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L3[00:16:06] <UmbralRaptor> Lithium
Fidelity?
L4[00:17:59] <Althego> lithium flower
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L25[01:51:40] <Rolf> apparently I got
contract to create gold vacuum depostion 3d printer thing
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L27[01:55:12] <Althego> in ksp? :)
L28[01:59:08] <Rolf> ehh no
L29[01:59:26] <Rolf> was supposed to be pm.
quite properte info
L30[01:59:43] <Rolf> its not even patented
yet
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L43[03:45:01] <Althego> no tiangong update
yet. disappointing
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L45[03:49:15] <kubi> well, you may have
some pieces in your garden
L46[03:49:22] <kubi> soon (tm)
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L48[03:54:36] <Althego> no, the inclination
is not high enough
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L50[04:29:18] <JCB> mmmm...
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L52[04:29:21] <JCB> awake..
L53[04:30:41] <Kalpa> You bastard.
L54[04:31:21] <TheKosmonaut> Oh good
L55[04:32:19] <Deddly> ¡ǝƃɐnƃuɐl
L56[04:32:39] <Kalpa> Yeah, no.
L57[04:33:21] <Deddly> Seriously tho,
please do mind the language in here. Also hi
L58[04:34:40] <Kalpa> Can I go with
"I've been here longer than you have" ?
L59[04:34:48] <Deddly> No you cannot
L60[04:34:59] <Kalpa> Hmh, I could've
swordn.
L61[04:35:02] <Kalpa> sworn even
L62[04:36:53] <Deddly> You probably have
been here longer, but the length of time a person has been
attending the channel does not relate to whether or not they can
break the rules.
L63[04:38:26] <Kalpa> It seems we got off
the wrong foot into this conversation.
L64[04:38:36] <Zarthus> Rats. I've been
idling in here for 2 years to get closer to that goal
L65[04:38:37] <Kalpa> I am not here to
challenge your authority.
L66[04:39:07] <Deddly> Sorry for misreading
you, Kalpa :)
L67[04:43:59] <Deddly> Zarthus is an
exception though. He gets to wipe the entire channel any time we
forget to polish his shoes
L68[04:44:43] <Zarthus> genuinely i don't
actually care that much about the polish of my shoes
L69[04:44:55] <Zarthus> exterminating
another planet would be too much of a chore in response
L70[04:46:27] <TheKosmonaut> Zarthus: to be
fair, you *could* do pretty much whatever you wanted
L71[04:46:31] <TheKosmonaut> But you
won't
L72[04:46:38] <TheKosmonaut> Because you
are a kind God
L73[04:46:40] <Deddly> You prefer another
nationality on your shoes, Zarthus?
L74[04:47:50] <Zarthus> It's simple maths,
if I kill everyone doing my chores for me I'll have to do them
myself.
L75[04:48:42] <Deddly> Wise AND
malevolent
L76[04:49:26] <Zarthus> besides, it's a
good day. I'm hoping I get to play the preview of Kerbal
Royale
L77[04:50:35] <Zarthus> (real talk though,
the Path Of Exile Royale actually looked kind of fun for a
gimmick)
L78[04:51:41] <Kalpa> I should probably get
some lunch.
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L83[05:43:56] <TheKosmonaut> Zarthus:
Kerbal Royale is not until 1.6 which, at the current rate of second
decimal updates, won't be until August of 2021
L84[05:44:18] <TheKosmonaut> 2020*
L85[05:44:23] <maltesh> Welp, that's it.
Just came back in from watching Tiangong-1 pass overhead. -0.4
magnitude, much brighter than the only other pass I've watched,
which I think was at about +2.7 or thereabouts.
L86[05:45:04] <maltesh> Luckily the skies
were clear enough, wasn't expecting to get a chance to see it
before it came down.
L87[05:45:11] <Althego> hmm quite
bright
L88[05:45:42] <Althego> still half a day
until it comes down
L89[05:45:56] <Althego> +-10 hours or
so
L90[05:47:37] <maltesh> True, but unless
you're /really/ willing to put work in, you're only going to see
satellite passes when you're in the dark and the satellite isn't,
and this was the absolute last easily-visible pass Heavens Above
predicted for my location.
L91[05:51:54] <Althego> i dont have passes
remaining
L92[05:57:38] <Zarthus> TheKosmonaut:
nonsense, there's a trend of unfinished incomplete buggy royale
games
L93[05:57:50] <Zarthus> TheKosmonaut: I
think the KSP team can do it in 2.5 hours
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L95[06:00:37] <maltesh> Well, the ISS and
Tiangong-2 are likely to still be up for the next several years, so
you still have chances for those.
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L97[06:04:23] <TheKosmonaut> Zarthus: I
love that Fortnite is the best BR game in terms of stability.
L98[06:04:37] <TheKosmonaut> And that
somehow PUBG for iOS is better than the console version
L99[06:04:46] *
TheKosmonaut 's mind is blown
L100[06:04:53] <Zarthus> TheKosmonaut:
Epic is a really cool company to have a BR too
L101[06:05:14] <TheKosmonaut> Zarthus: bUt
ThEY cOpIEd PuBg!
L102[06:06:34] <Zarthus> maybe if pubg was
a decent game from the start they would have had more success
L103[06:07:00] <legion> even World of
Tanks has a battle royale mode now...
L104[06:07:00] <TheKosmonaut> Zarthus: you
watch your mouth.
L105[06:07:04] <TheKosmonaut> They added
vaulting
L106[06:07:09] <TheKosmonaut> Like six
months ago!
L107[06:07:33] <Zarthus> vaulting? like
Fallout style?
L108[06:08:14] <Zarthus> honestly, if I
were the ceo of Bluehole, I'd be a bit embarassed.
L109[06:08:44] <Zarthus> Sure, I'd be
raking in cash and that's the most important bit, I can retire. But
I still put something broken on the steam store and never intend to
fix it
L110[06:08:46] <TheKosmonaut> Embarrassed
in their pools of money
L111[06:11:16] <Zarthus> i'm still mad I
missed out on the Twitch promo where you got a $40 lootcrate for
free
L112[06:11:23] <Zarthus> Would have
refunded my purchaswe.
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L116[06:23:36] <kmath> YouTube -
Supermarine Walrus - 1/700 scale Flyhowk model kit - aircraft
model
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L120[06:39:08] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur:
woah.
L121[06:39:24] <Mat2ch> It's so tiny
L122[06:40:08] <Althego> that's what she
said :)
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L127[06:55:17] <Althego> hah esa updated.
apr 2 4 utc +-4 h
L128[06:58:09] <Fluburtur> Mat2ch yeah
that guy is a wizard
L129[07:00:18] <Eddi|zuHause> what's the
last, i mean first, i mean la... i mean whatever, characters of the
topic? " ᄅ˙ㄣ˙Ɩ " looks like a display bug to me
L130[07:00:54] <Althego> that first seems
to be part of a korean character
L132[07:04:49] <Althego> hehe
L133[07:07:00] <Althego> ah i think it
wants to be 1.4.2
L134[07:07:21] <Althego> it kind of looks
like it
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L140[07:16:54] <kmath> YouTube - Gboard
物理手書きバージョン
L141[07:32:04] <Eddi|zuHause> so how and
when did april fools get to be a thing in non-western
countries?
L142[07:32:53] <TheKosmonaut> Dunno. I
have a feeling this was just a directive by Google and it's
trickled to all the branches in every country they're in
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L144[07:34:49] <Eddi|zuHause> there are
enough myths about how april fools got to be a thing in the first
place anyway, with like 14th century examples of people playing
pranks on each other
L145[07:35:12] <GurrenLagannCWP> Hii
L146[07:35:14] <Mod9000> Hello,
GurrenLagannCWP
L147[07:35:41] <Eddi|zuHause> there was a
story about a guy who faked his death so he could see how his
relatives fight over the inheritance
L148[07:35:50] <GurrenLagannCWP> I had soo
much fun with HyperEdit yesterday
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L151[07:42:50] <GurrenLagannCWP> Hi
N70
L152[07:43:00] <N70> i hate today
L153[07:43:20] <GurrenLagannCWP> Why
L154[07:43:32] <GurrenLagannCWP> April
Fools?
L155[07:43:36] <N70> shitty jokes: the
holiday
L156[07:44:02] <GurrenLagannCWP> i knew
it
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L165[08:16:10] <FltAdmVonSpiz> what am I
looking at?
L166[08:16:40] <Althego> a computer screen
:)
L167[08:20:32] <TheKosmonaut> N70:
language.
L168[08:20:39] <N70> sorry
L169[08:20:46] <Mat2ch> Althego: Out. Now.
:D
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L171[08:22:35] <FltAdmVonSpiz> :(
L172[08:22:55] <FltAdmVonSpiz> are SoIs
calculated dynamically? ie. if you had that system would it
recalibrate properly
L173[08:23:00] <FltAdmVonSpiz> or would
you get a mess of overlapping spheres of influence
L174[08:23:25] <Althego> why would they
be?
L175[08:23:48] <Althego> in a fixed solar
system it is easy just to predetermine them
L176[08:23:51] <FltAdmVonSpiz> well having
them calculcated at runtime avoids problems like that causing a
mass of overlapping spheres of influence
L177[08:23:56] <FltAdmVonSpiz> maybe I
just hate myself
L178[08:26:57] <Fluburtur> I went to a
local garage sale and there was absolutely nothing
interesting
L179[08:27:03] <Althego> hehe
L180[08:27:32] <Althego> we shall take
your light converters. that will be x bucks. i said we shal TAKE
your light converters
L181[08:28:06] <Fluburtur> usually I have
to decide what I want to get because there is a lot of nice stuff
but this time I was almost like "eh I should probably buy
somethign"
L182[08:28:08] <Fluburtur> but no
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L188[08:49:18] <GurrenLagannCWP>
laaaaaag
L189[08:51:55] <Althego> you have it in
your name
L190[09:03:04] <FltAdmVonSpiz> I wish Jool
had more moons
L191[09:03:13] <FltAdmVonSpiz> many more
moons
L192[09:03:37] <Althego> i want an other
gas giant
L193[09:04:03] <Althego> the jool system
offers the most fun. so having to would double the fun
L194[09:04:25] <FltAdmVonSpiz> or someting
really surreal
L195[09:04:25] <Althego> *two
L196[09:04:29] <FltAdmVonSpiz> like a dual
planet gas giant system with moons
L197[09:04:40] <Althego> probably not too
stable
L198[09:05:01] <Althego> btw, the
astronomers are lazy. where is my planet nine?
L199[09:05:13] <Althego> ok it is really
far away now
L200[09:05:16] <Althego> if it
exists
L201[09:05:38] <Althego> but still, find
it already
L202[09:08:07] <GurrenLagannCWP> Althego:
Jool system is unstable. Why? Because Tylo.
L203[09:08:20] <Althego> yes we know in
reality it would eject vall
L204[09:09:42] <GurrenLagannCWP> And Pol
would be ejected too (but it takes 10 years)
L205[09:09:43] <Kalpa> In reality, you
say
L206[09:10:12] <Althego> if it was running
gravitational differential equations
L207[09:10:26] <Althego> instead of on
rails
L208[09:11:44] <Kalpa> Many other things
would happen in the Kerbol system in reality.
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L210[09:13:46] <GurrenLagannCWP> Kalpa:
Like what?
L211[09:14:28] <GurrenLagannCWP> Kerbol
turning into a planet so every planet is a moon
L212[09:14:41] <Kalpa> More or less.
L213[09:14:58] <Kalpa> Many fun things
happen with the densities involved.
L214[09:15:10] <GurrenLagannCWP> Because
Kerbol's mass is only 8.5 Jupiters
L215[09:26:38] <Pakaran> Getting ready for
a sandbox test of my Spacecamp mockup.
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L217[09:32:23] <Pakaran> 4.4 kps to get to
lko and back should be plenty, no?
L218[09:32:57] <Althego> you can go around
the mun and back
L219[09:33:09] <Althego> free return
trajectory
L222[09:35:08] <Pakaran> never flown a
free return, though I have some idea of the concepts.
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L224[09:36:04] <Pakaran> the current
issue, WITH the current drop tanks, it's a bit too heavy for the
pad (158 tonnes vs 140).
L225[09:36:08] <Althego> it is basically a
figure 8 with high retrograde non capturing flyby around the
mun
L226[09:36:12] <FltAdmVonSpiz> as I Recall
the Jool thing is because the numbers have been set
incorrecly
L227[09:36:20] <ManuxKerb> hi, i was just
wondering, in on the surface of minus and how do i know in wich
direction i have to burn to need the least amount of fuel to get an
encounter with kerbin and not burn out of soi....Thanks! :-)
L228[09:36:45] <FltAdmVonSpiz> with minmus
I just make orbit going in either east or west
L229[09:36:55] <FltAdmVonSpiz> then work
it out in mapview after
L230[09:36:57] <Pakaran> without, I'm I
feel like I'm underutilizing the KLF 250 first stage engine, and I
think the delta-v is marginal to make orbit.
L231[09:37:04] <Pakaran> With solids, it's
a royal mass problem.
L232[09:37:54] <Pakaran> I still want to
do a sandbox test, including say a 2700 m/s entry to validate the
ability of the heat shield to, er, shield the rather stupid bullet
shaped array of hitchhikers.
L233[09:38:06] <ManuxKerb> FltAdmVonSpiz:
Thanks! but is there a rule of some sort to do it for example on
the mun. I see ppl burn in the right direction on youtube but no
explonation was given
L234[09:39:06] <Althego> usually people go
prograde
L235[09:39:09] <Pakaran> I've seen planes
with basically the same pressurized section, but they also have a
lot of wing to absorb the entry heating.
L236[09:39:13] <Althego> which means in
the directions things rotat
L237[09:39:14] <Althego> e
L238[09:39:22] <Althego> so go towards
east on takeoff
L239[09:39:34] <FltAdmVonSpiz> on bodies
orbiting other bodies
L240[09:39:39] <FltAdmVonSpiz> if you
chose your launch time you can ascend striaght up
L241[09:39:45] <Pakaran> It means that
Minmus' spin is helping you.
L242[09:39:49] <Althego> then of course
this determiens your burn towards kerbin which is on the side of
the orbit facing kerbin
L243[09:39:50] <FltAdmVonSpiz> burn
straight to escape
L244[09:39:53] <Althego> in case of
minmus
L245[09:40:05] <Pakaran> Ideally you
escape with your vector kerbin retrograde.
L246[09:40:08] <Althego> but in case of
mun and minmus these wins are marginal
L247[09:40:27] <Pakaran> That means that
you need a realtively small burn to almost cancel your Kerbin
horizontal, and basically fall into an entry trajectory
L248[09:40:42] <Pakaran> Right, Minmus
especially.
L249[09:40:53] <Althego> the problem with
this is, that the trip back takes like 6 days
L250[09:41:08] <Pakaran> You usually boost
a bit and arrive at say 3.4 kps?
L251[09:41:22] <Althego> so in case of
minmus i usually avoid hohmann trajectories
L252[09:42:21] <Pakaran> makes
sense.
L253[09:42:40] <Pakaran> doesn't take much
fuel to save a lot of time, given the acceleration due to Kerbin's
gravity out that far is pretty minimal
L254[09:45:44] <ManuxKerb> "Ideally
you escape with your vector kerbin retrograde" what do you
mean, i dont understand ...
L255[09:46:09] <Althego> say you are in an
orbit around minmus from west to east
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L257[09:46:26] <Althego> minmus is also in
orbit around kerbin in the same direction
L258[09:46:37] <Althego> so where do
velocities add?
L259[09:46:53] <Althego> when you are
above the face of miinmus facing kerbin
L260[09:47:01] <Althego> if there you burn
prograde
L261[09:47:10] <Althego> that would burn
cancelling the orbtal velocity of minmus
L262[09:47:24] <Althego> that is kerbin
retrograd
L263[09:47:46] <Althego> however note that
minmus has an inclination, so to do it purely by markers is really
hard
L264[09:50:42] <GurrenLagannCWP>
meeeesssssssssssss hyperr
L265[09:51:43] <GurrenLagannCWP> NYAN
CAT
L266[09:53:45] <ManuxKerb> ok i see
now
L267[09:53:49] <ManuxKerb> thanks
:-)
L268[09:54:30] <Fluburtur> ;choose do a
video for youtube|do nothing for a week again
L269[09:54:30] <kmath> Fluburtur: do a
video for youtube
L270[09:54:37] <Fluburtur> good bot
L271[09:54:41] <Fluburtur> kmath is wise
sometimes
L272[09:54:45] <Althego> this is so simple
for minmus because your orbital speed there is low compared to the
speed you need for kerbin
L273[09:55:26] <Althego> for the mun the
similar logic gives you a 45 degree position on your orbit for
optimal burn (between mun "front" and kerbin facing
side)
L274[09:57:30] <Althego> lol these
tiangong predictions are still all over the place
L276[09:58:11] <GurrenLagannCWP> ;choose
Mess around with the planets physicaly|Mess around with the
planets's orbit
L277[09:58:11] <kmath> GurrenLagannCWP:
Mess around with the planets physicaly
L278[09:58:23] <GurrenLagannCWP> Yep,
kmath is great
L279[09:58:34] <Althego> touching
balls?
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L283[10:07:59] <FltAdmVonSpiz> also be
careful doing burns that cross SOIs
L284[10:08:03] <FltAdmVonSpiz> it can make
your display go crazy
L285[10:08:16] <FltAdmVonSpiz> i found
this ou to my cost trying to do a combined Gilly-escape and Eve
retrograde maneuvre
L286[10:08:22] <Althego> never wanted to
do anything like that
L287[10:08:33] <Althego> probably because
of oberth
L288[10:09:09] <FltAdmVonSpiz> yeah
L289[10:09:14] <FltAdmVonSpiz> I was
trying to drop into a very low pass around Eve
L290[10:09:18] <FltAdmVonSpiz> in
preparation for the escape burn to Kerbin
L291[10:09:34] <Althego> but gilly has an
extreme small soi
L292[10:09:36] <FltAdmVonSpiz> Gillys
gravity is so low the oberth saving is negligible
L293[10:09:53] <FltAdmVonSpiz> yeah I was
burning as I crossed the SoI and my navball went nuts
L294[10:09:57] <FltAdmVonSpiz> ended
upburning most of my fuel going prograde
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L296[10:15:38] <FltAdmVonSpiz_> but
yeah
L297[10:15:46] <FltAdmVonSpiz_> maneuvre
nodes across SOI can get a bit screwy it turns out
L298[10:16:04] <Fluburtur> ;choose do
video on 3d printed landing gear|do video on hot to make foam
wings
L299[10:16:04] <kmath> Fluburtur: do video
on hot to make foam wings
L300[10:16:22] <Fluburtur> kmath please I
can actually do that
L301[10:16:25] <Fluburtur> im trying to be
lazy
L302[10:16:51] <Pakaran> all the tiangong
sites show the current altitude
L303[10:17:04] <Pakaran> showing the
current apses would give a much better idea of what it's actually
doing, lol
L304[10:17:46] <GurrenLagannCWP> ;choose
1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9
L305[10:17:46] <kmath> GurrenLagannCWP:
6
L306[10:17:55] <GurrenLagannCWP> ;choose
1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9
L307[10:17:56] <kmath> GurrenLagannCWP:
1
L308[10:18:00] <GurrenLagannCWP> ;choose
1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9
L309[10:18:00] <kmath> GurrenLagannCWP:
4
L310[10:18:02] <GurrenLagannCWP> ;choose
1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9
L311[10:18:02] <kmath> GurrenLagannCWP:
5
L312[10:18:04] <GurrenLagannCWP> ;choose
1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9
L313[10:18:04] <kmath> GurrenLagannCWP:
7
L314[10:18:07] <GurrenLagannCWP> ;choose
1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9
L315[10:18:07] <kmath> GurrenLagannCWP:
8
L316[10:18:09] <GurrenLagannCWP> ;choose
1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9
L317[10:18:10] <kmath> GurrenLagannCWP:
8
L318[10:18:12] <GurrenLagannCWP> ;choose
1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9
L319[10:18:12] <kmath> GurrenLagannCWP:
6
L320[10:18:16] <GurrenLagannCWP> ;choose
1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9
L321[10:18:16] <kmath> GurrenLagannCWP:
6
L322[10:18:24] <GurrenLagannCWP> ;choose
1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9
L323[10:18:24] <kmath> GurrenLagannCWP:
4
L324[10:18:43] <GurrenLagannCWP> so the
sequence is 6,1,4,5,7,8,8,6,6,4
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L326[10:19:01] ***
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L327[10:19:36] <FltAdmVonSpiz> what is
happening?
L328[10:20:12] <Fluburtur> does kmath have
a random number command?
L329[10:20:41] <Zarthus> ;wa number
between 1 and 10
L330[10:20:43] <kmath> Zarthus: arithmetic
progression->1 to 10->step size->1: {1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7,
8, 9, 10}
L331[10:20:59] <Zarthus> ;wa random(1,
10)
L332[10:21:00] <kmath> Zarthus: A random
number in the closed interval from 1 to 10: 9
L333[10:21:05] <Zarthus> answer: yes
L334[10:21:10] <Fluburtur> wonder what
will happen is you ask it like 1 billion
L335[10:21:22] <Fluburtur> ;wa random(1,
10000000)
L336[10:21:23] <kmath> Fluburtur: A random
number in the closed interval from 1 to 10000000: 9272741
L337[10:21:31] <Zarthus> It's WA, it won't
choke
L339[10:21:44] <kmath> YouTube - This is a
bit random - Vintage Random Number Generator
L340[10:21:44] <Zarthus> ;wa random(1,
9223372036854775809)
L341[10:21:45] <kmath> Zarthus: A random
number in the closed interval from 1 to 9223372036854775809:
8817313418514601822
L342[10:22:01] <Fluburtur> ;wa random(1,
-1)
L343[10:22:02] <kmath> Fluburtur: A random
number in the closed interval from 1 to -1: 0
L344[10:22:12] <Zarthus> ;wa random(1,
googolplexian)
L345[10:22:26] <Zarthus> ok maybe that
broke it
L346[10:23:54] <GurrenLagannCWP> ;wa
random(1,
9223372036854775545642597529578565452387575845474367848675456378479549563784754955656597496794656378545336746745846368754563784809)
L347[10:23:54] <FltAdmVonSpiz> ;wave
random(1,1)
L348[10:23:55] <kmath> GurrenLagannCWP: A
random number in the closed interval from 1 to
9223372036854775545642597529578565452387575845474367848675456378479549563784754955656597496794656378545336746745846368754563784809:
-- this crap is too long.
L349[10:23:57] <FltAdmVonSpiz> oops
L350[10:24:09] <FltAdmVonSpiz> ;wa
random(1,1)
L351[10:24:10] <kmath> FltAdmVonSpiz: A
random number in the closed interval from 1 to 1: 1
L352[10:24:21] <GurrenLagannCWP> ;wa
random(1,
92233720368547755456425975295785654523875758454743784754955656597496794656378545336746745846368754563784809)
L353[10:24:22] <kmath> GurrenLagannCWP: A
random number in the closed interval from 1 to
92233720368547755456425975295785654523875758454743784754955656597496794656378545336746745846368754563784809:
-- this crap is too long.
L354[10:24:26] <GurrenLagannCWP> ;wa
random(1,
9223372036854775545642597529578565452656597496794656378545336746745846368754563784809)
L355[10:24:27] <kmath> GurrenLagannCWP: A
random number in the closed interval from 1 to
9223372036854775545642597529578565452656597496794656378545336746745846368754563784809:
-- this crap is too long.
L356[10:24:31] <GurrenLagannCWP> omg
L357[10:24:34] <FltAdmVonSpiz> ;wa
random(5,0)
L358[10:24:35] <kmath> FltAdmVonSpiz: A
random number in the closed interval from 5 to 0: 0
L359[10:24:37] <GurrenLagannCWP> ;wa
random(1, 922337203685477554565846368754563784809)
L360[10:24:38] <kmath> GurrenLagannCWP: A
random number in the closed interval from 1 to
922337203685477554565846368754563784809:
352848877634492171964601673575659443352
L361[10:24:42] <Althego> stop
L362[10:24:44] <GurrenLagannCWP>
finally
L363[10:24:46] <FltAdmVonSpiz> oh
dear
L364[10:24:47] <Althego> fir the greater
good
L365[10:24:55] <FltAdmVonSpiz> I think it
doesn't hve proper sanitisation of its inputs
L366[10:25:14] <Fluburtur> ;wa random(0.1,
1)
L367[10:25:15] <GurrenLagannCWP> Althego:
MATH IS MORE REALISTIC THAN KSP
L368[10:25:15] <kmath> Fluburtur: A random
number in the closed interval from 0.1 to 1: 0.475775
L369[10:25:22] <Fluburtur> oh good that
works too
L370[10:25:54] <FltAdmVonSpiz> ;wa
random(1,0.1)
L371[10:25:54] <kmath> FltAdmVonSpiz: A
random number in the closed interval from 1 to 0.1: 0.785041
L372[10:26:03] <FltAdmVonSpiz> oh it does
work with reversed series
L373[10:26:05] <FltAdmVonSpiz> thats
nice
L374[10:26:42] <GurrenLagannCWP> ;wa
random(0,0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001)
L375[10:26:43] <kmath> GurrenLagannCWP: A
random number in the closed interval from 0 to 1.×10^-47:
9.37189×10^-48
L376[10:27:08] <GurrenLagannCWP> ;wa
random(0,1.×10^-472)
L377[10:27:08] <kmath> GurrenLagannCWP:
RandomReal[0, 1/10^472] = RandomReal[0,
1.000000000000000×10^-472]
L378[10:27:30] <GurrenLagannCWP> ;wa
random(0, 1/10^472)
L379[10:27:32] <kmath> GurrenLagannCWP:
RandomReal[0, 1/10^472] = RandomReal[0, -- this crap is too
long.
L380[10:28:01] <GurrenLagannCWP>
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOLOLLOLOLOLOL
L381[10:31:46] <FltAdmVonSpiz> what on
earth is happening
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L383[10:43:25] <GurrenLagannCWP> OMG
Planetary Diversity takes soo long to load
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L385[10:45:22] <Althego> not diversity
hires
L386[10:47:03] <GurrenLagannCWP> When you
load a savegame the first time with Planetary Diversity installed,
it will lock down for some time. This happens because in KSP, every
planet needs a low-res representation for higher distances.
Building this low-res version is quite expensive, thats why it is
done once and then gets cached inside of your savegame folder. When
finished, your game should unlock and you should be able to explore
a slightly different solar system.
L387[10:47:24] <GurrenLagannCWP> ohhhhh
its the freakin low-res images
L388[11:07:19] <Fluburtur> I think I will
go cook some rocket fuel
L389[11:07:27] <Fluburtur> I didn't fire
any rocket for like a week
L390[11:19:34] <Althego> lol
L391[11:19:44] <Althego> back to the
kitchen!
L392[11:19:59] <Althego> what's cooking?
hmm, nice, i love the smell of rockeet fuel :)
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L399[11:40:19] <ve2dmn> Tiagong-1 could
land in china
L400[11:40:25] <Althego> hehe
L401[11:41:36] <ve2dmn> The ocean is, of
course, the most probable one
L402[11:44:02] <FltAdmVonSpiz> those
uncertainties are going to be shrinking
L403[11:44:05] <FltAdmVonSpiz> at least in
one direction soon
L404[11:44:13] <FltAdmVonSpiz> unless it
has already entered the atmosphere
L405[11:44:25] <Althego> no, it is still
up
L406[11:44:46] <ve2dmn> The window is MUCH
smaller now then 12h ago
L407[11:45:00] <Althego> in some of the
predictions
L408[11:45:07] <Althego> and the esa
predictions is not really one
L409[11:45:12] <Althego> it is around
useless
L411[11:46:20] <FltAdmVonSpiz> April 1st
22:30 +-5.8h is obviously wrong now
L412[11:46:24] <FltAdmVonSpiz> since it
can only be -5h now at most
L413[11:47:43] <FltAdmVonSpiz> why havent
the Chinese used it as an ASAT test or something?
L414[11:48:47] <ve2dmn> The lost
control... the original plan was to dump it in the pacific
L415[11:49:05] <ve2dmn> That plan is now
hard to do, since they lost all communications
L416[11:49:21] <Eddi|zuHause> so why is
reentry this difficult to predict?
L417[11:49:38] <ve2dmn> Because air at
this altitude is hard to predict
L418[11:49:51] <Eddi|zuHause> and why
would it be easier if they could still predict it?
L419[11:50:01] <Eddi|zuHause> err
L420[11:50:03] <Eddi|zuHause> control
it
L421[11:50:10] <ve2dmn> retro-burn
L422[11:50:13] <Althego> because it would
make a deorbit burn
L423[11:50:25] <Althego> and fall down
where they want it to
L424[11:50:46] <Althego> now all this
depends on its tumbling, the state of th upper atmosphere, solar
wind, and stuff like that
L425[11:51:25] <ve2dmn> The comments are
giving me drain bamage...
L426[11:51:38] <Althego> that is basic
stuff. never read the comments
L427[11:51:43] <ve2dmn> "Let's just
blow up the thing"
L428[11:51:55] <ve2dmn> TL;DR ^
L429[11:51:58] <FltAdmVonSpiz> well
breaking it into pieces would increase the likelyhood that the
propellant tanks will rupture in the high atmosphere
L430[11:52:02] <FltAdmVonSpiz> eliminating
the hydrazine risk
L431[11:52:08] <FltAdmVonSpiz> it will
also get it to drop out of orbit faster
L432[11:52:24] <FltAdmVonSpiz> also just
seems a perfect oportunity to test an ASAT on an actual
target
L433[11:52:29] <Eddi|zuHause> so instead
of one big piece orbiting uncontrollably you shatter it into
thousands?
L434[11:52:30] <ve2dmn> FltAdmVonSpiz:
yes, and creating a debri cloud
L435[11:52:39] <FltAdmVonSpiz> a debris
cloud that will very shortly become suborbital
L436[11:52:50] <FltAdmVonSpiz> its no
debris risk
L437[11:52:50] <Althego> and also burn up
completely
L438[11:53:06] <Althego> but it is highly
unlikely to hit anything anyway
L439[11:53:23] <ve2dmn> yeah... it's not a
real risk to begin with
L440[11:53:54] <ve2dmn> so no point in
trying to solve a problem that isn't that bad
L441[11:53:56] <Eddi|zuHause> anyone seen
"dead like me"?
L442[11:57:01] <Eddi|zuHause> so anyway,
the prediction basically says "it could be any minute now,
over the next 10 hours"?
L443[11:58:10] <Althego> yes
L444[11:59:06] <ve2dmn> April 2nd, 2018
00:18 UTC ± 2 hours
L445[12:01:15] <Zarthus> utc+2 is not
April 2 tho
L446[12:01:40] <Althego> it is here
:)
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L448[12:01:47] <Zarthus> yeah, but that's
closer to utc+8
L449[12:02:16] <Althego> some predictions
still have higher error bars
L450[12:02:26] <Althego> so it is possible
it will be in orbin when i wake up tomorrow
L451[12:03:20] <Eddi|zuHause> that depends
on when you go to sleep :p
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L457[12:12:34] <kmath> YouTube - The
Definitive 11Foot8 Bridge Crash Compilation
L458[12:15:57] <Althego> why is it in
imperial when the uploader is german?
L459[12:16:02] <Eddi|zuHause> ;wa 11 foot
8 in m
L460[12:16:05] <kmath> Eddi|zuHause:
convert 11' 8" to meters: 3.556 meters
L461[12:16:53] <Fluburtur> the funniest is
the trucks that barely fit
L462[12:17:01] <Fluburtur> just scrapping
the top
L463[12:17:25] <Eddi|zuHause> that's all
the same bridge?
L464[12:17:32] <Fluburtur> yes
L465[12:18:26] <Eddi|zuHause> one would
assume that that many crashes would cause some structural damage to
the bridge
L466[12:18:47] <Fluburtur> read the
description
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L470[12:32:50] <ManuxKerb> hi guys, thanks
for the help with minmus, i made it back but my ssto got damaged
and i had to use my emergeny parachutes :-)
L471[12:33:56] <ManuxKerb> this got me
thinking, are rapiers the best engines to use for an ssto or would
it be better to use normal supersonic engines and then instead of
close cyling go forward with nirmal rockets ? what rocket/ egnies
would you use for that ?
L472[12:34:08] <Fluburtur> uh since I
started watching the tiangong 1 track the altitude went from 160 to
145km
L473[12:34:20] <Fluburtur> but right now
it is over the equator so it's probably the reason
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L475[12:35:35] <Eddi|zuHause> earth isn't
actually a sphere
L476[12:35:43] <Fluburtur> I know
L477[12:35:47] <Fluburtur> that's why I
said that
L478[12:35:54] <Althego> but nobody said
tiangong is in a circular orbit either
L479[12:36:20] <Fluburtur> true
L480[12:36:34] <Eddi|zuHause> one would
assume that a non-circular orbit makes predicting reentry easier,
as it would likely reenter at PE?
L481[12:36:35] <Althego> ManuxKerb:
rapiers are really good, the only drawback is that they dont help
you get off the ground. but if you get past that they are the best
engines for an ssto
L482[12:36:39] <ManuxKerb> is there a
youtube feed ? Do cameras still work in the tiangong?
L483[12:36:54] <Althego> even if they
work, there is no connection
L484[12:36:56] <ve2dmn> nope
L486[12:37:06] <ve2dmn> They lost all
telemetry in 2015
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L488[12:40:03] <ManuxKerb> Althego: thanks
that answers one question but in orbit i use nuclear atm that seems
to be the most eficient way for me, do you think there is a better
way ?
L489[12:40:29] <Althego> nuclear is only
worth it in an ssto if you want to go really far
L490[12:40:34] <Althego> it is simply too
heavy
L491[12:40:53] <Althego> like landing on
the mun or going to duna
L492[12:42:04] <ManuxKerb> Althego: also
would it be kerbal to use supersonic engines at the begigging to
get up to speed and then ditch them ?
L493[12:42:17] <Althego> wouldnt be an
ssto :)
L494[12:42:25] <ManuxKerb> ok i used it
for my minmus ssto but still much to learn
L495[12:42:35] <Althego> that is a stage
and a half
L496[12:42:43] <Althego> (sometimes used
in real life)
L497[12:42:51] <ManuxKerb> oh cool
L498[12:42:57] <Althego> on rockets
L499[12:43:03] <ManuxKerb> so ssto is is
only if you dont ditch anything ?
L500[12:43:11] <Althego> yes
L501[12:43:54] <ManuxKerb> ok
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L504[12:46:33] <Althego> waiting for the
commie craft to crash?
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L522[13:40:51] <Suprcheese> ah good ol'
ModuleManager and its Nyan Easter
L523[13:41:06] <ConductorCat> :3
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L526[13:43:02] <Eddi|zuHause> is that the
one that was broken at first and showed all the time instead of
only on april 1st?
L527[13:43:35] <Althego> prediction
uncertainties are going down
L528[13:43:56] <Eddi|zuHause> what
slightly amazes me about those bridge crashes is that there don't
seem to be any followup crashes where a car rams into the abruptly
stopped truck ahead
L529[13:50:59] <ve2dmn> Eddi|zuHause:
speed limits
L530[13:58:54] <FLHerne> Eddi|zuHause: The
yellow bar is a separate structure in front of the bridge, to stop
vehicles before they can hit the bridge proper
L531[14:02:38] <AlonzoTG> 1. Remote tech
integration and ISRU demands that you have an extensive network of
relays and scanners...
L532[14:02:56] <AlonzoTG> 2. Having an
extensive network of anything in this game radically destabilizes
the save rendering it unplayable.
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L534[14:10:57] <Neal> did tiangong crash
already?
L535[14:12:00] <Mat2ch> Nop
L536[14:12:28] <Mat2ch> predictions say in
something about in the next 8 hours
L537[14:12:31] <Neal> the live feed I was
watching had it drop off the map, showing coordinates at 0, 0
lat/long
L539[14:15:45] <Mat2ch> Sadly nobody seems
to maintan a graphic that shows the heights per orbit of it
L540[14:15:54] <Mat2ch> *maintain
L541[14:16:03] <Neal> sad, looks unlikely
to reenter over california
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L543[14:17:39] <Draconiator> last I heard
it was like at an altitude of 107 miles
L544[14:18:07] <Mat2ch> 146 km
L545[14:18:20] <Mat2ch> in space we're
using SI units. ;P
L546[14:18:23] <Neal> solar panels
probably gone now
L547[14:18:30] <Althego> actually
everywhere
L548[14:18:34] <Althego> ecept for the
usa
L549[14:18:44] <Althego> (and some 2 small
countries that dont matter)
L550[14:20:09] <Mat2ch> even the NASA
twitter account uses imperial units. I don't understand why.
:(
L551[14:20:21] <Mat2ch> No, not both, but
imperial-only
L552[14:22:01] <Neal> faa uses kilofeet as
a measurement of altitude too
L553[14:23:41] <Neal> wasn't there some
movie where a sample return reentry vehicle gets eaten by an
alligator
L554[14:23:46] <Neal> I think it had steve
irwin in it
L555[14:24:00] <Supercheese>
kilofeet?!
L556[14:24:47] <Supercheese> Hmm, would
you pronounce that as "kee-low-feet" or
"kill-oh-feet"?
L557[14:25:27] <Supercheese> (of course
the proper answer is: who the heck would even use that unit
anyway)
L558[14:25:44] <ConductorCat> kilo
feet
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L560[14:26:28] <ConductorCat> FAA
apparently
L561[14:27:41] <ConductorCat> Because they
think 30,000 feet is more memorable than 10km.
L562[14:28:15] <Mat2ch> 30 kilo feet!
*ducks*
L563[14:29:10] <Althego> 328 kilofeet is
space :)
L564[14:29:11] <Supercheese> Well,
"thirty thousand feet" *is* quite memorable, but not
"thirty kilofeet"
L566[14:29:44] <Althego> i know this
because spaceshipone had the designator 328kf because of this
(100km was already taken)
L567[14:32:25] <ConductorCat> The times
I've saved a kerb by jumping out the capsule at the last
second.
L568[14:33:20] <Supercheese> well they
have their own parachutes now, so you can just bail out earlier, I
suppose
L569[14:33:27] <Draconiator> Need to put
more powerful RCS on it though...always ends up flipping.
L570[14:33:40] <Neal> has anyone done a
skip reentry in KSP?
L571[14:33:59] <Althego> apollo
style?
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L573[14:34:15] <Althego> sometimes it took
me long enough that the planet curved under me
L574[14:34:24] <Althego> but it is not
really aero lift skipping
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L578[14:38:56] <Neal> I wonder how much of
the apollo style skip can be attributed to them just hitting
perigee and going back up a bit
L579[14:39:13] <Neal> seems hard to
believe a capsule like that could generate enough lift
L580[14:39:21] <Althego> it was going
fast
L581[14:39:34] <Althego> and the blunt
body reentry is still used today
L582[14:39:44] <Althego> quite well
understood
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L585[14:43:01] <Althego> hehe
L586[14:43:14] <Althego> strange shape,
and upside down
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L593[14:53:45] <Neal> did I install some
mods without realizing it or are there a ton of new parts in
KSP?
L595[14:54:06] <kmath> YouTube -
fireworks
L596[14:54:23] <Neal> mk2 command pod,
munar excursion module... soyuz parts..
L597[14:55:57] <UmbralRaptor> Neal: Making
History?
L598[14:57:36] <Neal> appears so, what's
the deal with the flameoutUnder value on engines, do they flameout
<10% thrust or fuel?
L599[14:59:03] <Gasher> thrust lol
L600[14:59:23] <Gasher> they flameout on
0% fuel usually
L601[14:59:36] <Neal> I though they would
flameout at -5% left
L602[14:59:52] <Neal> they should move
that parameter from the fuel section to the thrust section
though
L603[15:00:06] <Gasher> hm
L605[15:02:00] <Gasher> insulated?
L607[15:03:13] <Neal> wait no already
happened
L608[15:06:29] <ve2dmn> any news on
Tiangong-1 ?
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L610[15:07:47] <GurrenLagannCWP> This has
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L612[15:10:32] <Draconiator> Tiangong-1
was nominated for deletion. - Wikipedia is REALLY fun today.
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L616[15:19:14] <ve2dmn> *sigh*
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L622[16:13:40] <GuestBanana> ooh,
seyx
L623[16:15:57] <Gasher> ?
L624[16:16:18] <GuestBanana> it's a meme,
it's an intentional misspelling of sexy
L625[16:16:36] <GuestBanana> I am
referring to the new look of the chat
L626[16:16:51] <GuestBanana> Is it an
April Fools thing or is it staying?
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L630[16:22:30] <Neal> the topic?
L631[16:22:54] <Neal> ʇɔxǝʇ uʍop
ǝpᴉsdn
L632[16:23:29] <ve2dmn> it's
australian
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L636[16:36:33] <GuestBanana> No, poland is
upside down
L638[16:37:15] <GuestBanana> Also I was
referring to how this chat looks a lot more like discord to me than
it used to; I had a really old-school look before
L639[16:44:52] <Mimiru> Esper switched
from "Iris" to "TheLounge" for their webchat..
no idea when though.
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L642[16:48:32] <Supernovy> Evening,
Gentlemen.
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L656[18:10:30] <ve2dmn> t-2h until the
Tiangong-1 falls
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L659[18:15:17] <ve2dmn> I have a bet with
a friend over the location of the crash
L660[18:15:42] <ve2dmn> He said pacific, I
said Eurasia
L661[18:16:05] <ve2dmn> looks like I might
owe him a CK2 DLC
L662[18:23:36] <ve2dmn> Thinkgeek.com has
a new bluetoothy pet rock
L663[18:23:41] <ve2dmn> I want one
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L667[18:45:33] <ve2dmn> I wonder what the
flat-earthers think of the high-altitude ballon pictures...
L668[18:48:31] <Eclipser> photoshop
L669[18:48:34] <UmbralRaptor> They blame
lenses, IIRC.
L670[18:48:51] <ve2dmn> I forgot about
that
L671[18:49:02] <ve2dmn> why don't they
make their own pictures then?
L672[18:50:00] <UmbralRaptor> I think they
have, from much lower altitudes?
L673[18:50:10] <ve2dmn> And?
L674[18:50:25] <UmbralRaptor>
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L675[18:50:32] <ve2dmn> *sigh*
L676[18:50:52] <UmbralRaptor> Might have
been in a range where nothing was measurable?
L677[18:53:15] <ve2dmn> I give up
L678[18:54:38] <Supercheese> Man, I don't
think any other program on my pc uses even half the RAM that KSP
does
L679[18:54:46] <Supercheese> it really
gobbles it like mda
L680[18:54:47] <Supercheese> mad*
L681[18:55:13] <ve2dmn> I didn't run it
today.... is it Nyan Cat day?
L682[18:55:17] <Supercheese> yup
L683[18:55:24] <Supercheese> Nyapril
Fool's day
L684[18:56:00] <ve2dmn> Can I turn it on
365day?
L685[18:58:11] <Eclipser> Supercheese, how
mad
L686[18:58:15] <Supercheese> well you can
screw with your system clock
L687[18:58:25] <ve2dmn> T-0.55854250h
until re-entry of Tiangong-1
L688[18:59:01] <ve2dmn> I don't know how
they got that level of precision btw
L689[18:59:01] <Supercheese> Eclipser:
like Mutable Accessible Data
L690[18:59:36] <Fluburtur> ve2dmn probably
covnerted from another value
L691[18:59:38] <Supercheese> "How
many specific digits should we include in this?"
L692[18:59:40] <Supercheese>
"Yes."
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L695[19:01:00] <Fluburtur> link to the
dynamic version?
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L698[19:01:52] <Fluburtur> where is the
website with the tracking?
L700[19:03:43] <Fluburtur> yes thank
you
L702[19:03:52] <Fluburtur> uh iy is nearly
at the reentry point
L703[19:04:04] <ve2dmn> yeah.
30-45min
L704[19:04:07] <Fluburtur> but it looks
like the light conditions will make it a nice fireworks show
L705[19:04:20] <Fluburtur> hope someone
will be there to film that
L706[19:05:10] <Fluburtur> probably some
dude will go out there with a plane to get great footage
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L708[19:08:57] <Supernovy> Skylab 2:
Re-entry Boogaloo
L709[19:09:13] <Supernovy> Where's it
coming down? South America?
L710[19:09:23] <ve2dmn> The ISS will be on
the same side of the earth.... but over Ontario
L711[19:09:36] <ve2dmn>
Chili-Argentina...
L712[19:09:44] <Fluburtur> to the left of
south america yes
L713[19:10:10] <Supercheese> Easter
Island
L714[19:10:13] <Supercheese> would be
appropriate :D
L715[19:10:19] <Fluburtur> I think it
still has one orbit to go
L716[19:10:26] <Fluburtur> or maybe it is
on the last one
L717[19:10:30] <Fluburtur> im not sure
from the picture
L718[19:10:53] <ve2dmn> Supercheese:
pretty close... but no
L719[19:10:59] <Supercheese> bummer
L720[19:11:08] <Fluburtur> how far away
will this be visible?
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L724[19:17:29] <Fluburtur> this won't be
as emotionnal as the cassini funerals sadly
L725[19:17:43] <Fluburtur> funny how I
have no emotions most of the time but tiny stuff can get to
me
L726[19:18:22] <ve2dmn> Fluburtur: I don't
care about 99.9999% of humans, but I can't get over the fact that
Robin Williams is dead..
L727[19:18:47] <Supernovy> I really liked
Cassini. It's probably my favourite probe ever.
L728[19:19:37] <ve2dmn> Supernovy: it had
a viking funeral... or close to it, I guess
L729[19:20:25] <ve2dmn> Do we have the
last image the probe sent?
L730[19:20:36] <Supernovy> Huygens too.
Saturn's a really neat planet and it's even cooler that we landed
something on Titan.
L731[19:22:23] <ve2dmn> Supernovy: my mind
is blown everyday that we managed to land things on another
planet
L732[19:22:42] <Supernovy> Mars? Or
Venus?
L733[19:23:13] <ve2dmn> 'yes'
L735[19:23:36] <UmbralRaptor> 433
Eros!
L738[19:30:34] <Draconiator> If I lose
connection, it probably smashed into my house.
L739[19:30:35] <ve2dmn> Timje to rentry:
Overflow error
L740[19:34:18] <Draconiator> Update for 8
p.m. EDT: China's Tiangong-1 space station is expected to come
crashing back to Earth on April 1 at 8:30 p.m. EDT (0030 GMT on
April 2), give or take 1 hour 42 minutes, according to the latest
forecast by the Aerospace Corp.
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L742[19:35:32] <Eclipser> well that
aerospace thing is next to useless now
L743[19:35:49] <ve2dmn> yes
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L746[19:45:27] <ve2dmn> It could land in
China.... or Syria
L747[19:45:46] <ve2dmn> both places would
be a real headache
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L749[19:46:53] <Eddi|zuHause> well, it
can't land here. so what do i care... :p
L750[19:47:57] <ve2dmn> Spoken like a true
human
L751[19:49:46] <Eddi|zuHause> no, but
still, the probability is still quite heavily on the "it falls
into water" side...
L753[19:51:52] <Eddi|zuHause> 503
L754[19:52:45] <ve2dmn> wow
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L756[19:55:13] <Eddi|zuHause> ok, site
works now
L757[19:56:38] <ve2dmn> They all seem to
show the same numbers...
L758[19:56:45] <ve2dmn> no idea where they
got it
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L760[20:08:34] <Fluburtur> so did burn up
or not yet
L761[20:08:41] <Fluburtur> buth websites
shwo different stuff
L762[20:08:45] <ve2dmn> no visual
confirmation
L763[20:08:54] <Fluburtur> radar?
L764[20:09:14] <ve2dmn> That's what I'm
trying to find
L765[20:09:23] <ve2dmn> There was no radar
over tha pacific
L766[20:09:37] <Fluburtur> put one
then
L767[20:09:45] <Fluburtur> I need to go to
bed
L768[20:09:52] <Fluburtur> I want to know
if it went poof
L769[20:10:15] <ve2dmn> It will in the
next 30-40min at the least
L770[20:10:23] <ve2dmn> it's just that we
have stale data
L771[20:10:44] <ve2dmn> "Folks, this
is the point when observer reports would be VERY useful. Just
because you find a website that says TIangong is 150 km up right
now doesn't mean it is, they are all running on stale data. Let us
know if you see it - or if you should have seen it but
didn't."
L773[20:10:53] <kmath> <✔planet4589>
Folks, this is the point when observer reports would be VERY
useful. Just because you find a website that says TIan…
https://t.co/7mKRQQAFC9
L774[20:11:21] <Fluburtur> aren't there
observatories in that general area of the world?
L775[20:11:30] <Fluburtur> like the one
that is in argentina or something
L776[20:11:52] <ve2dmn> probably, but I
can't find reliable info from anyone
L777[20:12:17] <Eddi|zuHause> i don't see
how an observatory would help track a space station
L778[20:12:49] <Eddi|zuHause> they're
built to stare at the same spot of the sky for a while, they move
way too slow to follow an object in LEO
L779[20:13:09] <Fluburtur> the dudes
around there probably know about a space station flying a bit too
low
L780[20:13:14] <Fluburtur> so they could
go out with binocs
L781[20:13:34] <Supercheese> no navy
vessels around?
L782[20:13:50] <Supercheese> quiet-ish
part of the world I suppose
L783[20:14:27] <ve2dmn> Accroding to the
Chinese official news service it felt over the south Pacific
L785[20:15:12] <kmath> <✔planet4589>
China (CMSEO) reports reentry at exactly the time and place of
their previous model estimate:…
https://t.co/j8pqJ8qLdn
L786[20:15:28] <Eddi|zuHause> i'm assuming
we would have heard by now if it fell down over inhabited
territory
L787[20:16:20] <ve2dmn> UPDATE: #JFSCC
confirmed #Tiangong1 reentered the atmosphere over the southern
Pacific Ocean
L788[20:17:57] <Eddi|zuHause> how long is
it actually between "reentry" and actual touchdown?
L789[20:18:39] <Eddi|zuHause> assuming
"reentry" is the phase where it gets incredibly hot
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L791[20:20:13] <Fluburtur> if aything
touches down, several minutes I guess
L792[20:21:12] <ve2dmn> it felt into the
water... I doubt we'll hear more
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L794[20:22:45] <Fluburtur> anyways im
going to bed
L795[20:22:51] <Fluburtur> goodbye space
metal tube
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L804[21:02:09] <Blaank> So it's
down?
L805[21:02:20] <Blaank> South pacific
sounds like too good to be true.
L806[21:02:28] <Blaank> That's the perfect
spot for it.
L807[21:02:48] <Blaank> Surely radar could
confirm where it landed from other nations?
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L811[21:24:56] <Neal> what's the system
that handles communication between the pilot and copilot
called?
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L813[21:36:03] <Draconiator> a
headset?
L814[21:42:45] <Neal> I think there's a
specific name for the portion of the radio that lets the crew
members talk
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L818[21:49:27] <Supercheese>
Intercom?
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L834[23:09:37] <Althego> ok you can change
the topic back now
L835[23:10:29] <Supernovy> Ha, didn't even
notice that.
L836[23:10:48] <AlonzoTG> the most
craziest thing I did in kerbal was a part recovery contract on an
old planet factory planet
L837[23:11:03] <AlonzoTG> I had this dinky
little planet down between eve and Moho, iirc.
L838[23:11:12] <AlonzoTG> it had a thin
tenuous atmosphere.
L839[23:11:31] <AlonzoTG> The part to
recover spawned skimming ground level, through the
atmosphere.
L840[23:11:36] <Althego> so tiangong-1
finally died
L841[23:11:42] <AlonzoTG> I took the
contract, for some reason,
L842[23:11:52] <Althego> apparently fell
into the ocean in the middle of nowhere
L843[23:12:13] <AlonzoTG> So when my
grabber got down there it had this one-shot try to get the part
because once the thing came into my physics bubble it would decay
and come down...
L844[23:12:37] <AlonzoTG> so there I was
chasing the thing through a canyon, with aero effects coming off my
craft, going at orbital velocity.
L845[23:12:59] <AlonzoTG> I caught the
sucker and burned hard to orbit.
L846[23:30:27] <Neal> sounds like project
Azorian
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L848[23:31:09] <Neal> except harder
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