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L1[00:07:43] ⇨
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L2[00:09:31] <oren> suppose instead of one
kerbal pushing a spacecraft you designed the spacecraft with
nacelles containing teams of kerbals
L3[00:10:01] <Althego> lol
L4[00:10:02] <oren> who would take turns
pushing and going inside to recharge
L5[00:10:21] <Althego> you can use only one
nacelle
L6[00:10:29] <Althego> because you can take
control of only one kerbal
L7[00:10:59] <taniwha> there are mods for
that
L8[00:11:10] <oren> Althego: but kerbals
respond to trim controls right
L9[00:11:14] <taniwha> (burn together, and
some follow-the-leader thing for kerbals)
L10[00:11:16] <Althego> does burn tugether
work for kerbals?
L11[00:11:33] <Althego> hmm i never thought
of trim
L12[00:11:54] <taniwha> do they?
L13[00:14:02] <oren> although it would be
hilarious to do it with one kerbal laboriously pushing a 200 ton
ship to jool
L14[00:14:34] <Althego> lol
L15[00:14:37] <Althego> slower than
ion
L16[00:19:03] <oren> Althego: it's the
kerbal version of the EmDrive, no mods needed
L17[00:40:13] <Draconiator> Bad Idea #1 -
Making a MASSIVE virtual disk drive and having it take FOREVERRRRR
to complete
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L23[01:33:29] <Althego> finally it is
over
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L25[01:33:38] <Althego> free from the
election ads
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L29[02:24:45] <Tortoise767> went to subway
and back..ate food. opened ksp, rocket crashed. didnt even know i
had a rocket flying
L30[02:25:51] <Althego> hehe
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L34[03:29:06] <Eddi|zuHause>
<Althego> free from the election ads <--- after the
election is before the election
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L37[03:35:19] <Gasher[work]> i recall a
good caricature about elections but it would be unappropriate
here
L38[03:38:15] <Eddi|zuHause> it might be
particularly bad in germany, due to the federal system and the
voting dates not being synchronized between states, there's always
an election somewhere
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L56[05:56:53] <Helpmeland101> Hi!
L57[05:56:58] <Helpmeland101> I'm
back
L58[05:57:11] <Helpmeland101> IS APlayer
here?
L59[05:57:23] <Helpmeland101> I guess
no
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L62[06:10:33] <Althego> hehe that didnt
take too long
L63[06:11:43] <Althego> when do we get the
event horizon picture?
L64[06:17:28] <Mat2ch> When will the Event
Horizon arrive?
L65[06:18:29] <Althego> it stays where it
is
L66[06:18:39] <Althego> the picture is
scattered on hundreds of hdds
L67[06:21:26] <Mat2ch> So, you think the
Event Horizon shouldn't be rescued?
L68[06:34:21] <Mat2ch> Am I getting old or
does nobody get the reference to this 21 year old movie? :P
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L70[06:35:30] <Gasher[work]> Mat2ch, i
don't get the picture part. i remember the movie
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L72[06:41:27] <Mat2ch> Gasher[work]: oh,
they're currently taking a picture of a black hole and are trying
to capture the event horizon
L73[06:41:35] <Mat2ch> also Event Horizon
wasn't a good movie. :P
L74[06:42:05] <Gasher[work]> a movie don't
have to be good to become cult
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L79[06:58:25] <Eddi|zuHause> sometimes you
think those two are mutually exclusive
L80[07:00:01] <Gasher[work]> maybe it has
some roots in myths where gods had to have deficiences to be
gods
L81[07:06:06] <Eddi|zuHause> maybe that's
when they decided to replace all those gods with one universal god?
(see also
https://xkcd.com/927/)
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L83[07:30:00] <schnobs> CKAN throwing SSL
errors again. Is it just me, or do others see it as well?
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L85[08:00:10] <Mat2ch> schnobs: Windows or
Linux and since when?
L86[08:03:26] <Fluburtur> I want to play
some cities skyline
L87[08:03:49] <Fluburtur> my big city I was
playing before is really laggy and has traffic problems so time to
make a enw one
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L91[08:13:21] <Fluburtur> I only have 87
hours on C:S?
L92[08:13:27] <Fluburtur> feels like
more
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L94[08:15:25] <schnobs> Mat2ch: Linux,
since today(?) and I'm pretty certain it's not a true SSL
problem.
L95[08:16:33] <schnobs> Installing the
newly-released RO 1.3.1 via CKAN, most downloads work but a select
few doesn't.
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L97[08:17:07] <schnobs> Specifically, FAR
and RealChute.
L98[08:23:39] <Mat2ch> schnobs: check your
Mono version. Some distributions still ship Mono 4, but ckan now
needs Mono 5.
L99[08:24:15] <Mat2ch> schnobs: Hah, I ran
into the same problem when installing RSS/RO :)
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L101[08:33:30] <schnobs> Mat2ch: my brand
new, latest, hot-off-the-press Debian apparently ships with mono4.
Dang.
L102[08:34:22] <schnobs> (Still don't get
why it downloads most files but fails a few -- shouldn't all
downloads from github suffer the same problem?)
L103[08:36:00] <ve2dmn> schnobs: define
'fail'
L104[08:36:44] <ve2dmn> Missing file?
Timeout?
L105[08:37:48] <schnobs> ve2dmn: ckan says
"Oh no! Our download failed with a certificate
error!"
L106[08:38:40] <schnobs> Which I find hard
to believe, as it fetched several other files from the same source
(github) just moments before.
L107[08:38:55] <ve2dmn> SSL/TLS issue
then. I vaguely remember something like that a while ago
L108[08:40:16] <ve2dmn> Which version of
CKAN?
L109[08:40:23] <schnobs> A few weeks ago
github enfored TLS 1.2, which CKAN didn't support. That's what gave
us teh most recent CKAN release.
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L111[08:40:44] <ve2dmn> yeah, that's the
thing I was thinking about
L112[08:41:32] <ve2dmn> I guess, find
which file doesn't download and try to curl/wget to find the exact
error message&
L113[08:42:06] <schnobs> ve2dmn: curl
& wget both work.
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L115[08:42:53] <schnobs> If i knew how
CKAN arrives at the number it prepends to every file, I could just
put the files inte the download folder myself.
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L117[08:43:25] <ve2dmn> schnobs: you CAN
install the mod manually, but then CKAN will stop maintaining
it
L118[08:43:51] <schnobs> I know, that's
what I'd like to avoid.
L119[08:45:43] <ve2dmn> seem mono has it
own list in '~/.config/.mono/Trust/'
L120[08:47:00] <schnobs> ve2dmn: I'm
pretty certain it's not actually a SSL error. Either that, or the
nodes in github's CDN don't all have the same certificate.
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L122[08:48:37] <Mat2ch> schnobs: the
github stuff is the problem and you can't get that to trusted with
Mono 4 somehow.
L123[08:48:40] <ve2dmn> yes, but it seems
that Mono, like Firefox, has a different rootCA repository then the
system
L124[08:48:44] <Mat2ch> schnobs: I also
use Debian :D
L125[08:49:16] <schnobs> it's apretty day,
guess I'll go for a walk and try again later.
L126[08:49:27] <ve2dmn> If you're on
Linux, try running (as user): 'mozroots --import
--ask-remove'
L127[08:49:36] <schnobs> Mat2ch: how did
you get mono5?
L128[08:49:37] <ve2dmn> ^ copy-pasted from
a webpage
L129[08:49:45] <Mat2ch> My solution was to
use debootstrap to create a minimal debian system in a directory,
then use schroot to change into that, modify the sources.list there
to get Mono 5 from their repository and then start ckan from the
schroot. Works for me. :D
L130[08:50:06] <Mat2ch> So my main system
doesn't use Mono 5 and is still pure Debian. :)
L131[08:50:29] <ve2dmn> Mat2ch: *sigh* All
these containers tech are giving me a headache
L132[08:50:40] <Mat2ch> ve2dmn: schroot is
just a managed chroot
L133[08:50:51] <schnobs> Mat2ch: sounds
like a mouthful, but I might actually try that.
L134[08:50:58] <Mat2ch> And you can't
argue with that chroot has been there for a looooong time. :D
L135[08:51:08] <ve2dmn> chroot is older
then old
L137[08:51:51] <Mat2ch> After you switch
into it, it's just like a regular Debian system. And you can access
your files in the home directory. But the base system is
different.
L138[08:52:03] <Mat2ch> ve2dmn: see. No
headache. :D
L139[08:52:41] <ve2dmn> It's mostly that
every time I look around, it seems a new thing pop-up
L140[08:53:16] <ve2dmn> When it's not a
virtualEnv it's a docker or VM containement
L141[08:53:44] <ve2dmn> "It's easy,
you just need to 'container-this install image' "
L142[08:53:56] <ve2dmn> Which is great....
until it break
L143[08:55:54] <Mat2ch> schroot is a
Debian thing to build packages within a clean system
L144[08:56:10] <Mat2ch> so you basically
do a deboostrap, schroot in it and try to build your package
L145[08:56:30] <Mat2ch> then you'll see if
you're missing dependencies and stuff.
L146[08:56:39] <ve2dmn> Example: never run
docker with dnsmasq
L147[08:56:46] <Mat2ch> Never run
docker.
L148[08:56:53] <Mat2ch> Use LXC. :D
L149[08:56:57] <ve2dmn> As if I had a
choice
L150[08:57:06] <Mat2ch> lxc!
L151[08:57:12] <Mat2ch> You alawys have a
choice. :P
L152[08:57:53] <ve2dmn> yes, using all
tech is the choice with the less headaches so far
L153[08:59:01] *
ve2dmn is happy we don't live in the old unix days of mostly
incompatible OSes
L154[08:59:07] <Mat2ch> No, you could just
move to a cabin in canada!
L155[08:59:46] <ve2dmn> How would driving
north 2h solve anything?
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L157[09:02:52] <Mat2ch> If you still have
an internet connection there you havn't driving far enough!
L158[09:04:43] <schnobs> If you want to be
isolated from the world at large, I could show you my
basement...
L159[09:05:08] <ve2dmn> Mat2ch: I can
drive very far and still have internet (but no cell phone
service)
L160[09:06:33] <ve2dmn> I think I could
drive 15h north and still have acess to the internet
L161[09:06:55] <ve2dmn> ...but then I
would be out of road
L162[09:07:59] <Fluburtur> I got the new
props I ordered but the hole is too small
L163[09:08:03] <Fluburtur> will have to
drill that
L164[09:13:10] <ve2dmn> ^ I'm sure there
are several joke in there that would be against the rule to
mention
L165[09:16:03] <Deddly> ... and yet you
do
L166[09:16:17] <Deddly> :(
L167[09:16:55] <Deddly> On another
subject... would anyone be interested if I could set up a LMP
server?
L168[09:17:03] <APlayer> LMP?
L169[09:17:11] <Fluburtur> yeah
L170[09:17:20] <Fluburtur> the new ksp
multiplayer mod
L171[09:17:24] <Deddly> Luna Multiplayer
for KSP. It's like a replacement for DMP
L172[09:17:28] <Fluburtur> crashes my game
after two minutes but eh
L173[09:17:42] <APlayer> Oohh, I would
love to try out multiplayer in KSP one day
L174[09:17:42] <Fluburtur> are you on
their discord server?
L175[09:17:50] <APlayer> Not sure how it
works, though
L176[09:17:54] <Deddly> I've not tried it,
I'm just looking to see is there's an interest
L177[09:17:59] <APlayer> Also, I need to
move my stuff to 1.4
L178[09:18:03] <ve2dmn> Deddly: how does
it works?
L179[09:18:05] <Deddly> Fluburtur, I'm on
it right now
L180[09:18:50] <Deddly> ve2dmn, I'm not
sure I understand what you are asking
L181[09:19:29] <ve2dmn> How do time
acceralation and revert works?
L182[09:19:36] <Fluburtur> time
bubbles
L183[09:19:43] <ve2dmn> And can 2 people
control the same craft?
L184[09:19:50] <Fluburtur> nah
L185[09:20:02] <Mat2ch> ve2dmn:
how?!
L186[09:20:09] <Mat2ch> ve2dmn: iridium?
:P
L187[09:20:10] <APlayer> One thing I still
want to try out is a mission control sort of thing
L188[09:20:20] <APlayer> I.e. one has the
controls, the other one has the readouts
L189[09:21:03] <Fluburtur> I did some
dogfight with dmp and bda some time ago
L190[09:21:05] <Fluburtur> was very
fun
L191[09:22:02] <Deddly> LMP supports time
bubbles and timewarp together
L192[09:22:18] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: ugh,
drilling holes in props. It's hard to get the bigger hole centered
right :|
L193[09:22:22] <Deddly> APlayer,
Telemachus supports that, I believe
L194[09:22:35] <ve2dmn> so... only 1
person on the launch pad at any time?
L195[09:22:40] <Fluburtur> I have props
with 3mm holes
L196[09:22:46] <Fluburtur> and I want them
to be 5mm
L197[09:23:01] <Fluburtur> I can use the
press drill for that
L198[09:24:01] <Deddly> ve2dmn, I think it
depends what mode you are playing in
L199[09:24:51] <ve2dmn> I'm trying to
understand how multiplayer would work... and mostly, what happens
in the edge cases
L200[09:25:00] <Fluburtur> players are in
a "safety bubble" at launch
L201[09:25:06] <ve2dmn> like... if you
play career do you get the same $ pool ?
L202[09:25:07] <Fluburtur> get the mod and
try
L203[09:25:59] <APlayer> Is the forum
still updating?
L204[09:29:34] <Fluburtur> man my big city
in C:S lags my whole computer
L205[09:29:41] <Fluburtur> probably
because the traffic is horrible
L206[09:31:06] <ve2dmn> Simcity and C:S
are first and foremost traffic simulators
L207[09:32:18] <Mat2ch> ve2dmn: you still
haven't explained how you get an internet connection in the middle
of nowhere ;)
L208[09:32:26] <Fluburtur> putting bus
lines are boring
L209[09:32:30] <Fluburtur> trains are
best
L210[09:32:37] <ve2dmn> try trams?
L211[09:32:37] <Fluburtur> but my train
traffic is horrible too
L212[09:32:43] <Fluburtur> I don't have
that dlc
L213[09:32:54] <ve2dmn> then it's down to
city planning
L214[09:33:00] <Mat2ch> also: prices for
graphic adapters are dropping and dropping \o/
L215[09:33:07] <Fluburtur> I don't really
plan
L216[09:33:15] <Fluburtur> I expand then
im like "uh"
L218[09:35:06] <Mat2ch> ve2dmn: not remote
enough. :D
L220[09:35:19] <Mat2ch> go somewhere,
where in a 100 km radius is no settlement :P
L221[09:35:39] <ve2dmn> Mat2ch: i'll need
a plane for that
L222[09:35:58] <Mat2ch> or just a
parachute!
L223[09:36:53] <Mat2ch> but that sounds
like a plan. Living the life in the forrest and the only thing you
have to worry about are bears and mosquitos. :P
L224[09:37:31] <ve2dmn> At that point, you
are pretty much near the tree line... you'll have to worry about
more then just wildlife
L225[09:37:36] <Mat2ch> Now, where do I
get a parachute?
L226[09:38:07] <Mat2ch> Why? Enough trees
to burn in winter, but you should bring enough food. :D
L227[09:38:34] <ve2dmn> I guess 'define
winter' would be a better question
L228[09:39:55] <Mat2ch> don't destroy my
dreams!
L229[09:40:50] <ve2dmn> You could also go
1.5h north of Montreal and simply not get cable or DSL
L230[09:42:16] <ve2dmn> Otherwise, I
suggest the hunting/fishing cabins that are only accessible by
planes
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L232[09:50:17] <Mat2ch> sounds like a
plan. Where do I have to sign?
L233[09:57:16] <ve2dmn> Are you a
citizen?
L234[10:00:42] <Mat2ch> No. But I have a
very nice signature!
L235[10:01:56] <Deddly> ve2dmn, LMP career
games apparently chare a common pot of funds
L236[10:02:01] <Deddly> share*
L237[10:03:06] <Mat2ch> well, since funds
are usually not the problem, I guess they gather plenty of science
points very quickly
L238[10:04:40] <UmbralRaptop> ;tell
scolar_visari I appreciate your desire to protect us from hostile
aliens, but is it necessary to repeatedly sterilize Prox Cen b to
surgical standards?
https://arxiv.org/abs/1804.02001
L239[10:04:40] <kmath> UmbralRaptop: I'll
let scolar_visari know when I see them
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L242[10:07:52] <ve2dmn> Although, to get
there, be sure to fill your car/truck tank before heading on the
road to Fermont/Labrador-city
L243[10:08:17] <ve2dmn> There are only a
few gas stations and there are seperated by about 90-100 km (on
average)
L244[10:08:43] <Mat2ch> I'll bring an
extra jerrycan. Maybe two
L245[10:08:53] <ve2dmn> (I know because I
visited the Manic-5 hydro-electric complex)
L246[10:10:06] <Mat2ch> well, one problem:
I don't speak French...
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L249[10:16:01] <ve2dmn> then, bring a
friend who do :P
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L258[10:49:32] <Deddly> Well, a lot of
craft can in KSP
L259[10:49:38] <Deddly> That sideslip
tho
L260[10:50:08] <Fluburtur> yeah but for
some reason it didn't go into a flat spin
L261[10:50:24] <VanDisaster> reaction
wheels?
L262[10:50:34] <Fluburtur> I don't think
that would be enough
L263[10:50:57] <VanDisaster> disable 'em
& then try it :p
L264[10:52:00] <Fluburtur> I had planes
with ejectable wings
L265[10:52:07] <Fluburtur> no time for a
plane with ejectable tail
L266[10:52:14] <Fluburtur> now*
L267[10:55:33] <ve2dmn> with enough power,
you can fly with just the engine
L268[10:58:29] <Fluburtur> yeah it is
stable with no tail and no reaction wheels
L269[10:58:39] <Fluburtur> and can recover
from severe sideslip easily
L270[10:58:58] <Fluburtur> what is the
point of trying to make tailless flying wing if I can just break
off the tail of a regular plane
L271[10:59:13] <ve2dmn> if you cut out the
power... what happens?
L272[10:59:53] <Fluburtur> still
stable
L273[11:00:43] <Fluburtur> actually under
70m/s it starts going into a spin then the motors can't
restart
L274[11:02:50] <Fluburtur> it does have a
lot of yaw wag
L275[11:06:43] <Fluburtur> might be
because of the body lift
L277[11:13:00] <Mat2ch> you need
stabilization rockets on it.
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L279[11:16:11] <Fluburtur> the aircraft is
balanced without the tail
L280[11:16:22] <Fluburtur> and I can make
it go into a spin if I turn it the correct way
L281[11:19:01] <ve2dmn> can you do
looping?
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L283[11:19:11] <Fluburtur> yeah
L284[11:19:29] <Fluburtur> pitch authority
is bad because extremely short coupled but better than some of my
designs
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L290[12:19:17] <Draconiator> Woooo tested
my setup I want for my netbook on a virtual machine...ended up
being PERFECT for that thing. 8GB SSD card, with Xubuntu installed.
3.3GB left over.
L291[12:20:05] <Deddly> Xubuntu is pretty
good for keeping a small footprint
L292[12:20:38] <Deddly> Of course, you
could go for something completely different ;)
L293[12:21:41] <SnoopJeDi> I like Lubuntu,
too
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L297[12:32:49] <UmbralRaptop> i3!
L299[12:37:35] <Deddly> Oh BeOS, now
there's a blast from the past
L300[12:40:09] <VanDisaster> nextstep,
there's a blast from further past
L301[12:40:11] <SnoopJeDi> it's gonna
change everything Deddly :)
L302[12:40:14] <ve2dmn> There's also
SyllableOS, ReactOS, MorphOS...
L303[12:42:21] <UmbralRaptop> Will they
have a PalmOS?
L304[12:42:41] <Draconiator> They
do.
L305[12:42:56] <Draconiator> Usually used
in those old Palm Pilots
L306[12:42:57] <ve2dmn> ...MenuetOS,
Menuet64, KolibriOS...
L307[12:43:18] <Draconiator> I think we
broke ve2 lol
L308[12:45:43] <ve2dmn> Software failiure.
Guru Meditatio 0x00000042
L309[12:46:10] <Deddly> Best error message
ever
L310[12:46:45] <Draconiator> I like you
dude...even though you crashed....but how do we reboot you without
getting too personal?
L313[12:49:27] <ve2dmn> Keyboard error.
Press F1 to continue.
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L315[12:50:40] <Fluburtur> "While
modern inkjet and laser printers are nowhere near as spontaneously
flammable as their mainframe ancestors"
L316[12:50:45] <Fluburtur> why is
that
L317[12:50:55] <Fluburtur> that's clearly
a design flaw
L318[12:51:25] <Deddly> They stopped using
Kerbal labour in the factories
L319[12:51:42] <VanDisaster> should
definitely be a thing for 3d printers
L320[12:53:03] <Fluburtur> well 3d
printers sometimes catch fire
L321[12:53:21] <Deddly> Oh wow, someone
actually made 3D-printed rocket fuel
L322[12:53:38] <Fluburtur> PLA plastique
is a bit flamable
L323[12:53:42] <VanDisaster> sounds
perfectly safe
L324[12:53:45] <Fluburtur> but not
enough
L325[12:54:17] <UmbralRaptop> I guess you
can extrude rocket candy or the like?
L326[12:54:29] <VanDisaster> hmm
L327[12:54:32] <Fluburtur> too hard
L328[12:54:36] <VanDisaster> a rocket
sausage machine
L329[12:54:46] <Fluburtur> probably some
rubbery fuel
L330[12:54:57] <UmbralRaptop> Slower than
casting, but should allow for more control in shape/burn
profile?
L331[12:55:26] <Fluburtur> but 3d printing
isn't only fusion deposition
L332[12:55:28] <ve2dmn> can you make the
rocket out of fuel itself?
L333[12:55:32] <Fluburtur> could be laser
melting dust
L334[12:55:48] <Fluburtur> like how they
make 3d printed metal parts
L335[12:55:54] <VanDisaster> that would be
an interesting aerodynamic problem
L336[12:56:08] <VanDisaster>
"stabilise a self-consuming rocket"
L337[12:56:50] <ve2dmn> sounds like a job
for Cave Johnson.
L338[12:57:05] <Fluburtur> the more simple
rocket candy rockets are actually made like that
L339[12:57:09] <Fluburtur> no casing
L340[12:57:12] <ve2dmn> "we fire the
whole rocket! That's right, our rockets are 100% made of
fuel!"
L341[12:57:25] <Deddly> I thought about
that a while ago. Use nitrogen oxide and a PVC pipe = the rocket is
the fuel. But yeah... I can't imagine a way to make that useful
since it's all about the nozzle
L342[12:57:29] <Fluburtur> wouldn't that
give infinite dv?
L343[12:57:34] <Fluburtur> since the empty
mass is zero
L344[12:57:53] <Deddly> Only with infinite
fuel
L345[12:57:59] <VanDisaster> yes, but the
empty thrust is also zero :P
L346[12:58:11] <ve2dmn> Fluburtur: you can
push NULL to infinity, yes
L347[13:00:02] <schnobs> NOTHING goes
SOMEWHERE, quickly.
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L349[13:00:48] <ve2dmn> schnobs:
mathematically, it's already there!
L350[13:01:55] <schnobs> ve2dmn: you can't
get from A to B any faster than c, so it might still take a
while.
L351[13:02:23] <Fluburtur> virtual points
have no speed limit
L352[13:02:27] <ve2dmn> ^
L353[13:04:38] <ve2dmn> you can move a dot
from a laser pointer faster then the speed of light, but the light
itself never moved faster than c
L354[13:11:17] <schnobs> ...ok...
L355[13:15:24] <ve2dmn> think about
it
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L358[13:22:22] <Deddly> I have difficulty
seeing how the dot would not move faster than c, because the light
still needs to get there from the laser aperture.
L359[13:23:23] <ve2dmn> Deddly: see it
this way, I can cover 180 degrees of the sky under 1 sec with a
laser pointer...
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L361[13:24:04] <Deddly> ve2dmn, yes, but
the actual dot cannot get there, can it?
L362[13:24:24] <ve2dmn> it does... just
very, very, very, very faint
L363[13:24:29] <Deddly> The beam as
visible to you, sure
L364[13:25:16] <Deddly> Let's say you have
an unrealistic laser with no beam divergence
L365[13:25:44] <Deddly> And you have two
observers on two extremes of the visible moon
L366[13:26:35] <ve2dmn> (or jupiter, since
it's 140000 km across... almost half a second-light
L367[13:26:39] <ve2dmn> )
L368[13:26:44] <Deddly> If you quickly
flick the beam across the moon, will the second observer really see
the dot quicker than the speed of c from the first observation
point?
L369[13:27:19] <Deddly> It takes time for
the dot to get there, right?
L370[13:27:32] <ve2dmn> the light is
moving at c
L371[13:27:34] <Deddly> at the speed of c
from your laser
L372[13:28:13] <ve2dmn> but I can
illuminate 1 pole of a planet and move to the under pole under
100ms
L373[13:28:24] <ve2dmn> for me it's just a
few degrees
L374[13:28:41] <Deddly> But the actual dot
has to get there from the laser
L375[13:28:45] <Deddly> at the speed of
c
L376[13:28:51] <ve2dmn> it's like shaking
a water hose..
L377[13:29:14] <ve2dmn> the light will
continue in a straigh line
L378[13:29:55] <Deddly> Shake a water hose
and you'll see a visible bend in the "beam". Will not the
same thing happen with your laser beam?
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L380[13:32:44] <ve2dmn> probably...
L381[13:33:09] <ve2dmn> but in the case of
the hose, the place where the water 'hits' the ground would be your
'dot'
L382[13:33:13] <Deddly> That being the
case, the end of the beam lags behind where you are pointing
it
L383[13:33:30] <ve2dmn> yup, because
c
L384[13:34:09] <Deddly> Point the hose to
one side of the garden, flick the hose to the other side of the
garden - the "dot" must wait until the water gets
there
L385[13:34:19] <ve2dmn> exactly
L386[13:35:08] <Deddly> Point the laser to
one side of Jupiter, flick the laser to the other side of Jupiter -
the "dot" must wait until the light gets there
L387[13:36:03] <ve2dmn> if I rotate 180
degrees under 1 sec, how fast would the 'image' of laser (that dot)
move on the surface of jupiter?
L388[13:36:38] <ve2dmn> The dot, or image,
is simple a reflection. It, itself, does not 'move' because it is
not a thing by itself
L390[13:37:10] <SnoopJeDi> also see
superluminal scissors but that one is just bad recognition of
assumptions (infinite rigidity)
L391[13:37:20] <Deddly> ve2dmn, it
suddenly clicked for me
L392[13:37:36] <SnoopJeDi> tl;dr the
dot/shadow/whatever can move at faster than c, but the information
doesn't so causality isn't violated
L393[13:37:42] <Deddly> Also, thanks for
the link, SnoopJeDi
L394[13:37:42] <ve2dmn> ^
L395[13:38:09] <ve2dmn> So yeah, virtual
things can move faster then c :D
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L397[13:38:49] <SnoopJeDi> it's sorta
equivalent to the group/phase velocity thing that always confuses
lousy popsci journos every couple of months
L398[13:38:50] <Deddly> Just like the
"dot" on the hose can move faster than the speed of the
water flowing.
L399[13:39:08] <Deddly> the
"bend" is irrelevant
L400[13:39:15] <Deddly> I got it. Thanks
for your patience :)
L401[13:40:43] <ve2dmn> nah, it's fine.
Those things are hard to understand
L402[13:44:01] <ve2dmn> Deddly: it's like
an xkcd What-if
L403[13:44:55] <ve2dmn> and btw, someone
did the full math for the nerd snipping xkcd
L404[13:46:31] <ve2dmn> I think the final
answer was something like 1/2R
L405[13:49:16] <SnoopJeDi> all we need now
is for some pretentious jerk to come along and point out that of
course that's the obvious answer
L406[13:49:48] <Deddly> Well, duh
L407[13:51:37] <SnoopJeDi> I put some
lines in my vimrc that mark the words "clearly" and
"obviously" in bright red, so that I never use them in
prose.
L408[13:52:42] <Deddly> :)
L410[13:53:27] <kmath> YouTube - Jet
Engine made on a 3D Printer
L411[13:53:55] <Deddly> I'm on the
internet, I spend my time avoiding them ;)
L412[13:55:23] <Fluburtur> now that I have
a 3d printer I could try building an EDF unit
L413[13:55:28] <Fluburtur> that can only
go wrong
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L415[13:58:24] <ve2dmn> "Never read
the comments"
L416[13:58:31] <ve2dmn> I learned that
lesson the hard way
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L421[14:11:03] <Deddly> ve2dmn, see that's
why the comments are a cesspool, because the people who are capable
of learning avoid them like the plague after a short time.
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L424[14:12:25] <kmath> YouTube - Don't
Feed the Trolls
L425[14:13:07] <Deddly> "This cideo
is not available" lol. Very apt
L426[14:13:12] <Deddly> video*
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L429[14:37:11] <Draconiator>
<Fluburtur> now that I have a 3d printer I could try building
an EDF unit - Earth Defense Force unit? Technology is increasing
and if you do that you'll be ahead of everyone else for when
computers take over.
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L431[14:37:50] <Fluburtur> well I was
thinking more like the EDF units we use in rc stuff vut I guess I
could do that too
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L434[14:42:20] <ve2dmn> I, for one,
welcome our new computer overlords
L435[14:43:07] <APlayer> Deddly: The dot
would experience a delay in moving from one pole to the other, but
the time it spends between beginning and finishing the movement
will be equivalent to the time it take you to rotate the
laser
L436[14:43:55] <Deddly> Yes, thank you
APlayer, I got it now ;)
L437[14:44:18] <Mod9000> I also welcome
the computer overlords
L438[14:44:29] *
ve2dmn get a flashback from the end of Portal2
L439[14:44:47] <APlayer> I should have
read the whole conversation before writing that, heh
L440[14:45:03] *
Mod9000 promotes ve2dmn to Chief Lackey
L441[14:45:05] <APlayer> XPR, I'd
say
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L446[14:48:44] <ve2dmn> (and not the space
core quote thing either)
L447[14:49:33] <Draconiator> I found my
copy of Freelancer last night...funny thing is I looked ALL OVER
for it. Ended up being in the CD drive of my old computer.
L448[14:50:36] <APlayer> Hehe
L449[14:50:57] <APlayer> That's not
extreme, though
L450[14:51:36] <APlayer> Imagine looking
for your slippers... and finding them... in the fridge. Yes.
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L452[14:52:05] <APlayer> Actual story that
happened to a family member a few years ago.
L453[14:52:08] <oren> I once found my
nintendo DS in the freezer
L454[14:52:15] <ve2dmn> Draconiator: that
was a good game... any modern equivalent?
L455[14:52:22] <oren> it had been in there
for probably years
L456[14:52:40] <APlayer> oren: Has the
lead soldering crumbled?
L457[14:53:15] <oren> APlayer: it doesn't
work, not sure what precisely is wrong with it, I had switched to
3ds
L458[14:53:38] <oren> hence why I didn't
look for it for so long
L459[14:53:54] <ve2dmn> oren: did you find
a game in it?
L460[14:54:05] <APlayer> Perhaps is was
not broken because it was in the freezer, but it was in the freezer
because it was broken?
L461[14:54:13] <oren> APlayer: good
point
L462[14:54:33] <ve2dmn> APlayer: my dad
used to put watches in the freezer
L463[14:54:37] <oren> ve2dmn: no, I
generally don't keep games in systems when Im not using them
L464[14:55:37] <ve2dmn> The alarm would go
off at 4 in the morning and rather then try to find how to turn it
off, he would put it in the freezer
L465[14:57:10] <schnobs> Hmmm. I wonder if
I should set up a proxy to intercept connections to github and
downgrade them to a protocol CKAN understands.
L466[14:57:34] <schnobs> Or just install
FAR manually...
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L471[15:01:21] <Mat2ch> !op
L472[15:01:26] <ve2dmn> APlayer?
L473[15:01:27] <Fluburtur> APlayer your
time to shine
L474[15:01:45] <APlayer> I hope this was
the right command?
L475[15:01:52] ***
blinky was kicked by APlayer (blinky))
L476[15:02:46] <APlayer> Deddly,
UmbralRaptor ^ please correct the ban if I banned too little or too
much
L477[15:03:04] <Deddly> Ugh
L478[15:03:40] <ve2dmn> APlayer: you just
blocked the whole town of Krasnodar, Russia
L479[15:03:45] <ve2dmn> (kidding)
L480[15:03:54] <APlayer> I was about to
start howling
L481[15:04:31] <UmbralRaptop> Probably a
bit much for a longterm ban.
L482[15:04:56] <Fluburtur> how long was it
since the last allah is doing?
L484[15:05:07] <ve2dmn> UmbralRaptop:
well... 3 violations in under 2 sec
L485[15:05:31] <UmbralRaptop> Fluburtur:
Ban!
L486[15:06:05] <schnobs> Draconiator:
possible problem I see is that it might only work at noon.
L487[15:06:14] <APlayer> UmbralRaptop: I'd
appreciate if you could correct it, because I have no idea how to
use this properly
L488[15:06:24] <schnobs> (dunno how much
power you generate & need)
L489[15:06:55] <UmbralRaptop> ve2dmn: I
mean, I think banning a /24 is a lot?
L490[15:07:16] <schnobs> Draconiator:
also, solar panels become less efficient when hot. So you might
have less juice than you think, even on sunny Eve.
L491[15:07:29] <ve2dmn> 255 adresses?
maybe a bit, yes
L492[15:07:46] *
UmbralRaptop had to double check how CIDR worked.
>_>;;
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L494[15:09:09] <ve2dmn> UmbralRaptop: try
ipcalc
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L496[15:09:30] <UmbralRaptop> Hrm, lots of
channels. Poke Hikaru, mr_flea, or the like about a network
ban?
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*!*@95.153.134.*
L498[15:15:31] <APlayer> Alright
L499[15:17:48] <mr_flea> UmbralRaptop:
looks like mbaxter already got him... he's very sneaky
L500[15:17:50] <mr_flea> thanks for the
heads-up
L501[15:18:52] <UmbralRaptop> yay
L502[15:25:21] <ve2dmn> UmbralRaptop: if
you are on linux try 'ipcalc 192.168.1.0'
L503[15:25:28] <ve2dmn> it has pretty
colours
L504[15:29:19] <SnoopJeDi> TIL
ipcalc
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L514[15:44:32] <Kalpa> Hey it's
Raptop
L515[15:45:49] <montezuma> Hi, I need help
with KSP after the original load up it crashes and I dont know why?
I have no mods and have reinstalled multiple times. Can you help
me?
L516[15:46:18] <UmbralRaptop> Greetings,
sword.
L517[15:46:34] <Kalpa> I bow before thy
knowledge.
L518[15:46:36] <UmbralRaptop> montezuma:
maybe. Uh, steam or store?
L519[15:46:45] <montezuma> steam
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L521[15:47:33] <UmbralRaptop> Okay,
steam's not always good about uninstalling things, did you delete
everything in that folder?
L522[15:48:36] <montezuma> no i
uninstalled through steam, ill try it manually.
L523[15:49:52] *
UmbralRaptop hopes that it's something silly steam did with the
1.4.x releases, because next would probably involve poking at
drivers. >_>;;
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L525[15:56:31] <SnoopJeDi> ta ve2dmn
L526[15:57:19] <montezuma> ITS ALIVE!!!!
Thank you for all your help!
L527[15:58:47] <UmbralRaptop> \o/
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L532[16:12:19] <Draconiator> hmm, become
quite adept at the sudo command in Linux.
L533[16:13:11] <schnobs> don't like it too
much. Either be root, or don't.
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L535[16:16:45] <schnobs> ve2dmn, Mat2ch:
regarding my CKAN issue from earlier today...
L536[16:18:15] <schnobs> Issue itself is
still unresolved, but today I learned that ckan can digest &
install zipfiles it didn't download itself.
L537[16:19:00] <schnobs> File -> Import
downloaded mods...
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L544[17:02:11] <Mat2ch> schnobs: that
sounds like an ugly hack. ;)
L545[17:02:15] <Mat2ch> Well, not really
:)
L546[17:06:07] <Fluburtur> idk what to
do
L547[17:06:11] <Fluburtur> let's watch
cartoons then
L548[17:09:14] <AdmJackieSpiz> getting all
sorts of confusing results for low thrust boosts from LEO to
Molniya
L549[17:09:23] <AdmJackieSpiz> apparently
at low thrusts its higher delta-V than GEO? o.O
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L553[17:17:27] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: get
some sleep?
L554[17:17:43] <Fluburtur> cartoons
first
L555[17:18:54] <Mat2ch> Priorities are
important. :D
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L557[17:32:34] <Draconiator> thinking of
how I can make a solar Eve flyer....scrapped 2 designs so
far.
L558[17:36:24] <Fluburtur> I could send
you one of my planes
L559[17:36:28] <Fluburtur> then you can
modify it
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L570[18:05:55] <Draconiator> Well this is
a suprise....the dang thing flies on Duna. needs quite a bit of
ground to take off though....
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L579[18:47:14] <Supernovy> Evening,
Gentlemen.
L580[18:55:12] <ve2dmn> Supernovy:
morning, gentlewomen
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L582[19:01:34] <Kalpa> Good evening.
L583[19:07:09] <UmbralRaptop>
$time_of_day, enbies.
L584[19:07:55] <UmbralRaptop> Supernovy:
M-dwarfs are evil, and want you to suffer. Especially anything
later than M2V.
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L594[20:20:21] <ve2dmn> Draconiator: now
make it fly on the Mun on electricity only
L595[20:20:30] <ve2dmn> (is that even
remotly possible?)
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L597[20:20:46] <Guest28453> what is
this?
L598[20:20:52] <ve2dmn> IRC
L599[20:20:57] <Guest28453> for what
L600[20:20:58] <ve2dmn> IRC, it is
L601[20:21:09] <ve2dmn> For Kerbal Space
Program
L602[20:21:14] <Guest28453> wats that
XD
L604[20:22:06] *
UmbralRaptop sighs
L605[20:22:11] <Guest28453> coolio
L606[20:22:38] <ve2dmn> UmbralRaptop: told
you that being in this month Humble Monthly would bring more
guest...
L607[20:23:01] <Guest28453> ?
L608[20:23:19] <UmbralRaptop> ve2dmn:
This, uh, doesn't fit the pattern.
L609[20:23:23] <ve2dmn> KSP is in this
Month' Humble Bundle Monthly
L610[20:23:31] <ve2dmn> UmbralRaptop: I
can... um.... see that
L611[20:23:54] <Guest28453> i stumbled
upon this becuase of me reaserching galileo's planey for history :P
XD
L612[20:24:03] <Guest28453> researching
~
L614[20:25:11] <UmbralRaptop> Guest28453:
as in his discovery of Jupiter's moons?
L615[20:25:42] <Guest28453> -shrugs
L616[20:25:57] <Guest28453> something
about science redefines the universe
L617[20:26:00] <Guest28453> thats the
topic
L619[20:26:39] <ve2dmn> It's full of ideas
on that very idea
L620[20:26:54] <Guest28453> and had to
research ptolamaic system, coppernican theory, keplers change,
newtons gravity
L621[20:26:55] <ve2dmn> (it's stuff from
the royal society in London)
L622[20:27:23] <UmbralRaptop> I'd be
tempted to suggest James Burke's "The Day The Universe
Changed" or "Connections" series, though both are
somewhat dated.
L624[20:27:51] <kmath> YouTube - Newton's
Telescope and Hubble - Objectivity #16
L625[20:28:10] <Guest28453> this is a nice
community
L626[20:28:23] <Guest28453> i might even
check out the game XD lmao
L627[20:28:28] <Guest28453> i might even
check out the game XD
L628[20:28:31] <Guest28453> ooh
L629[20:28:43] <Guest28453> i thought i
was editing a message :P
L630[20:28:58] <UmbralRaptop> It's a neat
game that can teach you a rediculous amount of orbital
mechanics.
L631[20:29:01] <ve2dmn> When you see how
primitive and crude Newton's telescope was... yet it served him
well
L632[20:29:37] <Guest28453> im not really
into space tho unless you count doctor who :P
L633[20:29:38] <ve2dmn> Guest28453: it
involves lots of exploding rockets, because space is HARD
L634[20:30:10] <Guest28453> or steven
universe
L635[20:30:17] <Azander> but that is what
makes it fun!
L636[20:30:18] <ve2dmn> UmbralRaptop: btw,
have you seen the video about the Royal Society's book?
L637[20:30:27] <UmbralRaptop> I have
not.
L638[20:31:05] <Guest28453> how
"Technical" is the game
L639[20:31:18] <Guest28453> as in
L640[20:31:23] <Guest28453> in game
softwar
L641[20:31:28] <ve2dmn> Periodic Videos :
The world's greatest autograph book
L643[20:31:35] <kmath> YouTube - The
world's greatest autograph book
L644[20:31:41] <UmbralRaptop> ve2dmn:
hah
L645[20:31:58] <Guest28453> and when u say
mechanics what type of mechanics ve2dmn
L646[20:32:26] <ve2dmn> How orbits and
satelittes work
L647[20:32:32] <ve2dmn> Orbital
mechanics
L648[20:32:54] <Guest28453> i undertand
that
L649[20:33:03] <Guest28453>
understand
L650[20:33:04] <Guest28453> that
L651[20:33:14] <Guest28453> but what do u
do exactly in the game
L652[20:33:22] <ve2dmn> you design and
test rockets
L653[20:33:34] <ve2dmn> You 'try' to make
it to the Mun in one piece
L654[20:33:45] <Guest28453> lol
L655[20:33:55] <ve2dmn> then you fail...
and try again... and again... and again
L656[20:34:17] <ve2dmn> And then you make
it!!!.... but you can't get back
L657[20:34:18] <Guest28453> does it have
aerodynamics and STUFF
L658[20:34:33] <UmbralRaptop> Build
rockets, fly them, gather data, establish bases (space stations and
or planetary), deploy satellites,…
L659[20:34:58] <ve2dmn> You can design
spaceplanes, yes :D
L660[20:35:11] <UmbralRaptop> Stock
aerodynamics are somewhat simplified, but there's a mod to make
them more realistic.
L661[20:35:31] <ve2dmn> 'a mod'... such an
understatement
L662[20:35:43] <Guest28453> seems like a
game i would buy
L663[20:35:51] <Guest28453> play for about
2 weeks
L664[20:36:00] <ve2dmn> it's also very
silly
L665[20:36:08] <Guest28453> and it trigger
my bipolar and i throw my pc tower accross the room
L666[20:36:15] <Guest28453> silly?
L667[20:36:43] <ve2dmn> well... the
kerbals themselves are not very bright...
L668[20:37:01] <UmbralRaptop> The kerbals
(the game's protagonists) are oddly cute. And some will laugh in
the face of certain death.
L669[20:37:25] <ve2dmn> so even if the
simulation is very precise (well... as much as it can be) it
doesn't take itself TOO seriously
L670[20:37:41] <ve2dmn> There's a whole
solar system to explore
L671[20:37:58] <ve2dmn> And there...
probably a few thousand mods
L672[20:38:28] <UmbralRaptop> The default
settings, while they have realistic physics, are intentionally
forgiving.
L673[20:39:00] <UmbralRaptop> So you can
recover from messing up a mission, or deploy a rescue team.
L674[20:39:00] <Guest28453> seems
cool
L675[20:39:15] <Guest28453> but its not
really a game for me
L676[20:39:32] <ve2dmn> Fair
L677[20:40:11] <ve2dmn> I mean... I only
played KSP for 1300h according to steam and I'm not playing right
now
L678[20:40:15] <Guest28453> im in
higschool and i dont have tim
L679[20:40:25] <Guest28453> for video
games
L680[20:40:38] <ve2dmn> ... if only you
knew
L681[20:40:55] <Guest28453> damn my
grammar is horrible when i type
L682[20:41:04] <ConductorCat> Most
importantly the Kerbals are forgiving.
L683[20:41:06] <UmbralRaptop> Well, it
could be one of those intense schools.
L684[20:41:17] <UmbralRaptop>
ConductorCat: :D
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L686[20:43:58] <Guest28453> wanna know
whats the worse about being bi?
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L688[20:44:26] <UmbralRaptop> uh, this
might not be a good channel to discuss thsg
L689[20:44:29] <ve2dmn> bipolar?
L690[20:44:38] <UmbralRaptop>
hopefully
L691[20:45:05] <Guest28453> no, liking a
guy whos super cute <3, but is str8 ;-;
L692[20:45:38] ***
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L693[20:46:08] <Umer> is there some sort
of login, or is it done by up iP?
L694[20:46:47] <Azander> see /msg nickserv
help register
L695[20:48:01] <Umer> should i run the
register cmd here? or does it stay private
L696[20:49:04] <Umer> /msg NickServ
REGISTER umyazno1 umerayazdani@gmail.com
L697[20:49:11] <Umer> RIP XD XD XD XD XD
XD
L698[20:49:18] <ve2dmn> rip indeed
L699[20:49:27] <Umer> time for a new
pas
L700[20:49:37] <ve2dmn> yes
L701[20:49:51] <Umer> there we g
L703[20:50:11] <Umer> also ye thats the
worse feeling ever
L704[20:50:19] <Umer> ve2dmn
L705[20:50:30] <ve2dmn> Welcome to
IRC
L706[20:50:47] <Umer> Thnx
L707[20:50:47] <ve2dmn> The very first
chat protocol, ever
L708[20:52:11] <UmbralRaptop> And by
first, we mean 1980s. It's managed to survive am absurd amount of
stuff.
L709[20:52:50] <ve2dmn> UmbralRaptop:
(insert revelant xkcd)
L710[20:53:37] <UmbralRaptop> Well, yes.
But with the death of AIM and gtalk…
L711[20:53:49] <Umer> especially when you
thought said person was gay, but they turned out to be str8 and
they are really supper cute , and there a unique person with the
perfect personallity and go to ask them out they are grossed out
and block you on snapchat and avvoid u irl
L712[20:53:58] <Umer> ;-; -sob
L713[20:55:26] <Umer> -awkard
silence
L714[20:56:38] <Supercheese> jeez, CKAN
crashes *way* too often
L715[20:57:04] <Umer> gtg
L716[20:57:09] <ve2dmn> Supercheese:
define crash
L717[20:57:44] <Supercheese> calling the
goold old werfault.exe and the "blah.exe has stopped
working" kind of crash
L718[20:58:25] <Supercheese> and I'm
afraid fixing it is not so simple as adding moar boosters...
L719[21:05:56] <Blaank> ckan.exe or
ksp.exe after loading from ckan?
L720[21:07:59] <Supercheese> ckan, it
seems to have been a bug with one mod's versioning file
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L743[22:32:50] <Tortoise767> Is there a
mod where I can hear cheering and clapping when I launch from
KSC?
L744[22:33:00] <Tortoise767> as if an
audience were watching
L745[22:34:15] <TheKosmonaut> Tortoise767:
none that I know of
L746[22:35:35] <Tortoise767> ah ok
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L748[22:47:06] <cycloptivity> Tortoise767
I only hear screams of terror for each launch from KSC
L749[22:47:19] <cycloptivity> If your not,
I think your doing it wrong. less struts is more
L750[22:49:57] <UmbralRaptop>
cycloptivity: please stop dropping boosters on the visitor's
center.
L751[23:04:42] <Supercheese> ♪♫Rovin'
'round the Mün, yeah, rovin' all around. / You cannot turn too
hard, else you'll soon be upside-down ♪♫
L752[23:06:28] <Supercheese> wonderin
whether I should mess with the traction control or whatnot
L753[23:10:49] <Supercheese> crap crap
crap
L754[23:10:55] *
Supercheese sighs
L755[23:11:04] <Supercheese> thank God for
autosave...
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L758[23:33:06] <Draconiator> ♪♫
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