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L5[00:35:14] <jgkamat> Hi, I just realized
there's a ksp irc, how does everyone like the new expansion?
L6[00:35:55] <TheKosmonaut> jgkamat: I like
it
L7[00:36:06] <TheKosmonaut> Though you came
at a quiet time for this channel.
L8[00:36:28] <jgkamat> TheKosmonaut: I
really like the new parts myself, although I don't like how I can't
revert to launchpad after starting a mission :P
L9[00:36:31] <jgkamat> I suppose it makes
things more real
L10[00:36:44] <jgkamat> I'll stay here at
least for a while ;)
L11[00:36:51] <TheKosmonaut> F5 works
L12[00:37:14] <jgkamat> er, I meant revert
to VAB
L13[00:37:36] <TheKosmonaut> Oh that is
true
L14[00:38:51] <jgkamat> I really love the
coloring of the parts too, was that added in the latest update or
was that around for a while
L15[00:39:05] <jgkamat> I haven't been able
to play for longer than I'd like :)
L16[00:39:07] <TheKosmonaut> I don't really
feel too strongly about the parts, it makes the vanilla engines
look even more trash than they are.
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L18[00:39:25] <TheKosmonaut> I am more into
the mission stuff though I haven't tried yet.
L19[00:39:33] <TheKosmonaut> Other than the
ones included.
L21[00:42:35] <jgkamat> I tried a couple of
the missions, I do enjoy them enough to want to finish the stock
ones at least
L22[00:42:41] <taniwha> curseforge? most
people do not use curse
L23[00:42:53] <Rolf> cursed curse?
L24[00:43:14] <taniwha> very few mods are
on curse[forge]
L25[00:43:23] <taniwha> so I expect there
will be few missions there, too
L26[00:43:24] <jgkamat> oh, I typically
don't use mods, so I'm rather ootl on that front, where do people
put them?
L27[00:43:38] <TheKosmonaut> jgkamat: well
everything is on the forum first
L28[00:43:42] <taniwha> github, spacedock,
private servers
L29[00:43:52] <TheKosmonaut> Then linked to
a few different sites.
L30[00:43:53] <taniwha> but yes, check the
forums
L31[00:44:16] <jgkamat> I'll look for a
forum thread then :D
L32[00:47:10] <taniwha> as for not
typically using mods... stock is fine for challenges etc, but when
you get into more "serious" play, mods become essential.
("serious play" = more on the role play, less on trying
to "beat the game")
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L42[01:27:43] <Supernovy> I would argue
against essentiality.
L43[01:29:19] <jgkamat> the main thing
keeping me away is worrying that my save will break from the mods
(after an update, if the mod changes parts, etc). One of the big
appeals of ksp to me is having one super long save file that has
all my stuff in it :)
L44[01:29:32] <jgkamat> but some mods look
super cool and I do want to try them out
L45[01:30:13] <taniwha> jgkamat:
understandable. thus: copy KSP to a separate dir (ie, out of
steam's reach) and install your mods there
L46[01:30:27] <taniwha> (and run that
copy)
L47[01:30:46] <jgkamat> indeed, that is the
proper solution :).
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L84[06:54:48] <Althego> formation flight of
the lawnmovers
L85[07:01:19] <Gasher[work]> formation
delta
L87[07:01:50] <kmath> YouTube - Flying
Lawnmower
L88[08:42:49] <Pakaran> it's not just room
to turn, it's turning accurately, heh.
L89[08:43:14] <Pakaran> I've had to go back
plenty of times with one lawnmower, where I've left a gap.
L90[08:43:42] <Pakaran> with some actually
behind, and no built-in overlap, that'd be an issue.
L91[08:44:17] <Althego> modern farming
equipment can do automatic operations on gps
L92[08:44:37] <Althego> i guess you could
use it for lawnmoving too
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L94[08:46:02] <sandbox> lasers ;p
L95[08:56:10] <ve2dmn> Roomba
lawnmover
L97[08:59:29] <ve2dmn> Roomba maid?
L98[08:59:40] <Althego> something like
that
L101[09:01:14] <ve2dmn> although, I'm not
sure how often people from the US see that screen
L103[09:02:42] <kmath> YouTube - 2014 0215
014317 080
L104[09:03:11] <ve2dmn> 2014?
L105[09:03:36] <Fluburtur> my camera
doesn't know about that
L106[09:04:24] <Althego> but you can
change the title
L107[09:04:36] <ve2dmn> ^
L108[09:04:54] <ve2dmn> Give it a
clickbait title
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L110[09:12:02] <Althego> you won't believe
how this french guy made an awesome video
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L112[09:12:36] <ve2dmn> Althego: +
something about the ending
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L118[09:34:13] <ve2dmn> Pakaran: NatGeo
had one saying the headlines was crap reporting
L119[09:34:23] <Azander> so did /.
L120[09:34:32] <Pakaran> Thanks, I didn't
see them.
L122[09:34:37] <Azander> and for a change
it was before the otehrs started reporting that
L123[09:35:05] <ve2dmn> Azander: I miss
the old days when /. was *the* site online
L124[09:36:16] <ve2dmn> I miss Google
Reader more
L125[09:51:52] <Azander> ve2dmn: about /.
I agree
L126[09:52:41] <ve2dmn> although, the
amount of submission in a giving day took a toll on the moderator's
brain
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L128[10:14:13] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: and
that's how microplastics are made. :D
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L130[10:45:06] <ve2dmn> btw, what's the
biggest change engine-wise in 1.4.1? is it faster?
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L141[11:01:09] <kubi> hi there
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L143[11:01:53] <Mat2ch> ve2dmn: the
sound.
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L146[11:02:35] <ve2dmn> ...I meant in the
new Unity engine
L147[11:02:59] <Mat2ch> :D
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L172[13:13:08] <ve2dmn> Fluburtur: that is
a rabbit hole...
L173[13:13:24] <Fluburtur> heh
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L176[13:16:20] <ve2dmn> it's not the best
one, but it's a nice one
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L178[13:39:11] <Althego> hehe some parts
of 1.4 are identified as trojans by windows defender
L179[13:40:24] <Fluburtur> it's take two
trying to steal your infos
L180[13:41:59] <MCA> But they would never
do that. It's essentially the same EULA as before.
L181[13:42:14] <Althego> it is some unity
whatever dll
L182[13:44:54] <UmbralRaptor>
Incidentally, I still can't download Making History through the
store.
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L185[13:50:45] <ve2dmn> Althego: it was
ModuleManager 2-3 days ago
L186[13:52:45] <ve2dmn> A quick check with
VirusTotal confirmed that is was likely a false positive
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L194[14:21:26] <Supernovy> Evening,
Gentlemen.
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L197[14:23:48] <UmbralRaptor> Afternoon,
ν-emitter.
L198[14:23:57] <MCA> Hello both of
you
L201[14:26:09] <Fluburtur> that's how it
be
L202[14:26:27] <MCA> Hm~ I haven't played
in some time and I'm currently having issues with reentry. Even
with very shallow angles the LV909/Terrier overheats and goes poof.
Any idea what I could do or could this be a mod problem like DR+FAR
having a boo boo?
L203[14:27:01] <MCA> That's some wicked
orbit for the moon and wth it does have a face?
L204[14:27:21] <UmbralRaptor> Torii do
have some features on common with planes.
L205[14:27:28] <Althego> lol toroidal
earth
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L207[14:28:25] *
UmbralRaptor hasn't touched DR, so not sure.
L209[14:29:36] <Supernovy> Try going at a
steeper angle? Might work.
L211[14:30:06] <Althego> what happened
there?
L212[14:30:27] <Fluburtur> helicopter to
the face
L213[14:30:34] <Althego> no the axe
L214[14:30:45] <Fluburtur> vietcong dig
tunnel
L215[14:30:50] <Fluburtur> in
murikan
L216[14:35:22] <MCA> This might sound
stupid ... but well I probably should try that.
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L219[14:42:16] <Supernovy> What does the
gravity field look like close to the surface on a toroidal
planet?
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L221[14:43:05] <UmbralRaptor> Probably
-∇U
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L224[14:52:23] <ve2dmn> would such an
object even be stable?
L225[14:52:35] <Fluburtur> under the right
conditions maybe
L226[15:05:52] <UmbralRaptop> Kinda.
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L228[15:06:53] <UmbralRaptop> AIUI, a ~1
m_? planet can be stable as a torus, but forming it would be
nontrivial.
L229[15:07:21] <UmbralRaptop> Also, still
could have problems depending on impacts, spin down, etc.
L230[15:11:13] <ve2dmn> sounds to me like
it would have to be perfect or risk collapsing on itself
L231[15:14:46] <UmbralRaptop> Not quite,
but close enough.
L232[15:15:27] <ve2dmn> there was a
MinutePhysic video about a ring around earth
L233[15:15:41] <ve2dmn> TL;DR: it's a
terrible idea
L234[15:16:33] <Supernovy> Like some of
those lagrange setups or trinary+ star setups.
L235[15:17:11] <Supernovy> it works
perfectly if there's no external forces and everything is precisely
the right mass.
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L239[15:21:21] <ve2dmn> otherwise you get
a standard candle?
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L242[15:24:19] <UmbralRaptop> Nah, just a
mess that turns into a normal planet.
L243[15:24:55] <ve2dmn> and in the case of
4+ stars?
L244[15:25:26] <ve2dmn> I would guess one
is gonna eat the other until it goes supernova
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L247[15:26:53] <ve2dmn> "mess that
turns into a normal planet" : like in the case of the moon
formation? I'm pretty sure the collision created a big mess at
first
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L250[15:28:21] <UmbralRaptop> Kinda
L251[15:28:27] <Supernovy> in the star
case, either you'd get absorption which wouldn't necessarily cause
a supernova, or ejection of one or more stars.
L252[15:28:50] <UmbralRaptop> 4+ star
systems are observed.
L253[15:29:03] <ve2dmn> but are they
stable?
L254[15:29:05] <UmbralRaptop> eg:
ε-Lyr
L255[15:29:28] <UmbralRaptop> (Yes if
appropriately heirarchical?)
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L257[15:30:04] <ve2dmn> awesome.
L258[15:30:17] <Supernovy> Like if you get
something that pretends to be a 2 star system?
L259[15:30:36] <ve2dmn> The 'habitable
zone' of these systems must be extra weird
L260[15:31:27] <ve2dmn> (depending on how
far the secondary sun orbits the primary one)
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L265[15:39:53] <ve2dmn> what's the biggest
*possible* star that still 'burns' ?
L266[15:40:21] <ve2dmn> as in, not turn
into a Neutron star, a black hole or something similar?
L267[15:40:58] <Ezko> ve2dmn: 7
L268[15:41:35] <UmbralRaptop> snovy:
yeah.
L269[15:42:01] <Supernovy>
"burns"?
L270[15:42:10] <UmbralRaptop> ve2dmn:
Question unclear. As in turn into a white dwarf?
L271[15:42:11] <Supernovy> They all stop
burning eventually.
L272[15:42:46] <ve2dmn> well... VY Canis
Majoris is known as a big one... but could it be any bigger?
L273[15:42:53] <ve2dmn> is there a
limit?
L274[15:43:44] <UmbralRaptop> Diameter,
not mass?
L275[15:43:55] <Supernovy> Last I checked,
there's no theoretical upper limit.
L276[15:44:07] <ve2dmn> Diameter, not
mass
L277[15:44:43] <UmbralRaptop> Practically,
the outer layers become fuzzy and poorly bound.
L278[15:44:48] <Supernovy> 2*Schwarzschild
radius, I'd guess.
L279[15:45:06] <Supernovy> That would be a
lower limit for a given mass though.
L280[15:45:08] <ve2dmn> Supernovy: that...
could make sense
L281[15:46:10] <tawny> yeah you could
theoretically assemble a star of arbitrary mass or diameter by just
shoving red supergiants together over a very very long time
frame
L282[15:47:46] <ve2dmn> I doubt you could
make it the size of the galaxy
L284[15:47:50] <Supernovy> Yeah, that's
what I meant by no theoretical limit.
L285[15:48:01] <Supernovy> There's a
practical limit, obviously
L286[15:48:05] <Ezko> i wonder how large a
rocky planet can be before things start to get interesting
L287[15:50:26] <ve2dmn> I guess it all
depends on density
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L289[15:51:05] <UmbralRaptop> Define
"interesting"
L290[15:51:26] <ve2dmn> Fusion!
L291[15:51:35] <Ezko> yeah i was thinking
about that
L292[15:51:45] <Ezko> and i can't really
come up with anything else that would be interesting
L293[15:51:57] <Ezko> except say iron
fusion
L294[15:52:15] <darsie> Life is pretty
interesting.
L295[15:52:19] <ve2dmn> What-if has plenty
of interesting scenarios
L296[15:52:28] <Althego> and they are too
long
L297[15:52:42] <Althego> there is a book
worth of material
L299[15:53:33] <UmbralRaptop> If you're
just piling up silicon-iron (no envelope), I suspect that you'd get
neutron degeneracy first.
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L311[16:40:42] <Fluburtur> I wonder if it
is possible to export my .craft files into 3d files
L312[16:41:00] <Althego> there is a site
that renders them
L313[16:43:38] <Fluburtur> apparently
there is blender pluggin that can handle craft files
L314[16:43:48] <Fluburtur> because I would
love to print some of my planes and rockets
L316[16:51:32] <Mat2ch> Pretty nice
L317[16:51:38] <Mat2ch> I'm looking
forward to your prints
L318[16:51:47] <Fluburtur> heh
L319[16:52:14] <Fluburtur> I will probably
have to modify them a bit in order to print in multiple parts and
clip them together
L320[16:52:48] <Fluburtur> I would like to
have a fully detailed model of my koyuz T with removable boosters,
stages, fairings and payload
L321[16:52:53] <Fluburtur> and like 50cm
tall
L322[16:53:53] <Fluburtur> then I could
paint it with greena nd grey tanks!
L324[16:55:04] <Althego> hah
L325[16:55:15] <Althego> so, use it
:)
L326[16:56:11] <Fluburtur> I need to make
myself a thingiverse account
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L337[17:38:46] <atonyfukamotada> how do i
update ksp?
L338[17:42:20] <Ezko> where did you buy it
from
L339[17:44:59] <atonyfukamotada> the ksp
website
L340[17:46:58] <Supernovy> You can
download the newest version from the same place.
L341[17:47:13] <atonyfukamotada>
how?
L342[17:48:24] <Supernovy> log in to the
store -> click "my account" -> click
"download" on the relevant product.
L343[17:50:17] <atonyfukamotada>
THANKS!!!!! im pretty sure i figured it ou5, thanks so much!
L344[17:50:56] <atonyfukamotada> *sorry
for spelling errors*
L345[17:51:01] <Ezko> problem
L346[17:51:20] <atonyfukamotada> what
problem?
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L350[17:53:17] <Ezko> he never found
out
L351[17:53:42] <jgkamat> he was spooked by
the possibilities :P
L352[17:55:31] <Supernovy>
"UmbralRaptor" is an anagram of "U R A Problam,
TR."
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L354[17:57:37] <Fluburtur> uh apparently
the blender thing for importing ksp crafts is outdated
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L356[18:08:41] <UmbralRaptor> …
L357[18:14:08] <Fluburtur> taniwha you are
working on a thing to import ksp stuff into blender right?
L358[18:14:50] <Supernovy> and "Lo, a
Trap! Um... Brr!"
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L366[18:32:40] <lordcirth> My map screen
is covered in white lines, anyone know what causes that?
L367[18:33:33] <Supernovy> Pic?
L369[18:35:11] <lordcirth> I had it last
night but closed KSP and figured it would be fixed when I restarted
it
L370[18:35:53] <Supernovy> That's weird.
Looks almost like commnet lines.
L371[18:36:52] <lordcirth> Yeah. I'm
playing with Kerbalism comms
L372[18:39:24] <lordcirth> I will try
moving backwards through persistent backups
L373[18:39:26] <Supernovy> There aren't
vessels at the points of those lines, are there?
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L375[18:41:29] <lordcirth> Supernovy,
nope, I don't have nearly that many vessels
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L377[18:43:57] <lordcirth> Supernovy, it
doesn't occur in tracking station, only vessel's map view
L378[18:44:20] <Supernovy> I've never
played with Kerbalism, so I probably can't help troubleshoot.
L379[18:45:29] <lordcirth> Oh I'm an
idiot. Trajectories in body-fixed mode.
L380[18:46:28] <Supernovy> Ah! I have
played with that one. It will draw weird lines sometimes.
L381[18:47:23] <lordcirth> Yeah,
body-fixed mode is mostly intended for suborbital
trajectories
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L400[20:30:28] <lordcirth> When using fuel
flow priority on batteries, do they recharge in reverse
order?
L401[20:33:16] <KrazyKrl> It depends on if
the electricity is official Kerbal Space Center certified
electrons.
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L406[20:59:58] <lordcirth> Turns out that
a Z-1k isn't enough for my transfer stage to keep cold during a
single Kerbin orbit night
L407[21:00:05] <lordcirth> 2.6Ec/s is a
lot
L408[21:03:18] <ve2dmn> so.. did anyone
tried 'Surviving Mars' ?
L409[21:04:01] <lordcirth> Ok, definitely
bringing a wider landing base next time
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L418[21:49:17] <Guest95971> how to sign up
this website?
L419[21:49:37] <lordcirth> Guest95971,
?
L420[21:50:13] <Guest95971> it says
"You did not pass the security check. Please try again.
L422[21:50:36] <Guest95971> this
forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com
L423[21:51:05] <lordcirth> Guest95971, oh.
Probably you got the CAPTCHA wrong?
L424[21:52:03] *
Mimiru looks around
L425[21:52:12] <Mimiru> Freenode? Did I
suddenly switch networks?
L426[21:52:13] <Mimiru> :P
L427[21:52:25] <Guest95971> ooh..i can't
see it
L428[21:52:47] <Guest95971> it's not
showing
L429[21:53:25] <Guest95971> you did mean
"Security Check:?
L430[21:54:18] <lordcirth> Mimiru, lol
oops
L431[21:54:47] <Guest95971> wat?
L432[21:54:48] <lordcirth> On Freenode
#ubuntu we get so many people incoherently asking how to register
to get into some channel or other
L433[21:55:17] <Guest95971> sorry about
that
L434[21:55:25] <lordcirth> Guest95971, no,
not talking about you
L435[21:55:52] <lordcirth> Guest95971, so
I'm looking at the forum, the security check is the Google captcha
thing, why are you having trouble with it?
L437[21:56:33] <Ezko> maybe he just isn't
smart enough
L438[21:56:36] <Ezko> oops
L439[21:56:38] <Mimiru> Shows up with no
issue here.
L441[21:59:13] <Mimiru> Are you blocking
any of google's domains, blocking javascript? etc..?
L443[21:59:58] <Guest95971> I'm in china
so..sorry
L444[21:59:58] <ve2dmn> did you try with a
different browser?
L445[22:00:11] <Mimiru> Oh... well then,
that's very likely your issue.
L446[22:00:49] <Guest95971> OK I'm so
sorry guys
L447[22:00:57] <Guest95971> thanks any
way
L448[22:01:02] <ve2dmn> why are you sorry?
it's not your fault
L449[22:01:12] <Guest95971> lol
L450[22:04:22] <Guest95971> it's ok now ,
you know, climb over the wall
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L458[22:24:34] <lordcirth> Now is this why
I play with life support & 4x scale. I need to build a ~40t
mothership with 7km/s of delta-v. And that's what Kerbal Atomics is
for.
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L462[22:50:17] <KrazyKrl> Wouldn't it be
easier to remove the dead weight from the fuel tanks?
L463[22:50:40] <KrazyKrl> the problem with
KSP parts, is they have a dry weight that is scaled to the solar
system size.
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L466[23:12:15] <tawny> engine thrusts and
stuff are also scaled to that
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L469[23:31:07] <cringe> ISS Urine Tank
Level: 27%
L470[23:32:58] <Guest38419> So awaitting
moderation, I am trying to get the mod hyperedit and the website
gives me a 403 Forbidden error at top of page and nothing else. I
have tried to message the owner of said mod with the error and im
currently awaiting moderation. So my question is can someone email
my the current beta version of the mod?
L471[23:33:50] <Guest38419> name
t12213roy
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L475[23:37:29] <cringe> that?
L476[23:38:43] <cringe> if you're getting
an error keep trying, i was able to download without issue
L477[23:38:52] <t12213roy> yes, however
when I try to access the site I get the 403 forbidden error, using
firefox with no addons Windows 10 with firewall disabled. can't
seem to figure out why
L478[23:39:06] <t12213roy> I have tried
all day
L479[23:39:21] <cringe> are you using a
proxy?
L480[23:39:34] <t12213roy> nope I am on a
dedicated IP
L481[23:40:04] <t12213roy> same error with
Edge, IE , and Chrome
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L483[23:41:10] <t12213roy> Tried to talk
with the mod author but every post has to be moderated
L485[23:41:53] <cringe> well thats the
latest build
L486[23:42:11] <t12213roy> What is the
post count requirement to no be moderated?
L487[23:42:24] <t12213roy> 403
Forbidden!
L488[23:42:47] <cringe> someone has
already replied to you in thread
L489[23:42:51] <t12213roy> There is a beta
build that works for 1.4.1
L490[23:43:32] <cringe> its defo something
with your pc or maybe isp
L491[23:43:34] <t12213roy> yes and he
wanted the whole error and "403 forbidden" is the whole
error nothing else
L493[23:45:01] <t12213roy> ISP does not
block access
L494[23:45:22] <t12213roy> No proxyserver
detected.
L495[23:45:42] <t12213roy> You do not have
a proxy server or internet filtering activated
L496[23:46:33] <t12213roy> o well
L497[23:47:03] <t12213roy> if someone can
down load the beta1 and email it to me at jandatroy@gmail.com
L498[23:47:14] <t12213roy> much
appreciated
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L500[23:50:36] <t12213roy> Thank you
L501[23:50:40] <t12213roy> good
night
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