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L5[00:20:10] <Althego> haha energy
star
L6[00:20:14] <Althego> that logo
L7[00:20:17] <Althego> takes me back
L8[00:20:21] <Draconiator> I can't hear mine
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L9[00:21:47] <Gasher[work]> i can hear it
booting in my mind
L10[00:22:14] <Althego> also the modem
noises... when i had a modem. for many years didnt
L11[00:22:37] <Gasher[work]> same
L12[00:26:56] <Draconiator> The dial up
modem noise is practically burned into my brain...lol
L13[00:32:11] <Draconiator> Me and a friend
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machines....and the price is right it's coming home with me.
lol
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L16[00:41:34] <Gasher[work]> Draconiator,
necrotech lol
L17[00:42:24] <Althego> technomancer,
revives old technologies :)
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L23[01:13:19] <Althego> Factoids: Mars is
the only known planet inhabited exclusively by active robots.
L24[01:15:37] <UmbralRaptop> (orbits do not
count)
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L31[01:35:41] <Supernovy> I think there's
some dead robots there too.
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L115[05:54:36] <Japa_> ...
L116[05:54:43] <marcus> !!!
L117[05:54:58] <Japa_> I got a contract to
rescue some kerbal in a suborbital trajectory on the mun
L118[05:55:10] <marcus> ouch, better get
going then
L119[05:55:11] <sandbox> F
L120[05:56:02] <Gasher_> lol
L121[05:56:19] <Japa_> I was halfway there
before they, uh, landed.
L122[05:58:49] <Mat2ch> Uh
L123[05:59:14] <Mat2ch> how would it be
possible to fullfil such a contract?
L124[06:00:13] <Fluburtur> with a rocket
that has a twr of 1000
L125[06:01:00] <Mat2ch> and burns up on
launch. :P
L126[06:01:33] <Fluburtur> nah will be out
of atmo before it gets to heat up
L128[06:11:28] <Fluburtur> it kinda looks
like a cloud in the sky
L129[06:11:33] <Fluburtur> and it is
actually
L130[06:12:53] <APlayer> Do you frequently
have sulfur clouds in the sky?
L131[06:13:08] <Fluburtur> about twice a
month
L132[06:13:11] <Fluburtur> usually my
fault
L133[06:14:48] <Gasher_> you should inform
your gastroenterologist about these complications of
digestion
L134[06:15:14] <APlayer> Well, that
escalated quickly
L136[06:17:12] <Althego> hehe
L137[06:17:33] <Fluburtur> also I was
talking about my midly dangerous chemical experiments
L138[06:17:49] <Althego> burning
rockets
L139[06:18:27] <APlayer> No, not burning
rockets
L140[06:18:30] <APlayer> Exploding
them
L142[06:33:12] <Bllaank> Could they
theoretically take off a faclon 9 from a landed position and then
crank the legs back up?
L143[06:33:29] <Bllaank> Oh, right, it
can't hold them when full.
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L145[06:41:13] <APlayer> In the animations
of the BFR, which does something similar, they somehow attach it to
a supporting tower.
L146[06:41:43] <APlayer> But this whole
single-launcher thing seems like a big mess to me
L147[06:42:04] <APlayer> Much more
realistic to simply launch two tankers and re-launch them after a
few days of inspection.
L148[06:42:17] <Pakaran> Morning.
L149[06:42:29] <APlayer> Afternoon!
L150[06:44:24] <Pakaran> So I was
thinking, it's about time that I set up a comsat network. Do folks
typically leave the carrier in transfer orbit (ideally one with
some 'easy' proportion of the final orbit, say 2/3), or put it just
above/below the final orbit and release sats in the appropriate
places (so they need far less delta-v?)
L151[06:46:51] <APlayer> Do you launch all
sats in a single rocket?
L153[06:48:24] <Pakaran> That's one of the
things I'm planning to figure out. I would have no real problem
blowing a hundred K funds on this (hardly necessary), but separate
rockets would let me do them as ride-alongs on Mun tourist missions
and release during the transfer burn.
L154[06:49:36] <Pakaran> My really silly
idea is, since I plan on a lab in high space over Kerbin *anyhow*,
throw on a probe core and make it effectively one of the
sats.
L156[06:50:26] <Bllaank> I typically have
my first stage burn up in atmos one way or another.
L157[06:51:58] <Gasher_> Fluburtur, new
landing gear part for your aircraft?
L158[06:52:11] <Fluburtur> no that's a
part of a tank tracks
L159[06:52:21] <Pakaran> Bllaank, I've had
first stages nearly make orbit.
L160[06:52:48] <Pakaran> I think it's
semi-necessary when using a Poodle second stage and something
heavy.
L161[06:54:41] <APlayer> Pakaran: I
suggest you keep the station in a polar orbit for research purposes
and put the sats into KEO or near-KEO for convenience
purposes.
L162[06:55:12] <APlayer> If you use
SCANsat or similar, that is. Else the orbit of the station hardly
matters
L163[06:55:35] <APlayer> Polar would only
impose unnecessary launch window constraints
L164[06:55:52] <Bllaank> My first stages
do make orbit and I ditch them with 60 km per on the
circularization burn.
L165[06:57:18] <APlayer> Pakaran: If you
make the sats hitch Mun rides or if you launch them all in one go,
I suggest you pack them a few hundred of m/s of dV each, which
enables you to put them in a different orbit than KEO and gradually
adjust it to nudge them in place
L166[06:58:00] <APlayer> If you launch
them individually, you don't need much dV except for some little
RCS capabilites for orbit maintenance
L167[07:01:48] <Pakaran> APlayer, yeah, I
have no intent of circularizing the Mun craft partway out. I was
thinking shared launch mostly because all my launchers are designed
for crewed flight, so trying to make something for, say, a 250 kg
payload wouldn't likely be much cheaper (and certainly not a third
as cheap).
L168[07:02:30] <APlayer> This will work
fine, but you'll have to bring some fuel on the sats
L169[07:02:47] <Pakaran> yeah,
thanks.
L170[07:02:55] <APlayer> I can't give you
any concrete numbers, unfortunately, as I have not played the stock
solar system for quite some time now
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L172[07:03:00] <Pakaran> I'm mostly
brainstorming at this point
L173[07:03:05] <APlayer> But I guess on
the order of 500 m/s to 1 km/s
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L175[07:03:17] <Pakaran> that's fine. They
wouldn't help me, because I'm playing Kerbal Star Systems, which
makes everything slightly harder
L176[07:03:42] <Pakaran> by going,
basically, for exactly 1/10 reality (including on Kerbin's radius,
which thus ends up slightly bigger)
L177[07:04:14] <APlayer> You should check
out RSS. :-)
L178[07:04:30] <APlayer> It takes some
time to get used to, but it's absolutely gorgeous.
L179[07:06:06] <Pakaran> I have a 1.2 RSS
install, haven't played it in awhile. And I agree :)
L180[07:06:23] <TheKosmonaut> APlayer:
once i went to RSS I just couldn't really enjoy regular scale
L181[07:06:31] <TheKosmonaut> Though 6.4x
was nice
L182[07:06:57] <APlayer> Yeah, I started
with KScale64 and went on to RSS
L183[07:07:19] <APlayer> When I now look
back at those short and fat stock rockets, it's funny, haha
L184[07:09:13] <Pakaran> I think it's the
non-equatorial launch site that gave me the most headaches with
RSS.
L185[07:09:27] <Pakaran> I found it harder
to make orbit than doing quarter-scale with stock parts.
L186[07:09:58] <APlayer> I want to try out
non-equatorial launch sites, but I found nothing that works and is
not a full RO install
L187[07:10:12] <APlayer> I even tried to
modify something myself, but I horribly failed
L188[07:10:14] <marcus> APlayer: Making
History has one
L189[07:10:39] <APlayer> I haven't bought
Making History :-(
L190[07:10:45] <taniwha> yeah, and it does
make it a bit challenging
L191[07:10:52] <marcus>
"bought"? ;)
L192[07:10:58] <marcus> Got mine for
free!
L193[07:11:03] <APlayer> Well
L194[07:11:11] <taniwha> I guess APlayer
was late to the game
L195[07:11:16] <APlayer> I am also no a
long-enough-time user of the game
L196[07:11:22] <APlayer> not*
L197[07:11:39] <Althego> note that the ksc
is not actuallt on the equator
L198[07:11:43] <Althego> slightly to the
south
L199[07:11:53] <Althego> so the runway is
closer
L200[07:12:04] <taniwha> but still not
on
L201[07:12:13] <Althego> the launchpad is
farther, you have to go sideways longer than from the runway
L202[07:12:15] <Pakaran> I don't think it
matters at KSC's inclination.
L203[07:12:30] <Althego> 0.1 deg
inclination
L204[07:12:36] <Pakaran> the 'inefficiency
factor' to equatorial orbit is something like the sine or tangent
of... yeah, that.
L205[07:12:41] <Althego> or at least that
is what the game writes out
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L207[07:12:53] <BadRocketsCo> Hiii!
L208[07:13:01] <APlayer> Heeloo!
L209[07:13:12] <Pakaran> hello
L210[07:13:12] <Mod9000> Hello,
Pakaran
L211[07:13:22] <APlayer> Haha, this
thing
L212[07:13:30] <APlayer> I'll have to
pester Deddly one day
L213[07:13:54] <BadRocketsCo>
.weather
L214[07:13:57] <BadRocketsCo> Err
L215[07:14:03] <BadRocketsCo> Nvm
L216[07:14:10] <BadRocketsCo> What's up?
:D
L217[07:14:11] <Fluburtur> weather here is
nice
L218[07:14:15] <Fluburtur> I should go
fly
L219[07:14:18] <APlayer> Yeah, I've
heard
L220[07:14:24] <APlayer> Sulfur clouds and
stuff
L221[07:14:42] <Mod9000> Hello,
APlayer
L222[07:14:52] <APlayer> Deddly?
L223[07:14:56] <APlayer> Is that
you?
L224[07:14:56] <Mod9000> Hello,
APlayer
L225[07:15:11] <APlayer> Alright,
haha
L226[07:15:33] *
Deddly looks convincingly innocent
L227[07:15:50] <APlayer> Hello,
Deddly
L228[07:16:07] <Deddly> Oh hi there
APlayer!
L229[07:16:16] <Mod9000> Hello,
Dedddly
L230[07:16:29] <APlayer> You have a typo
there. ;-)
L231[07:16:42] <APlayer> (busted)
L232[07:17:40] ***
Deddly is now known as Dedddly
L233[07:17:43] <Dedddly> hi
L234[07:17:45] <Mod9000> Hello,
Dedddly
L235[07:17:50] <APlayer> LOL
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L237[07:22:16] <APlayer> I think I should
get myself a new chair
L238[07:22:31] <TheKosmonaut> Hi
L239[07:22:33] <Mod9000> Hello,
TheKosmonaut
L240[07:22:36] <TheKosmonaut> Hi
L241[07:22:37] <Mod9000> Hello,
TheKosmonaut
L242[07:22:57] <APlayer> This one was
already broken and glued a few times, and now it dropped a screw,
and I don't know where it should go
L243[07:22:58] <Gasher_> Hello,
TheKosmonaut
L244[07:23:10] <APlayer> Hello,
Gasher_
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L246[07:23:59] <TheKosmonaut> Hello
Gasher_
L247[07:24:18] *
marcus softly shakes his head.
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L249[07:25:34] <APlayer> #KSPOfficial has
been nominated as the friendliest channel on EsperNet! Average
greeting rate: 1.63 greetings / min
L250[07:25:50] <APlayer> 1.64, even
L251[07:25:55] <Mat2ch> Hello!
L252[07:25:59] <Mat2ch> I think you are
cheating. :D
L253[07:26:01] <APlayer> Hi!
L254[07:26:17] <Arcan> Rawr or something
idk
L255[07:27:06] <APlayer> We need to greet
each other more, the rate is dropping (now at 1.54)
L256[07:27:35] <Arcan> no I refuse
L257[07:27:48] <APlayer> (Arcan was kicked
from the channel)
L258[07:28:19] <Arcan> roar
L259[07:31:19] <Mat2ch> Hello, it's me, I
was wondering if after all these years you still play KSP?
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L261[07:32:02] <Mat2ch> Hello Deddly
L262[07:32:03] <APlayer> Hello,
Deddly
L263[07:32:18] *
APlayer high fives Mat2ch
L264[07:32:47] <Deddly> Hello,
Mod9000
L265[07:33:14] <Mat2ch> Hey
L266[07:33:18] <Mat2ch> wait!
L267[07:33:20] <Althego> hehe
L268[07:33:35] <Althego> it didnt say
anything now
L269[07:33:40] <TheKosmonaut> Mat2ch:
hello from the other suicide iiiit
L270[07:33:48] <TheKosmonaut> Dang it
autocorrected
L271[07:33:52] <Gasher_> LOL
L272[07:33:57] <TheKosmonaut> Other
siiiiiiiiiiiiide*
L273[07:33:57] <Mat2ch> ok
L274[07:34:02] <Mat2ch> no
L275[07:34:13] <Mat2ch> you have to change
it to match the KSP theme.
L276[07:34:31] <Mat2ch> Like: Hello from
the launch site
L277[07:34:49] <TheKosmonaut> I must have
hit Space a thousand times
L278[07:35:41] <Mat2ch> I can't. I simply
can't. It's too much *rollsonthefloor**holdshisbelly* :D
L279[07:37:32] <Mat2ch> "To tell you,
I'm sorry, for messing the staging up"
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L283[07:46:46] <TheKosmonaut> Spotted a
lovely car
L285[07:47:21] <Arcan> TheKosmonaut:
interesting
L286[07:47:57] <TheKosmonaut> That whole
street has nice stuff
L287[07:48:37] <Arcan> idk where that is
but i'm guessing east asia
L288[07:48:58] <TheKosmonaut> Spotted a
couple of Murciealago a Carrera GT too
L289[07:49:00] <TheKosmonaut> Arcan:
Tokyo
L290[07:49:16] <APlayer> Hello from
Tokyo?
L291[07:50:06] <Arcan> TheKosmonaut: tokyo
is indeed in east asia
L292[07:50:27] <Arcan> although I thought
japanese script looked different apparently I was wrong
L293[07:52:49] <TheKosmonaut> Arcan: the
signage for that restaurant is very stylized
L294[07:53:00] <TheKosmonaut> So you
probably are right to be confused
L295[07:53:34] <Arcan> TheKosmonaut: I
cannot read it either way, I just am vaaaaguely familiar with the
"shapes" of the script
L296[07:53:46] <Arcan> I remember it being
more rounded and...flowing
L297[07:53:51] <taniwha> Arcan: on the
right?
L298[07:54:02] <taniwha> oh, you're
thinking of hiragana
L299[07:54:08] <TheKosmonaut> There's not
much hiragana in that photo eh
L300[07:54:15] <TheKosmonaut> Unless you
zoom in
L301[07:54:28] <TheKosmonaut> The big sign
basically is for a grilled seafood place
L302[07:54:39] <taniwha> there's quite a
bit of katakana and kanji in various "fonts"
L303[07:55:00] <Arcan> taniwha: I don't
know what you're talking about but OK
L304[07:55:25] <Arcan> I can pronounce
japanese something approaching correctly if it's written out in
latin characters
L305[07:55:33] <Arcan> even though I don't
know what it means
L306[07:55:59] <taniwha> hiragana: ひらがな
katakana: カタカナ
L307[07:56:16] <Arcan> taniwha: I was
thinking of katakana
L308[07:56:24] <TheKosmonaut> Arcan: japan
uses three different forms of writing (in unison). So you see 漢字
which are the complicated ones with all the strokes, and those
other two than taniwha just wrote
L309[07:56:25] <Arcan> it reminds me of
cursive
L310[07:56:30] <taniwha> kanji: 漢字
L311[07:56:40] <Arcan> TheKosmonaut:
confusing
L312[07:56:47] <Arcan> interesting but
confusing
L313[07:56:52] <TheKosmonaut> taniwha: I
wish they used katakana exclusively
L314[07:56:55] <taniwha> Arcan: surpringly
not very
L315[07:57:03] <TheKosmonaut> I like the
flow of it more
L316[07:57:06] <taniwha> TheKosmonaut:
eww, katakana... ick
L317[07:57:18] <taniwha> I prefer
hiragana
L318[07:58:03] <marcus> I like
turtles
L319[07:58:17] <Arcan> hiragana looks like
lots of sneks
L320[08:00:40] <Gasher_> with kana it's
quite easy to identify japanese writing
L321[08:02:33] <Arcan> japanese is like
spanish in a way
L322[08:02:37] <Arcan> lots of soft
sounds
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L325[08:04:13] <TheKosmonaut> taniwha: I'm
just glad we don't read it right-left
L326[08:04:34] <TheKosmonaut> I was a bit
confused when I went to a museum and saw のえう
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L328[08:14:16] <Rokker> TheKosmonaut:
don't ping me with your commie speak
L329[08:14:25] <Rokker> u dang weeb
L330[08:14:40] <Arcan> Rokker: fully
automated luxury gay space communism or something
L331[08:14:53] <Arcan> I think that's how
that meme goes
L332[08:15:05] <Rokker> Arcan: more like
not American and therefore commie
L333[08:15:47] <Rokker> TheKosmonaut: no
pingy the rokker
L334[08:16:08] <Arcan> Rokker: I can like
anime and drive a lifted pickup tyvm
L335[08:16:09] <TheKosmonaut> Well. Maybe
museum is the wrong ping
L336[08:17:05] <Rokker> TheKosmonaut:
museum is never the wrong ping
L337[08:17:11] <Rokker> museum is the one
true ping
L338[08:17:16] <Rokker> the ping that
never lies
L339[08:17:28] <Arcan> do we have a
sed-bot?
L340[08:17:32] <Rokker> TheKosmonaut: what
museum and what does the weebspeak say
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L342[08:18:52] <Arcan> Rokker: I hope
you're being facetious
L343[08:19:25] <Rokker> how dare you, I'm
not a fascist
L344[08:20:07] <Rokker> Arcan: I'm 30%
serious at most
L345[08:21:16] <Arcan> Rokker: that's
reassuring
L346[08:23:56] <Rokker> now, TheKosmonaut
what museum dammit
L347[08:27:27] <TheKosmonaut> Rokker: You
know how you said museum is never the wrong ping?
L348[08:27:46] <TheKosmonaut> Well this
museum would be, it was the "train museum"
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L350[08:28:19] <Rokker> TheKosmonaut:
transit, is that you?
L351[08:28:42] <TheKosmonaut> Nah, in my
defense, I took my boss' kids to go see
L352[08:30:24] <Rokker> TheKosmonaut:
wounds pretty similar to something transit would say
L353[08:30:50] <TheKosmonaut>
Alright
L354[08:30:58] <TheKosmonaut> ;seen
Transitbiker
L355[08:30:58] <kmath> TheKosmonaut:
transitbiker
(transitbiker!~transitbi@pool-98-115-189-119.phlapa.fios.verizon.net)
was last seen quitting in somewhere at 2018-03-24 16:53:19
+0000
L356[08:31:43] <marcus> ;seen marcus
L357[08:31:43] <kmath> marcus: marcus
(marcus!marcus@anime-was-a-mistake.com) was last seen posting in
#KSPOfficial at 2018-04-05 13:31:42 +0000
L358[08:31:49] <marcus> that's now!
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L360[08:32:50] <Rokker> marcus:
anime-was-a-mistake.com
L361[08:32:53] <Rokker> nice
L362[08:33:06] <Rokker> ?
L363[08:33:54] <marcus>
kerbalspaceprogram.com was taken
L364[08:34:35] <APlayer> What about
marcuspace.com?
L365[08:34:49] <marcus> or
marcus.space
L367[08:35:39] <APlayer> Woops,
Chrome
L368[08:36:22] <APlayer> I typed the URL
in the address bar to check if that's a thing, saw that it was not
and copied it here, but Chrome extended it to a full URL
L369[08:36:32] <APlayer> I typed the
domain*
L370[08:36:41] <marcus> or
kerbalspacepogrom.com, but that might not be as cool
L371[08:37:09] <marcus> :(
L372[08:37:44] <marcus> the darkest part
of the kerbal history, not to be discussed lightly.
L373[08:38:59] <marcus> I'm happy with
anime-was-a-mistake, though. Made some of my friends rather
mad
L374[08:39:12] <marcus> For some reason
they didn't want email addresses
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L387[09:29:11] <Lyneira> Yay, kopernicus
update for 1.4!
L388[09:29:22] <Mat2ch> I want an RSS
update...
L389[09:30:09] <Althego> norbi update :)
(this would be too long to explain)
L390[09:30:24] <Deddly> Mat2ch, RSS only
just got updated to 1.3, didn't it?
L391[09:30:32] <Althego> lol
L392[09:30:56] <APlayer> I used some
unofficial recompile for a whole while now
L393[09:31:04] <Fluburtur> I have to learn
to play musics that I have to play tomorrow but im playing war
thunder instead
L394[09:31:13] <Fluburtur> I might be a
lost cause
L395[09:31:40] <Althego> we know that
already
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L397[09:32:10] <APlayer> Also, Hello,
Deddly
L398[09:32:17] <Deddly> Hello,
APlayer
L399[09:32:21] <Deddly> hi Mod9000
L400[09:32:22] <Mod9000> How are
things?
L401[09:32:27] <Deddly> Great thanks
L402[09:32:30] <Althego> advanced
logic
L403[09:32:38] <Deddly> Oh, very
L404[09:33:43] <Mat2ch> Deddly: afaik it
never made 1.3. There was an unofficial DLL, which made it work,
but I want to use CKAN, because I'm a lazy person
L405[09:34:01] <Deddly> Mat2ch, it's only
just released
L406[09:34:52] <Mat2ch> oh, ok
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L408[09:35:24] <Althego> ais the kraken
also released?
L409[09:35:42] <Mat2ch> shouldn't be too
hard to port it to 1.4
L410[09:35:50] <Mat2ch> since no major
physics changes or else was done
L411[09:37:06] <Mat2ch> Deddly: thank
you
L412[09:38:06] <Deddly> Mat2ch, you're
welcome :). I'm not sure if a change to the new Unity engine
affects mod ports, though
L413[09:38:11] <Deddly> (for 1.4.x
L414[09:38:13] <Deddly> )
L415[09:38:43] <Mat2ch> well, RSS is a
pretty huge mod, so I fear it does
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L425[10:05:49] <ve2dmn> good morning
L426[10:06:04] <APlayer> Good
evening!
L427[10:12:15] <ve2dmn> Already? Time fly
so fast!
L428[10:12:55] <Althego> hehe
L429[10:13:01] <Althego> earth rotates so
fast :)
L430[10:14:10] <ve2dmn> maybe I should get
breakfast
L432[10:15:44] <kmath> YouTube - UN HOMME
PRESSE (Bass Cover)- Noir désir by Machinagroove's BassCovers
L433[10:17:01] <Mat2ch> I wonder how ckan
handles timeouts... I will soon find out. Or not.
L436[10:17:31] <kmath> YouTube - BABYMETAL
- Catch Me If You Can「かくれんぼ」Live Combination(Inazuma fes）
L437[10:17:50] <Mat2ch> I'm afraid
now
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L439[10:18:01] <Mat2ch> no, I'm
frightend.
L441[10:19:21] <kmath> YouTube - Nikon
P900 debunks flat earth again - Mirrored with permission
L442[10:20:56] <Fluburtur> Mat2ch this is
pretty sick
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L444[10:23:25] <Mat2ch> Looks like
spacedock is down :(
L445[10:25:16] <Althego> no, the enemy's
gate is down :)
L446[10:25:42] <Mat2ch> now it's loading.
But verrrrry slowly
L447[10:25:50] <Mat2ch> takes ages to
load
L448[10:25:52] <ve2dmn> Mat2ch: stuff
happens
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L451[10:28:10] <ve2dmn> Mat2ch: maybe try
IPv6? it's easy, just type 2a01:4f8:160:9023:0:0:0:2
L452[10:28:18] <Althego> hehe
L453[10:28:27] <Mat2ch> *sigh* now I have
to run everything again in ckan. And it takes ages :|
L454[10:28:49] <Mat2ch> I click on the box
in front of Real Solar System, it takes ages to load :|
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L459[10:34:24] <Althego> yes, the favorite
camera of flat earthers
L460[10:34:39] <Althego> and therefore
also of anti flat earthers
L462[10:36:43] <Althego> yeah?
L463[10:36:51] <Fluburtur> yeah
L464[10:37:18] <ve2dmn> "Current
Owner : There are Many Owners of the P900 as there are Many
P900s"
L465[10:37:35] <ve2dmn> not 100% true. One
could own more then 1
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L467[10:37:54] <Althego> hehe, i watch
reds rhetoric, wolfie6020 and soundly
L469[10:41:00] <Althego> cd -
L470[10:41:08] <kubi> bah
L471[10:41:13] <kubi> wrong window
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L476[10:44:54] <Althego> that is an other
command
L477[10:45:12] <ve2dmn> my favorite is
'sl'
L478[10:45:52] <Althego> is that an
ls?
L479[10:46:00] <Althego> but dc
exists
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L481[10:46:47] <ve2dmn> sudo apt-get
install sl
L482[10:47:08] <ve2dmn> The people who
speak Japanese will understand the joke
L483[10:47:29] <Fluburtur> I don't really
understand cameras that need like 20mp to make 1080p video
L484[10:47:42] <Fluburtur> mine has barely
10 and often looks better
L485[10:51:52] <Althego> so this is a joke
command
L486[10:53:22] <ve2dmn> Althego: kind of
like 'cow-say'
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L494[10:59:12] <Guest11877> hi?
L495[10:59:43] <Althego> probably
L496[10:59:56] <Althego> but i dont dare
to excite the bot
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L498[11:00:18] <Guest11877> what
bot?
L499[11:00:27] <Althego> mod9000
L500[11:00:49] <Guest11877> does he
talk?
L501[11:00:59] <Guest11877> hello
Mod9000
L502[11:01:00] <Mod9000> How are
things?
L503[11:01:22] <Guest11877> Mod9000
Hillary or Trump?
L504[11:01:28] <Althego> not here
L505[11:01:38] <Althego> apolitical and
non cursing channel
L506[11:02:02] <Guest11877> I'm just
curious how clever this bot is
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L508[11:02:08] <Althego> not really
L509[11:02:16] <Guest11877> doesn't seem
like it does much
L510[11:02:38] <Guest11877> a channel i
use to go on, the bot could hold conversations and would respond to
questions like the one i said
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L512[11:02:46] <Mat2ch> ok, I know where
my problem is: Mono in Debian is too old :|
L513[11:02:55] <Guest11877> the guy who
made it was like autistic coding genius
L514[11:03:34] <Guest11877> why do
politics upset people?
L515[11:04:02] <Guest11877> all politics
are is how we pay for healthcare and can women abort their
children... that's all nonsense who cares
L516[11:04:58] <Guest11877> people who are
political have no life so they latch onto this old institution and
try to shape it the way they see fit as if it will make their life
important but in reality they are worthless and politics is for
retards
L517[11:05:39] <Guest11877> MAGA MAGA MAGA
HILDEBEAST DID 9/11 GO TRUMP 2020 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
FOOLED YOU!!! IM A TRUMPER!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA
L518[11:05:47] <ve2dmn> Guest11877: since
this channel is official, KSP does not want politics discussed
here
L519[11:05:56] <Guest11877> all you idiots
should vote TRUMP!!!! in 2020
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L521[11:06:09] <Guest11877> DONT VOTE FOR
OBUMMER SUCCESSORS HAHAHAHAHA
L522[11:06:11] <ve2dmn> mods?
please?
L523[11:06:17] <Guest11877> SHUT
UP!!!!
L524[11:06:21] <SnoopJeDi> Guest11877,
this isn't a political channel
L525[11:06:30] <Guest11877> just go on a
different web page you dont have to read you loser
L526[11:06:45] <Guest11877> nobody was
even talking before i got here and now you have something to
say
L527[11:06:52] <Guest11877> oh pipe down
and go back to ignoring the channel
L528[11:07:02] <Guest11877> MAGA MAGA
MAGA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
L529[11:07:20] <Guest11877> I am here
talking to myself, nobody was even here before me so shut your
trump loving mouth
L530[11:07:20] <ve2dmn> APlayer, would you
do the honour?
L531[11:07:37] <Guest11877> ve2dmn i am
talking alone why are you bothering me
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L533[11:07:53] <APlayer> Thanks for the
highlight
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L535[11:08:06] <APlayer> (Sorry for not
doing it earlier)
L536[11:08:06] <ve2dmn> You were the last
mod to talk
L537[11:09:10] <Fluburtur> I liked the
"allah is doing" guy better
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L539[11:09:50] <Althego> yes i kind of
liked that
L540[11:09:59] <APlayer> Well, now,
seriously. All the fun happens when I am either not online, AFK or
at least not at all looking at my IRC tab
L541[11:11:46] <APlayer> Also, I only now
got to appreciate the specimen of Canadian politeness I received.
:D
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L543[11:12:39] <ve2dmn> APlayer: Thank
you
L544[11:12:51] <APlayer> No, thank
you
L545[11:13:07] <APlayer> This should have
been my task, and I was on duty and kind of missed it
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L547[11:17:03] <ve2dmn> time to /clear I
guess
L548[11:17:12] <APlayer> Does that do
things?
L549[11:17:17] <ve2dmn> try it
L550[11:17:20] <Althego> it does
L551[11:17:30] <APlayer> Ooh
L552[11:17:40] <APlayer> But that only has
effect for me, right?
L553[11:17:44] <ve2dmn> yes
L554[11:17:47] <Althego> of course
L555[11:17:51] <ve2dmn> clears the local
buffer
L556[11:17:51] <Althego> there is no
history in irc
L557[11:17:52] <APlayer> Alright
L558[11:18:14] <ve2dmn> My ZNC keeps 100%
of history, so my various client don't have to
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L560[11:25:36] <Guest05915> hi?
L561[11:25:45] <ve2dmn> wb
L562[11:25:46] <Althego> not again
L563[11:25:50] <Guest05915> HAHAHA
L564[11:26:00] <APlayer> I'm here.
:-)
L565[11:26:11] <Guest05915> i'll be good
:)
L566[11:26:27] <ve2dmn> rules are in the
topic
L567[11:26:46] <Guest05915> have you ever
seen fear and loathing?
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L569[11:27:07] <Guest05915> i feel like im
in the part where they are trying to convince the guy to let them
watch the show
L570[11:27:42] <Guest05915> he reluctantly
lets them in and they literally have to kick them out after 20
seconds for causing a scene
L571[11:27:43] <APlayer> I just wanted to
let you know that your behaviour from earlier is not compatible
with the way we'd like our channel to be kept. We'd appreciate if
you could take a few minutes to read the rules as linked in the
topic, and follow them in future.
L572[11:28:06] <Guest05915> I hear ya, i
was just being goofy
L573[11:28:37] <APlayer> Alright, no
worries. Thanks. :-)
L574[11:29:33] <Fluburtur> that sounds
like a bad excuse
L575[11:30:21] <APlayer> Mistakes happen.
We shall give this person a second chance.
L576[11:30:54] <Guest05915> so what should
we do Fluburtur about it
L578[11:31:06] <Guest05915> should he be
punished?
L579[11:31:43] <Althego> by the pun-isher.
but sadly red5 is not here anymore
L580[11:31:57] <Fluburtur> one day he
shall return
L581[11:32:01] <Fluburtur> to save us
all
L582[11:32:11] <APlayer> He will come
back, and this time he will be stronger!
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L585[11:34:42] <Althego> ... have long
held the prophecy, that a man would come...
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L587[11:36:11] <Guest05915> one who
creates an anomaly in the code and can shape the matrix to his will
even though the choices he makes are preprogrammed and there is
nothing he can do to stop his opposite that tries to balance the
anomaly in the quation, they said that architect scene was
confusing but it is pretty straightforward... matrix 2 gets a
little too harsh critici
L588[11:36:11] <Guest05915> sm if u ask
me, it's not a bad movie just drawn out a little
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L590[11:36:41] <Althego> no, other
movie
L591[11:36:55] <Guest05915> oh
punisher?
L592[11:37:19] <Althego> ok, mine was fro
mdune
L593[11:37:31] <Guest05915> ah i need to
see that
L595[11:39:32] <Althego> hawking has
nothing to do with mars, but i guess it is to honour him
L596[11:39:58] <APlayer> Nothing to do
with Mars? But Mars is slowly evaporating due to Hawking
radiation!
L597[11:40:11] <ConductorCat> Hawking was
secretly a Martian.
L598[11:40:33] <ve2dmn> they also
published most of the source code (under what licence, I don't
know)
L599[11:40:41] <Draconiator> So apparently
Fraps doesn't like dosbox when it switches modes. Always crashes,
heh
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L601[11:41:40] <ve2dmn> dosbox has an
internal video recorder (but cannot stream)
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L606[11:55:37] <Guest05915> Fraps is
craps... use something like sharex (iirc the name)
L607[11:56:39] <Draconiator> I gave Da Box
64MB RAM and 50HZ CPU....is that overkill for DOS games?
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L609[11:57:42] <UmbralRaptop> Some games
do well with that much / can use it, others not so much.
L610[11:58:05] <Althego> 50 hz?
L611[11:58:29] <UmbralRaptop> I assume 50
MHz (or rather 5e7 cycles)
L612[11:59:02] <Althego> that is still not
much
L613[11:59:19] <Althego> even for
something like descent
L614[11:59:21] <Draconiator> 50MHZ sorry
lol
L615[12:00:23] <Draconiator> yeah I notice
poor framerates on Quake...but somehow it reminds me of playing at
high school after hours in the computer lab so eh...
L616[12:00:40] <Althego> hehe
L617[12:01:20] <UmbralRaptop> Yeah, also
make sure quake is using an emulation of a Pentium,
L618[12:01:42] <UmbralRaptop> (or grab a
source port)
L619[12:02:00] <Althego> id has a history
of releasing the source
L620[12:02:06] <Althego> of old
games
L621[12:02:22] <Guest05915> these mods all
use .net right?
L622[12:02:40] <Althego> or rather the
games uses it
L623[12:02:45] <Althego> *game
L624[12:03:19] <Guest05915> i have written
.net mods for games written in c... u just need to wrap the c
code
L625[12:03:47] <Guest05915> gta iv for
example
L626[12:04:26] <UmbralRaptop> Not exactly
.net, since they work on linux and osx.
L627[12:05:55] <Guest05915> the point of
of .net being portable is that the cil is the same between
different cpu
L628[12:07:40] <AlonzoTG> this bug is
driving me crazy. =|
L629[12:07:56] <AlonzoTG> I'm sending up a
replacement ISRU module to my Gilly base,
L630[12:08:30] <AlonzoTG> but I can dock
it but then I can't go to space center or do anything after that
because: EXC 11:43:39.065] NullReferenceException: Object reference
not set to an instance of an object
L631[12:08:30] <AlonzoTG>
Game.Updated (GameScenes
startSceneOverride)
L632[12:08:30] <AlonzoTG>
KerbalRoster.ValidateAssignments
(.Game st)
L633[12:09:31] <Guest05915> that's not the
actual error message
L634[12:09:52] <Mat2ch> Ah, RSS+RO. 20000
patches :D
L635[12:09:59] <Althego> hehe
L636[12:10:09] <Althego> ultrasound load
patches /
L637[12:10:14] <AlonzoTG> I tamed my
install down from 30,000 to about 22,000
L638[12:10:15] <Althego> (rotating
stick)
L639[12:11:53] <Mat2ch> and it's taking
ages to load now...
L640[12:12:47] <AlonzoTG> yeah, mine feels
like about fifteen minutes,
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L642[12:13:17] <AlonzoTG> and it
effectively crashes when I try to visit most any of my manned
missions. =(((((
L643[12:15:02] <CaptainSkwidz> all I need
to make a part which produces thrust in a plusgin is to impliment
PartModule and IThrustProvider and add some code right?
L644[12:15:05] <Guest05915> the author
needs to check for null reference then in that method
L645[12:15:40] <Guest05915> do u have the
source code for the mod?
L646[12:16:08] <UmbralRaptop> Guest05915:
check the mod's thread on the forum?
L647[12:16:15] <AlonzoTG> I'm pretty damn
certain it's stock, I do not know of any mods that affect the
assignment of kerbals.
L648[12:16:25] <CaptainSkwidz>
plugin*
L649[12:17:36] <AlonzoTG> the save looks
pretty sane, the list of kerbals seems reasonable enough, the
problem is probably in one of the vessels, the most suspicious of
which is the Duna base.
L650[12:17:41] <AlonzoTG> I also have that
Gilly base,
L651[12:17:54] <AlonzoTG> A very long term
rig that's currently at Jool,
L652[12:18:26] <Guest05915> does it say
what dll that error is from?
L653[12:18:29] <AlonzoTG> (it was
constructed at Minmus and over the course of 28 years has slowly
done a grand tour outwards and is now at Jool)
L654[12:18:32] <Guest05915> do you have
the entire error?
L655[12:18:39] <AlonzoTG> Well I have a
stack trace.
L656[12:18:43] <AlonzoTG> that's the top
of that trace.
L657[12:18:48] <CaptainSkwidz> so is that
all I need to do? Besides assets
L658[12:19:00] <Guest05915> this is not a
valid method signature... KerbalRoster.ValidateAssignments (.Game
st)
L659[12:19:05] <Guest05915> .Game
L660[12:19:18] <Guest05915> i was
wondering if you copied it
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L662[12:20:45] <Guest05915> also the stack
trace would show every wrapped method and you would see it go into
.net dlls, that's not complete
L663[12:21:33] <Guest05915> i doubt it is
a bug in vanilla too btw\
L664[12:21:46] <Guest05915> more like you
have a mod that is causing a conflict
L665[12:22:34] <CaptainSkwidz> I guess
I'll accept the non-answers as a yes
L666[12:22:37] <Guest05915> an app is a
bunch of moving parts and if you set a value thinking you know what
u are doing but you can affect other parts of the game
indirectly
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L668[12:22:45] <Guest05915> i just doubt a
squad dev is that big a noob
L669[12:22:51] <AlonzoTG> just did a
string search from the root path, here's a list of what references
it: KSP_Data/globalgamemanagers.assets
KSP_Data/Managed/Assembly-CSharp.dll
GameData/TextureReplacerReplaced/Plugins/TextureReplacerReplaced.dll
GameData/WildBlueIndustries/Pathfinder/Plugins/Pathfinder.dll
GameData/DarkMultiPlayer/Plugins/DarkMultiPlayer.dll
L670[12:22:51] <AlonzoTG>
GameData/WildBlueIndustries/000WildBlueTools/Plugins/WildBlueTools.dll
L671[12:22:51] <AlonzoTG>
GameData/kOS/Plugins/kOS.dll
L672[12:22:51] <AlonzoTG>
L673[12:22:59] <AlonzoTG>
GameData/ContractConfigurator/ContractConfigurator.dll
L674[12:23:30] <Guest05915> looks like a
mod is responsible
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L676[12:25:10] <Guest05915> mods call game
dlls so the stacktrace will show the method calls from the mod and
those methods will call kerbal methods and kerbal dlls will call
whatever dlls they made and .net dlss and unity etc
L677[12:25:14] <Guest05915> dlls
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L680[12:27:11] <Guest05915> do you have a
screen shot of the exact error showing the stack trace?
L681[12:27:21] <Guest05915> is it an
ingame thing or a log that was created?
L682[12:29:59] <AlonzoTG> I'm reading the
log in realtime.
L683[12:30:11] <AlonzoTG> I wish KSP-AVC
wasn't broken. =(((((
L684[12:30:11] <UmbralRaptop> pastebin
it?
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L686[12:30:19] <AlonzoTG> my log is many
megabytes.
L687[12:30:37] <Althego> hah, only
megabytes?
L688[12:30:44] <AlonzoTG> Anyway, just
bumped contract configurator, will look at what else can be
bumped.
L689[12:33:58] *
AlonzoTG is about half way through loading the game, puts on some
Gene Kerman brew...
L690[12:36:53] <Guest05915> you just have
to paste the stack trace
L691[12:36:59] <Guest05915> the actual
error
L692[12:37:03] <Guest05915> not the
log
L693[12:37:31] <Guest05915> it's what a
few hundred characters?
L694[12:37:43] <AlonzoTG> I also have a
crash to desktop bug that is annoying the hell out of me, seems to
be at the runtime level, no consistent C# stack trace.
L695[12:39:01] <Guest05915> CTD is
probably a memory issue with mods although if you use 64 bit that
would help but if some bozo is writing code and being inefficient
with resources it can add up
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L697[12:39:44] <AlonzoTG> yeah, machine is
32gb, with texture replacer the game starts at about 9.5 and grows
to maybe 16-20 before having problems.
L698[12:39:44] <Guest05915> especially
loading textures
L699[12:40:11] <AlonzoTG> << gentoo
linux, BTW
L700[12:40:30] <Guest05915> if you are
loading tons of high res textures into memory that can create
problems although 64 bit is supposed to handle that... not
sure
L701[12:41:04] <Guest05915> i guess you
can just end up out of memory before you run out of addresses
hehe
L702[12:41:45] <AlonzoTG> The biggest one
is station parts redone, or something like that, about 450mb on
disk, gorgeous though.
L704[12:41:52] <ve2dmn> Scary
L705[12:42:02] <Althego> lol
L706[12:42:04] <Guest05915> haha
nice
L707[12:42:13] <Guest05915> i like the
lolcode language
L708[12:42:16] <ve2dmn> Althego: no,
lolcode is something else
L709[12:42:18] <Guest05915> reminds me of
that
L710[12:42:24] <Guest05915> oh lol
L711[12:42:58] <Guest05915> that is pretty
funny though
L712[12:43:06] <AlonzoTG> ok, I loaded
game, immediately tracking stationed myself over to my gilly base,
decoupled a glitched ISRU module, now can't switch to the new ISRU
module which is basically on a collision course.
L713[12:43:14] <Guest05915> there are some
crazy languages... i think one language i saw only uses one
character
L714[12:43:30] <Guest05915> or a few it is
just a bunch of operator symbols and looks cryptic
L715[12:44:06] <Althego> but these are all
for fun only. esoteric languages
L716[12:44:34] <Guest05915> yeah i doubt
anyone actually uses them
L717[12:44:49] <Guest05915> i think there
are a few eaxample apps on the lolcode site oi forget
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L719[12:46:14] <AlonzoTG> got a paster
that doesn't go 502 on me?
L720[12:46:58] <Guest05915> ah it was
called brainfuck language
L721[12:47:10] <Guest05915> that's the one
with all operators
L722[12:47:48] <Guest05915> Helloworld in
brainfuck:
L723[12:47:50] <Guest05915>
++++++++++[>+++++++>++++++++++>+++>+<<<<-]>++.>+.+++++++..+++.>++.<<+++++++++++++++.>.+++.------.--------.>+.>.
L724[12:47:50] <Althego> unfortunately
part of that name is not allowed here
L725[12:48:03] <Althego> whitespace has
only whitespaces
L726[12:48:14] <Guest05915> ah ok
L727[12:48:14] <APlayer> The language
which' name should not be written out. :-)
L728[12:48:22] <Guest05915> gotcha
L729[12:48:42] <Althego> piet and mondrian
:)
L730[12:49:36] <Althego> and let's not
forget about intercal, the language that exists for the funnny
manual
L731[12:50:01] <Guest05915> i was just
reading about intercal lol
L734[12:50:38] <Guest05915> that piet
language is pretty wild
L735[12:50:56] <Althego> yes malbolge is
the must useless esoteric programming language
L736[12:51:06] <Althego> (ada follows as
close second)
L737[12:51:42] <Guest05915> well my stupid
job blocked that paste site if you wanna put it here i'll look at
it...
https://pastebin.com/
L738[12:52:09] <Althego> screenshot it and
put it in the ksp discord :)
L740[12:59:02] <Guest05915> the method
signatures are weird in that log...
KerbalRoster.ValidateAssignments (.Game st) ... why do method
parameter types start with the access operator? '.Game'
L741[12:59:18] <Guest05915> shouldnt it
show the full name of the type?
L742[12:59:40] <AlonzoTG> no idea.
L743[13:00:10] <AlonzoTG> gonna try to
land that ISRU module away from the base so the save will be stable
instead of locked on a collision course.
L744[13:02:12] <Guest05915> oh i was just
asking anyone who uses c#
L745[13:02:29] <Guest05915> i use c# but i
have never seen a method signature like that lol
L746[13:02:42] <AlonzoTG> I'm mostly java
though nobody will hire me, DON motherfucking corleone couldn't get
anyone to hire me. =(
L747[13:02:56] <Guest05915> hahaha
L748[13:03:14] <Guest05915> yeah the truth
is programmers are a dime a dozen and you can teach a monkey to
code
L749[13:03:38] <Guest05915> in the early
2000s late 90s being a programmer was something to be haha
L750[13:03:44] <AlonzoTG> arguably true,
but then how common are GOOD programmers?
L751[13:03:54] <AlonzoTG> =~(
L752[13:04:02] <Guest05915> now 12 year
olds make 5k a month selling stupid apple games with ad rev
L753[13:04:12] <APlayer> Uh,
Alonzo...
L754[13:04:18] <Guest05915> good
programmers are usually older
L755[13:04:55] <AlonzoTG> I'm 40. =(
L756[13:05:17] <ve2dmn> More then 28? too
old!
L757[13:05:26] <Guest05915> i think you
just gotta make a stupid app that generates ads
L758[13:05:38] <AlonzoTG> I didn't escape
college until I was like 33
L759[13:05:39] <Guest05915> get a mac and
apple x code whatever it is called lol
L760[13:05:46] <AlonzoTG> had some jobs
during that period though.
L761[13:05:46] <ve2dmn> Companies want a
21year old with 15 years of experience in everything
L762[13:05:51] <Guest05915> haha
yeah
L763[13:06:03] <Guest05915> meaning you
had to have been hacking your nintendo at 10 to get hired
L764[13:06:09] <ve2dmn> AlonzoTG: I'm
still in University
L765[13:06:18] <Althego> technically you
can have 15 years of programming experience as a 21
L766[13:06:24] <Guest05915> true
nowadays
L767[13:06:37] <AlonzoTG> I need a
godfather.
L768[13:06:46] <Guest05915> .net for
example doesnt require much knowledge about how computers or memory
works
L769[13:07:51] <Guest05915> do you know if
this is from a mod? FlightGlobals.setActiveVessel
L770[13:07:55] <ve2dmn> Althouhg... I work
here now
L771[13:08:07] <AlonzoTG> I'll string
search that.
L772[13:08:09] <Guest05915> well that's
some experience
L773[13:08:12] <ve2dmn> FlightGlobals are
not from a mod
L774[13:08:25] <Guest05915> that is
improper naming convention
L775[13:08:38] <Guest05915> one thing that
annoys me is people who dont use .net naming convention haha
L776[13:08:53] <Guest05915> bad
squad
L777[13:09:06] <AlonzoTG> that looks just
fine to me...
L778[13:09:27] <Guest05915> well in .net
method names should always be in PascalCase not camelCase
L779[13:09:37] <Guest05915> regardless of
acess modifier
L781[13:09:39] <AlonzoTG> =P
L782[13:09:56] <Guest05915> lol
L783[13:09:58] <AlonzoTG> in most
languages methods always are lower case while classes are upper
case.
L784[13:10:17] <Guest05915> that page is
triggering my ocd lol
L785[13:10:26] <Guest05915> the first
method is add...
L786[13:10:30] <Guest05915> the next one
is Add...
L787[13:10:40] <APlayer>
Underloading?
L788[13:10:45] <Guest05915> if i worked at
squad they would hate me lol
L789[13:11:10] <AlonzoTG> they are hiring,
I sent them my resume, not that I've had work in six motherfucking
years. =(
L790[13:11:16] <Guest05915> static void
addPhysicalObject (physicalObject pObject) should be static void
AddPhysicalObject (PhysicalObject pObject)
L791[13:11:23] <APlayer> Okay, guys, now
seriously
L792[13:11:43] <Guest05915> tell them
there naming convention needs fixing and you will do it for them
lol
L793[13:11:46] <APlayer> I hear your
frustration, but please stop using inappropriate terms
L794[13:11:51] <ve2dmn> AlonzoTG:
rules?
L795[13:12:05] <Guest05915> no
cursing
L796[13:12:27] <Althego> no curses, just
ncurses :)
L797[13:12:45] <AlonzoTG> oh god,
L798[13:12:48] <Guest05915> hehe
L799[13:12:50] <AlonzoTG> don't get my
started on ncurses.
L800[13:13:20] <Guest05915> well do you
guys know who made this method... KerbalRoster.ValidateAssignments
(.Game st)
L801[13:13:31] <Guest05915> is that from
the flight thing?
L802[13:13:39] <Guest05915> oh wait
nm
L803[13:14:03] <Guest05915> that is the
method using a null object so whoever wrote that dll needs a few
more lines of code im guessing
L804[13:14:42] <Althego> the question is
rather why is that null in the first place
L805[13:14:43] <AlonzoTG> hmm, maybe
modular flight integrator? that's the only mod I know of off the
top of my head which might do that.
L806[13:15:09] <Guest05915> but if another
mod is causing an indirect conflict it could be that method is
actually fine and someone is doing something unexpected with the
values used inside the method
L807[13:16:10] <Guest05915> yeah
validating assignemnts sounds like figuring out what kerbals can be
displayed as active or something and for some reason a kerbal
doesnt exist? i am totally guessing
L808[13:16:36] <ve2dmn> if only you could
git-bisect that error
L809[13:17:30] <Althego> the solution is
always simple, stop using mods
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L811[13:18:07] <ve2dmn> But then you would
have Vanilla KSP...
L812[13:18:14] <Althego> and it would
work
L813[13:18:16] <Althego> (mostly)
L814[13:18:23] <ve2dmn> How can you design
without a dV indicator?
L815[13:18:40] <AlonzoTG> yeah, at least
kerbal engineer,
L816[13:18:56] <Althego> i install ker.
but i have done all jool moons mission without ker too
L817[13:18:59] <Guest05915> it is kinda
ridiculous how the game requires you to download stuff that
calculates important info about your craft
L818[13:19:03] <kuzetsa> the old school
way: manually calculate wet/dry mass for stages?
L819[13:19:07] <oren> ve2dmn: you can
calculate delta v with a calculator
L820[13:19:18] <Althego> it is literally a
single formula
L821[13:19:20] <Guest05915> you could but
you shouldnt have to
L822[13:19:25] <ve2dmn> I can play
Stellaris or Minecraft without mods.... but KSP is KER-enabled
before I run it the first time
L823[13:19:26] <Althego> and there is mass
indication in the hangar
L824[13:19:30] <Guest05915> it should be
in the game gui then
L825[13:19:36] <Guest05915> if it is a
simple equation
L826[13:19:40] <Guest05915> squad should
just add it
L827[13:19:46] <Althego> i remember when i
used to design eve ascent vehicle all based on the mass indication
in map view
L828[13:19:48] <Althego> lot simpler
now
L829[13:19:53] <ve2dmn> The rocket
equation?
L831[13:20:19] <Althego> the equation is
simple, what the actual isps and masses are, are not
L832[13:20:22] <Althego> because of
staging
L833[13:20:26] <ve2dmn> ^
L834[13:20:30] <Althego> even ker
messesthem up sometimes
L835[13:20:38] <kuzetsa> Althego: true -
it's a hassle to drain/un-drain fuel in the VAB / SPH though (to
find out the mass of a stage) and for some vessels, detaching a
stage so you can check the mass of an upper/lower stage is hard to
put back cleanly
L836[13:20:42] <Guest05915> i design based
on aesthetics then i see where it goes and i decide what changes
are needed after testing lol
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L838[13:21:02] <Althego> in reality it is
reversed
L839[13:21:07] <ve2dmn> I design for my
kOS scripts
L840[13:22:10] <Guest05915> what is
kos?
L841[13:22:18] <APlayer> Oohh, there we
go
L842[13:22:19] <ve2dmn> would it be
possible to put wings on the first stage and have it glide back to
a runway?
L843[13:22:29] <APlayer> kOS is the single
best mod made for KSP :-)
L844[13:22:40] <ve2dmn> APlayer: I'll
leave you the Honour
L845[13:22:49] <Althego> again? :)
L846[13:22:52] <APlayer> What,
again?
L847[13:22:57] <APlayer> LOL, I was
ninja'd
L848[13:23:03] <ve2dmn> ...of explaining
kOS
L849[13:23:18] <Althego> again with the
honour
L850[13:23:28] <APlayer> Oh man, that was
a proper LOL
L851[13:23:42] <Guest05915> i just googled
it, so I assume it functions different from MJ autopilot?
L852[13:23:48] <Guest05915> i have only
used MJ before
L853[13:23:49] <APlayer> It does
L854[13:23:54] <Althego> it is not an
autopilot, it is a scripting language
L855[13:23:58] <APlayer> Because you
program it yourself
L856[13:24:03] <Althego> you can build
your autopilot
L857[13:24:09] <Althego> or get one
L858[13:24:16] <Guest05915> oh so you can
write like your own macro for controlling the rocket?
L859[13:24:27] <Althego> for any operation
basically
L860[13:24:38] <Althego> with arbitrary
intelligence
L862[13:24:44] <APlayer> ^
L863[13:24:53] <Guest05915> so you can
check what speed and elevation bla bla etc and make decisions? that
sounds pretty cool
L864[13:25:00] <Althego> launch,
rendezvous and dock all by itself for example
L865[13:25:15] <Guest05915> i'll have to
try it when i play next
L866[13:25:18] <ve2dmn> I still can't
quite write a docking script
L867[13:25:26] <APlayer> But it has a
learning curve, before you get too excited about
all-automation
L868[13:25:35] <ve2dmn> I was planning an
asteroid rendez-vous one first
L869[13:25:56] <Guest05915> that looks
like a weird mix of vb and c
L870[13:26:04] <Guest05915> what is that
language?
L871[13:26:06] <APlayer> I am currently
writing a RSS Falcon 9 style launch and landing script. I started
writing it last year
L872[13:26:09] <Althego> its own
language
L873[13:26:19] <Guest05915> is that what
ksp uses then?
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L875[13:26:22] <Althego> no
L876[13:26:28] <Althego> this is what the
mod implement
L877[13:26:30] <ve2dmn> if you want to
write in python, you should kRPC then
L878[13:26:31] <Althego> s
L879[13:26:41] <Guest05915> oh that is the
code you use in the game
L880[13:27:01] <Althego> it even gives you
a terminal screen
L881[13:27:07] <Guest05915> pretty
cool
L882[13:27:15] <Guest05915> must have
taken a while to code that
L883[13:27:18] <Draconiator> Hmmm.
L884[13:27:27] <APlayer> Not only a
terminal screen, but also a terminal velocity
L885[13:27:28] <ve2dmn> yeah... it's made
to look like a first generation language.... COBOL, Fortran,
Pascal.... that sort of thing
L886[13:27:48] <Guest05915> to wrap every
function write the parser etc basically have to write a
compiler
L887[13:28:04] <ve2dmn> they even have an
assembly you can write to
L888[13:28:04] <APlayer> It is a
compiler
L889[13:28:14] <APlayer> An
assembly?
L890[13:28:14] <Guest05915> haha
yeah
L891[13:28:25] <Althego> so it compiles to
bytecode
L892[13:28:29] <Althego> ?
L893[13:28:30] <Guest05915> i will test it
out
L894[13:28:39] <APlayer> Althego: Kind of,
yes
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L896[13:28:48] <Guest05915> well it would
compile to ksp api calls
L897[13:29:03] <Guest05915> it would just
interact with the game engine
L898[13:29:09] <APlayer> It has a compiler
and an interpreter, similar to Java or C++ and co.
L899[13:29:22] <Guest05915> ah yes
interpreter was the word im looking for
L900[13:29:26] <ve2dmn> APlayer: look for
KSM
L901[13:29:32] <ve2dmn> KerboScript
Machine Code
L903[13:30:45] <Althego> actually now that
i am not working in simulation anymore, i could start to use
it
L904[13:30:51] <ve2dmn> it's used with the
'Compile' function to store pre-compiled binaries
L905[13:31:07] <APlayer> Oh, nice
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L908[13:31:24] <Althego> it would give me
an outlet for my unused control engineering
L909[13:31:42] <Althego> it is so rare
that i can use it for anything
L910[13:31:49] <ve2dmn> Althego: you have
a new jorb?
L911[13:31:53] <APlayer> And there is a
way to embed those in an uncompiled script to supplement
unsupported functionality?
L912[13:32:05] <ve2dmn> APlayer: yes
L913[13:32:06] <Althego> since autumn of
2016
L914[13:32:17] <Althego> so not that
new
L915[13:32:20] <APlayer> Double
nice!
L916[13:32:46] <ve2dmn> APlayer: it makes
.ksm files which work like kerboscripts files
L917[13:33:00] <ve2dmn> they are much
smaller too
L918[13:33:13] <APlayer> I meant if I
could type something of the kind by hand and embed it
L919[13:33:20] <ve2dmn> but you don't get
a line number when they crash :D
L920[13:33:56] <ve2dmn> APlayer: or just
call Compile(file.ks) at start
L921[13:34:11] <ve2dmn> you only need to
compile once
L922[13:34:40] <APlayer> Well, yes, but
that does not give me any functional advantage, which is what I am
seeking
L923[13:34:51] <APlayer> kOS does not
expose everything KSP offers
L924[13:35:00] <ve2dmn> it's smaller
L925[13:35:05] <ve2dmn> (and a bit
faster)
L926[13:35:32] <ve2dmn> but you could
write your own Python -> KSM compiler
L927[13:35:32] <APlayer> Most notably, I
severely miss aerodynamic properties of the vessel and surrounding
(and not directly surrounding) atmosphere
L928[13:35:59] <APlayer> Trajectories
makes up in a very limited manner
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L930[13:37:01] <ve2dmn> It would probably
be easier to write your own extention to kOS
L931[13:37:45] <APlayer> I have no idea
about the KSP API, and I found the documentation very lacking
L933[13:38:33] <APlayer> If there was
proper documentation, I'd have used kRPC and written my own mods by
now
L934[13:38:49] <APlayer> In fact, I've
already tried to do the latter, but I horribly failed
L935[13:39:02] <ve2dmn> same... but my
code worked at least :D
L936[13:39:14] <ve2dmn> .... it was
useless, that's all
L937[13:39:23] <APlayer> Test
L938[13:39:28] <APlayer> Woops
L939[13:39:42] <APlayer> IRC client
stopped sending messages for a while
L940[13:39:54] <ve2dmn> We lost the other
kOS players to Factorio :D
L941[13:40:26] <Althego> hehe
L942[13:40:40] <APlayer> Anyway, tell
taniwha & co. that we demand documentation
L943[13:41:23] <AlonzoTG> only thing to do
in factorio is watch stupid iron plates go down conveyors...
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L945[13:43:46] <ve2dmn> And I've since
moved to a combination of Stellaris, Astroneer, Citie:Skyline,
Planetbase....
L946[13:43:56] <Althego> i watched boards
go down conveyors for years. not one i want to do again
L947[13:44:18] <ve2dmn> but now with life,
I might have to take a break from gaming entirely
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L951[13:50:53] <kmath> <cosmos4u>
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Starshot', would produce brighter and tighter beams than…
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L956[14:06:41] <APlayer> UmbralRaptop: I
don't get that last one...
L957[14:07:56] <UmbralRaptop> Wikipedia
including a "normal" description of a scientific subject,
and a math-heavy technical one is really cool.
L958[14:08:38] <APlayer> Humm, I don't
think I've seen such a thing before indeed
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L962[14:17:18] <Olympic1> UmbralRaptop:
Can you block this user on the wiki, he keeps changing `Kerbol` to
`Sunbol` for the last couple of days.
L964[14:19:31] <Althego> hehe
L965[14:19:34] <UmbralRaptop> one
moment
L966[14:19:47] <Althego> not a fault in
the ae-35
L967[14:22:28] <UmbralRaptop> done
L968[14:22:50] <Olympic1> thx
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cubesat?
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L978[14:47:18] <Draconiator> yep lol
L979[14:47:30] <Draconiator> no idea how
much dV it has yet
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L992[15:22:36] <SpektralFyr> welcome
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L996[15:24:45] <Eddi|zuHause> hm, paradox
giving away CK2 for free
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L1000[15:29:10] <kmath> YouTube - Ariane
5 launch on April 5, 2018 (VA242)
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L1003[15:32:21] <Lyneira> Eddi|zuHause:
What is CK2?
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L1005[15:36:15] <Lyneira> Ah, crusader
kings 2... looks like the idea here is to get people to buy the
multitudes of DLC for it
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L1007[15:38:15] <Eddi|zuHause> sure, why
not, though?
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L1013[15:58:00] <ve2dmn> Eddi|zuHause:
CK2 with 0 mods is.... just CK2
L1014[15:58:27] <ve2dmn> But CK2 with 0
DLC is.... not much
L1015[15:59:08] <ve2dmn> (which reminds
me, I had a bet with a friend over where Tiangong-1 would land... I
owe him a CK2 DLC)
L1016[16:02:15] <Eddi|zuHause> well, i
have no clue about the CK2 DLCs...
L1017[16:02:30] <Eddi|zuHause> but i'm
certainly not putting up 140€ upfront before trying the base
game
L1018[16:02:34] <ve2dmn> lol
L1019[16:03:16] <ve2dmn> but, like the
staff at Paradox Podcast said: The base game still gets update. CK2
today is MUCH better then at launch, even without the DLC
L1020[16:03:45] <Eddi|zuHause> anyway,
currently busy trying to squeeze out some happiness out of the
spiritualist faction, while being a materialist empire... not
easy
L1021[16:04:09] <ve2dmn> Stellaris?
L1022[16:04:48] <Lyneira> Could only be
Stellaris :)
L1023[16:05:58] <jgkamat> spiritualists
are so painful if you're materialist :/
L1024[16:06:00] <Lyneira> If any fans of
the New Horizons planet pack are reading, I've managed to get it
working for Kopernicus in KSP 1.4 with a minor config edit so you
can once again run a space program from the moon of a gorgeous blue
gas giant :D
L1025[16:06:22] <Lyneira> description is
in the New Horizons thread on the forums
L1026[16:08:23] <ve2dmn> Eddi|zuHause:
I'm currently trying to play a fanatic pacific empire...
L1027[16:08:30] <ve2dmn> Not easy at
all
L1028[16:09:07] <ve2dmn> Although, one of
my ennemy is the Devouring swarm, so I might just help them kill
everyone else
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L1030[16:09:31] <ve2dmn> Or I might try
the 'insite revilt via too much food' strategy
L1031[16:10:20] <Eddi|zuHause> how does
that work?
L1032[16:10:22] <ve2dmn> You give the AI
food (X per month). The population grows. The AI never build enough
farms. You stop don't renew the trade...
L1033[16:10:39] <ve2dmn> ... famine.
Civil war breaks.
L1034[16:10:53] <ve2dmn> And it ususally
break down A LOT
L1035[16:11:04] <ve2dmn> like, every
planet wind up lacking food
L1036[16:11:31] <ve2dmn> so if you are
lucky, a 10 planet empire breaks down into 10 different
faction
L1037[16:11:52] <ve2dmn> Downside: you
have to over-produce food yourself
L1038[16:11:55] <Eddi|zuHause> and what
then? hope they ask you for protection?
L1039[16:12:01] <ve2dmn> yup
L1040[16:12:12] <ve2dmn> or offer
protectorate status
L1041[16:12:51] <Eddi|zuHause> must get
lucky with the right empire policies, i guess
L1042[16:12:51] <ve2dmn> If you are in a
federation, your allies might take that oppertunity to declare war
and/or annex someone
L1043[16:13:25] <ve2dmn> Or if you are
not fanatic, you can declare a 'liberation war'
L1044[16:13:30] <ve2dmn> (and then annex
them)
L1045[16:13:30] <Eddi|zuHause> i was
trying a xenophobic pacifist empire in my early days
L1046[16:14:22] <Eddi|zuHause> but
without any friends you're just going to get overrun by someone who
outteched you
L1047[16:15:02] <Eddi|zuHause> this time
i'm playing pacifist xenophile materialist
L1048[16:15:22] <ve2dmn> Right now, I
out-food, out-tech and out-unity most of my neighboors
L1049[16:15:27] <ve2dmn> ... but it's
early game
L1050[16:16:04] <Eddi|zuHause> once i
found out how you get subjugation wargoal on anyone, it got a lot
easier :p
L1051[16:16:57] <ve2dmn> I found out that
Fanatic purifier and Devouring swarms simply lose the systems
L1052[16:17:02] <Eddi|zuHause> i just
enforced ideology on someone, but i can't invite him to the
federation yet because they're still at war with someone
L1053[16:17:30] <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, they
need to transfer pops before the other pops die out to keep
them
L1054[16:17:40] <ve2dmn> Btw, that is why
I'm trying the pacifist route... it's going to be a LOT harder
:D
L1055[16:17:55] <Eddi|zuHause> probably
the AI is a bit too dumb to do that
L1056[16:19:00] <ve2dmn> Not just the
planets... when you destroy a starhold, they simply lose the system
and it goes back to 'nobody owns it'
L1058[16:19:50] <kmath> YouTube - Ariane
5 launch on April 5, 2018 (VA242)
L1059[16:20:00] <Eddi|zuHause> haven't
played (with or against) a swarm yet since the 2.0 update
L1060[16:20:52] <ve2dmn> Fluburtur: do
you have a french-language stream?
L1061[16:21:08] <Fluburtur> yeah they
posted another one on their channel
L1062[16:21:52] <ve2dmn> he sounds VERY
french
L1063[16:22:18] <Fluburtur> he is the
frenchiest man there is
L1064[16:22:45] <ve2dmn> at least he does
not make the 'Ze' sound too much
L1065[16:23:17] <Fluburtur> I want that
shirt
L1066[16:25:58] <Fluburtur> I went to the
toilet and now they are talking about local sports
L1067[16:26:28] <ve2dmn> and
communicating by flag
L1068[16:26:40] <ve2dmn> and he use the
term 'Ameridians'
L1069[16:26:51] <ve2dmn> first time I
hear that in English
L1070[16:29:20] <Fluburtur> nice
hypergolic suits
L1071[16:31:27] <ve2dmn> Fluburtur:
launched in the DOM ?
L1072[16:31:42] <Fluburtur> dom?
L1073[16:31:56] <ve2dmn> or is a french
T.O.M. ?
L1074[16:32:04] <ve2dmn> Département
'outre-mer'
L1075[16:32:10] <Fluburtur> idk either of
those
L1076[16:32:26] <ve2dmn> ... I'll check
wikipedia :P
L1077[16:33:12] <Fluburtur> I would like
to see how those fuel couplers work
L1078[16:33:17] <ve2dmn> overseas
department
L1079[16:33:25] <ve2dmn> (Guyane
is)
L1080[16:35:14] <ve2dmn> very
cloudy
L1081[16:36:04] <Mat2ch> Well... it is
harder to get into orbit in RSS... needs more planning
L1082[16:36:10] <Mat2ch> or a better
ascend. :D
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L1085[16:42:22] <ve2dmn> marcus: was it
you who mentioned Planetbase a few days ago?
L1086[16:42:35] <marcus> ve2dmn: I don't
think so, but that's a fun game
L1087[16:43:12] <ve2dmn> in a comparison
between it and the new paradox mars game
L1088[16:44:23] <marcus> I've heard about
that one
L1089[16:44:30] <marcus> my boss
mentioned it, what's it called?
L1090[16:44:42] <ve2dmn> Surviving
Mars
L1091[16:44:47] <marcus> Thanks
L1092[16:45:23] <marcus> 65% on
steam?
L1093[16:45:36] <ve2dmn> really? it's
that bad?
L1094[16:46:40] <marcus> "The
positives: I love this game. If you are a fan of Cities: Skylines
or strategy games like Stellaris you will probably like
this."
L1095[16:47:27] <marcus> "It would
appear they have invested a great deal of time and effort into the
mechanics and resources of this game, i.e they created a great
platform. Sadly they skimped on creating content for that
platform."
L1098[16:47:52] <kmath>
<✔virgingalactic> First footage is in! Check out our pilots'
view from VSS Unity's first rocket powered flight this morning
over…
https://t.co/OliWDfhE3A
L1099[16:48:36] <ve2dmn> I though you
were talking about price
L1100[16:48:52] <Fluburtur> ooo
dovesats
L1101[16:49:17] <ve2dmn> marcus: sounds
like most Paradox games: bare without any DLC, but not too
bad
L1102[16:49:44] <marcus> oh, I wa talking
about reviews
L1103[16:50:22] <ve2dmn> anyway, not sure
who mentioned planetbase but I finished the game again -_-
L1104[16:51:56] <marcus> I found
Planetbase to be fun, but the mid-game is toooo slow for my
taste
L1105[16:51:59] <ve2dmn> Same with
Halcyon 6... (well almost)
L1106[16:52:27] <ve2dmn> marcus: there is
no end-game in planetbase... once you get to a certain point, you
can't really lose
L1107[16:52:37] <marcus> That's what I
mean
L1108[16:53:01] <marcus> But the time
between "ok, I'm not gonna die due to X or Y" and
"robots everywhere!" is way too long
L1109[16:54:12] <ve2dmn> I would also
love to get better seeds in the game.... and a grid on the map to
place the stuff aligned with
L1110[16:54:38] <marcus> Yep.
L1111[16:54:48] <ve2dmn> I guess , I want
Outpost 1, but without the bugs
L1112[16:55:31] <ve2dmn> I really, really
wish I could remake that game, but I would not know where to start
coding
L1113[16:56:36] *
ve2dmn gave up on any large developpement project
L1114[16:58:15] <Fluburtur> I think I got
the hardest parts of the tank mostly sorted
L1115[16:58:19] <Fluburtur> tracks and
drive gear
L1116[16:58:25] <Fluburtur> so now I have
to do everything else
L1117[16:58:53] <Fluburtur> I guess I
should worry about the motorisation
L1118[16:59:11] <Fluburtur> how about
direct drive with motors that reach 14000 rpm
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if anyone in this world still has the source code to outpost
1
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L1126[17:41:27] <SnoopJeDi> I bet someone
does, 1994 isn't particularly long ago
L1127[17:41:56] <Eddi|zuHause> hm, what's
a useful money sink in stellaris?
L1128[17:42:06] <Eddi|zuHause> i'm kinda
drowning in credits right now
L1129[17:42:33] <Eddi|zuHause> went from
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L1130[17:42:37] <Eddi|zuHause> in a short
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L1132[17:48:26] <SnoopJeDi> Political
developments?
L1133[17:51:33] <Eddi|zuHause> all the
things that cost money i already have it seems
L1134[17:52:31] <SnoopJeDi> I meant to
ask if that was the source of your sudden windfall
L1135[17:54:42] <Eddi|zuHause> dunno,i
got some reduced maintenance stuff a while back, which made it go
about even, then annexed a vassal, and assigned the planets to the
sectors
L1136[17:54:50] <Eddi|zuHause> i guess
they must have upgraded stuff a bit
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L1161[19:09:30] <Eddi|zuHause> oh weird,
i managed to get a domination victory before the federation
victory
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L1163[19:10:46] <SnoopJeDi> heh speaking
of federation...
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L1165[19:11:53] <Supernovy> Evening,
Gentlemen.
L1166[19:14:54] <SnoopJeDi> hi
Supernovy!
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L1185[21:32:41] <Neal> turns out the
1.25m heatshield does not adequately shield the 1.25m remote
guidance unit
L1186[21:32:43] <Neal> ...
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L1192[21:35:35] <TheKosmonaut> Neal:
welcome to Kerbal Space program!
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L1194[21:35:52] <Neal> there goes my duna
sample return probe
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L1216[21:50:50] <Eddi|zuHause> man these
CK2 expansions confuse me...
L1217[21:51:06] <Eddi|zuHause> there are
multiple DLC packs which overlap somewhat
L1218[21:54:32] <Supercheese> welcome to
Paradox games
L1219[21:54:38] <Supercheese> krazy
DLC
L1220[21:56:05] <Eddi|zuHause> at least
when i got EU4 it was a -75% sale
L1221[21:56:34] <Eddi|zuHause> this one
is "only" -50
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L1228[22:11:05] <Scolar_Visari> Sons and
daughters of Kerbin: I don't know what this weapon is called, but I
do know the sound it makes when it obliterates galactic
clusters.
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L1230[22:12:38] <Eddi|zuHause> things
don't really make sounds in space
L1231[22:13:23] <Scolar_Visari> Eddi:
Your ear drums will perceive noise as they are obliterated.
L1232[22:13:30] <Scolar_Visari> Along
with the rest of your body, of course!
L1233[22:13:39] <Scolar_Visari> To be
published soon! Massey et al.'s, "Dark matter dynamics in
Abell 3827: new data consistent with standard Cold Dark
Matter" 2018 Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society
https://arxiv.org/abs/1708.04245
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L1235[22:15:31] <Scolar_Visari> Summary:
WIMPs are more WIMPY than previously thought, which aggravates more
direct detections.
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L1238[22:18:49] <Scolar_Visari> From the
article: "The company currently has six employees, only some
of whom have backgrounds in space."
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L1242[22:27:50] <Scolar_Visari> What the?
"The Moon has very little metal because it was created in the
impact which stripped off most of the Earth's first
crust."
L1243[22:29:33] *
Scolar_Visari wonders what all that iron is doing in Lunar regolith
if it's not metal.
L1244[22:30:52] <Scolar_Visari>
Supernovy: You missed it! WIMPs got more WIMPY!
L1245[22:32:19] <Supernovy> How so?
L1246[22:32:52] <Scolar_Visari>
Supernovy: Massey et al, "Dark matter dynamics in Abell 3827:
new data consistent with standard Cold Dark Matter" 2018
Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society
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L1255[22:54:13] <Supercheese> Forget
underwater basket weaving, we now offer Zero-G Basket
Weaving!
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L1260[23:25:21] <Draconiator>
Weeeeeeeeellllll....one of my failures in KSP resulted in a new
sport! Sepretron discus throwing.
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