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L22[02:14:21] <diveyez> Realistic LEM
extraction
L24[02:15:13] <diveyez> So fun, now, the
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L45[04:26:43] <Pakaran> Morning.
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L57[06:07:32] <Althego> then dont build it
next to a cemetery
L58[06:07:39] <Althego> even if it is good
logistics
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L79[07:43:48] <goldenpeach> Anyone’s
experienced with the mission builder?
L80[07:44:44] <Althego> probably not
L81[07:58:41]
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L82[07:58:54] <TheKosmonaut> Why aren't you
auto-opped
L83[07:59:08] <TheKosmonaut> goldenpeach: I
admittedly havent even tried it yet. :( too busy w/ work
L84[07:59:59] <goldenpeach> Because I don’t
spend enough time in this channel :P
L85[08:02:31] <goldenpeach> woooo! First
time in my save that the EVA parachutes saved a kerbal! (events
were I « crashed » on purposed excluded)
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L87[08:05:09] <Draconiator> I think Kerbals
are bipolar....had one instantly go from scared to smiling and
happy.
L88[08:07:31] <lordcirth> wow, CKAN is
already showing ~1000 mods compatible with 1.4.1. Impressive.
L89[08:07:46] <goldenpeach> already?
o.o
L90[08:07:54] <lordcirth> Well, over
800
L91[08:08:18] <lordcirth> A lot of those
probably already ported to 1.4, then when 1.4.1 came out just had
to recompile and retest
L92[08:08:38] <lordcirth> Oh nevermind I'm
dumb
L93[08:10:49] <lordcirth> I just woke up.
It's actually 282, I was looking at the wrong save
L94[08:14:01] <Draconiator> lol
L95[08:14:10] <Draconiator>
MOOOOOOOOOOORNING!
L96[08:14:37] <Althego> star
L97[08:15:04] <Draconiator> brain not
connected to body in morning, makes you act like cave man, unga
bunga!
L98[08:21:07] <ve2dmn> morning
L99[08:21:20] <Althego> star
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L101[08:22:55] <JCB> ok.. derp...
L102[08:23:21] <JCB> fiddling with a mod..
Grounded... but my texture switcher isnt' working...?
L103[08:29:42] <JCB> oh wait... buh..
1.4.x
L104[08:32:53] <lordcirth> Hmm, in my CTT
here, the Poodle would be unlocked before the skipper - seems kind
of odd, the only way to use it would be to cluster LV-T45's.
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L113[08:58:52] <JCB> sometimes I wondered
if cluster engines are better than one single powerful one...
L114[08:58:59] <JCB> at least in the sense
of boosters
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L116[08:59:53] <lordcirth> In KSP the
bigger ones tend to be more cost-efficient, I think, and also more
powerful than the max you can fit in a cluster.
L117[09:00:09] <Althego> vector cluster
ftw
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L119[09:03:35] <lordcirth> Vectors are
just OP :P Though now they have company in Making History
L120[09:09:39] <Draconiator> I was able to
hook my dying hard drive and reformat it for disposal. I didn't
really need anything important on it.
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L122[09:12:05] <ve2dmn> quick format == no
cleaning
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L128[09:24:42] <lordcirth> Draconiator, if
it's dead, you can't erase it, so you should put a drill through it
or something. Unless you trust the disposal company you're giving
it to.
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L130[09:31:52] <JCB> picked up a micro
cassette player from thrift store.. seems someone recorded a whole
episode of twilight zone on it...
L131[09:37:30] <JCB> be sure its dead,
otherwise may end up in thrift store...
L132[09:37:55] <lordcirth> Welp, just
edited a rescue contract's orbit to be out of atmo - may have
overdid it a little.
L133[09:38:00] <ve2dmn> JCB: I picked up a
Copy of an old game from the Thift store: Battlecruiser
3000AD
L134[09:38:09] <JCB> ugh then again, I've
been up most of the night.. 5 hours doing nothing but browsing
net... x_x
L135[09:38:32] <JCB> vesdmn ya I caught a
little bit of that earlier... can't say I ever heard of it.
L136[09:39:06] <ve2dmn> If was Duke Nukem
Forever of it's time
L137[09:40:14] <ve2dmn> I also mananged to
get a game distributed in a cereal box
L138[09:41:19] <lordcirth> I remember
getting Roller Coaster Tycoon (2?) in a cereal box, and
battleship
L139[09:41:47] <ve2dmn> this one is
monopoly tycoon
L140[09:42:12] <ve2dmn> and the 3rd cd I
bought was a copy of Civ2 with the sticker from blockbuster still
on it
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L142[09:42:51] <ve2dmn> Not much else in
that thrift store
L143[09:43:06] <ve2dmn> And not a lot of
good thrift store in this area
L144[09:45:27] <ve2dmn> well... unless you
are looking for clothing and books... then there's a very big
choice
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L149[09:53:29] <JCB> ya.. I've only had
the occasional luck finding stuff in our area thrift store
wise
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L156[10:10:29] <ve2dmn> too small
L157[10:11:33] <Mat2ch> Yeah. Only 19
nervas on the pusher
L158[10:11:46] <Mat2ch> I need bigger lf
tanks
L159[10:12:03] <Mat2ch> I'm still a bit
mad that they didn't include them in the last release
L160[10:12:19] <ve2dmn> You only need 1
LV-N and a lot of patience
L161[10:12:27] <Mat2ch> also I need a
better computer for all those parts ;P
L162[10:12:43] <Mat2ch> if you have more
than just patience take the xenon thrusters. :D
L163[10:13:22] <ve2dmn> but unless you use
mods, the xenon is not ISRU
L164[10:14:23] <Mat2ch> true
L165[10:14:36] <Mat2ch> but I take the
ISRU with me to do multiple hops on Duna
L166[10:14:57] <Mat2ch> Not for science,
but for sight-seeing
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L170[10:29:59] <lordcirth> Anyone know a
mod that does inflatable bags for splashdown?
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L173[10:44:56] <N70> REEEEE
L174[10:45:02] <N70> Windows defender is
freaking out about MM
L175[10:48:12] <ve2dmn> N70: known
issue
L176[10:48:20] <N70> yeah i submitted
it
L177[10:48:25] <N70> as a false
positive
L178[10:48:41] <N70> hopefully it'll be
fixed
L179[10:48:43] <N70> oh wait
L181[10:49:11] <ve2dmn> update Windows
Defender signature
L182[10:49:19] <ve2dmn> The issue is from
2-3 days ago
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L191[11:02:09] <Guest88123> Hi everyone, I
have a quick question: just bought the history expansion and wanted
to try one of the missions "dawn of the space age". Can
anyone tell me how to build this K-7 Test Rocket, with only like 10
parts available ? Satellite + Booster = 4 Tons, only 3.3 Tons
allowed ? I'm confused
L192[11:04:42] <Althego> let me check
it
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L194[11:06:33] <Althego> it doesnt need to
be orbital
L195[11:07:46] <Guest88123> no, just 5000
metres
L196[11:08:14] <Guest88123> but, available
parts are : the satellite and the booster. No fuel tanks, no
engines
L197[11:08:28] <Althego> just need to
remove some fuel
L198[11:08:39] <Guest88123> out of the
booster?
L199[11:08:40] <mabus> history expansion?
i havent been paying attention in a while i guess
L200[11:08:56] <mabus> not super thrilled
about new content being in expansion form i have to buy again
though
L201[11:09:01] <mabus> but hey i will
probably buy it
L202[11:09:57] <Althego> yes, out of the
booster
L203[11:10:23] <Guest88123> I'll give that
a try, thank you!
L204[11:12:27] <Althego> heh landing that
on the old airfield is a bit hard
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L208[11:30:32] <Blaank> Eh? Why would you
remove fuel out of the booster?
L209[11:30:47] <Blaank> Oh, weight
reduction
L210[11:30:51] <Blaank> yeah, that will
work.
L211[11:32:58] <Gasher> TWR increase i'd
call that to stress the importance
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L213[11:49:57] <Pakaran> I still haven't
really gotten into that.
L214[11:50:09] <Pakaran> I'm just now
getting my permanent career game modded "right".
L215[11:50:32] <Pakaran> I will say seeing
a node (singular, granted) with 10k science cost in the future is a
bit intimidating, but I'm having fun.
L216[11:54:46] <Pakaran> (Gotten into the
expansion, sorry)
L217[11:57:47] <ve2dmn> Pakaran: I have
'fog of tech'
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L219[11:57:54] <ve2dmn> It hides future
science
L220[11:58:55] <Pakaran> I couldn't find
that in ckan.
L221[11:59:18] <ve2dmn> it might be out of
date
L222[11:59:47] <Pakaran> plausible. my
"main" game is a 1.3 version roughly a month old.
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L227[12:09:10] <ve2dmn> nah. Fog of tech
is old. has not been updated in some time
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L241[13:00:25] <Fluburtur> now that I have
a 3d printer I should design trumpet pistons
L242[13:00:42] <Fluburtur> so I can make a
working trumpet with flexible tubing and annoy everyone
L243[13:01:48] <Althego> lol
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L247[13:24:27] <kubi> aaaaaaaaa
L248[13:24:31] <kubi> it is the
resolution
L249[13:25:20] <kubi> if I set the game to
full res (3840x2160) then part icons in the science lab right pane
do not show
L250[13:25:35] <kubi> lower resolutions
are OK (did not test all)
L251[13:26:48] <kubi> is there anyone else
having similar problems?
L252[13:27:15] <Althego> hehe,m i can go
up to 2560x1600 only
L253[13:27:42] <Althego> wouldnt be a
first case that a game doesnt handle a particular extreme
resolution correctly
L254[13:28:08] <kubi> in the VAB there is
an issue too when the uppe row of parts have only the lower half
shown
L255[13:28:19] <kubi> 1.3.1 was
perfect
L256[13:28:24] <kubi> moreover
L257[13:28:30] <Althego> yes, but engine
change
L258[13:28:40] <kubi> changing the
resolution changes somehow the scrollable viewport in the science
facility
L259[13:29:02] <kubi> in x..720 it was
fine
L260[13:29:06] <Althego> better make a
bugreport
L261[13:29:12] <kubi> then setting 1080,
it got shifted
L262[13:29:15] <kubi> yep
L263[13:29:18] <kubi> will do
L264[13:29:37] <kubi> but need to
register, then check if there was anything similar reported
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L266[13:49:04] <MCA> With 1.4 there was
another engine change? I really need to pay more attention.
:/
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L274[14:16:59] <UmbralRaptop> Given the
math symbol problems that we've had, ? TakeTwo?
L275[14:17:27] <lordcirth> You guys ever
have problems with interstage fairings not letting go?
L276[14:18:51] <lordcirth> I stage and it
starts krakening around the engine bell
L277[14:19:10] <lordcirth> Also there's no
separation force from the decoupler
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L279[14:26:27] <Supernovy> Evening,
Gentlemen.
L280[14:34:05] <UmbralRaptop> Olympic1: I
think some sort of issue where the wiki isn't creating thumbnails
properly?
L281[14:36:44] <UmbralRaptop> … or
something
L282[14:37:03] <UmbralRaptop> Confusingly
there is a thumbnail for the banner on the media page.
L283[14:41:30] <UmbralRaptop> gah
L284[14:50:09] <Olympic1> When I use
[[File:{{{file}}}|330px]] it shows the image but [[File: in front
of it
L285[14:51:03] <Althego> wikiformatting,
one of the great failures of humans
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L287[15:13:57] <lordcirth> So I offset the
decoupler a little further from the fairing base and it seperated
fine. Have to keep that in mind. It might be because of the
Chelyabinsk engine specifically.
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L290[15:24:48] <lordcirth> Hah! An
Instruments-only landing on Mun south Poles, on a mountain.
Cool
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L292[15:34:14] <Fluburtur> there is a
fluid dynamics simulation thing on the autodesk software
L293[15:34:18] <Fluburtur> I should
download that
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L333[16:46:47] <tawny> ooo, those are
pretty looking ones
L334[16:47:00] <Mat2ch> I think there is a
mod...
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L337[16:53:24] <Alanonzander> NF Solar, I
think
L338[16:53:33] <Alanonzander> not yet
updated for 1.4.1 though
L340[17:14:59] <N70> don't thank m
L341[17:16:10] <N70> don't thank me, i
only did it because i hate clicking away 20 miniavc prompts
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L346[17:25:46] <Draconiator> That was
interesting....a pack of AAA batteries fell off my desk and
DIRECTLY onto the switch for the power strip.
L347[17:26:41] <Fluburtur> lmao
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L349[17:31:52] <UmbralRaptor> Nice.
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L351[17:51:33] <Olympic1_> UmbralRaptor:
Got that wiki template fixed, forgot to use Infobox/Line
L352[17:51:49] <UmbralRaptor> yay
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L356[17:58:24] <Guest37827> Hi
L357[17:58:27] <Mod9000> Hello,
Guest37827
L358[17:58:53] <Guest37827> Will the
making history dlc come to console
L359[17:59:27] <UmbralRaptor>
probably
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L361[18:02:24] <Fluburtur> that was
quick
L362[18:03:17] <UmbralRaptor> (╯°□°)╯︵
┻━┻
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L365[18:08:17] <Guest27919> hello?
L366[18:08:32] <Guest27919> anyone
home?
L367[18:08:42] <Supernovy> Nobody here but
us potatoes.
L368[18:09:35] <UmbralRaptor> Yay,
potato.
L369[18:10:45] <Guest27919> Does anyone
know if the Mun is tidally locked to Kerbin?
L370[18:11:04] <Fluburtur> yeah
L371[18:11:14] <Guest27919> so yes or
no
L372[18:11:23] <Fluburtur> yes
L373[18:11:31] <Guest27919> thx
L374[18:11:31] <Fluburtur> or just go in
the game and timewarp and see
L375[18:11:53] <Guest27919> ik
L376[18:12:29] <UmbralRaptor> Also, this
is the sort of thing that can be found at
wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com
L377[18:14:05] <Guest27919> and is it
possible to see Ike eclipses without a visual mod b/c I have been
time warping for many months (in game) waiting for an eclipse but I
have never seen one
L378[18:15:08] <UmbralRaptor> You can see
Ike block the star from the surface of Duna, but lighting may be
inaccurate.
L379[18:17:21] <Guest27919> I mean can it
be seen from space without mods, because I have seen Ike eclipses
in youtube videos though they have used visual mods
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L385[18:46:52] <Supernovy> Your solar
panels will stop working but you won't see a giant shadow on the
surface.
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L388[18:58:04] <devbofh> Hey everyone.
I've got a question about incompatible modules. I run 1.3.0 because
I have about 60 mods installed, many of which haven't updated to
1.3.1, or skipped 1.3.1 and went to 1.4.1. I recently downloaded
Station Parts Expansion Redux, cause what a kick ass mod, but it
says it's only compatible with 1.3.1. Womp womp. So, my question:
Is there some metadata somewhere in the mod's files that I can
change in order to
L389[18:58:04] <devbofh> at least try to
get it to load in 1.3.0, and just see what happens for testing
purposes.
L390[18:59:01] <devbofh> I'm wondering if
it really doesn't work on 1.3.0, or if it's just not even trying to
load the mod because of some version comparison.
L391[18:59:34] <Supernovy> Is it a .dll or
a part-only mod?
L392[18:59:56] <devbofh> There is a .dll
for HabUtils
L393[19:00:03] <devbofh> But that's the
only dll in there
L394[19:00:19] <devbofh> I went through
the source of that on github and didn't see anything calling out
version 1.3.1 in the source.
L395[19:00:40] <Supernovy> So what happens
when you try to load it?
L396[19:02:10] <devbofh> I get a popup on
startup saying "Unsupported KSP version... please use
1.3.1"
L397[19:03:12] <devbofh> ohh wait a
sec
L398[19:03:25] <devbofh> Okay, so earlier
I saw that it uses AVC
L400[19:03:54] <ve2dmn> That would be the
source of the popup
L401[19:03:57] <devbofh> So I opened up
the .version file in the AVC dir in the mod, and changed the KSP
version to 1.3.0. Which didn't fix anything
L402[19:04:22] <devbofh> But, looking at
the top, I'm also seeing a URL reference to a .version file in the
mod's github repo.
L403[19:04:31] <Supernovy> Can you not
just ignore the popup? I've never encountered this particular thing
in my games before.
L404[19:04:32] <devbofh> It must be
referencing that.
L405[19:04:54] <devbofh> Yeah I can click
OK. But then the module doesn't load.
L406[19:04:59] <devbofh> Or.. maybe that's
the answer to my question
L407[19:05:11] <ve2dmn> yup
L408[19:05:18] <ve2dmn> The message is
just that... a message
L409[19:05:22] <devbofh> is AVC preventing
the module from loading, or does KSP continue to attempt to load
the mod
L410[19:05:23] <devbofh> gotcha
L411[19:05:29] <devbofh> okay, well that
answers that then!
L412[19:05:37] <ve2dmn> why 1.3.0 ?
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L414[19:06:16] <ve2dmn> I mean, which mod
is unsupported om 1.3.1 ?
L415[19:06:23] <ve2dmn> in*
L416[19:08:59] <ve2dmn> because aside from
Fog-of-tech and kOS, most of the mod I use are 1.3.1 compatible...
and those 2 still works without any changes
L417[19:10:12] <devbofh> Well, actually
now that I know that AVC doesn't actually stop KSP from loading a
mod when it says it's incompatible. I might revisit the ones that
throw that popup. Namely, rescue pod fix, modular flight int,
docking port alignment indicator, stage recovery, kebal eng
redux.
L418[19:11:44] <devbofh> oh and I think
kerbalism may have skipped 1.3.1 if I recall corretly
L419[19:11:48] <devbofh> *correctly
L420[19:12:13] <lordcirth> devbofh, well,
there was a little unofficial MM patch that was all you
needed
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L422[19:12:25] <devbofh> yeah I saw that
actually.
L423[19:12:25] <lordcirth> Shotgunninja is
absent and others are maintaining it now
L424[19:12:53] <devbofh> brb
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