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L6[00:43:39] <taniwha> https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/54284-el/&do=findComment&comment=3347604
L7[00:46:06] <Althego> congratulations
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L9[00:47:42] <Supernovy> Hey, it's my favourite mod; EPL.
L10[00:47:49] <Althego> hehehe
L11[00:49:44] <taniwha> thanks
L12[00:49:59] <Althego> "and dont call me shirley"
L13[00:50:23] <Althego> or did you give up on the acronym fight?
L14[00:50:31] <TheKosmonaut> Supernovy: the proper abbreviation is ExPlLp
L15[00:50:42] <Althego> lol
L16[00:51:19] <Supernovy> Extraplap!
L17[00:51:43] <Althego> even better
L18[00:52:16] <taniwha> Althego: no, just against Supernovy
L19[00:52:38] * taniwha glares at TheKosmonaut
L20[00:52:48] <TheKosmonaut> taniwha: sorry
L21[00:52:54] <taniwha> :)
L22[00:52:56] <TheKosmonaut> E-PLP
L23[00:53:04] <taniwha> heh
L24[00:53:08] <TheKosmonaut> Extra-Planetary Launch Pads
L25[00:53:18] <Althego> rename it
L26[00:54:42] <Supernovy> ePlanLauP
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L28[00:56:02] <KrazyKrl> Exanetarauchpads
L29[00:57:55] <Supernovy> XPTLCHP
L30[00:59:11] <KrazyKrl> XRockPads
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L32[01:14:16] <KrazyKrl> Required Dependency: Kerbal Sunglasses
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L34[01:17:00] <Althego> deal with it sunglasses?
L35[01:18:30] <KrazyKrl> Just regular cheap plastic 5-pointed-star sunglasses.
L36[01:18:55] <KrazyKrl> Oh... and "Leg day is every day" legs so your XRockPads can walk upon the landscape.
L37[01:19:35] <Althego> at least squad mentioned that they are fixing the exploding landing legs and the wrong size on the biggest fairing
L38[01:20:38] <KrazyKrl> wat... weren't exploding legs a thing like 5 years ago?
L39[01:20:47] <Althego> they are now :)
L40[01:21:40] <Althego> so 1.4.3 (and making history is coming)
L41[01:21:54] <Althego> too bad we never got 1.2.3
L42[01:27:04] <Althego> insight is coming up, less than a month
L43[01:28:09] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxWjLmPeERs
L44[01:28:09] <kmath> YouTube - NASA Mars InSight Lander: Ready to Study the Heart of Mars
L45[01:37:06] <KrazyKrl> But what if mars is actually in the cold robotic shell of a dragoon?
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L48[01:57:10] <Althego> heh the landing site of insight is a bit north of curiosity, so they will have to share orbiter time for transmissions
L49[01:57:27] <Althego> that will be hard on the curiosity people
L50[01:57:35] <Althego> especially during the deployment phase
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L64[03:05:34] <Daz> watching a stream with a brand new ksp player trying to get to the mun, I like these kinds of streams :D
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L67[03:22:56] <Althego> hehe
L68[03:23:12] <Althego> not so long ago i guided one through a stream to land and coem back
L69[03:23:16] <Daz> lol these ICBM style rockets :D
L70[03:23:30] <Daz> am I allowed to link to a stream in here?
L71[03:23:35] <Althego> yes
L72[03:23:44] <Daz> then this guy is hella fun right now https://www.twitch.tv/lord_v1le
L73[03:23:45] <Daz> imo
L74[03:35:39] <Gasher> i'm irritated that i can't scroll it to fun part
L75[03:35:58] <Althego> the problem with live
L76[03:36:14] <Althego> and as usual ksp is like 90% messing around in the hangar
L77[03:36:25] <Althego> which is boring for someone not doing it
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L81[03:46:06] <Gasher> yeah that
L82[03:51:39] <Althego> why doesnt the mars 2020 rover have a name?
L83[03:54:58] <Gasher> why should it?
L84[03:55:24] <Althego> because it is only 2 years until its launch, normally they are already named at this point
L85[03:55:55] <Althego> also it is stupid to have a lot of articles about it and refer to it with a temporary name
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L90[04:23:54] <Althego> lot better with music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVETvuGsv-w
L91[04:23:55] <kmath> YouTube - Elevating Unity - Episode 4: First Rocket-Powered Flight
L92[04:24:58] <nar10z> HELLO, guys, i have question: "how to switch the space center in career?". I bought DLC
L93[04:25:59] <Althego> as in sandbox. either from the escape menu, or from the menu hidden at the altimeter
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L96[04:28:35] <nar10z> I'll try searching for it now
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L107[05:01:22] <Mat2ch> Althego: /o\ who's counseling those people? This is awful.
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L109[05:01:46] <Althego> what
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L111[05:02:20] <Mat2ch> the video
L112[05:03:04] <Althego> i dont know what they talk about in the beginning, i just clicked in it for the actual flight
L113[05:03:27] <Althego> also note the aactual curvature of earth is visible, although it was only 80k feet
L114[05:03:29] <Mat2ch> the music, the cutting, it's awful
L115[05:03:43] <Althego> well, the previous one was just footage without sound
L116[05:04:43] <marcus> Althego: I wish Squad would use semantic versioning
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L118[05:06:46] <marcus> That way modders could say "this version of the mod works with KSP ^1.4.2"
L119[05:07:19] <Althego> and thety cant now?
L120[05:08:13] <marcus> More often than not, minor (major.minor.patch) versions break tons of mods
L121[05:08:28] <Althego> so the problem is they use them incorrectly
L122[05:08:43] <Althego> usually the patch didnt do anything for mods
L123[05:08:46] <marcus> No, the problem is they don't use semantic versioning :P
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L125[05:09:25] <marcus> I understand why they're hesitant though, because breaking backward compability would require a major version increase
L126[05:09:47] <marcus> And people would expect "big" changes with an update to KSP 2.0, 3.0 etc.
L127[05:09:53] <Althego> hehe
L128[05:09:54] <Althego> true
L129[05:10:13] <Althego> ksp 2.0 with unreal engine and multi body physics :)
L130[05:10:36] <marcus> And it's also an MMO
L131[05:10:42] <Althego> hehe
L132[05:10:45] <marcus> no time warp, but warp drives
L133[05:10:54] <marcus> Also it's now called EVE Online
L134[05:11:03] <marcus> with excel support
L135[05:11:42] <Althego> is still want combinable and splittable windows in windows like the ones eve has
L136[05:11:51] <Althego> ok, firefox can do that with itself, but nothing else
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L138[05:13:04] <Althego> captain on the bride :)
L139[05:15:15] <marcus> 7o
L140[05:17:18] <Mat2ch> Althego: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McByJeX2evM that's how a good show is cut and supported with music these days...
L141[05:22:17] <Althego> sorry i dont know anything about art
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L150[06:01:53] <Fluburtur> https://78.media.tumblr.com/a3f5952501a3160ae5d9320cce456aab/tumblr_mqy5fspfqX1sdtiiwo1_400.gif
L151[06:10:00] <Eddi|zuHause> did anyone ever ask a flat-earther what he thinks about terry pratchett?
L152[06:11:21] <Althego> hehe
L153[06:11:24] <Althego> doubt it
L154[06:14:10] <Fluburtur> weather is nice
L155[06:14:23] <Fluburtur> I should make more visit cards and go to the river with the bottleboa
L156[06:14:29] <Fluburtur> bottleboat*
L157[06:14:38] <Althego> and guitar practice at the river?
L158[06:14:45] <Fluburtur> nah
L159[06:29:44] <Eddi|zuHause> nice song to go with the weather? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ck6BCzMcKiE
L160[06:29:44] <kmath> YouTube - PeterLicht - Sonnendeck
L161[06:30:17] <Eddi|zuHause> (terrible video quality)
L162[06:32:15] <Althego> hahaha
L163[06:32:15] <Althego> https://orig00.deviantart.net/846f/f/2018/095/2/2/space_octopus_attack_by_capital_asterisk-dc7zkhk.png
L164[06:32:48] <Althego> https://i.redd.it/udllxde9syp01.png
L165[06:32:53] <Althego> https://i.redd.it/fo1awhf61ip01.png
L166[06:33:10] <Eddi|zuHause> how typically kerbal
L167[06:35:27] <Althego> there are a whole bunch of people who look for anomalies in curiosity pictures
L168[06:36:09] <Althego> meaning signs of conspiracy coverup or aliens
L169[06:37:41] <Althego> (local) leet time
L170[06:40:13] <Eddi|zuHause> aw i missed it :/
L171[06:51:13] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3ESPCQgDok
L172[06:51:13] <kmath> YouTube - Quiet Supersonic X-Plane
L173[06:51:40] <Althego> would be nice to leave the subsonic era behind
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L180[07:38:35] <Fluburtur> I almost used 1kg of plastic on my gaming pc and I don't think like I made anything useful with it
L181[07:47:47] <Althego> it doesnt make a pc faster
L182[07:47:53] <Althego> maybe if it makes it mre aerodynamic
L183[07:48:03] <Fluburtur> yeah
L184[07:48:05] <Althego> or plastic as in explosiv
L185[07:48:14] <Fluburtur> also the parts cooling fan doesn't turn
L186[07:53:35] <Fluburtur> k I should probably make the video about my 3d printed landing gear
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L190[08:50:27] <Fluburtur> uh it is so warm
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L197[09:19:03] <BadRocketsCo> Howdy
L198[09:19:08] <Fluburtur> yo
L199[09:19:17] <BadRocketsCo> What's up?
L200[09:19:29] <Fluburtur> not much
L201[09:20:10] <BadRocketsCo> Aight
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L211[09:56:36] <Fluburtur> https://youtu.be/RXgmfhzmvI8
L212[09:56:37] <kmath> YouTube - RCTESTFLIGHT - Huge RC Car with Camera Stabilizer
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L221[10:57:29] <Fluburtur> im going to do night flying with the bigS wing and im considering putting a smoke on it
L222[11:00:15] <Althego> why smoke at night?
L223[11:00:53] <Fluburtur> because it will also make a big flame and the plane will have lights
L224[11:00:58] <Fluburtur> but you make a good point
L225[11:01:04] <Fluburtur> I shall smoke during the day
L226[11:01:17] <Althego> which has a completely different meaning altogether
L227[11:01:23] <Fluburtur> yeah
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L260[15:15:56] <APlayer> https://i.imgur.com/tFm0Enb.gifv
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L262[15:37:46] <Fluburtur> night flying done
L263[15:43:31] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/186186471202357249/432279244257755136/DSC_8678.JPG
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L268[16:19:06] <Gasher> Fluburtur, beware of UFO sightings increase in the area
L269[16:19:19] <Fluburtur> eh I didn't fly high enough for that
L270[16:20:13] <Gasher> it's not about the altitude, it's more about alcohol in the vein of the beholder
L271[16:20:33] <Fluburtur> the only peoples that could have seen it are farmers
L272[16:20:38] <Fluburtur> but your point stands then
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L274[16:20:54] <Gasher> lol
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L277[16:33:18] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/186186471202357249/432291772207595540/DSC_8672.MOV.Image_fixe001.png
L278[16:33:20] <Fluburtur> eh yeah
L279[16:36:49] <marcus> You guys know if the remotetech guys are on IRC and/or on discord?
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L281[16:40:06] <Draconiator> Hmmm, no wonder my powered speaker was just a dollar...the driver itself idn't secured at all, unless the top is on.
L282[16:42:25] <Fluburtur> the plane looks pretty cool when the light is flashing
L283[16:46:03] <N70> "Or we could all just take mushrooms and watch these cats fly around for HOURS" -OzzyInSpace on module manager's nyan cats
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L285[16:54:54] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/186186471202357249/432297218335178762/DSC_8674.MOV.Image_fixe001.png
L286[17:04:05] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/186186471202357249/432299533716684801/DSC_8674.MOV.Image_fixe003.png
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L292[17:50:45] <Fluburtur> https://youtu.be/8bBk1bmsGaM
L293[17:50:45] <kmath> YouTube - Night flying wing
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L299[18:18:48] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/186187235538894848/432318256603201536/Screenshot_80.png
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L306[18:47:00] <Supernovy> Evening, Gentlemen.
L307[18:47:36] <iamfishhead1> Evening
L308[18:50:11] <SnoopJeDi> ahoy Supernovy
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L321[20:57:22] <Scolar_Visari> Sons and daughters of Kerbin: From here on in, all peer review in all journals will be handled by specially trained infants to ensure maximum quality.
L322[20:58:46] <Scolar_Visari> And today in questionable peer review: Frederick & Gallup Jr. "The demise of dinosaurs and learned taste aversions: The biotic revenge hypothesis" Ideas in Ecology and Evolution 2018 https://ojs.library.queensu.ca/index.php/IEE/article/view/6802
L323[21:01:37] <Scolar_Visari> From the article: "Much of the available evidence suggests birds descended from dinosaurs."
L324[21:01:50] <Scolar_Visari> Only, "much"?
L325[21:01:59] <SnoopJeDi> #teachthecontroversy
L326[21:02:12] <Scolar_Visari> As I recall, the scientists who suggested a non-dinosaurian origin for birds are all dead.
L327[21:03:22] <Supernovy> I'd hedge my bets too. You never know what'll get overturned later on.
L328[21:03:44] <SnoopJeDi> Supernovy, today was our physics festival, Rocky Kolb spoke about Einstein and the cosmological constant.
L329[21:04:09] <Scolar_Visari> TLDR: Flowers, which were around for around 60 million years before the dinosaurs went extinct, contributed to their extinction because natural selection is not a thing based on a single study from the 80's.
L330[21:04:24] <SnoopJeDi> "So the lesson here is to never admit you're wrong. He said he made a mistake, what an idiot! If only he'd held his ground, people would remember him for the cosmological constant, instead of forgetting him."
L331[21:04:54] <Scolar_Visari> Supernovy: The problem with overturning the origins of the birds is that it would, at this point, require alien intervention and the acceptance that some dinosaurs (such as raptors) would still be birds.
L332[21:05:42] <Supernovy> "Much of the available evidence suggests F = ma"
L333[21:06:03] <SnoopJeDi> that's a definition!
L334[21:06:51] <Supernovy> Yeah, and a not very useful one since using gives you the wrong answer.
L335[21:07:58] <Scolar_Visari> Moreover, we actually do have strong evidence that plant eating dinosaurs incorporated visual displays to attract mates. It's not much of a stretch to argue they'd also be able to visually distinguish edible and inedible plant matter like modern birds.
L336[21:08:57] <Supernovy> Wait, is the argument that dinosaurs were too dumb to not eat flowers and so they all died?
L337[21:09:58] <Scolar_Visari> Supernovy: Eat *bad* flowers. The authors connect an old study to caiman's inability to avoid poisonous foods to plant eating dinosaurs, ignoring that caiman's are carnivores.
L338[21:10:35] <Supernovy> and they're the wrong kind of reptile, too.
L339[21:10:53] <Scolar_Visari> It's . . . Not a good paper. To be frank, it doesn't actually present any new evidence, and seems to parrot a paper made by one of the co-authors from several decades ago.
L340[21:11:56] <Scolar_Visari> Also: The beginning of the paper is rather odd. They go at length to compare the Chicxulub Impactor's effects to nuclear winter, even though I think most scientists that publish papers on either topic would scoff at the comparison. It's almost like it's there simply for padding.
L341[21:11:58] <Supernovy> they're the out-legs type rather than the down-legs type
L342[21:12:16] <Supernovy> but I think all the down-leg types are gone. At least the reptile ones.
L343[21:12:43] <Scolar_Visari> Supernovy: Sprawling. Other non-dinosaurian erect (down-legs) were phony pillar-erect types.
L344[21:13:06] <Supernovy> I'm Chicxulub, I'm wild.
L345[21:13:47] <Scolar_Visari> From the article, regarding the impactor: "However, upon entering the Earth’s atmosphere much of the mass would have been vaporized due to the extreme heat caused by air friction."
L346[21:14:07] <Scolar_Visari> I'm afraid I'll need a citation for the first part, and that last part is iffy.
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L348[21:14:43] <Supernovy> This is a great IRC channel to post the "heat caused by air friction" thing.
L349[21:14:47] <lordcirth> How much delta-v savings is Duna aerobraking worth when landing?
L350[21:14:51] * Scolar_Visari mutters something about air being compressed and thus heated by the oncoming bollide.
L351[21:15:24] <Scolar_Visari> lordcirth: Less than it would be with Mars?
L352[21:15:28] <UmbralRaptop> Friction, adiabatic compression, close enough.
L353[21:15:47] <Supernovy> Yeah, and I haven't seen the models myself but I'd bet the percentage of mass lost by an entering object decreases with increasing object mass.
L354[21:15:54] <UmbralRaptop> lordcirth: uh, ideally on the order of your orbital speed.
L355[21:16:02] <Scolar_Visari> Supernovy: Dat reduction of surface area.
L356[21:16:03] <lordcirth> Playing at 4x scale; 3km/s to take off is rough enough
L357[21:16:15] <SnoopJeDi> they're technically right about the vaporized bit modulo the vernacular meaning of "ENTIRELY vaporized" heh
L358[21:16:41] <lordcirth> UmbralRaptop, and how's the heat?
L359[21:16:45] <Scolar_Visari> I can't imagine an extinction level asteroid having *much* vaporized relative to their staggering masses.
L360[21:17:06] <Supernovy> Well, it'd be Duna orbital velocity minus Duna terminal velocity, plus deorbit burn delta-v.
L361[21:17:21] <UmbralRaptop> lordcirth: afraid I don't know.
L362[21:17:34] <Scolar_Visari> Though it's not like having that mass completely burn up in the atmosphere would be more palatable. You know, because there'd still be an explosion.
L363[21:18:12] <SnoopJeDi> Scolar_Visari, yea that was my joke :P
L364[21:18:23] <Supernovy> Oh yeah. If they're big enough they tend to go up all at once, don't they?
L365[21:18:40] <SnoopJeDi> Really?
L366[21:19:09] <SnoopJeDi> holy crap, that's amazing!
L367[21:24:19] <Scolar_Visari> Well, not only does this article us an encyclopedia as one of its references (a big no-no), it also conflates, "dinosaurs were in gradual decline before extinction" with (in its own words), "The disappearance of dinosaurs was gradual rather than sudden.
L368[21:25:02] <Scolar_Visari> To quote the source the article was using for its latter claim: "Although Mesozoic dinosaurs undoubtedly dominated the terrestrial megafauna until the end of the Cretaceous, they did see a reduction in their capacity to replace extinct species with new ones, making them more susceptible to sudden and catastrophic environmental changes, like those a
L369[21:25:02] <Scolar_Visari> ssociated with the asteroid impact."
L370[21:25:25] <Scolar_Visari> How did this get through peer review? Did no one bother to check anything?
L371[21:26:22] <Scolar_Visari> And more dubious claims: "Caimans as representative crocodilians descendant from dinosaurs appear incapable of developing learned taste aversions."
L372[21:27:20] <Scolar_Visari> I'm not even sure pre-Dinosaur Heresies paleontologists would have ever said that crocodiles were, "descendant from dinosaurs".
L373[21:28:48] <SnoopJeDi> oh wow neat, it's air pressure dependent
L374[21:30:20] <Supernovy> Yeah! Wrong legs!
L375[21:32:00] * Scolar_Visari looks up the journal's impact factor. Last recorded at 1.39 back in 2015.
L376[21:32:46] <Scolar_Visari> Thank Heavens I guess?
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L378[21:34:19] <Supernovy> Now look up Chicxulub's impact factor!
L379[21:34:42] <Scolar_Visari> Supernovy: It's literally off the scale if we rate citations by number of species extinguished.
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L381[21:35:43] * Scolar_Visari now has more reasons to stay away from evolutionary psychology.
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L383[21:37:46] <Scolar_Visari> Now . . . to get CKII DLC or not to get it.
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L385[21:38:25] <SnoopJeDi> just got it during the promotion, Scolar_Visari?
L386[21:40:09] <Scolar_Visari> SnoopJeDi: Indeed, I would not have ever gotten it otherwise. However, a game where *losing* should be as much fun as *winning* seems intriuging.
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L388[21:40:41] * Scolar_Visari snickers at the thought of creating super Hapsburgs.
L389[21:40:45] <Supernovy> As opposed to games where losing is more fun than winning.
L390[21:40:58] <lordcirth> So long as it's barely losing, most games are as fun losing
L391[21:42:16] <Scolar_Visari> Well, if they have bad ending cutscenes.
L392[21:42:30] * Scolar_Visari notes this does not apply to Mass Effect 3, of course.
L393[21:43:01] <Scolar_Visari> I suppose $5 for the ability to create the Haus of Visari wouldn't be too demanding.
L394[21:44:42] <SnoopJeDi> Scolar_Visari, I know nothing about it except that a colleague has sunk in hundreds of hours, prompting another to dub the game Parliment Simulator
L395[21:46:02] <Scolar_Visari> SnoopJeDi: It's a dynasty management simulator, with the options of incompetance, illiteracy and inbreeding
L396[21:46:26] <SnoopJeDi> yea, looks neat
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L398[21:49:40] <SnoopJeDi> incredible contour plot of Valles Marineris: https://github.com/fogleman/terrarium
L399[21:50:49] <Supernovy> The Mariner Valley?
L400[21:52:28] <UmbralRaptop> Ooh…
L401[21:52:40] <Scolar_Visari> SnoopJedi: It's also horrifyingly complicated, like most other Paradox games.
L402[21:53:06] <SnoopJeDi> Scolar_Visari, 10/10 look forward to bouncing off of
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L405[21:54:45] <Scolar_Visari> I want to start out as a lesser vassal, because I'm sure I'm not up to the task of handling the Norman Conquest of England or the Holy Roman Empire.
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L407[21:58:09] <Scolar_Visari> Horodyskyj et al. "Habitable Worlds: Delivering on the Promises of Online Education" Astrobiology 2018 https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/a73a/243f1b317825b63f0c6b13ddc280320ceebe.pdf
L408[21:59:00] <Scolar_Visari> This . . . Habitable Worlds should be the basis for a game.
L409[22:01:21] <Scolar_Visari> Why limit this to enrolled students alone?
L410[22:03:48] * Scolar_Visari ponders a, "prettied up" version of Habitable Worlds with the players responsible for multiple generations of scientists and explorers starting with an astronomy grad student discovering habitable worlds and ending with a field biologist surveying the target worlds in person.
L411[22:03:48] <ve2dmn> ok this is the most absurd conference I have heard about: BlockchainGamer Connect Conference
L412[22:03:54] <ve2dmn> like... WAHT?
L413[22:04:23] <Scolar_Visari> Hey . . . IT'd be like Harvest Moon: A Wonderful Life!
L414[22:04:48] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn: I'm sure there are more absurd conferences. Like the Flat Earth Conference.
L415[22:05:02] <ve2dmn> True
L416[22:05:28] <UmbralRaptop> RMT MMO, where the ingame transactions use blockchain verification?
L417[22:05:56] <SnoopJeDi> ve2dmn, Cryptokittiemon?
L418[22:06:08] <ve2dmn> I forgot about that thing
L419[22:06:21] <UmbralRaptop> ネコノミコン?
L420[22:06:31] <Supernovy> anti-conferencers Conference
L421[22:06:31] <UmbralRaptop> er, wait. different cats.
L422[22:06:36] <ve2dmn> http://www.pgconnects.com/sanfrancisco/blockchain-gamer-connects/
L423[22:08:04] <Scolar_Visari> UmbralRaptop: I wanna see MMOs that use household chores as in-game currency.
L424[22:08:34] <Scolar_Visari> "This +2 Machine Gun of Lightning will cost ya ten weeks of washing dishes."
L425[22:08:57] <UmbralRaptop> Scolar_Visari: wasn't there already an online version of The Sims?
L426[22:09:17] <ve2dmn> Scolar_Visari: like the mini-games in some games (No more heroes?)
L427[22:09:18] <Scolar_Visari> Psht, since when do you *have* to do chores in The Sims? Most of my Sims never live long enough for that to be an issue!
L428[22:09:37] <Scolar_Visari> I was thinking of actual chores. So stuff gets done.
L429[22:10:02] * Scolar_Visari was never really any good at The Sims.
L430[22:10:24] <UmbralRaptop> hah
L431[22:10:57] <Scolar_Visari> Though, I will admit, playing EVE always felt like a chore. Or most MMOs, for that matter.
L432[22:11:08] <SnoopJeDi> wow, habitable worlds looks pretty cool, Scolar_Visari
L433[22:11:23] <SnoopJeDi> might have to bring that up with some of my astro colleagues, they're generally bold about trying new pedagogical stuff
L434[22:12:37] <SnoopJeDi> Scolar_Visari, hmm, so the game idea you were silhouetting....kinda like Universe Sandbox, but with a cogent plot?
L435[22:12:40] <Scolar_Visari> SnoopJeDi: The program seems to have started circa 2011, but I really do see some good potential for this to be spun off given the rising popularity of things like KSP since its release.
L436[22:12:53] <Scolar_Visari> SnoopJeDi: I was thinking Space Engine but sure?
L437[22:12:56] <SnoopJeDi> and checkpointed "right answers?" or something?
L438[22:13:47] * Scolar_Visari laments the delayed release of Space Engine's next version.
L439[22:14:01] <Scolar_Visari> Also: https://outrider.org/nuclear-weapons/interactive/bomb-blast/
L440[22:14:07] <ve2dmn> Scolar_Visari: I felt lost in Space Engineer...
L441[22:14:16] <ve2dmn> What are you suppose to do in that game?
L442[22:14:18] <UmbralRaptop> Sarcastic response: sim decadal survey
L443[22:14:26] <SnoopJeDi> LOL
L444[22:15:31] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn: Probe the universe.
L445[22:15:48] <Scolar_Visari> It's also excellent for exercising the mouse scroll wheel finger.
L446[22:15:49] <UmbralRaptop> ve2dmn: I think treat it as MERCURY6, but with a better ui and flexability at the expense of worse integrators?
L447[22:16:10] <Scolar_Visari> Also: Space Engine, not Space Engineer.
L448[22:16:34] <Scolar_Visari> One simulates the entire universe, the other involves legos or something I guess?
L449[22:17:46] * UmbralRaptop might be thinking of something else.
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L452[22:19:33] <Scolar_Visari> UmbralRaptop: http://spaceengine.org/
L453[22:20:27] <UmbralRaptop> that fancy graphics version of nukemap killed my phone's ram. =\
L454[22:20:33] <SnoopJeDi> UmbralRaptop, underrated joke
L455[22:21:00] <Neal> spaceengine.org? better try it on my phone with 4gb of ram
L456[22:21:27] * Scolar_Visari ponders if UmbralRaptop should really be UmbralRaphone.
L457[22:21:30] <Neal> UmbralRaptop, what site?
L458[22:22:59] <Scolar_Visari> https://outrider.org/nuclear-weapons/interactive/bomb-blast/
L459[22:23:01] <UmbralRaptop> Scolar_Visari: I was confusing space engine with universe sandbox. >_>
L460[22:23:06] <Scolar_Visari> UmbralRaptor: Ho ho ho ho.
L461[22:23:22] <Supernovy> Univengine Spacebox
L462[22:23:37] <UmbralRaptop> compare: https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/
L463[22:23:38] <Scolar_Visari> Seriously though: Habitable Worlds + Harvest Moon = The Weyland Yutani simulator?
L464[22:23:43] <SnoopJeDi> (3) H O W T O D O A N I N T E G R A T I O N
L465[22:23:48] <SnoopJeDi> what an amazing line of text
L466[22:24:01] <SnoopJeDi> might be one of the best things I've ever seen in a README
L467[22:24:01] <Scolar_Visari> SnoopJeDi: Step one: Remember how to space.
L468[22:24:18] <Neal> site's going strong on my galaxy s8
L469[22:24:31] <UmbralRaptop> SnoopJeDi: first, you summon an egg…
L470[22:25:03] <SnoopJeDi> stir in some bofh and a pinch of fiora
L471[22:25:48] <UmbralRaptop> Neal: it was the outrider.org one… on a Nexus 5X (2 gig ram)
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L478[23:49:43] <Supercheese> Solar eklipse, neat
L479[23:49:58] <Supercheese> well, from this ship's perspective
L480[23:50:35] <Supercheese> oh blast, blocking my solar panels
L481[23:51:30] <Althego> in ksp solar eclipses are daily routine
L482[23:52:15] <Supercheese> fun to see, but a pain on the EC production
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