coming grom my computer turns out much louder
L502[14:38:14] <Fluburtur> I also have my other amp which is 20w and it is rather loud too
L503[14:38:26] <Fluburtur> with a homemade cabinet that shakes rather hard when I trn it up
L504[14:38:36] <Fluburtur> it's a guitar amp but works very well for bass
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L510[14:58:36] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231106102693986314/437703699402457108/WP_20150130_14_29_22_Pro.jpg
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L514[15:04:40] <Fluburtur> uh I just found a random ksp save from 2015 in my computer
L515[15:04:43] <Fluburtur> should try to play it
L516[15:05:04] <Fluburtur> 1.0.4
L517[15:14:20] <lordcirth> Anyone know what the simplest way to get 5m+ fairings is? I know proc fairings will do it
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L522[15:23:31] <Supernovy> Evening, Gentlemen.
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L524[15:23:44] <Guest39318> Hello everyone!!
L525[15:23:47] *** Guest39318 is now known as Lokist
L526[15:24:24] <Lokist> I've got an issue trying to complete a polar orbit satellite contract. I can get everything except the most seemingly basic part of the contract completed.
L527[15:24:40] <Lokist> I can't get "build a new unmanned satellite taht has an antenna and can generate power"
L528[15:25:01] <Fluburtur> no kerbal in sat
L529[15:25:27] <Lokist> I have batteries, solar panels, a remote guidance unit, and an antenna
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L531[15:25:42] <Fluburtur> weird
L532[15:25:45] <Lokist> I don't have any kerbals in there, which I believe is correct
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L534[15:25:59] <Lokist> it's very odd, and I've tried this contract 5 times now
L535[15:26:14] <Fluburtur> you can complete it with cheats
L536[15:26:15] <Lokist> should that part of the contract go green in the hangar? I keep going all the way to the orbit to check
L537[15:26:27] <Lokist> yeah, maybe it's a bug :(
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L539[15:27:21] <Lokist> it just feels so ... cheaty
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L541[15:27:34] <APlayer> Hi!
L542[15:27:40] <Fluburtur> well you got the required conditions
L543[15:28:05] <Fluburtur> take it like when you take a test and then rate it yourself
L544[15:28:35] <Lokist> just wish I didn't have to go in to the cheat menu
L545[15:28:45] <Lokist> thanks though
L546[15:28:54] <Lokist> forgot that it was super easy to complete a contract
L547[15:28:54] <Fluburtur> call it "debug" menu and it will feel better
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L549[15:29:28] <Lokist> haha
L550[15:29:38] <Lokist> Hi APlayer
L551[15:30:20] <APlayer> The debug menu is useful if your rocket has hardware bugs. :P
L552[15:31:02] <Fluburtur> I often use it to allow clipping
L553[15:31:10] <Fluburtur> most of my design use a lot of clipped parts
L554[15:32:33] <APlayer> I tend to use the offset tool to move parts into each other, when it makes sense. For example radial monoprop tanks, I hate how much they stick out.
L555[15:33:04] <Fluburtur> offset is really useful for planes
L556[15:33:08] <Fluburtur> but rockets too
L557[15:33:19] <Fluburtur> clip batteries and probe cores in them
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L559[15:39:03] <APlayer> Yeah, I often use it for batteries and other things too. I'd say the offset tool is the one I use by far the most. Aside from normal placement of parts. Though, I guess I use the two pretty comparably.
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L562[15:51:02] <thelounge0> k123401
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L576[16:35:10] <GurrenLagannTSS> Hey guys
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L578[16:37:48] <GurrenLagannTSS> Notagoodastronaut, OPM + ARSS broke again
L579[16:39:29] <GurrenLagannTSS> Can you try it in your PC?
L580[16:42:24] <Notagoodastronaut> GurrenLaganTSS, still there? Sorry havent seen your message. I've already tryed it. It just messed up my instalation.
L581[16:42:50] <GurrenLagannTSS> Expected
L582[16:43:27] <GurrenLagannTSS> Also Jool looks AMAZING on ARSS
L583[16:49:07] <Notagoodastronaut> yea,I like the outer Neptunlike Planet
L584[16:51:07] <GurrenLagannTSS> Neptunlike? are you running OPM with it
L585[16:56:45] <GurrenLagannTSS> oh
L586[16:56:53] <GurrenLagannTSS> Xylia
L587[16:56:58] <GurrenLagannTSS> great easter egg
L588[16:57:31] <Notagoodastronaut> Yea, that I've meant.
L589[16:58:29] <GurrenLagannTSS> You got me
L590[16:59:25] <GurrenLagannTSS> Its a Planet 9 analouge i seems
L591[17:02:29] <Notagoodastronaut> kinda yes.
L592[17:03:08] <Notagoodastronaut> Did you managed it to get into the orbit wiht ARSS?
L593[17:03:29] <Notagoodastronaut> You'll need more dV then before.
L594[17:03:30] <GurrenLagannTSS> Havent launched a rocket yet
L595[17:03:57] <GurrenLagannTSS> After that, i will create new planets
L596[17:07:24] <GurrenLagannTSS> great
L597[17:07:33] <GurrenLagannTSS> VAB stoppeed working
L598[17:07:59] * GurrenLagannTSS restarts KSP
L599[17:13:14] <GurrenLagannTSS> Now its working
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L601[17:35:12] <Notagoodastronaut> VAB?
L602[17:38:39] <GurrenLagannTSS> Yes
L603[17:38:58] <GurrenLagannTSS> Veichle Assembly Building
L604[17:39:10] <GurrenLagannTSS> That's where you build rockets
L605[17:49:22] <Notagoodastronaut> Ah, I see-
L606[17:52:11] <GurrenLagannTSS> Just finished the deorbiter stage
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L611[18:02:18] <GurrenLagannTSS> Hey UmbralRaptop
L612[18:02:30] <UmbralRaptop> \o
L613[18:02:52] <GurrenLagannTSS> Trying out the ARSS mod
L614[18:03:17] <GurrenLagannTSS> and omg Jool is amazing + Planet 9 analouge
L615[18:12:49] <GurrenLagannTSS> Notagoodastronaut, i think i found out how to make a thicker/deeper atmosphere
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L617[18:14:33] <GurrenLagannTSS> I think you need to go to GameData\(Almost)RealSolarSystem\Configs, then open Scaling.cfg and change Atmosphere = 1
L618[18:14:33] <GurrenLagannTSS> to any number
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L620[18:15:30] <Notagoodastronaut> thank you!
L621[18:15:54] <GurrenLagannTSS> or GameData\(Almost)RealSolarSystem and to Settings.cfg and change atmosphereMultiplier = 1 to any number
L622[18:16:01] <GurrenLagannTSS> NP
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L626[18:29:16] <GurrenLagannTSS> "Angel Kerman"
L627[18:34:39] <Notagoodastronaut> You said, that you're adding planets, which tool do you use?
L628[18:35:38] <Notagoodastronaut> I'm thinking about how it could be possible to convert ARSS in an another RSS mod..
L629[18:36:34] <Notagoodastronaut> I mean, the most bodies which needed are already in, just two gas giants are mising (a Saturn and a Uranus like)
L630[18:36:43] <GurrenLagannTSS> Kopernicus and Notepad++ because why not?
L631[18:40:20] <GurrenLagannTSS> But Xylia was made to represent Planet 9
L632[18:40:40] <GurrenLagannTSS> The description alone gives a hint
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L636[18:51:50] <GurrenLagannTSS> ...
L637[18:52:10] *** waldemar_ is now known as aReallyBadCosmonaut
L638[18:53:00] <aReallyBadCosmonaut> someone grabbed my nick...
L639[18:54:57] <UmbralRaptop> Looks like a connection issue, and you had to wait for the old instance to ping out.
L640[18:55:21] <GurrenLagannTSS> rip
L641[18:55:45] <GurrenLagannTSS> aReallyBadCosmonaut, use a client, HexChat for example
L642[18:58:40] <GurrenLagannTSS> omg game crashed
L643[19:00:52] <aReallyBadCosmonaut> I'm using hexchat^^
L644[19:01:21] <aReallyBadCosmonaut> I kinda rally like the procedural parts mod.
L645[19:02:06] <aReallyBadCosmonaut> kinde helpful when you wanna build something like a R-7, etc.
L646[19:02:15] <GurrenLagannTSS> true
L647[19:05:41] * TheKosmonaut spots another Cosmonaut
L648[19:07:06] <UmbralRaptop> Cosmonautics Day was almost 2 weeks ago.
L649[19:11:51] <GurrenLagannTSS> launching tomorrow
L650[19:11:57] <aReallyBadCosmonaut> Hey there :D
L651[19:11:58] <GurrenLagannTSS> Good night
L652[19:12:08] <aReallyBadCosmonaut> Bye^^
L653[19:12:09] <GurrenLagannTSS> Byeee
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L674[21:03:38] <Rokker> Supernovy: o/
L675[21:03:44] <Supernovy> yo
L676[21:03:55] <Rokker> how are you
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L679[21:17:25] <Supernovy> I'm recovering from a cold.
L680[21:36:20] <Rokker> Supernovy: fun
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