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L1[00:01:37] <Althego> spacex in 9
hours
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L3[00:01:55] <TheKosmonaut> cringe: so do
you check it that frequently or do you have a widget on your
desktop
L4[00:04:52] <Althego> frequently? once a
day is not frequent
L5[00:05:05] *** Nekark
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L6[00:08:26] <TheKosmonaut> Althego: how
many times do you check urine levels?
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L9[00:12:01] <Althego> not more than few
times a yeart
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L15[00:25:01] <cringe> meh
L16[00:25:04] <cringe> whenevs
L17[00:25:23] <cringe> i'm a very busy man,
you see
L18[00:25:45] <cringe> when the mood
strikes, i check
L19[00:26:14] <cringe> i'll say, the read
outs tonight, a bit sketch
L20[00:26:32] <cringe> urine processor is
stopped
L21[00:26:40] <cringe> not unexpected, but
rare
L22[00:26:42] <Eddi|zuHause>
<Scolar_Visari> Though the music in the future sucks: The
only genre played on the radio are advertisement jingles. <-- i
have a really vague memory of watching that scene
L23[00:27:06] <cringe> o2 production from
processing down to ~0.16 kg/day
L24[00:27:15] <cringe> usually above 3
kg/day
L25[00:27:56] <Althego> what was this?
demolition man?
L26[00:28:51] <cringe> 3 shells, good
meme
L27[00:29:13] <Althego> we never learned
how the 3 shells work
L28[00:29:21] <Althego> and that annoys me
to this day
L29[00:29:22] <cringe> in any event, it is
all probably due to low occupancy
L30[00:29:49] <Althego> but there was a
soyuz launch a few days ago
L31[00:29:56] <Althego> there should be
maximally occupied
L32[00:30:06] <cringe> pm
L33[00:30:08] <Eddi|zuHause> is that
anything like 3 hazelnuts?
L34[00:30:08] <cringe> :D
L35[00:31:19] <cringe> not sure how to
answer that
L36[00:31:48] <cringe> ops shows 3
doods
L37[00:32:15] <cringe> but maybe thats
limited planner data
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L40[00:33:05] <cringe> oooh, close
L41[00:33:56] <Althego> should be 6 people
now
L42[00:34:16] <Eddi|zuHause> fun fact: that
movie was shot with both chech and german actors, each speaking
their native language, then dubbed into the other one
L43[00:34:28] <Eddi|zuHause> czech
L44[00:35:31] <cringe> you know what was a
good german movie
L45[00:35:32] <cringe> das boot
L46[00:35:58] <Eddi|zuHause> there's like a
dozen differently cut versions of hat
L47[00:36:00] <Eddi|zuHause> *that
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L49[00:36:26] <cringe> i got whatever dvd
version was available in america a dozen years ago
L50[00:36:28] <Eddi|zuHause> like a short
version, a long version, a 3-part version, a 6-part version,
...
L51[00:36:31] <Althego> neverending
story
L52[00:36:52] <cringe> still have it, A++
would watch again
L53[00:37:08] <Eddi|zuHause> very memorable
music
L54[00:37:56] <cringe> captivating
L55[00:39:19] <cringe> really?
L56[00:39:33] <cringe> i left
"cavitating" just sitting there guys
L57[00:39:43] <cringe> come on
L58[00:39:59] <Eddi|zuHause> not a word i
would have ever come up with
L59[00:40:09] <cringe> tough crowd
L60[00:40:22] <Althego> luckily you dont
need to come up with words, others have already done that
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L62[00:40:52] <Althego> like george carlin
said: in my own words? i use the words everybody else is
using
L63[00:41:28] <Eddi|zuHause> as a german
you leanr it's not about the words, it's about how you arrange
them
L65[00:42:31] <Althego> i can confirm
that
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L67[00:43:02] <Althego> i easily spent
there 2 years if i put all the time together :)
L68[00:43:06] <Eddi|zuHause> how many
germans you need to screw in a lightbulb?
L69[00:43:17] <Eddi|zuHause> One! we are
very efficient and not funny.
L70[00:43:23] <Althego> hehe
L71[00:43:26] <cringe> :D
L72[00:43:48] <Althego> actually... german
adherence to rules (even to stupid ones) is a huge hinderance to
accomplish anything
L73[00:44:13] <Eddi|zuHause> yes that is a
bit of a problem
L74[00:44:22] <cringe> one of my favorite
comedians is german
L75[00:44:32] <cringe> flula borg
L76[00:44:35] <cringe> so good
L77[00:44:39] <Eddi|zuHause> like my
employer insisting on some random rule that i should show up before
9AM at work
L78[00:45:36] <Althego> that is easy.
however staying until the afternoon is hard :)
L79[00:46:23] <Eddi|zuHause> that's the fun
part... after 16:00 i'm basically alone at work
L80[00:47:04] <Althego> i used to have
something like that. however since i was often woken up outside
work hours, i decided i ignore the rule, because they ignore it too
:)
L81[00:52:09] <Althego> hehe this flula guy
is good
L82[00:52:34] <Eddi|zuHause> yes, haven't
seen much of him lately
L83[00:54:10] <Eddi|zuHause> i particularly
like the autotunes
L84[00:54:31] <Eddi|zuHause> not too crazy
about the other series he does where he intentionally
misunderstands english idioms
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L86[01:13:45] <TheKosmonaut> cringe: in ten
years, this urine obsession will be your qualification to be a
presenter at the ISS museum years from now
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L88[01:13:49] <TheKosmonaut> "urine
expert"
L89[01:14:28] <TheKosmonaut> They'll have
an Apollo XIII like situation and you'll bust through the doors
with a roll of tape, kotex, and three emptied pens and say "I
have the solution!"
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L91[01:14:52] <TheKosmonaut> "this mad
man is here, claiming to know how to repair the water
purifier"
L92[01:15:25] <Althego> hehe
L93[01:15:36] <Althego> it also generates
oxygen
L94[01:15:45] <Althego> so it is
important
L95[01:15:53] <TheKosmonaut> That's where
the kotex comes n
L96[01:15:57] <TheKosmonaut> In*
L97[01:17:46] <TheKosmonaut> "this is
the same guy that built the emergency storage tanks in 2014 with
nothing but an elastic band, Velcro, a crisp 20 dollar bill, and a
capris sun pakcet
L98[01:17:49] <TheKosmonaut> "
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L104[01:38:38] <Daz> nyan cat, the sign of
mods!
L105[01:39:02] <Althego> what
L106[01:39:17] <Daz> I tried KSP without
mods, no nyan cat :(
L107[01:39:26] <Daz> Modded it again and
nyan cat returned :D
L108[01:39:32] <Daz> (modulemanager adds
it)
L109[01:39:39] <Althego> shouldnt that be
1st of april?
L110[01:39:52] <Daz> afaik it always adds
it
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L112[01:48:07] <Rokker> TheKosmonaut: it's
my fault that cringe is obsessed with the ISS urine levels
L113[01:48:13] <Rokker> I introduced him
to it
L114[01:48:14] <Althego> lol
L115[01:48:34] <Althego> you will carry
that burden as long as you live
L116[01:50:31] <Rokker> cringe: fun fact I
was one of the lead people who prevented that site from getting
shut down. NASA tried to kill it and I found and disseminated the
link to email in order to prevent the shutdown
L117[01:51:26] <Gasher[work]> Rokker,
cool
L118[01:51:49] <Rokker> Gasher[work]: if
it weren't for me we wouldn't know how much pew was on the
ISS
L119[01:51:57] <Rokker> I'm basically a
hero
L120[01:52:06] <Gasher[work]> urine
hero
L121[01:52:20] <Gasher[work]> but don't
get pissed
L122[01:53:34] <kuzetsa> there's an actual
way to get ISS urine tank levels? like an API or some kind of
public data which can be... nope I did not just ask that shut
up
L123[01:53:55] <kuzetsa> D:
L124[01:58:54] <Gasher[work]> kuzetsa,
yes
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L127[02:01:27] <Rokker> kuzetsa: I believe
there is a possible API, I don't remember
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L129[02:05:48] <Rokker> kuzetsa: they lose
signal fairly often tho
L130[02:05:53] <Rokker> so watch out for
thst
L131[02:11:42] <Daz> wife thinks kerbal is
boring, or rather "it's like you're playing excel while
watching paint dry at the same time" please advise on possible
solutions
L133[02:12:52] <Daz> erhm, no :p
L134[02:12:59] <Deddly> Just kidding
;)
L135[02:13:26] <Rokker> im with deddly on
this one
L136[02:13:31] <Rokker> pretty
unavoidable
L137[02:14:04] <Daz> phiew, for a few
seconds there I thought I'd forgotten the parachutes...
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L139[02:14:23] <Deddly> Daz, in all
seriousness, it probably is boring if you have no interest in
building things
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L141[02:14:44] <Daz> true :/
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L143[02:15:27] <Daz> on a totally
unrelated note, now that I'm getting the hang of these new russian
style capsules they're quite nice :)
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L147[02:16:06] <Rokker> you disgust
me
L148[02:16:08] <Rokker> commie
L149[02:16:21] <Rokker> long live the one
true capsule design
L150[02:16:27] <Daz> well I'm a swede
so... <.<
L151[02:16:44] <kubi> god morgon
L152[02:17:04] <Daz> I hear we're dirty
socialist pigs all of us :p
L153[02:17:34] <Rokker> i mean youre no
norway, but you can pull yourself back from the brign
L154[02:17:36] <Rokker> nroml
L155[02:17:39] <Rokker> ...
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L157[02:17:53] <Rokker> dropped something
on my keyboard, ignore that
L158[02:18:14] <TheKosmonaut> Well. You
must drop stuff on your keyboard a lot
L159[02:19:12] <Daz> why does ksp go
invisible whenever I tab to irc on the other screen. Do I need to
play it windowed or something to be able to use other windows
aswell?
L160[02:20:15] <Althego> playing excel is
eve :)
L161[02:20:46] <Daz> Yes! I'm flush with
cash so I can upgrade the VAB :D
L162[02:22:36] <Gasher[work]> Rokker, it's
called fingers
L163[02:23:33] <Rokker> Gasher[work]: it
was actually a water bottle, but sure
L164[02:26:14] <TheKosmonaut> Rokker: I
got so excited. A friend of mine uploaded a photo of him at a gun
range. I thought he did it here in Japan, when I asked, he said it
was in the Philippines
L165[02:26:28] <Rokker> >guns
L166[02:26:32] <Rokker> >japan
L167[02:26:33] <Rokker> heh
L168[02:26:45] <TheKosmonaut> Rokker:
Japan has guns actually
L169[02:27:01] <Rokker> TheKosmonaut: next
ur gonna tell me they have a military
L170[02:27:03] <kubi> guns are useless
against Godzilla
L171[02:27:19] <Althego> all
interdimensional deamons must be killed by a sword :)
L172[02:27:23] <TheKosmonaut> Rokker: I
know a guy that owns shotguns
L173[02:27:29] <TheKosmonaut> And
hunts
L174[02:27:35] <Rokker> uh huh
L175[02:27:45] <TheKosmonaut> Rokker: it's
a pain though.
L176[02:27:53] <kubi> ooo, 142
L177[02:28:44] <Rokker> TheKosmonaut: im
very much aware
L178[02:28:57] <TheKosmonaut> The police
can basically check your house whenever they want, you use a locker
given by then for the gun, and have to use another lock box for the
ammunition. Must be kept in separate rooms. They also have the keys
to it all. And he has a license for each gun and has to go to
classes every year for each license
L179[02:29:07] <TheKosmonaut> By
them*
L180[02:30:05] <kubi> that's good
L181[02:30:26] <kubi> although it does not
help agains the bad people...
L182[02:30:38] <kubi> ckan
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L184[02:30:51] <TheKosmonaut> Ckan users
are bad people. I agree.
L185[02:30:56] <kubi> yes
L186[02:31:07] <kubi> and only the good
die young
L187[02:31:22] <Rokker> TheKosmonaut:
japan has a long history of restricting weapons ownership and look
where it got them
L188[02:31:27] <Rokker> a US
occupation
L189[02:31:37] <Gasher[work]> lol
L190[02:31:40] <Althego> haha
L191[02:31:45] <Althego> usa occupies
everything
L192[02:31:50] <Althego> but that is
politics
L193[02:31:52] <Gasher[work]> it also has
a history of arms development
L194[02:32:20] <Rokker> it also got them
like a half dozen samurai rebellions
L195[02:32:25] <Gasher[work]> hm, who was
the first to mass confiscate weapons from populace?
L196[02:32:32] <Gasher[work]>
tokugawa?
L197[02:33:40] <Rokker> Gasher[work]: all
i know is that the Haitorei Edict happened in 1876
L198[02:34:00] <Rokker> so Meiji
L199[02:34:04] <Gasher[work]> lol
L200[02:34:13] <Rokker> prolly
L201[02:34:36] <Gasher[work]> that was
like start of shogunate after that civil war so they took weapons
off peasants and left samurai with them
L202[02:34:42] <Rokker> TheKosmonaut: why
dont more japanese emperors have nice meiji-like beards
L203[02:34:47] <Gasher[work]> what you say
is the end of the samurai
L204[02:35:03] <TheKosmonaut> Rokker: it's
in the Constitution
L205[02:35:11] <Rokker> TheKosmonaut:
disgusting
L206[02:35:12] <TheKosmonaut> Along with
military restrictions
L207[02:35:21] <TheKosmonaut> Repeal
Article-9, get the beards back
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L210[02:35:59] <Rokker> Gasher[work]: they
left daimyos with weapons but not samurai
L211[02:36:04] <TheKosmonaut> Rokker: as
soon as it happens, Abe will grow a beard. Instantly
L212[02:36:10] <TheKosmonaut> Abae
L213[02:36:36] <Rokker> TheKosmonaut: this
sounds pseudo political
L214[02:36:49] <Rokker> TheKosmonaut: did
you see the glock i want?
L215[02:36:54] <Rokker> its pretty
japanese-y
L216[02:37:00] <Gasher[work]> Rokker, what
i named, they left samurai as ruling class and with weapons
L217[02:37:15] <TheKosmonaut> Rokker: is
it made of Nippon Steeru?
L218[02:37:20] <Rokker> TheKosmonaut:
nah
L219[02:37:28] <TheKosmonaut>
WORTHLESS
L221[02:37:40] <TheKosmonaut> ...
L222[02:37:52] <Gasher[work]> lol
L223[02:37:52] <TheKosmonaut> Does it work
with Duck Hunt?
L224[02:37:57] <Gasher[work]> also
>Glock >steel
L225[02:38:05] <Gasher[work]> isn't it
plastic
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L227[02:38:10] <Rokker> TheKosmonaut: im
sure it would kill at least on duck...
L228[02:38:14] <Rokker> one
L229[02:38:26] <Rokker> or explode ur
screen
L231[02:38:45] <Rokker> mmmmm
L232[02:38:58] <TheKosmonaut> Is the
barrel exposed there?
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L235[02:40:54] <Rokker> TheKosmonaut:
yeah, thats standard on the Glock 34
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L238[02:42:04] <TheKosmonaut> Huh
L239[02:42:07] <TheKosmonaut> That's
pretty cool looking.
L240[02:42:18] <Rokker> TheKosmonaut:
dunno about other glocks, not much of a glock guy
L241[02:42:34] <Rokker> obviously the
barrel is specially machined
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L243[02:43:32] <Gasher[work]> does it need
those grooves to rotate or it's just for fancy cooling?
L244[02:43:58] <Rokker> Gasher[work]: its
just because it looks neat
L245[02:45:28] <Rokker> Gasher[work]:
glock modification is suprisingly common. like not AR-15 common,
but you can easily find cool parts like fluted barrels
L246[02:45:37] <Gasher[work]> aha
L247[02:45:58] <Gasher[work]> Rokker, i'd
say the pinnacle of american gunsmithing is Hi-Point :)
L249[02:46:35] <Rokker> Gasher[work]: and
id say get away from me, you are disgusting
L250[02:46:42] <Gasher[work]> lol
L251[02:46:52] <Gasher[work]> but
really
L252[02:47:17] <Gasher[work]> those look
like paper cups, like buy, use, throw away
L253[02:47:19] <TheKosmonaut> Best
American gun. I'll give you three chances
L254[02:47:31] <Gasher[work]> kentucky
rifle
L255[02:47:39] <Rokker> TheKosmonaut:
GAU-8
L256[02:47:39] <TheKosmonaut> No
L257[02:47:46] <TheKosmonaut> Rokker: I
love you
L258[02:47:55] <TheKosmonaut> You knew
exactly what I was thinking
L259[02:48:10] <Gasher[work]> meh
L260[02:48:11] <Gasher[work]> a
cannon
L261[02:48:13] <TheKosmonaut>
BRRRRRT
L262[02:48:24] <TheKosmonaut>
BBRRRRRTTT
L263[02:48:39] <Rokker> Gasher[work]:
fine, how about the GAU-19
L264[02:48:52] <TheKosmonaut> Rokker: I
love that go pro has given us more CAS footage
L265[02:49:19] <TheKosmonaut> I remember
when I was even in high school, it was like 2 different
videos
L266[02:49:24] <TheKosmonaut> In like
144p
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L268[02:51:11] <TheKosmonaut> It really is
one of the scariest sounds though. Especially when it's from
far.
L269[02:51:22] <Rokker> TheKosmonaut: i
was talking with a discord channel im in about war movies and
documentaries and i said that i wanna see a feature length movie
that is just A-10 footage
L270[02:51:27] <TheKosmonaut> Rokker: that
Chopan, Afghanistan one is the one I always think of
L271[02:51:30] <Rokker> namely blowing
stuff up
L272[02:53:04] <Rokker> TheKosmonaut: i
like the one from 2 months ago where it just punches 4 soccer ball
sized holes in a van in kandahar
L273[02:53:19] <TheKosmonaut> Rokker:
haha. There's a video from the perspective of the plane, I just
noticed it's filed under "Sports" on YouTube
L275[02:54:09] <Rokker> Althego: get out
of my sight
L276[02:54:20] <Althego> i have an
inflatable 707
L277[02:54:35] <Althego> that does the
same :)
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L281[03:00:14] <TheKosmonaut> Althego:
that is ban worthy
L282[03:00:23] <TheKosmonaut> :P
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L286[03:05:40] <kmath> YouTube - This is a
bit random - Vintage Random Number Generator
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L293[03:18:15] <Daz> did science
definitions change somehow in 1.4.2 or can I just slap an old crowd
sourced science mod on it? I can't live without those better
defs!
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L295[03:20:14] <Althego> they shouldnt
have
L296[03:20:29] <Althego> unless further
localization had some side ffects
L297[03:21:32] <Althego> where does the
tiangong 1 land? place your bets now!
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L300[03:23:28] <TheKosmonaut> Althego: in
Australia
L301[03:23:54] <Althego> they have to send
the littering claim to the chinese too :)
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L304[03:29:28] <Daz> hm does mks not add
any heavy lifting stuff to acctually loft things into orbit?
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L308[03:43:02] <Daz> so then comes the
question, wait for the freaking awesomeness that is nearfuture or
"settle" with the awesomeness that is SpaceY... decisions
decisions
L309[03:44:57] <Althego> 5.5 hours until
spacex
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L338[06:43:16] <kerbal022> yo
L339[06:44:04] <kerbal022> can i start a
topic?
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L341[06:44:35] <Althego> lol
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L346[07:11:40] <Althego> 2 hours until
spacex
L347[07:12:26] <Fluburtur> nice
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L356[07:44:04] <ve2dmn> any good android
app with launchlibrary?
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L360[08:09:28] <Valerian> hi, is there
anyone here playing with kerbalism? I seem to have some issue with
commnet, I'm not sure if it's a bug or a feature ...
L361[08:16:09] <Valerian> it seems that
the extra ground stations have a very short range
L362[08:16:35] <Valerian> a vessel on
minmus with a 25Gm antenna can't reach them
L363[08:17:08] <Valerian> sorry, it's a
100Gm antenna
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L365[08:22:37] <Valerian> well, i should
have checked the forum first, it's already discussed there
...
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L368[08:24:54] <GurrenLagannCWP>
hiii
L369[08:24:55] <Mod9000> Hello,
GurrenLagannCWP
L370[08:25:48] <GurrenLagannCWP> Found a
limit in one of the programs used to create solar systems for KSP -
Universe Sandbox 2
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L375[08:31:42] <GurrenLagannCWP> us2 stops
working at 5e+138 giga years
L376[08:32:14] <GurrenLagannCWP> or 5e+147
/
5,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
years
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L378[08:36:58] *
Daz idly ponders why the landing legs keep exploding
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L380[08:43:21] <taniwha> GurrenLagannCWP:
isn't that 1 year? ;)
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L382[08:48:48] <GurrenLagannCWP> taniwha:
scientific notation
L383[08:49:00] <taniwha> GurrenLagannCWP:
division
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L385[08:59:05] <GurrenLagannCWP> taniwha:
that / was a.k.a
L386[08:59:20] <GurrenLagannCWP> us2 stops
working at 5e+138 giga years
L387[08:59:36] <GurrenLagannCWP> or 5e+147
a.k.a
5,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
years
L388[08:59:44] <Fluburtur> spacex
when
L389[08:59:47] <GurrenLagannCWP> happy
now, taniwha
L391[09:00:36] <GurrenLagannCWP> a bug
report*
L392[09:01:41] <Valerian> why am I not
surprised that someone with "Gurren Lagann" in his name
complains about 5e+138 giga years not working :)
L393[09:03:58] <GurrenLagannCWP> Valerian:
you got the reference
L394[09:04:05] <GurrenLagannCWP>
congrats
L395[09:04:16] <GurrenLagannCWP> here is a
spiral trophy
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L399[09:08:14] <tank> Hi o/
L400[09:08:31] <GurrenLagannCWP> hii
tank
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L403[09:16:32] <fakeTank2333> Dmnit i
missed the launch
L404[09:16:40] <GurrenLagannCWP> me
too
L405[09:17:14] <Fluburtur> Althego
why
L406[09:17:20] <Fluburtur> why didn't you
spam the link of the launch
L407[09:17:36] <GurrenLagannCWP> Althego:
you made us miss everything
L408[09:17:55] <Althego> what why
L409[09:18:02] <Mat2ch> I'm wondering why
they don't land the first stage today
L410[09:18:13] <fakeTank2333> Fairing
recovery \o/
L411[09:18:14] <Althego> it was 14:13
utc
L412[09:18:20] <Fluburtur> probably an old
one they don't want
L413[09:18:27] <Althego> and i slept
through it
L414[09:18:44] <Mat2ch> and throwing it
into the ocean is cheaper than recycling it? Ts
L415[09:19:47] <Althego> you could have
highlighted me a few minutes earlier
L416[09:19:48] <fakeTank2333> Maybe its an
old block wich they didnt plan on refly
L417[09:20:36] <Fluburtur> egg
L418[09:20:42] <Mat2ch> iirc it is really
an old block
L419[09:21:05] <Mat2ch> but they could've
landed it and scrapped it and not just pollute the ocean further
:P
L420[09:21:21] <Mat2ch> I know, all the
other agencies are doing the same, but SpaceX has the option to do
better
L421[09:21:27] <Fluburtur> they will
probably do an experimental landing
L422[09:21:32] <GurrenLagannCWP>
Fluburtur: what launch you arre talking about? The Tesla one?
L423[09:21:36] <Fluburtur> that might
accidentally work
L424[09:21:54] <Mat2ch> well, they're
invoking a landing sequence, but they're not showing it. Which is
kinda boring. I'm only here for the landing. :D
L425[09:22:16] <Fluburtur> maybe they will
show the fairing grabber
L426[09:22:24] <GurrenLagannCWP> what
launch
L428[09:22:41] <kmath> YouTube - Iridium-5
Mission
L429[09:22:42] <Fluburtur> the one right
now
L430[09:23:20] <fakeTank2333> Is that a
new guy?
L431[09:23:27] <Althego> hehe it is the
guy with the face from the falcon heavy launch
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L433[09:23:52] <GurrenLagannCWP_> had to
restart because of lag
L434[09:24:00] <fakeTank2333> HP
advertisements :)
L435[09:24:47] <fakeTank2333> The most
boring falcon launch ever
L436[09:25:02] <Mat2ch> they have to pause
the broadcast because of the NOAA? What? Why?
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L438[09:25:31] <Mat2ch> fakeTank2333: not
the most boring, but one of them. They did several launches without
a landing
L440[09:26:29] <kmath> <✔elonmusk>
Attempting recovery of fairing falling down from space (right now)
with our boat, Mr Steven. It’s a giant steel & w…
https://t.co/Mexy7WWh3i
L441[09:27:55] <Althego> mr steven?
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L445[09:30:35] <GurrenLagannCWP_> anyone
have a image of the Falcon 9 Full Thrust Block 4?
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L447[09:31:05] <Fluburtur> I think they
are making the block 5 now
L448[09:31:34] <GurrenLagannCWP> But i
need the Block 4
L449[09:32:01] <GurrenLagannCWP> because
Iridium-5 was in the Block 4
L450[09:32:34] <Daz> this mks stuff is
funny, I don't even know what mulch is but I'm producing a lot of
it :D
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L453[09:38:27] <GurrenLagannCWP> making
the Iridium-5 payload...
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L455[09:39:22] <Althego> anyway, i told
you the launch is happening, if you cant look up a link in several
hours, that is your problem
L456[09:39:24] <Tank2333> Mulch is
nutrient rich dirt gor plants
L457[09:39:29] <Tank2333> For
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L461[09:47:54] <GurrenLagannCWP> i
finished my Falcon 9 Full Thrust Block 4 replica
L462[09:48:23] <GurrenLagannCWP> on
another game similar to KSP because KSP is waay too laggy at
launch
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L464[09:56:28] <Althego> what, now you can
go up to 800 parts easily
L465[09:56:43] <Vae> is any mod using
RasterPropMonitor these days, that's compatible with current
KSP?
L466[09:58:02] <GurrenLagannCWP> Althego:
still at 1.3.1
L467[09:58:16] <GurrenLagannCWP> remenber
my ram?
L468[09:58:22] <GurrenLagannCWP>
3072
L469[09:58:23] <Althego> and thet
statement still stands
L470[09:58:57] <GurrenLagannCWP> Althego:
i think you forgot my ram
L471[10:01:52] *
GurrenLagannCWP updates KSP to 1.4.2 since the bugs are
gone
L472[10:02:47] <GurrenLagannCWP> OMG 2.2
GB
L473[10:02:53] <GurrenLagannCWP> JUST
KSP
L474[10:02:56] <GurrenLagannCWP>
1.4.2
L475[10:02:59] <GurrenLagannCWP> WTF
L476[10:03:04] <Kalpa> Language.
L477[10:03:21] <GurrenLagannCWP>
sorry
L478[10:03:26] <Althego> plus the
expansion because that was also updated
L479[10:03:31] <GurrenLagannCWP> lol
L480[10:04:03] <GurrenLagannCWP> and in
1.5 we will get a multiverse of bugs
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L483[10:04:55] <GurrenLagannCWP> 10%
L484[10:04:56] <Vae> Doesn't everyone know
you're required to never increase requirements for a game after you
release the first version? ;)
L485[10:05:18] <GurrenLagannCWP> Universe
Sandbox 2...
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L487[10:06:29] <GurrenLagannCWP> Vae:
Universe Sandbox 2's developers doesn't know that
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L489[10:08:02] *
Vae deorbits a capsule from 180km peri because of a Munar encounter
after this pass that will escape kerbin :(
L490[10:08:11] <Vae> (with spacesuit
monoprop)
L491[10:08:34] <GurrenLagannCWP> lol
L492[10:08:46] <GurrenLagannCWP> Mun
always ruin everything
L493[10:09:36] <GurrenLagannCWP> 670 MB
out of 2.2 GB
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L496[10:12:00] <Althego> hehe, what is ngc
1337? :)
L497[10:12:20] <GurrenLagannCWP> 900 MB
out of 2.2 GB at 1.37 mb/s
L498[10:12:47] <GurrenLagannCWP> Althego:
its a galaxy
L499[10:13:26] <GurrenLagannCWP> 1 GB out
of 2.2 GB
L500[10:14:37] <GurrenLagannCWP> soo slow
to download KSP 1.4.2
L501[10:14:55] <GurrenLagannCWP> 1.2 GB
out of 2.2
L502[10:15:02] <GurrenLagannCWP> ...
GB
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L505[10:23:11] <GurrenLagannCWP> almost
there
L506[10:23:21] <GurrenLagannCWP> 2 GB out
of 2.2 GB
L507[10:25:33] <GurrenLagannCWP>
done
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L509[10:34:39] <Vae> 40 dV so far reduced,
still have an encounter with Mun but it's not an escape :D
L510[10:36:07] <Althego> dormammu, i have
come to bargain
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L512[10:40:28] <Vae> woo, suit monoprop
from Munar slingshot kerbin escape to Munar Free Return!
L513[10:41:00] <Vae> took about 50ish
dV
L514[10:43:26] <Daz> it's about 1200dv
from Mun to Mun orbit for a newb right?
L515[10:43:39] <taniwha> no, should be
about 800
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L517[10:43:50] <taniwha> landing might be
about 1200
L518[10:43:51] <Daz> aye, but for someone
who'll do it badly :p
L519[10:44:08] <taniwha> it's hard to do
Mun launch that badly
L520[10:44:59] <Daz> maybe, I'll just go
about assuming that my 2.3k dV stage will take me from mun surface
back to kerbin :)
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L525[10:49:15] <Vae> wait a sec, Mun to
Mun orbit? it's not 1200 or 800 is it?
L527[10:49:42] <taniwha> Vae: 800 is a
nice safe budget
L528[10:50:00] <Vae> 580 to munar orbit of
14km (back in 1.3)
L529[10:50:05] <taniwha> 600-700 is
skilled
L530[10:50:11] <Daz> why oh why do my
landing legs keep exploding -.-
L531[10:50:28] <Vae> Daz - toothpick
legs?
L532[10:50:31] <Daz> even when I spawn a
lander on the launchpad they go kabloomy, must be a mod screwing
something up
L533[10:50:37] <Daz> Vae nah the
"normal" ones
L534[10:50:45] <Vae> which part
name?
L535[10:51:00] <Daz> LT-1 Landing
Struts
L536[10:51:00] <Althego> didnt intel make
the smallest computer a few days ago?
L537[10:52:20] <Althego> no it was
ibm
L539[10:52:34] <Draconiator> IBM claims
the computer has the power of an x86 chip from 1990. That puts it
exactly on the edge of enough power to run the original Doom (the
original README.TXT for Doom says a 386 processor and 4MB of RAM is
the minimum). - This is IBMs new 1MM SQUARE machine mind you
L540[10:52:38] <Vae> Daz: huh. dunno.
should be good to 12 m/s
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L542[10:52:51] <Daz> ugh how do I take
screenshots in ksp?
L543[10:52:58] <Vae> Draconiator: how big
is the keyboard ^_^
L544[10:53:04] <Draconiator> LOL
L545[10:53:16] <Draconiator> Tiny.
L546[10:53:34] <Vae> it's a touch
interface... you touch it and it shatters :D
L547[10:53:42] <Althego> hehe
L548[10:54:06] <GurrenLagannCWP>
Draconiator: press F1 or F12
L549[10:54:09] <GurrenLagannCWP> idk
L551[10:55:01] <kmath> YouTube - How Fast
Can You Travel Around the World?
L553[10:57:14] <Daz> hm isn't there
supposed to be a log somewhere? How do I see it?
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L556[10:58:20] <Daz> not that one, iirc
you could access it from a cheatmenu?
L557[10:58:55] <JMKerman> Hi, in the Vis
viva equation, what is the radius parameter exactly? Eg, In an
orbit of 500000 PE and 900000 AP over the Mun, what is the
radius?
L558[10:58:56] <Vae> dunno. do you really
want all those engines?
L559[10:58:57] <GurrenLagannCWP>
crash
L560[10:59:21] <JMKerman> I get the SMA,
but the radius depends on the time
L561[10:59:51] <GurrenLagannCWP> KSP 1.4.2
crashed on my PC
L562[11:01:33] <Daz> Vae good call, I used
fuel lines instead so I can land using the outer tanks and take of
using the middle ones :D
L563[11:02:09] <Vae> what's on the far
side of that lander?
L564[11:02:16] <Vae> behind your
RCS?
L565[11:02:31] <Daz> I don't have
rcs
L566[11:03:28] <Vae> i mean your
"Advanced Inline Stabilizer"
L568[11:04:24] <Vae> uhm... are you
leaving the science jr behind?
L569[11:04:44] <Daz> indeed, I'll jank the
science out of it using a scientist
L570[11:04:50] <Vae> rgr, cool.
L571[11:04:54] <Daz> it's the 3 kerbal pod
:)
L572[11:05:05] <Daz> sending valentina,
bob and bill to land on the mun
L573[11:07:53] <Vae> my lander's not so
fancy, just a mk2 pod. :D
L574[11:08:28] <Daz> that's what I usually
do but wanted to try something different this time :)
L575[11:09:21] <Vae> my last munar
landing, my legs snapped off but i got a safe landing on the engine
bell lol
L576[11:09:28] <Vae> didn't realize it
until it was upright and stable :D
L577[11:15:11] <Daz> hmpf this
launchplatform might need 3 stages :/
L578[11:15:22] <Daz> don't have engines
strong enough yet
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L581[11:17:12] <Vae> Daz: clustered 45's
works good :D
L582[11:17:42] <Daz> oooh I did unlock
some kind of clustering thing in the last sciencenode, forgot about
that
L583[11:17:44] <Vae> my current munar
mission lift platform involves 18 LV-T45's
L584[11:19:07] <Draconiator> One of my
launch vehicles is based on the real life Falcon, 16 Thuds for the
first stage.
L585[11:22:51] <Daz> teh heck
L586[11:22:57] <Daz> are engine plates
also decouplers?
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L591[11:41:57] <GurrenLagannCWP> Hi
Ezriilc
L592[11:42:24] <Ezriilc> Hi!
L593[11:42:48] <Daz> Know what is a pretty
good thing to have on your lander? Solar panels...
L594[11:42:59] <GurrenLagannCWP> I really
want to create planets using HyperEdit, because Kopernicus's code
may be hard to figure out...
L595[11:43:15] <GurrenLagannCWP> and even
harder to make it work...
L596[11:44:00] <Ezriilc> Well, HyperEdit
was never desinged to create planets, but this does raise a
question we've been considering...
L597[11:44:32] <Ezriilc> Because
Kopernicus exists, we were thinking of stripping out HyperEdit's
planet stuff.
L598[11:44:41] <GurrenLagannCWP> Wy
L599[11:44:45] <GurrenLagannCWP>
why*
L600[11:45:06] <Ezriilc> Since Kopernicus
is already handling it.
L601[11:45:19] <Ezriilc> But, it's not
carved in stone just yet.
L602[11:45:42] <GurrenLagannCWP> But
Kopernicus is HARD for me
L603[11:46:08] <Ezriilc> I've also gotten
a suggestion to add editing the SOI of planets.
L604[11:46:11] <Ezriilc> I
understand.
L605[11:46:43] <Ezriilc> I'm not an expert
in C#/Unity/KSP API stuff by a long shot.
L606[11:46:56] <GurrenLagannCWP> :(
L607[11:47:00] <Ezriilc> I didn't create
HyperEdit, I just take care of it.
L608[11:47:13] <Ezriilc> But don't
dispair!
L609[11:47:58] <Ezriilc> We have an
excellent community of really smart people here, and that is how I
maintain my mods.
L610[11:48:21] <GurrenLagannCWP> I really
enjoy the planet editor, deleting it would cause me to go Super
Saiyan
L611[11:48:22] <Fluburtur> time to try
designing a drive mechanism for my telescope
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L613[11:49:57] <GurrenLagannCWP> And i'm
not the only one that loves the planet editor!
L614[11:50:23] <Ezriilc> That's great to
know!
L615[11:50:37] <Ezriilc> Your opinion is
very important to me.
L616[11:50:47] <GurrenLagannCWP> NP
L618[11:51:06] <GurrenLagannCWP>
Yes!
L619[11:51:10] <Ezriilc> Feel free to
comment on any issues that matter to you.
L620[11:51:18] <GurrenLagannCWP> Ok
then
L621[11:52:00] <GurrenLagannCWP> I wish i
could make planets using HyperEdit, then THAT would be a major
update
L623[11:52:18] <GurrenLagannCWP> but at
least make it compatible with .
L624[11:52:41] <GurrenLagannCWP> ...1.3.1,
because that's the latest version i can run
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L626[11:53:07] <Vae> lol. "please,
make code changes for just one guy"
L627[11:54:32] <Vae> hmm... does
aerodynamics align to surface or orbital gimbal?
L628[11:56:27] <Ezriilc> GurrenLagannCWP,
it may not be perfect, but I thought that our latest release was
working for 1.3.1. That is the version we were targeting.
L629[11:56:52] <Pakaran> Wow, this
youtuber (though I do plan to borrow a lot of his ideas) is
hardcore.
L630[11:56:54] <Ezriilc> And... now that
we have one working on 1.4.1... 1.4.2 comes out.
L631[11:57:18] <Pakaran> He's testing Mun
landers to build into a base in the grassland beside KSC
L633[11:57:26] <kmath> YouTube - Kerbal
Space Program - Multiplanetary Species Episode 11
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L635[11:57:52] <Pakaran> one of very few
people that seem to be running UKS and making permanent
bases.
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L637[11:58:07] <Ezriilc> That's how I do
my rover testing, but I also use HyperEdit to alter Kerbin's
gravity and whatnot to whichever planet I hope to land on.
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L639[11:58:53] <Pakaran> I think he's
using a Terrier and a very small tank, so it does have higher
thrust than the eventual lander.
L640[11:59:05] <Pakaran> but even so,
powered landing on Kerbin is scary.
L641[11:59:11] <Ezriilc> GurrenLagannCWP,
if you ever need any help, feel free to contact me directly, here,
on my site, in the forum, or on GitHub.
L642[12:00:06] <GurrenLagannCWP> Ok,
Ezriilc!
L643[12:00:49] <Pakaran> Ezriilc, I'm
thinking that just because I had crashes that led to missing
tourist missions on several occasions *after* the Mun flyby, I'm
just going to Hyperedit myself 200k or so funds.
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L645[12:01:17] <Pakaran> it almost seems
more fair than having to play the full missions over to get to
where I was.
L646[12:01:38] <Pakaran> I mean, it still
won't count towards number of tourists for some Tourism+
things.
L647[12:01:39] <Ezriilc> Wait, does
HyperEdit even do that?! lol
L648[12:01:43] <Pakaran> Not
Hyperedit...
L649[12:01:53] <Pakaran> I was trying to
figure out HOW to do it, before, lol
L650[12:02:01] <Pakaran> can't even open
HE from the space center.
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L652[12:02:13] <Pakaran> I think that's
the alt-F12 screen I was thinking of, lol.
L653[12:02:27] <Ezriilc> Nah, gotta be in
flight or Tracking center.
L654[12:02:32] <RhineBTV> It's 1 PM on a
Friday and here I am watching a video about VCR technology
L655[12:02:46] <Ezriilc> Not a bad idea
for an addition to HyperEdit, though.
L656[12:02:46] <ConductorCat> On
VHS?
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L658[12:02:51] <RhineBTV> No, on
youtube
L659[12:02:54] <Pakaran> RhineBTV, Make
sure you rewind it for the evening shift.
L660[12:03:01] <RhineBTV> Apparently
there's magic inside a VCR and I need to know what it is
L662[12:03:10] <kmath> YouTube - The
Impossible Feat inside Your VCR
L663[12:03:13] <KingJJG> what are some
good skybox packs
L664[12:03:17] <Ezriilc> VCRs had some
cool tech in them.
L665[12:03:32] <Ezriilc> And the last
manufacturer only recently stopped building them.
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L667[12:03:50] <Pakaran> the NSA has tiny
genetically modified men that sit inside the VCR. their brains are
connected to the read heads, and then they act out the script
they're fed in front of a little tiny TV camera.
L668[12:04:02] <Pakaran> And then that
plugs to the output jack, duh.
L669[12:04:02] <RhineBTV> That's a pretty
cool channel, btw, dude goes over a lot of different older tech and
stuff like that
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L671[12:04:16] <Pakaran> The really hard
part is fitting all the costumes into the casette for something
like the Return of the King.
L672[12:04:29] <RhineBTV> And it's
sometimes weird random stuff, like the ringing sound old rotary
phones used
L674[12:06:02] <Pakaran> so, hmm
L675[12:06:11] <Pakaran> a big part of why
I ask so many questions here, honestly.
L676[12:06:21] <GurrenLagannCWP> I'm not a
coding expert, like you
L677[12:06:57] <Pakaran> I'm playing
Kerbal Star Systems, which among other things moves Minmus to be a
short period comet, and adds a bunch of stuff in the Kerbin
system.
L678[12:07:21] <GurrenLagannCWP> Pakaran:
you must have a GAMING PC then
L679[12:07:35] <Ezriilc> I'm certainly no
expert in C#.
L680[12:07:45] <Pakaran> But it also does
a slight difficulty increase, which you don't really notice in
flight -- everything is exactly 1/10 Sol system, so Kerbin is
slightly wider and less dense than stock.
L681[12:07:52] <Pakaran> GurrenLagannCWP,
actually it works fine on my core 5 laptop
L682[12:08:14] <GurrenLagannCWP> Because
my PC is soo bad that it cant run any planet pack whatsoever
L683[12:08:28] <Pakaran> I get lag looking
at the ground in flight with scatterer installed.
L684[12:08:37] <Pakaran> It's really more
memory that's the issue, and I have 8 gig of that.
L685[12:08:56] <GurrenLagannCWP> I have 3
gig only
L686[12:09:02] <GurrenLagannCWP> it cant
run OPM
L687[12:09:38] <Pakaran> Anyhow, though,
the bigger Kerbin means I'm *never* sure what delta-V to plan for,
because I know it's more than the official "subway map",
and enough more to badly cut into safety margins, but I'm never
sure how much more.
L688[12:09:42] <Pakaran> Is there a
formula?
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L691[12:10:57] <GurrenLagannCWP> Pakaran:
laptop.... i have a 2006-2009 era COMPUTER
L693[12:12:36] <Pakaran> is pretty close,
if you replace moon with mun
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L695[12:13:13] <Pakaran> I have this weird
idea that I can just divide that whole map by the square root of
10.
L696[12:13:27] <Pakaran> but I'm not sure
why that trick works, or where I remember it from.
L697[12:15:17] <Pakaran> I can't find
*anyone* doing more than a single video with KSS installed
L698[12:16:21] <GurrenLagannCWP> Pakaran:
Not even Kottabos?
L699[12:18:26] <GurrenLagannCWP> Any good
mods that can run on a 3 gig-ram pc?
L700[12:19:26] <RhineBTV> The best way I
could think to convert is maybe use MJ and check your gravity
losses with a solid gravity turn
L701[12:19:36] <RhineBTV> it's usually
around 1km/s in stock system
L702[12:19:45] <Pakaran> thanks
L703[12:19:47] <RhineBTV> to get into like
75x75km
L704[12:19:55] <Pakaran> or just
experience.
L705[12:20:09] <Pakaran> I always include
margins, it's also handy for orbital maneuvering
L706[12:20:29] <Pakaran> and I figure to
start doing opportunistic rescues soon with tourist craft, so
yeah.
L707[12:21:02] <Pakaran> hmm, if I do the
rescue before munar transfer, they'll "start out" leveled
up, no?
L708[12:21:53] <RhineBTV> doing it via
gravity also probably depends on how the atmo is handled as well --
my 1km/s average comes with using FAR (have been using it as long
as it's been around) and I know you are able to shave a bit off
with it compared to the "subway" dV maps you're referring
to
L709[12:22:39] <RhineBTV> might be
somewhere around 100m/s more than the 1km/s I usually get as
gravity loss
L710[12:24:56] <GurrenLagannCWP> Instaling
TweakScale...
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L715[12:36:53] <RhineBTV> anyone in here
ever mess around with configs for procedural parts, particularly
the tanks?
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L717[12:37:26] <RhineBTV> got a Q about a
part of the cfg that is rarely used and I'm not sure of the range
of its values or how to derive them
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L719[12:42:01] <RhineBTV>
https://imgur.com/a/Y6Oi0 -- the specular value
listed in the first group, when I originally made the texture red,
it left a specular that was "brassy" or gold in color as
exists in the regular part, so I'm assuming those are rgb
values
L721[12:42:56] <RhineBTV> I'd imagine the
values range from 0 to 1, but I'd like some kind of affirmation
before trying a dozen different variants, or a way to come up with
a value based on the base hue of the texture
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L723[12:46:52] <GlassYuri> ...is
"Copyright 2018 Twitter User @glsfrg. All rights
reserved." legally valid
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L726[12:47:38] <SnoopJeDi> the question
doesn't make much sense out of its context
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L728[12:47:47] <SnoopJeDi> if you're
asking if online aliases are valid for copyright, the answer is
yes
L729[12:48:34] <SnoopJeDi> (in the US at
least)
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L732[12:49:09] <RhineBTV> I'd imagine it
would be similar in most western countries, as much more strict
patent law tends to apply pretty well across them
L733[12:49:59] <RhineBTV> if you can
secure a patent in one, usually it's not a problem across any EU
country and the "Five Eyes"
L734[12:50:23] <RhineBTV> and most
anything submitted to public domain is generally considered
copyrighted material
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L737[12:50:55] <SnoopJeDi> yea pseudonyms
aren't at all unusual so I can't imagine it'd be different most
anywhere
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L739[12:51:06] <SnoopJeDi> RhineBTV, er?
public domain is the antithesis of copyrighted material
L740[12:51:30] <SnoopJeDi> or do you just
mean "public"
L741[12:51:37] <RhineBTV> I mean it more
just in the context of putting it out for consumption
L742[12:51:42] <RhineBTV> not like a
public domain license
L743[12:51:45] <RhineBTV> bad
wording
L744[12:51:49] <SnoopJeDi> ah okay
L745[12:52:17] <RhineBTV> like you don't
even have to say something is copyrighted material for it to be
copyrighted
L746[12:52:19] <SnoopJeDi> yea, copyright
is nominally always the case, and permission is an exception to
that rule: it's why it's such bad form not to explicitly license
your material
L747[12:52:25] <RhineBTV> it's sort of
assumed
L748[12:52:31] <SnoopJeDi> and yet, so
many projects on GitHub have no LICENSE file :(
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L758[13:11:13] <Mat2ch> so... I just
landed my Duna lander, which I landed in 1.4.1 several times fine
and all of my landing legs exploded
L759[13:11:23] <Mat2ch> No, I didn't
overstress them
L760[13:11:33] <Fluburtur> the update just
broke stuff
L761[13:11:44] <Fluburtur> but hey maye
the DLC can fix that
L762[13:11:48] <Mat2ch> Sounds like Squad,
but it aint Squad. :D
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L765[13:19:25] <mib_3ww53j> Anyone use the
kRPC mod? Is there any way to transfer science to a storage
unit?
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L771[13:27:48] <kmath> YouTube - Puzzle
Plank Galaxy - Super Mario Galaxy 2 Music Extended
L772[13:27:55] <Althego> (because of
shimakaze :))
L773[13:29:12] <RhineBTV> alright, I think
it's time to boot up ksp and try to fix this biplane
L774[13:29:37] <GurrenLagannCWP> Althego:
omg more SMG
L775[13:29:56] <RhineBTV> also, on that
note, anyone messed with editing CFGs for the Airplanes Plus
engines?
L776[13:30:20] <Althego> why would you do
that
L777[13:30:43] <RhineBTV> because I duped
one engine and wish to make it slightly more powerful so I can use
it for this particular vehicle
L778[13:31:06] <RhineBTV> I changed the
"standing thrust", which is fine, but they don't operate
the same way as other engines
L779[13:31:14] <RhineBTV> there's some
weird drop-off scale that I'm not sure how it works
L780[13:32:53] <kubi> eve
L781[13:33:27] <NolanSyKinsley> Anyone
good with math? If a satellite is transmitting at a 21,000km orbit
and is moved into a 320km orbit, how much more powerful is the
signal on the ground? I can't find a calculator that would tell
me
L782[13:33:28] <RhineBTV> like the
standard is 54kn, so I bumped it up to 90, but upon accelerating
(after leaving brakes on to let it spool up), the thrust
drops
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L784[13:34:54] <RhineBTV> there is one
field called velCurve with a bunch of key = parameters, but I've no
idea how to interpret them
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L786[13:36:36] <Althego> i think it is in
mach
L787[13:36:46] <Althego> and it is engine
perofrmance vs speed
L788[13:37:04] <Althego> there is an other
curve, atm or atmospherecurve
L789[13:37:09] <RhineBTV> yeah
L790[13:37:12] <Althego> that is engine
performance vs altitude
L791[13:37:22] <Althego> or
pressure?
L792[13:37:33] <RhineBTV> well, I would
deal with that after I figure out the "thrust"
dropoff
L793[13:37:45] <RhineBTV> have you ever
watched the rightclick window with them when you turn the engine
on?
L794[13:37:54] <RhineBTV> once you start
moving the kn output drops off
L795[13:38:32] <RhineBTV> my problem could
simply be something to do with my col/com, so I should probably
just toy with that first
L796[13:39:20] <Althego> com doesnt
influence engien thrust
L797[13:39:36] <Althego> and different
engines behave differently regarding speed
L798[13:39:39] <UmbralRaptop>
NolanSyKinsley: As in altitudes? Also, ignoring that the satellite
might be at a varying angle?
L799[13:39:40] <Althego> some get worse
with speed
L800[13:39:46] <NolanSyKinsley> yes
L801[13:40:11] <Althego> some have a
slight dip before starting to really kick in (looking at you
rapiers)
L802[13:40:23] <N70> making history parts
are gud
L803[13:40:25] <darsie> NolanSyKinsley:
Inverse square law: irradiance=k/r^2; So
irradiance1/irradiance2=(k/r1^2)/(k/r2^2)=r2^2/r1^2
L804[13:40:33] <Althego> but after a while
all jets lose thrust given high enough speeds
L805[13:40:36] <RhineBTV> oh, I know it
doesn't effect thrust, I just mean my ability to attain
flight
L806[13:41:04] <RhineBTV> but I feel
that's not the issue because even using the end of the runway I
can't get enough lift
L808[13:41:20] <Althego> oh thast is the
main landing gear position
L809[13:41:24] <Althego> move it closer to
com
L810[13:41:27] <NolanSyKinsley> I have no
idea what to dow ith that darsie
L811[13:41:27] <N70> can anyone here help
with signal math on Kerbalism?
L812[13:41:34] <Althego> unless you have
canards that lift the nose
L813[13:41:41] <Althego> normal surfaces
can only move the tail down
L814[13:41:43] <RhineBTV> yeah, but if it
was with the gear alone I would get something after leaving the
runway
L815[13:41:45] <Althego> for a
liftoff
L816[13:41:47] <GurrenLagannCWP>
MAAAAATH
L817[13:41:53] <darsie> NolanSyKinsley:
320^2/21000^2
L818[13:41:59] <Althego> and for that
lever is important
L820[13:42:19] <Althego> if the landing
gear is close to com, it is easy to rotate it on the gear by the
down force
L821[13:42:35] <UmbralRaptop> ;c
(21000/320)^2
L822[13:42:35] <kmath> UmbralRaptop:
4306.640625
L823[13:42:36] <RhineBTV> yeah, I know,
but I'm not getting any even after leaving the runway when the gear
are irrelevant
L824[13:42:54] <Althego> dormammu, i have
come to bargain
L825[13:43:03] <UmbralRaptop> ;c
20*log10(21000/320)
L826[13:43:03] <kmath> UmbralRaptop:
Unknown Token
L827[13:43:11] <UmbralRaptop> ;wa
20*log10(21000/320)
L828[13:43:13] <kmath> UmbralRaptop: 20
log(10, 21000/320) = (20 log(525/8))/log(10)
L829[13:43:21] <UmbralRaptop> …
L830[13:43:22] <Althego> then
picture
L831[13:43:28] <UmbralRaptop> ;wa
20*log10(21000.0/320)
L832[13:43:30] <kmath> UmbralRaptop: 20
log(10, 21000.0/320): 36.34139...
L833[13:43:35] <Althego> yes, this bot
never helps in calculations
L834[13:45:03] <darsie> NolanSyKinsley:
4307 times as "powerful".
L835[13:45:17] <UmbralRaptop> 36 dB
L836[13:45:19] <GurrenLagannCWP>
1312.5
L837[13:45:32] <UmbralRaptop>
<_<
L838[13:45:54] <GurrenLagannCWP> 20
log(10, 21000/320) = 1312.5
L839[13:45:58] <Althego> heh insight is
launching in a few months
L840[13:46:18] <GurrenLagannCWP> correct
answer is 20 log(10, 21000/320) = 1312.5, dumb bot
L841[13:46:25] <Althego> i remember when
it was postponed. and it must have been around 2 years ago or even
more. seems it was a short while
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L843[13:47:06] *
UmbralRaptop stares at GurrenLagannCWP
L844[13:47:26] <GurrenLagannCWP> what do
you want
L845[13:47:35] <GurrenLagannCWP> are you
jelaous, UmbralRaptop
L846[13:47:49] <UmbralRaptop> just checked
in python, and got 36.341…
L847[13:48:12] <GurrenLagannCWP> wtf
L848[13:48:24] <GurrenLagannCWP> i did in
my own calculator
L849[13:48:32] <GurrenLagannCWP> and i got
1312.5
L850[13:49:03] <RhineBTV> Also, in
general, .76 TWR should be enough for a "properly"
configured plane to fly, right?
L851[13:49:39] <Althego> even lower
L852[13:49:52] <RhineBTV> What's like the
basement for that?
L853[13:49:56] <Althego> some of my sstos
start even lower
L854[13:50:45] <GurrenLagannCWP> Great,
now i got 37.573307753210506012908887271762...
L855[13:50:56] <Althego> lol
L856[13:51:36] <bees> RhineBTV: you need
~0.3 TWR to fly iirc
L857[13:51:44] <GurrenLagannCWP>
iirc
L858[13:51:51] <GurrenLagannCWP> what is
that
L859[13:51:58] <UmbralRaptop> RhineBTV:
yes, though it won't be good for flying to orbit.
L860[13:52:01] <GurrenLagannCWP> IRC
2.0?
L861[13:52:03] <RhineBTV> alright, I'm
gonna try with the default one again and just mess around with the
location of the lifting surfaces
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L863[13:52:15] <GurrenLagannCWP>
UmbralRaptop: Great, now i got
37.573307753210506012908887271762...
L864[13:52:22] <RhineBTV> I think my issue
might just be going for aesthetic over functionality
L865[13:52:29] <UmbralRaptop> IIRC = If I
Recall Correctly
L866[13:52:32] <Althego> or will it?
because of all the good jets getting more thrust with higher
speeds
L867[13:53:12] <GurrenLagannCWP>
UmbralRaptop: 20 * log(10 + (21000/320)) =
37.573307753210506012908887271762...
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L869[13:53:20] <UmbralRaptop> Ah. I sorta
assumed a bad jet
L870[13:53:26] <UmbralRaptop> …
L871[13:53:38] <RhineBTV> Well it's just a
biplane I'm making for no reason other than to make one
L872[13:53:42] <UmbralRaptop> base 10 log,
not Log(10 + stuff)
L873[13:53:48] <RhineBTV> I'm not really
concerned about going to orbit or even flying to the poles
L874[13:53:55] <RhineBTV> Just trying to
make one
L875[13:54:02] <bees> then 0.3 twr should
be fine
L876[13:54:22] <RhineBTV> once this boots
up I'll take a screen of it
L877[13:54:35] <bees> if you dont save on
lifting surfaces
L878[13:54:49] <RhineBTV> also I think I
need to reinstall scatterer, because the main menu thing isn't even
appearing
L879[13:54:53] <bees> or try to lift
several full mk3 fuel fuselages at once
L880[13:55:48] <GurrenLagannCWP> refresh a
page = crash
L881[13:55:51] <GurrenLagannCWP> wut
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L886[14:01:53] <RhineBTV> and that's with
the default engine, the editied one bumps the twr up to .76
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L889[14:02:56] <GurrenLagannCWP>
UmbralRaptop: stop quitting
L890[14:03:43] <Althego> and make your
name normal
L891[14:04:31] <Fluburtur> im a bit
nervous about the concert next week
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L893[14:04:52] <Fluburtur> I never played
with the other musicians before and there will be no
repetition
L894[14:05:02] <Althego> concert on rc
planes?
L895[14:05:11] <Fluburtur> no actual
music
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L897[14:05:50] <Althego> no actual music,
so rc planes it is :)
L898[14:05:55] <Fluburtur> I will be
playing bass or guitar
L899[14:06:00] <Fluburtur> idk which
yet
L900[14:06:05] <Fluburtur> idk what songs
either
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L904[14:09:41] <kmath> YouTube - Tengen
Toppa Gurren Lagann transformation
L905[14:09:52] <Daz> Weird as... the same
landing legs that exploded on kerbin worked on the mun
L906[14:10:13] <Althego> hehe
L907[14:10:43] <Daz> probably because an
engineer was flying in the craft, I guess he got bored and fixed
them <.<
L908[14:11:12] <Althego> trust me, i'm an
engineer
L909[14:11:19] <GurrenLagannCWP> Daz:
Well... The craft was made of spiral energy, that's why
L910[14:11:33] <Daz> on a totally
unrelated note, is there a mod that gives me 2 more "special
kerbals" so I can have three males and three females?
L911[14:12:09] <Althego> thye cant be the
originals if there are infinite of them
L912[14:14:09] <RhineBTV> I'm wondering if
I should get rid of the control surfaces on the lower wings to move
the COL up
L913[14:14:36] <scotty12345> helloooo. i
updated my KSP yesterday and now i notice my "missions"
folder is empty. if i go in to my ksp-win64.1.4.2 zip....theres no
missions folder?
L914[14:15:45] <scotty12345> i have making
history and no mods install
L915[14:15:50] <scotty12345> ed
L916[14:17:16] <GurrenLagannCWP>
scotty12345: where did you install it
L917[14:17:41] <Draconiator> just learned
that a 1-2 size smaller Hex bit can unscrew a Torx screw
L918[14:18:11] <Althego> if it doesnt hav
that silly pin in the middle :)
L920[14:18:53] <kmath> YouTube - Tengen
Toppa Gurren Lagann transformation
L921[14:21:42] <RhineBTV> hmmm
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L924[14:22:40] <GurrenLagannCWP> hmm
what
L925[14:22:44] <Guest57755> hey
L926[14:22:50] <Scotty12345_> my internet
died...yay
L927[14:22:54] <Scotty12345_> did anyone
reply lol
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L930[14:23:27] <GurrenLagannCWP> me
L931[14:23:33] <RhineBTV> just thinking
outloud to myself
L932[14:23:37] <GurrenLagannCWP>
Scotty12345_: where did you install it
L933[14:23:48] <RhineBTV> using this old
pic about planes in ksp to try and diagnose the issue with this
thing
L934[14:23:57] <Scotty12345_> i just
unzipped it to one of my drives
L935[14:24:32] <Scotty12345_> and then
installed making history in the same place. the missions were
there
L936[14:24:35] <RhineBTV> feel like I need
to move the com up, but idk
L937[14:24:41] <Scotty12345_> but no theyv
gone walkies
L938[14:24:44] <GurrenLagannCWP>
Scotty12345_: i meant where in the internet you installed
from
L939[14:24:45] <Scotty12345_> now*
L940[14:24:52] <Scotty12345_> oh the
store
L941[14:25:25] <GurrenLagannCWP> its just
a 1.4.2 bug
L942[14:25:44] <Scotty12345_> oh it
deleted the missions?
L943[14:26:10] <GurrenLagannCWP>
maybe
L944[14:26:20] <Scotty12345_> i guess i
can just reinstall over the top again
L945[14:26:35] <GurrenLagannCWP> i'm not a
expert since 1.4.2 doesnt work with me
L946[14:32:28] <Scotty12345_> seems the
1.4.2 zip lacks a missions folder at all
L947[14:32:42] <Scotty12345_> freshly
redownloaded
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L950[14:37:05] <RhineBTV> so it seems to
want to pitch the nose down when I get up to speed
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L953[14:50:37] <Guest71284> Hey people
keep saying that ksp 0.13.3 demo is best, but cant find that from
forum
L954[14:50:54] <Althego> lol that is so
ancient
L955[14:51:30] <Guest71284> :/ the demo
link is not working on main site
L956[14:52:09] <RhineBTV> I'm just gonna
put this off for now, spending too much time on a stupid plane I'll
end up never using
L957[14:52:22] <RhineBTV> just gonna end
up having to do it from scratch
L958[14:55:26] <Guest71284> any idea when
the demo is avaivable?
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L960[14:56:07] <JMKerman> Hello
L961[14:56:08] <Mod9000> Hello,
JMKerman
L962[14:56:34] <Althego> the useless bot
is doing it again
L963[14:56:52] <JMKerman> I'm trying to do
some math but I'm stuck with the vis viva equation, I'm clueless
about what I'm doing wrong. Anyone can give me a hand?
L964[14:57:11] <JMKerman> I don't know
what radius should I use
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L967[14:59:55] <mib_3ww53j> JMKerman:
What're you trying to do?
L968[15:00:24] <JMKerman> I'm trying to
calculate the dv difference between two orbits
L969[15:00:41] <Althego> hehe deja vu, it
happened yesterday
L970[15:00:49] <JMKerman> One circular and
one elliptical, around the mun
L971[15:01:01] <Althego> look in the orbit
altitude changes section in the article i linked
L972[15:01:08] <JMKerman> So I calculate
Vis viva for each orbit and substract them
L973[15:01:34] <Althego> not that
simple
L974[15:01:35] <JMKerman> Experimenting in
KSP the difference is 29 ms
L975[15:01:57] <JMKerman> Oh, ok, so i'm
not doing it right
L976[15:02:32] <Althego> emergency power
exhausted. going into maintenance mode
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L978[15:04:07] <JMKerman> I'll check the
site, but I have one more question about the radius to use
L979[15:04:14] <JMKerman> Anyone knows the
equation and can help me?
L980[15:04:29] <mib_3ww53j> what's the
total dV? I've used vis viva to circularize & de-orbit. I
haven't compared it to using precise maneuver in ksp though
L981[15:04:44] <mib_3ww53j> but if the
total dV is like 1000 m/s, being off by 29 isn't bad...
L982[15:05:09] <JMKerman> One of my doubts
is, in the equation you have 2*mu/r - mu/a
L983[15:05:23] <JMKerman> In an elliptical
orbit, what radius should I use?
L985[15:05:48] <JMKerman> No, it's a small
change to test the math
L986[15:06:00] <JMKerman> 29 in total and
my results are 3X
L987[15:06:14] <mib_3ww53j> depends if
you're raising your circular apoapsis or lowering the circular
periapsis
L988[15:06:15] <JMKerman> wich results in
100.000 ap difference
L989[15:06:23] <JMKerman> Raising it
L990[15:07:17] <mib_3ww53j> Use the new
apoapsis you want for the v2 calculation
L991[15:08:02] <JMKerman> lets say i'm in
a 300000 pe and 800000 orbit around the mun, my a would be
(300000+200000 + 800000 + 200000) / 2 right?
L992[15:08:17] <JMKerman> So 1500000/2 =
750000
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L995[15:08:38] <JMKerman> I add the mun
radius to it
L996[15:08:47] <JMKerman> Is that part
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L998[15:10:10] <mib_3ww53j> Just use the
periapsis or apoapsis radius, not both
L999[15:10:25] <mib_3ww53j> oh a
L1000[15:10:27] <mib_3ww53j> 1 sec
L1001[15:11:49] <JMKerman> yes, i mean
the sma part
L1002[15:12:03] <mib_3ww53j> Yeah I think
that's the right a, although I use krpc which has an api call for
the sma
L1003[15:12:12] <JMKerman> Ok
L1004[15:12:26] <JMKerman> Then, the
other fraction is 2mu/r
L1005[15:12:44] <JMKerman> that radius is
my current radius?
L1006[15:12:58] <JMKerman> So different
term depending on my position in the orbit?
L1007[15:13:07] <mib_3ww53j> v1 = body
radius + apoapsis if you're trying to raise apoapsis
L1008[15:13:19] <mib_3ww53j> or radius
for v1 = body radius + apoapsis
L1009[15:13:28] <JMKerman> aha
L1010[15:13:29] <mib_3ww53j> radius for
v2 = body radius + target apoapsis
L1011[15:13:36] <JMKerman> hmmm, ok
L1012[15:13:53] <mib_3ww53j> And the
difference between the velocities will give you the delta v to burn
at periapsis
L1013[15:14:17] <JMKerman> I will try
that parameters
L1014[15:14:33] <JMKerman> I'm tinkering
with kOS a bit
L1015[15:15:19] <JMKerman> Damn this
game, you start having fun with green little people and when you
realize you are studying orbital mechanics
L1016[15:15:33] <JMKerman> :)
L1017[15:15:36] <mib_3ww53j> looks like
you can just grab the sma:
L1019[15:16:16] <JMKerman> thanks, it
also serves as a learning project to konw the math so if I can
calculate it, it's better
L1020[15:16:33] <mib_3ww53j> haha, yup.
I'm trying a science game where I don't touch the in-game controls
& just script everything
L1021[15:16:53] <JMKerman> Yeah, that
would be great
L1022[15:17:39] <JMKerman> Orbital
transfers between bodies must be a big challenge
L1023[15:19:02] <mib_3ww53j> Yeah I
haven't gotten that far yet haha
L1024[15:19:11] <JMKerman> Hehe, good
luck!
L1025[15:19:17] <JMKerman> And thanks a
lot for the help!
L1026[15:19:26] <mib_3ww53j> np
L1027[15:23:26] <SnoopJeDi> it's all fun
and games until you bookmark Richard Fitzpatrick's celestial
mechanics text :)
L1028[15:26:41] <Daz> wat, my kerbals
refuse to work due to homesickness... I'm guessing that's a UKS
thing
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L1041[15:48:55] <GurrenLagannCWP>
Fluburtur: woooaaaah what is that
L1042[15:49:04] <Fluburtur> motor mount
for my next plane
L1043[15:49:09] <Fluburtur> might rework
it a bit
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L1052[16:03:23] <RhineBTV> Do you need
both the Narrow-Band and Survey scanner (stock scanners) to get a
complete scan of a planet?
L1053[16:04:01] <RhineBTV> Making my
"scanner" satellite subassembly (with Karbonite, ScanSAT,
and KSPie scanners) and want to make sure I'm not missing
stuff
L1054[16:04:58] <RhineBTV> Also wondering
if the BG-MGN Magnetometer part from Extraplanetary Launchpads does
anything (says it scans for ore deposits)
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L1056[16:07:01] <RhineBTV> And also,
wondering if tweakscale alters the fov and/or min/max/optimum
altitudes for operation
L1057[16:07:15] <RhineBTV> I know I'm
asking a lot, but any help would be useful
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L1061[16:14:52] <GurrenLagannCWP>
UmbralRaptop: T
L1062[16:15:05] <GurrenLagannCWP>
UmbralRaptop: STOP QUITTING, JEEZ
L1063[16:23:05] <UmbralRaptop> Bad
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L1066[16:24:20] <Fluburtur> evry
thin
L1067[16:24:25] <Fluburtur> very*
L1068[16:26:52] <Fluburtur> looking at
the graps it seems it is more draggy at higher angle of attack than
the pw51
L1069[16:28:04] <Fluburtur> but it gets a
bit more lift and less drag at lower angles of attack
L1070[16:33:09] <darsie> Is a sample
return from Eve or Tylo harder?
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L1073[16:38:51] <GurrenLagannCWP> darsie:
Eve is harder
L1074[16:38:59] <darsie> thx
L1075[16:39:01] <darsie> I did Eve.
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L1077[16:40:46] <Fluburtur> apparently
the space shuttle had a glide ratio of 1 at hypersonic speed
L1078[16:41:06] <Fluburtur> this means
that it actually flew as well as a brick
L1079[16:47:20] <Mat2ch> Well,
technically it looks a bit like a brick from underneath
L1080[16:47:43] <Fluburtur> yeah
L1082[16:48:08] <Fluburtur> uh I don't
think it works
L1085[16:48:29] <Fluburtur> comparing
those two
L1086[16:48:38] <Fluburtur> I think the
1211 is better for what I want
L1087[16:48:47] <Fluburtur> because I
want to make a very efficient flying wing
L1089[16:49:09] <Draconiator> I've landed
lots of stuff on Eve but...hell it's very hard to get back from
there. Most of what I design isn't meant to anyway.
L1090[16:56:29] <RhineBTV> If you're not
going the route of taking advantage of the atmosphere for flight,
I've been fond of sending a bunch of empty stuff and mining once
you get there
L1091[16:57:22] <RhineBTV> need less to
ship it as it's empty, but useful to get past the thick part
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L1103[17:21:44] <Pakaran> is there any
reason to believe it's significantly more likely to hit Michigan
than anywhere else near the northern (or, for that matter,
southern) latitude cooresponding to the inclination?
L1104[17:21:58] <Pakaran> or that more
than a few fragments will survive entry?
L1105[17:25:13] <GurrenLagannCWP>
Pakaran: it will hit Brazil, not michigan
L1106[17:25:24] <Pakaran> Oh?
L1107[17:25:40] <Pakaran> I thought the
error was still on the order of several full orbits?
L1108[17:28:27] <GurrenLagannCWP>
Pakaran: When you do extensive research for 5.87 hours, you
discover that it will fall in Brasillia
L1110[17:30:16] <Pakaran> even includes
when tracking stations will be able to observe it in future
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L1112[17:30:59] <Pakaran> (right now, not
many, mostly because half an orbit for the next few is over the
Pacific)
L1113[17:31:20] <Supernovy> Evening,
Gentlemen.
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L1116[17:33:53] <darsie> Pakaran: About
20 orbits.
L1117[17:34:06] <GurrenLagannCWP>
Pakaran: it seems that it will hit in the Turkish-Iranian
border
L1118[17:34:07] <darsie> +/- 9
orbits.
L1119[17:34:12] <darsie> +/- 9 h *
L1120[17:36:06] <Pakaran> and I've read
that re-entry "happens" around 100 km?
L1121[17:37:14] <GurrenLagannCWP>
Pakaran: true
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L1124[17:39:17] <Pakaran> that seems
weird, like it should be before significant slowing. I played RSS
for quite awhile. I mean, you get drag, and there's one orbit or
less left in most scenarios (much less if it's circular at 100),
but it's like 60ish on Kerbin.
L1125[17:39:34] <Pakaran> though maybe
significant slowing happens after a lot of stuff burns up?
L1126[17:40:17] <Pakaran> when I've seen
Youtubers try silly things like entering with inflatable habitats,
they still make it below 60!
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L1128[17:41:41] <GurrenLagannCWP>
Pakaran: KSP doesnt always get things right. LIKE EVERY SINGLE
N-BODY JOOL SYSTEM SIMULATION IS UNSTABLE
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L1132[17:46:03] <UmbralRaptor> Jool is
silly.
L1133[17:46:31] <UmbralRaptor> It's a
light Saturn orbited by 3 terrestrial planets.
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L1136[17:50:04] <Fluburtur> I spent like
an hour reading about airfoils again
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L1143[17:55:31] <Pakaran> UmbralRaptor,
isn't that a lesser mass ratio than, say, Pluto and Charon?
L1144[17:55:55] <UmbralRaptor> Not
quite.
L1145[17:57:02] <GurrenLagannCWP>
Pakaran: Tylo basically kicks Vall out.
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L1147[17:59:12] <UmbralRaptor> Total mass
ratio of Jool to the 3 big moons is on the order of
Earth:Moon
L1148[18:00:40] <Pakaran> Ah, which is
stable mostly because there's *one* Moon, in a relatively circular
orbit.
L1149[18:00:55] <Pakaran> With five of
them, we'd be in trouble (I've tried things like that in Universe
Sandbox)
L1150[18:01:52] <GurrenLagannCWP>
Pakaran: Had you heard of the 20.6 update?
L1151[18:02:06] <Pakaran> Uhm, what about
it?
L1152[18:02:19] <Pakaran> It's one of my
Steam games that seems to have updates every week or so.
L1153[18:03:16] <Pakaran> from news it
looks like it's mostly a performance fix?
L1155[18:08:01] <GurrenLagannCWP>
Pakaran: 20.6 also makes supernovae INCEDIBLE and BEAUTIFUL
L1156[18:08:44] <Pakaran> cool, I'll try
it later prolly.
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L1159[18:13:22] <Pakaran> I'm going to
keep my eye on that this evening
L1160[18:14:20] <Pakaran> there's
something weird going on, every previous orbit look in almost a
straight line
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L1164[18:21:41] <Pakaran> amusingly, in
RSS it would also be in a stable orbit NOW. IIRC, the top of the
atmosphere is 140 km.
L1165[18:22:08] <Pakaran> 171x195 km is
also a better orbit than I ever launched into.
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L1169[18:27:23] <RhineBTV> reeee
L1170[18:27:34] *
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L1177[18:46:34] <RhineBTV> alright,
hopefully this worked
L1179[18:47:23] <RhineBTV> I despise it
when mod authors completely remove the part name/title from their
respective cfgs and only include the localization reference, even
though you can comment out the name if you wanted
L1180[18:47:32] <RhineBTV> makes me have
to find the part twice to make sure I'm looking at the right
thing
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L1193[19:10:54] <Iskierka> I mean you
could just find the part based on stats. Usually aren't exact
matches for mass, value, and whatever other parameters
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L1222[20:34:15] <Scolar_Visari> Sons and
daughters of Kerbin: It launches the payload into orbit or else it
gets the scrub again!
L1223[20:35:43] <TheKosmonaut>
Scolar_Visari: put the propellant in the basket
L1224[20:36:39] <Scolar_Visari>
NOOOO!
L1225[20:36:58] *
Scolar_Visari conspires to steal Buffalo Kosmonaut's space
dog.
L1228[20:44:43] <Scolar_Visari> From the
article: "There are spots at both lunar poles where sunlight
is accessible all the time, as well as permanently shadowed craters
nearby where water ice has accumulated."
L1229[20:45:31] <Supernovy> How long has
the "permanent dark ice craters" thing been going
on?
L1230[20:45:40] <Supernovy> I feel like I
heard of it years ago.
L1232[20:46:12] <Scolar_Visari> From that
article: "On the Mo on however, the correlation between
temperature and consi s tent evidence for ice is poor."
L1233[20:46:24] *
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L1234[20:47:03] *
UmbralRaptop hands Scolar_Visari a tarball full of
knives.
L1235[20:47:43] <Scolar_Visari> "At
the lunar poles, surface ice is the exception and is patchy verging
on non-existence."
L1236[20:48:37] <Scolar_Visari> I can't
even begin to imagine how Zubrin would calculate the actual expense
of the excavation and processing equipment needed to fuel up ascent
vehicles in situ.
L1237[20:49:15] *
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water recovery makes baking asteroids for water more and more
attractive.
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L1239[20:50:06] <ConductorCat> :3
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L1242[20:53:41] <Scolar_Visari> There's
also a more detailed breakdown of the polar water issues via Fisher
et al.s' "Evidence for surface water ice in the lunar polar
regions using reflectance measurements from the Lunar Orbiter Laser
Altimeter and temperature measurements from the Diviner Lunar
Radiometer Experiment" Icarus 2017
http://luna1.diviner.ucla.edu/~dap/pubs/088.pdf
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L1245[20:57:59] <Scolar_Visari> To be
honest: Zubrin should no better. The particular amount of water ice
on the Moon has *always* been a contentious matter, and hinging an
entire program on its recovery prior to a more detailed
understanding is plain silly.
L1246[21:01:07] <Scolar_Visari> We have
no idea what a mobile Lunar ice mining vehicle would look like so
as to fit inside an expanded Falcon payload fairing, let alone
cost!
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L1249[21:11:40] <Scolar_Visari> Though,
given Zubrin's rather silly beliefs regarding petroleum . . .
L1250[21:12:34] <ve2dmn> Abiotic Oil
?
L1251[21:13:58] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn:
Oh no, he seemed to operate under the belief that OPEC controlled
all of the U.S. oil, ignoring where the vast majority of imports
actually come from.
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continental United States.
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L1255[21:14:25] <ve2dmn> Alberta?
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L1257[21:14:54] <Scolar_Visari> Zubrin
was also big into the plant based gasoline alternatives, which is .
. . dubious.
L1258[21:15:30] <ve2dmn> only works if we
can find way to re-use currently discarded plant matter
L1259[21:15:41] <ve2dmn> (instead of
using food)
L1260[21:16:40] <Scolar_Visari>
Amusingly, since the publication of his book on the subject, the
U.S. has become a net exporter of petrol.
L1261[21:18:24] <ve2dmn> It goes to
should that one should never dicard the 4 influencers of society:
the law, social norms, the market, and architecture (technical
infrastructure).
L1262[21:18:35] <Scolar_Visari> There's
also that matter of water depletion in the regions where biofuels
would be grown.
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L1264[21:18:57] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn:
Only four? Why is the Zodiac not in there!?
L1266[21:20:19] <ve2dmn> Which
Zodiac?
L1267[21:20:31] <Eddi|zuHause>
plant-based ("bio") fuels are a great step towards
sustainability, but that sustainability is immediately destroyed if
you use growing areas that would normally be used for growing
food
L1268[21:21:02] <Scolar_Visari> Eddi: As
it is, humanity grows far more food than it needs and, in the
particular case of maize, doesn't actually use most of it for human
food.
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L1270[21:21:07] <ve2dmn> Eddi|zuHause:
the promising technology I heard about was alguea-based
L1271[21:21:43] <ve2dmn> of course, why
it didn't take off... well.. It's complicated
L1272[21:22:12] <Scolar_Visari> However,
less agriculture would be preferable instead of more, particularly
in places like Brazil.
L1273[21:22:13] <Eddi|zuHause> well, we
do have the technology to make non-oil-based fuel for 100
years.
L1274[21:22:52] <ve2dmn> Eddi|zuHause:
and cars can be modified to run on alcohol
L1275[21:23:05] <Eddi|zuHause> (by
hydrating coal, which is still non-renewable, but coal is much
further out from depletion)
L1276[21:23:14] <ve2dmn> Petroleum is
just the most convinient and cheap form of power
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L1278[21:23:35] <UmbralRaptop> IIRC, you
use less oil by putting it directly into cars instead of growing
corn.
L1279[21:23:49] <ve2dmn> sadly
L1280[21:23:56] <ve2dmn> but...
politics
L1281[21:24:28] <Eddi|zuHause> it would
also be more energy efficient to put down solar panels and feed the
electric power into cars (including all storage losses) than grow
"bio"fuel
L1282[21:24:42] <Eddi|zuHause> by land
area that is
L1283[21:25:14] <ve2dmn> The UAE is
looking into that. With 350 days of sun out of 365
L1284[21:25:32] <Eddi|zuHause> what do
they do the other 15 days? :p
L1285[21:25:45] <ve2dmn> Hide from the
sand storms
L1286[21:26:28] <ve2dmn> And from Shai
hulud. May his passing cleanse the world
L1287[21:26:50] <Eddi|zuHause> i don't
know about that one
L1288[21:28:28] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn:
Perhaps we should try using Spice Melange as a petrol
substitute?
L1289[21:29:52] <ve2dmn> it would
probably be sustainable, yes
L1290[21:30:43] <ve2dmn> although, if we
start doing that, we may have to chnage the TV show 'Deadly Catch'
to 'Deadly Harvest'
L1291[21:31:37] *
Scolar_Visari should have perhaps started with Zubrin's more recent
championing of modern global warming as a positive
phenomenon.
L1292[21:32:07] <ve2dmn> Positive for
whom?
L1293[21:32:16] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn:
I'd totally like to watch carryall crews recovering their spice
miners in the nick of time as sand worms jump out at them.
L1294[21:32:54] <ve2dmn> "Warning:
Worms sign"
L1295[21:33:21] <Scolar_Visari> Something
about how more carbon-dioxide being good for agriculture. I'm gonna
guess he didn't pay attention to the issues of population
deplacements due to sea level and climate changes and the
precipitation issues that might result.
L1296[21:33:40] <ve2dmn> That, and
invasive species
L1297[21:33:59] <ve2dmn> Animals move.
Plants don't move as fast
L1298[21:34:28] <Scolar_Visari> From
Zubrin's own Twitter page: "Global warming has not only
benefited the USA with increased rainfall, but most of the world.
We are making the Earth a more fertile planet."
L1299[21:34:28] <ve2dmn> so insect (that
would normaly die in the winter) survive in more north
latitudes
L1300[21:34:53] *
Scolar_Visari looks at the local droughts in California, once of
America's most important agricultural centers.
L1301[21:35:15] <Scolar_Visari> But, you
know, totes increased rainfall! We'll just forget to factor in
expanding water usage and water table depletion.
L1302[21:35:30] <ve2dmn> And where do you
think Arizona get their water?
L1303[21:35:42] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn: I
figured they just cast a level three water spell.
L1304[21:35:50] <Scolar_Visari> Surely
there's a materia for that, right?
L1305[21:36:00] <bees> global warming
looks pretty positive to me
L1306[21:36:06] *
ve2dmn is scared sometimes to live in the largest basin of fresh
water in North America
L1307[21:36:06] *
bees could be biased a little bit
L1308[21:36:51] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn:
Then again, if Mako energy reactors were a thing, I could actually
see Zubrin advocating their use en masse.
L1309[21:37:07] <Eddi|zuHause> well, it
is somewhat true that higher carbondioxide concentration makes
chlorophyll work more efficiently
L1310[21:37:31] <Eddi|zuHause> but that
doesn't automatically mean that plants grow better
L1311[21:37:47] <ve2dmn> Reality resist
simplicity
L1312[21:38:01] <ve2dmn> it's always more
complicated that it seems at first
L1313[21:38:43] <Scolar_Visari> You know,
Zubrin's field of expterise isn't in anything remotely related to
biology or climate but one would hope that he could've done a bit
more than simplify what he remembered from high school
biology.
L1314[21:38:46] <Eddi|zuHause> it is also
true that 70% of CO2->O2 conversion happens in the ocean
L1315[21:39:11] <Eddi|zuHause> so changes
in ocean temperature have much more effect than just
"rainfall"
L1316[21:39:15] <ve2dmn> Scolar_Visari:
that never stopped anyone :D
L1317[21:40:01] <Eddi|zuHause> and higher
CO2 concentration means the ocean gets more acidic, which has all
sorts of implications on existing life adaptations
L1318[21:40:46] <Eddi|zuHause> which then
means it probably gets a lot worse before it gets better
L1319[21:41:33] <Scolar_Visari> Eddi: I'm
sure the obligate anaerobes would appreciate our contribution to
their future dominance!
L1320[21:41:52] <Scolar_Visari>
"Those oxygen metabolizing do-gooders will soon rue the
day!"
L1321[21:43:36] <Eddi|zuHause> i think
we're still a few steps out from extinguishing oxygen from the
atmosphere :p
L1322[21:44:10] <bees> we would have a
slight venus problem long before we meaningfully change oxygen
percentage
L1323[21:44:12] <Scolar_Visari> Psht, I
saw Interstellar
L1324[21:44:35] <ve2dmn> I didnt. No
spoilers
L1325[21:44:45] <bees> and then water
vapor problem before that
L1326[21:45:19] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn:
Spoiler alert . . . It's out of this star system! Hence the
title.
L1327[21:45:45] <Scolar_Visari> Hrm . . .
Perhaps I was to hasty? Zubrin is less pro global warming and more
anti-environmentalist than I remember.
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L1329[21:48:46] *
Scolar_Visari wonders if any one ever pointed out to Zubrin that
there is, in fact, no global blanket ban on DDT.
L1330[21:49:35] <RhineBTV> hmmm
L1331[21:49:53] <RhineBTV> anyone know if
using tweakscale on resource scanning parts alters their FOV or
operating altitude specs?
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L1341[22:06:27] <Scolar_Visari>
Draconiator: But do you have a floppy disk drive lying
around?
L1342[22:07:23] <Draconiator> No I don't.
wish I did.
L1343[22:09:38] *
Scolar_Visari would prefer not to have to go through the tedious
process of installing games via multiple diskettes.
L1345[22:11:29] <kmath> YouTube -
"O'Neil Cylinder" - Rotating habitat (small) interior -
SFIA
L1346[22:13:47] <Draconiator> I used to
do that woth our first Win3.1 computer.
L1348[22:14:10] <Scolar_Visari>
Draconiator: I seem to recall installations taking a long time even
with one diskette.
L1349[22:14:59] <Draconiator> Yeah. that
thing had a 2x CD-ROM drive. back then only a few games came on CD
though
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L1352[22:17:34] <kmath> YouTube - Top 10
Signs You SUCK at a Video Game
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L1356[22:20:18] <Scolar_Visari> "#5.
You Resort to Trash Talking" - This is why I always keep voice
chat OFF.
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L1358[22:24:02] <Eddi|zuHause> i think
they studied a bunch of League of Legends games, and found that the
people who complain the loudest are also the ones that play the
weakest in a match
L1359[22:24:33] <ve2dmn> sounds like an
attribution issue
L1360[22:25:37] <ConductorCat> :3
L1361[22:25:49] <Eddi|zuHause> "if
you think everyone around you is an asshole, YOU are probably the
asshole"
L1362[22:25:50] <ve2dmn> External
attributions of failiure lead to someone not seeing thier own
L1363[22:26:28] <Eddi|zuHause> i've had
the pleasure to work with such a person the past year
L1365[22:27:05] *
TheKosmonaut pokes Eddi|zuHause not so gently with the language
rule
L1366[22:27:49] *
Scolar_Visari seriously ponders the idea of open-roofed areas of
houses within climate controlled space colonies.
L1367[22:28:01] <Scolar_Visari> I mean,
it's not like it would ever rain in all but the very largest
examples.
L1368[22:28:33] <ve2dmn> you really want
your neighboors to watch your every moves?
L1369[22:28:46] <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, i
think it's a privacy issue
L1370[22:29:03] <Eddi|zuHause> also a
"that's just how houses look" issue
L1371[22:30:26] <Eddi|zuHause> like
people built castles with features which have no defensive use
whatsoever, just they make it look more castle-like
L1372[22:30:38] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn:
Well, if you think about it, a lot of families in Earth's history
only used the insides of houses for sleeping and storage.
L1373[22:31:09] <Scolar_Visari> Ancient
Egyptians throughout the eras, for example, tended to perform many
activities on the flat roofs.
L1374[22:31:51] <Scolar_Visari> While
sleeping areas would likely be covered for privacy, I could see
dining rooms and living areas not unlike outdoor porches
today.
L1375[22:36:02] <RhineBTV> Alright, don't
like repeating Qs, but since the channel's more active now --
anyone know if using tweakscale on resource scanning parts (stock
or modded) affects their properties -- things like FoV, optimal
operation altitude, etc?
L1376[22:36:03] <Scolar_Visari> I'd also
hope certain annoying organisms (coughmosquitoscough) would not be
brought along.
L1377[22:36:34] <RhineBTV> Also, has
anyone ever used the scansat parts that come with the ProbesPlus
mod?
L1378[22:36:52] *
Scolar_Visari should probably play KSP again sometime.
L1379[22:37:13] *
Eddi|zuHause should play loads of things
L1380[22:37:27] <TheKosmonaut> I think
you could probably figure that out by trying it yourself
RhineBTV
L1381[22:37:52] <TheKosmonaut> Just chest
two crafts to X orbit and compare the scan ranges
L1382[22:37:54] <Scolar_Visari> Eddi: I'm
currently too busy with the Lizardmen liberating Ulthuan.
L1383[22:37:57] <RhineBTV> Well, I'm
asking to see if anyone else has ever done it instead of trial and
erroring it
L1384[22:38:17] <TheKosmonaut> I would
lean to yes, but it depends on MM and if someone has set it
properly
L1385[22:38:39] <TheKosmonaut> They'll
have bigger range but also a higher electricity drain
L1386[22:39:26] <Eddi|zuHause> i've only
ever used tweakscale on wheezing jet engines to make them smaller,
so they fit on mk0 tanks under the wings of my not-space
planes
L1387[22:39:37] <Scolar_Visari> Eddi:
Also, now that I think about it, I'd think the Japanese
architectural styles (paper and cut timbers) would be pretty
applicable to any future space dwelling civilization given that one
could grow lots of trees in the before-mentioned behemoths.
L1388[22:39:44] <Scolar_Visari> Open
concept living ahoy!
L1389[22:39:55] <Supercheese> Why not
just use the Juno engine which is already Mk0 size?
L1390[22:40:08] <Eddi|zuHause> because
it's not wheezing?
L1391[22:40:12] <Supercheese> :D
L1392[22:40:22] <Eddi|zuHause> i like the
backwards toggle
L1393[22:40:32] <Supercheese> It's still
Koffing, it'll evolve eventually
L1394[22:41:02] <Eddi|zuHause> i always
put the direction toggle on the "R" key
L1395[22:41:10] <Supercheese> thrust
reverser is quite nice
L1396[22:41:14] <Scolar_Visari>
Supercheese: Yeah, but doing so gives Koffing a tumor.
L1397[22:41:39] <Scolar_Visari> And,
let's face it, the first gen poison-types weren't that good.
L1398[22:42:02] <Scolar_Visari> In fact .
. . Anything other than psychic was fighting an uphill battle of
minds.
L1399[22:42:31] <RhineBTV> I just used
Magmar
L1400[22:42:41] <RhineBTV> Because Magmar
is dope
L1402[22:45:01] <Scolar_Visari> RhineBTV:
Go Alakazam or go home.
L1403[22:45:28] <RhineBTV> alakazam is
pretty cool too
L1404[22:45:30] <Scolar_Visari> Or,
better yet: Go Alakazam or go to the nearest Pokemon Center.
Because you lost.
L1405[22:45:42] <UmbralRaptop> 6x
Vaporeons! (Pokémon Go was an accurate representation of 1st gen,
right?)
L1406[22:45:50] <RhineBTV> but back in
the day I think I rolled with butterfree and magmar for most of the
game, playing casually as a kid, anyway
L1407[22:45:52] <Scolar_Visari>
Psychic-types were ridiculously overpowered in the first
game.
L1408[22:45:58] <RhineBTV> and gyrados,
of course
L1409[22:46:14] <Scolar_Visari> RhineBTV:
I wanna see someone beat the Elite 4 with only Magikarps.
L1410[22:46:30] <RhineBTV> I'm sure
someone can, but I'm no pokemon afficionado
L1411[22:46:39] <RhineBTV> Last one I
really played was like Gold/Silver I think
L1412[22:46:41] <Supercheese>
Magikrap
L1413[22:46:52] <ve2dmn> I played
yellow
L1414[22:46:55] <RhineBTV> There's like
1000 pokemon now, it's ridiculous
L1415[22:46:57] <Scolar_Visari> I think
the only actual offensive move they could ever learn was tackle,
which was not going to do much because of their invariably low
stats.
L1416[22:47:00] <ve2dmn> and I never
finished it
L1417[22:47:02] <Scolar_Visari> RhineBTV:
And counting!
L1418[22:47:17] <ve2dmn> it's not a bad
game, but I lacked the time
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L1420[22:47:26] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn:
Monster Rancher 2 was better.
L1421[22:47:44] <RhineBTV> I'm gonna try
this probesplus mod
L1422[22:47:55] <Supercheese>
Probesplusterous!
L1423[22:47:56] <RhineBTV> Seems like it
puts the scansat parts into smaller packages, which is what I
need
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L1425[22:48:24] <RhineBTV> Trying to make
my "scanning probe" subassembly that has all the parts
for scanning all the things, but I want to do something different
than my usual build
L1426[22:48:34] <RhineBTV> Which is
normally just slapping everything radially on a fueltank
L1427[22:48:46] <RhineBTV> looks ugly as
sin
L1428[22:48:50] *
Scolar_Visari distinctly remembers it was possible in MR2 to get a
cross between a velociraptor and a lobster.
L1429[22:49:02] <RhineBTV> I never played
the MR games
L1430[22:49:04] <Supercheese>
Velobsteraptor
L1432[22:49:17] <Scolar_Visari> RhineBTV:
The first two were pretty sweet.
L1433[22:49:17] <RhineBTV> Nor Monster
Hunter, even if it's a completely different genre
L1434[22:49:44] <RhineBTV> I did play
Monsters in my Pocket, though
L1435[22:49:54] <Scolar_Visari> Monster
Rancher 1 and 2 had the gim-er, feature of obtaining new monsters
by reading non-game CDs with your Playstation.
L1437[22:50:08] <kmath> YouTube - NES -
Monsters in my pocket
L1438[22:50:18] <Scolar_Visari> IE:
Putting in, ah, Red Hot Chili Peppers or something I guess would
get you a monster unique to that particular disk.
L1439[22:50:31] <RhineBTV> Oh, I remember
that
L1440[22:50:35] <RhineBTV> That's what
that was
L1441[22:50:44] <Scolar_Visari> You could
then not only fight with them, but also go on D&D esque
adventures.
L1442[22:51:56] <RhineBTV> That was
pretty innovative for the time
L1443[22:52:30] <RhineBTV> I want to say
it'd be interesting to see it applied now, especially with how easy
patches would be to apply, but so much media is digital that I
think it'd be way too easy to game the system
L1445[22:53:16] <Supercheese> Looks more
like 2π/3D
L1446[22:53:17] <Scolar_Visari> RhineBTV:
Anymore and I'd think they'd go the Pokemon Go route and have
players obtain new monsters via geohashes or whatever nonsense kids
use these days.
L1447[22:53:50] <Eddi|zuHause>
blockchain!
L1448[22:53:58] <Supercheese> oy
gevalt
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L1450[22:54:08] <Supercheese>
Pokéchain
L1451[22:54:17] <ve2dmn> Etherium
kitties?
L1455[22:57:02] <Scolar_Visari> Or a
dragon!
L1456[23:00:14] <Scolar_Visari> Oh yeah,
they also had a Monolith creature.
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L1463[23:12:37] <AlonzoTG> my career save
is borked because just about anything I do in it causes a null
reference exception on
KerbalRoster.ValidateAssignments
(.Game st)
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L1466[23:36:33] <RhineBTV> oooooo, these
probesplus parts are nice
L1467[23:36:49] <RhineBTV> and sorry bout
the career save, man, I dunno much about trying to recover from
that
L1468[23:41:09] <Althego> what, crs-14 in
2.5 days
L1469[23:41:16] <Althego> spacex is on a
roll
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way to use the word filter in conjunction with part category?
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