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L20[01:59:54] <kmath> YouTube - Tour of the
Moon in 4K
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L24[02:15:58] <jgkamat> pretty nice video,
I found the music a bit distracting though :/
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L39[03:17:01] <kmath> <✔SurreySat>
SSTL reaches into the digital gaming world, teaming with Coatl
Aerospace to provide a virtual SSTL-300 satellite fo…
https://t.co/plfBGkt6W9
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L55[05:27:52] <BadRocketsCo> Howdy
L56[05:27:56] <Fluburtur> yo
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L67[05:56:27] <Fluburtur> nice
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L72[06:31:32] <taniwha> a bag that
determines the cost of a woman?
L73[06:31:43] <taniwha> er, price
L74[06:38:00] <Gasher_> i thought these
were not in legal circulation :)
L75[06:42:54] <Eddi|zuHause> i think i'm
missing a few layers of jokes here
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L77[07:12:46] <taniwha> Eddi|zuHause:
ambiguity in Japanese
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L85[07:51:46] <Helpmeland101> Hi guys
L86[07:51:53] <Helpmeland101> Is APlayer
here?
L87[07:52:15] <Helpmeland101> Can somebody
tell me the maximum weight for mun lander?
L88[07:52:25] <Helpmeland101> on the start
of career mode
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L90[07:55:58] <Gasher_> ...
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L99[08:50:29] <APlayer> Hi!
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L103[09:01:36] <Guest69706> Where should I
go after Duna?
L104[09:01:43] <Fluburtur> Dres
L105[09:02:29] <Guest69706> Dres is boring
tho
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L108[09:04:06] <Deddly> Guest69706,
depends what you feel like doing. Eve is usually the natural next
step
L109[09:09:19] <Guest69706> I usually do
manned missions and returning from Eve is near impossible
L110[09:10:06] <Fluburtur> put an orbital
lab then
L111[09:10:10] <Fluburtur> with
probes
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L114[09:14:02] <APlayer> You may skim the
upper atmosphere a few times
L115[09:14:18] <APlayer> Or try Moho/Jool
which I'd call comparable in difficulty
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L117[09:27:48] <Althego> nobody ever goes
to dres
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L120[09:29:34] <PacoKerman> Hello
L121[09:29:36] <Mod9000> Hello,
PacoKerman
L122[09:31:46] <PacoKerman> I'm trying to
figure math to make interplanetary transfers. I can do the dV math,
but I can't figure how to know when should I start the burn. I can
calculate the time I need to reach the other body, and the angular
distance the other body will travel, but how can I know the current
position of a body?
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L124[09:32:10] <PacoKerman> I'm trying to
do it with kOS
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L126[09:32:49] <Deddly> Hmm. Sorry I can't
help there, I use online tools to get the launch window and
ejection angle right
L127[09:33:33] <Deddly> But maybe someone
else knows
L128[09:35:50] <PacoKerman> Thanks, I use
them too but I'm curious about the underlying method to do it
L129[09:43:56] <UmbralRaptop> You can work
backwards -- a Hohmann transfer aweeps out 180 degrees in the same
time as the target planet does some angle. Subtracting gives the
relative positions for a launch.
L130[09:44:26] <UmbralRaptop> But if you
mean getting exactly where a planet is right bow via an API, I'm
not sure.
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L134[09:54:15] <iamfishhead> PacoKerman: I
think several of the tools are actually open source
L135[09:54:24] <iamfishhead> So you can
just read the code
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L143[10:30:53] <PacoKerman> iamFinished:
Thank you!
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L145[10:45:58] <Fluburtur> I should
probably desing my new nozzles
L146[10:46:32] <Althego> again?
L147[10:46:40] <Fluburtur> well the last
one failed
L148[10:46:50] <Althego> did you do
another test, or is this from the number 6 or so
L149[10:47:03] <Fluburtur> nah last one
was number 6
L150[10:47:28] <Fluburtur> I will make one
with a sort of oval inner shape to collect the gases
L151[10:49:33] <Fluburtur> the last one
had a 7mm throat so I will try a 8mm one this time
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L155[11:04:41] <Fluburtur> uh I really
don't know what shape to make those nozzles
L156[11:05:05] <Althego> simulate them
with finite elements :)
L157[11:05:21] <Fluburtur> if they were
full hollow core I wouldn't need to convergent part
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L159[11:05:38] <Althego> what, that is the
point of the whole nozzle
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L161[11:05:54] <Fluburtur> yeah
L162[11:06:03] <Fluburtur> but im pretty
sure the issue is on the gas collecting part
L163[11:06:33] <Althego> activate bussard
collectors :)
L164[11:06:58] <Fluburtur> heh
L165[11:07:11] <Fluburtur> I guess I need
a good laminar flow inside the nozzle
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L168[11:10:22] <Fluburtur> I guess that
would work?
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L172[11:38:31] <Mostly_Deddly> Fluburtur,
I thought you were going to use the same nozzle but held more
firmly in place
L173[11:38:50] <Fluburtur> nah
L174[11:39:05] <Fluburtur> that won't
solve the burn instability problem
L175[11:42:04] <Fluburtur> I think the
problem is that the presure has trouble getting out of the
engine
L176[11:42:14] <Fluburtur> so that means
it is chocked somewhere
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L178[11:51:10] <Mostly_Deddly> Maybe
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L182[11:56:41] <Althego> hmm there was a
successful long march lauch
L183[11:58:12] <Judge_Dedd>
!nextlaunch
L184[11:58:17] <Judge_Dedd> :/
L186[12:01:56] <Judge_Dedd> Thanks,
Althegobot :)
L188[12:05:28] <Fluburtur> Draconiator I
have a challenge for you
L189[12:05:44] <Judge_Dedd> It always
bothered me that solar panels are so OP in KSP
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L192[12:07:18] <Rokker> Judge_Dedd: I like
how you can refold panels infinite times even tho I'm not sure
that's a thing that's ever existed irl
L193[12:07:28] <Rokker> easily refolding
space solar panels
L194[12:08:04] <Judge_Dedd> Well, only
some can be refolded
L195[12:08:19] <Judge_Dedd> But I suppose
that's true
L196[12:08:27] <Rokker> we can't even
unfold the ISS solar panels without tearing one but you can
magically fold these suckers however many times you want
L197[12:08:54] <Draconiator> Okiedokie
flub, need to plop it in the crafts folder and see what we got
here.
L198[12:09:00] <Fluburtur> speaking as
solar panels, I want some the same size as the large
radiators
L199[12:09:15] <Judge_Dedd> Rokker, I get
what you're saying, but that's a playability compromise that seems
reasonable to me
L200[12:09:38] <Judge_Dedd> Like
restarting rocket engines
L201[12:09:52] <Judge_Dedd> And like
0-100% throttle capability
L202[12:10:09] <Rokker> all
disgusting
L203[12:10:12] <Judge_Dedd> It's not
really how it is in real life, but it's OK for stock KSP, in my
opinion.
L204[12:10:17] <Fluburtur> Rokker mods can
probably solve your problem
L205[12:10:35] <Fluburtur> yeah it's
important to remember that beginners sometimes play ksp
L206[12:10:40] <Fluburtur> noy only
tryhards
L207[12:10:45] <Althego> no, only museum
solves rokker's problem
L208[12:10:50] <Rokker> ^
L209[12:11:26] <Judge_Dedd> The solar
panels are annoying, though, because they are actually OP. Same for
the RTG. It should gradually lose power over time
L210[12:11:47] <bees> Sun is op,
true
L211[12:11:51] <Draconiator> Flub, it's
incompatible, but I may be able to get it to work by changing the
version number in Notepad
L212[12:11:52] <Fluburtur> it does have a
efficiency thing
L213[12:11:53] <Althego> hehe
L214[12:11:53] <bees> waaaay too much
power output
L215[12:12:07] <Fluburtur> rtg should make
less power when warmer
L216[12:12:18] <Fluburtur> Draconiator
yeah I play on a recent version of the game
L217[12:12:27] <Fluburtur> but there
shouldn't be any bad part in there
L218[12:13:40] <Draconiator> Yep, changing
the version number fixed it.
L219[12:14:02] <Fluburtur> you should like
this plane
L220[12:14:06] <Fluburtur> simple but
works well
L221[12:14:14] <Fluburtur> can reach
decent speed and altitude too
L222[12:14:56] <Draconiator> Love the
engine placement.
L223[12:15:15] <Fluburtur> I tried to
recreated the real life yak 15
L225[12:17:15] <Althego> that is
ugly
L226[12:17:37] <Fluburtur> no is good
plane
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L228[12:17:43] <Fluburtur> just a yak 9
with jet engine
L229[12:17:51] <Althego> the 2 are
unrelated
L230[12:18:09] <Judge_Dedd> I can just
imagine an enemy pilot saying that as he gets shot down.
"Aaah, you got me. But you're still ugly!"
L231[12:19:05] <Fluburtur> ok it was based
on the yak 3
L232[12:19:14] <Fluburtur> but the yak 3
and 9 were fairly similar
L233[12:24:50] <Judge_Dedd> Hey cool, I
just found out that I'm only 43% human
L235[12:25:56] <Judge_Dedd>
(approximately)
L236[12:28:34] <sandbox> yeah, read that
earlier
L237[12:29:39] <sandbox> one can probably
assume that some of us are less human than others
L238[12:29:44] <Judge_Dedd> I wonder what
the percentage is by weight
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L240[12:39:00] <Fluburtur> I would like to
have some clear sky and nice temperature next weekend
L241[12:39:15] <Fluburtur> this way I
could go out with my friend to go star hunting
L242[12:39:25] <Fluburtur> grab our
telescopes and go in the middle of nowhere
L243[12:39:29] <UmbralRaptop> By mass,
you're about 90% human. IIRC.
L244[12:40:15] <UmbralRaptop> Fluburtur:
careful, the clounds know.
L245[12:40:24] <Fluburtur> yeah
L247[12:41:30] <Fluburtur> that landing
gears look a bit narrow
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L251[12:46:48] <Judge_Dedd> The single
wheel should also be at the back, apparently.
L252[12:47:54] <Fluburtur> my desing was
like that
L253[12:47:59] <Fluburtur> but I gave it
to drac to mod
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L255[12:52:05] <Draconiator> Yeah, I'm now
putting BDA/Aviator Arsenal stuff on it. I usually go crazy with
the AI because my planes are super maneuverable, but I think I'm
gonna go conservative here.
L256[12:52:28] <Fluburtur> this one has
decent performances
L257[12:52:36] <Fluburtur> fairly
realistic actually
L258[12:52:48] <Fluburtur> I should send
you the k29 if you like crazy planes
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L260[13:11:03] <Gasher> Judge_Dedd, it was
made of metal
L261[13:11:20] <Gasher> right after when
the rubber one burnt away
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L263[13:11:57] <Gasher> it is the first
jet Yak and if memory serves it was basically a piston one with jet
attached
L264[13:12:07] <Fluburtur> yeah
L265[13:12:12] <Fluburtur> yak 3 with jet
engine
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L270[13:28:26] <Guest1232> Guys I think
I'm addicted to ksp...
L271[13:29:06] <Althego> hehe
L272[13:29:27] <Althego> you may get
better in a few years
L274[13:31:44] <Althego> hehe
L275[13:32:00] <Althego> i thought you
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L290[14:43:29] <Black_Eagle> so are rapier
nose cones in fashion at the moment?
L291[14:43:49] <Black_Eagle> do i need the
nose cone for a drag reduction or is it already fixed
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L296[15:15:29] <Mat2ch> hot so hot!
L297[15:15:43] <Fluburtur> it can be
refilled
L298[15:15:48] <Mat2ch> first half of your
liquid fuel engine?
L299[15:15:55] <Fluburtur> so I kinda want
to make something dumb with it
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L307[15:52:06] <Lyneira> The framerate is
absolutely horrendous though, even though it's only 91 parts
L308[15:55:14] <Lyneira> Seems to be
better after a KSP restart
L309[16:03:22] <Lyneira> Black_Eagle: I
can verify nose cones on rapiers are definitely still in fashion. A
small nose cone cuts the drag nearly in half (and adds very little
itself)
L310[16:10:53] <Lyneira> If you use an
advanced nosecone and offset it inside the rapier, you can cut the
drag more than in half
L311[16:11:06] <Lyneira> (combined drag of
rapier + advanced nosecone)
L312[16:12:10] <Lyneira> Oddly enough, a
Nerv nuclear engine (while being quite a bit bigger) has almost
half the drag of an unconed rapier
L313[16:12:12] <Fluburtur> I think I have
found a match to my k29
L314[16:12:20] <Fluburtur> the ks2000 is
very good
L315[16:12:29] <Fluburtur> Draconiator
this is good news
L316[16:12:31] <Fluburtur> but not for
you
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L318[16:12:57] <Supernovy> Evening,
Gentlemen.
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L320[16:21:17] <Draconiator> so if I want
you to check out a stock plane from now on, I'll change the version
number in it to 1.3.1
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L329[16:56:06] <Fluburtur> my k29 keep
crashing into the ground
L330[16:56:14] <Fluburtur> I should change
the minimum altitude
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L339[17:41:24] <Black_Eagle>
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
L340[17:41:53] <Black_Eagle> Lyneira,
thanks
L341[17:42:22] <Black_Eagle> and I hate it
when KSP thinks items in my cargo bay should affect my
aerodynamics
L342[17:52:58] <Draconiator> If you have
it open maybe.
L343[17:56:31] ***
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L344[17:58:39] <Black_Eagle> no. something
was poking out of the bay inside the plane by about a
millimetre
L345[18:03:33] <TheKosmonaut> Black_Eagle:
I remember when this was brought up during development
L346[18:03:48] <TheKosmonaut> And the
response was "naw don't worry about it fam"
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L352[18:45:53] <Black_Eagle> TheKosmonaut
yup. ragequit, enough of ksp today
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L354[18:56:33] <Tank2333> o/
L355[18:57:45] <Tank2333> anything new in
spaceland?
L356[18:58:29] <marcus> Ooooooooooooh Near
Future mods and Station Parts are out!
L357[18:58:49] *
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L389[21:31:15] <taniwha> Draconiator:
because a VM still runs on the CPU
L390[21:31:48] <Iskierka> if it was
totally virtualised to the point that it had no need to know the
CPU it would be unusuable
L391[21:42:46] <Draconiator> and also
virtualbox REFUSES to use the same MS-DOS vhd when I need it to
install stuff that needs DOS to install....oiiiii
L392[21:44:58] <taniwha> why not use
dosbox?
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L395[21:56:56] <VanDisaster> neat, there's
already an arm port of dosbox
L396[21:59:32] <VanDisaster> now to find a
dos game that won't murder an armv8
L397[22:01:49] <Draconiator> I do use
dosbox for old gaming, this is just to see what makes different
OSes tick heh
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L403[22:17:41] <Scolar_Visari> Sons and
daughters of Kerbin: Io is on fire! Everything is burning!
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L407[22:20:31] <Supernovy> We didn't start
the fire.
L408[22:21:45] <Scolar_Visari> Supernovy:
It was always burning since Kharak's been turning!
L409[22:22:37] <Supernovy> Is there
lightning on Io, or did I just make that up because I thought space
lightning would be cool?
L410[22:22:49] <Scolar_Visari> T'was the
Taiidan Empire, Kushan didn't light it but they tried to fight
it.
L411[22:23:27] <Scolar_Visari> Supernovy:
I'm afraid that, if I look that up, 99% of my results will be from
the Electric Universe croud.
L412[22:23:47] <Scolar_Visari> Though
volcanoes on Earth *do* emit lightning from time to time.
L413[22:23:53] <Supernovy> If only they
were the eclectic universe, then I might agree.
L414[22:24:47] <Scolar_Visari> I dunno,
they also believe Saturn was uncomfortably close to Earth at one
point.
L415[22:26:47] <Scolar_Visari> Or was it
Venus? Meh.
L416[22:30:54] <UmbralRaptop> This sounds
like something from Velikovsky.
L417[22:31:00] <Scolar_Visari> Immanuel
Velikovsky = Electric Universe + lip service to Hannes Alfvén by
people who have never actually read Hannes Alfvén.
L418[22:31:05] <Scolar_Visari>
Teehee.
L419[22:33:15] *
Scolar_Visari notes that Thunderbolts has a page entitled,
"Velikovsky the Unsung Genius".
L420[22:33:43] <UmbralRaptop> Ꚛ_ꚛ
L422[22:35:14] *
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first.
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L424[22:36:33] *
Scolar_Visari wriggles their tentacles in amusement as Interstellar
is mentioned in the article.
L425[22:37:07] <UmbralRaptop> Wait, the EU
people don't think SR is real?
L426[22:38:02] <UmbralRaptop> They *do*
know that it came out of electromagnetism, right?
L427[22:39:42] <Scolar_Visari>
UmbralRaptop: If it's mainstream, they probably deny it. Mind you,
I've gotten the impression that a lot of anti-relativity has to do
more with antisemitism than anything else.
L428[22:40:26] <Scolar_Visari> They're
just jealous and upset, of course, that Deutschesphysik couldn't
ever hope to make nuclear weapons.
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L431[22:43:06] <Scolar_Visari> Hrm . . .
Interstellar has amusing robots. But Under Siege has Gary
Busey.
L432[22:43:31] *
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L434[22:44:57] <UmbralRaptop> ;choose
Interstellar|Under Siege
L435[22:44:57] <kmath> UmbralRaptop:
Interstellar
L436[22:46:23] <Scolar_Visari> Alrighty
then. Though now I think I should also seriously play the Blorg and
make space friends forever.
L437[22:46:48] <UmbralRaptop> Blorg?
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L439[22:50:17] <Scolar_Visari> They're a
militarist/fanatical xenophile default species from Stellaris. They
just want to be friends with everyone, by force if need be.
L441[22:50:48] <Scolar_Visari> It sort of
started as a joke during the pre-release streams.
L442[22:51:28] <UmbralRaptop> hah
L443[22:54:14] <Scolar_Visari> They are
also, unfortunately, quite hideous to look at and receive a foreign
opinion penalty. They're also very lonely and get a happiness
penalty.
L444[22:55:02] <Scolar_Visari> The Blorg
also get their very own AI personality: "Fanatic
Befrienders"
L445[22:56:11] <Scolar_Visari> The actual
game description: "Fanatical Befrienders are highly friendly
but deeply lonely individuals. They will attempt to make friends by
any means necessary."
L446[22:57:02] <UmbralRaptop> Friendship
is mandatory.
L447[22:58:48] <Supernovy> Acquaintance is
futile.
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